![1485332452460207791[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CTCoF0F.jpg "1485332452460207791[1].jpg")
So, the Fantastic Four have fallen a long way since they were Marvel's company-saving flagship team. How would you reimagine the House of Ideas' Atomic Age First Family to be relevant and engaging in the 21st century?
Game of Thrones style incest and backstabbing.
>>83877352
When was the last time they actually sold well
>>83877352
Sell them to DC.
>>83877611
Hickman's run and subsequently Fraction's run, where they both juggled two different books.
>>83877352
I N C E S T
Get that Game of Thrones audience, famalam.
>>83877352
the problem is that Disney/Marvel don't have the movie license and don't want to feed Fox stories to exploit.
>>83877352
They were actually Inhumans all along
They discover that Wade Wilson and Reed Richards were brothers all along, so they add Deadpool to the team.
Just have them be a healthy, happy, loving family that joke around, do good things, and talk through their problems instead of being idiots and sociopaths and keeping secrets for cheap drama.
Not only would this be fucking unique in our 90s inspired grimdark media hellhole, it would be a positive influence on our culture's shitty parents that are so infantalized themselves they can't parent without permission.
Give us a badass motherly Sue that protects the shit out of her family, a Daddy as fuck Reed that teaches everyone science, including the readers/audience, a sibling-like loving rivalry between Ben and Johnny, and the rambunctious chaos of the extended science family from time grandpa to mole kids and Antichrist son. Just put a healthy smart family on center stage for a while. Good role models. Not boring boyscout bullshit, not antihero assholes, just good people being a good family with a backdrop of crazy science exploration.
Or just lots of incest. Fine. Whatever.
>>83881870
both of your suggestions are very good.
>>83877352
>Just had one of the best comic runs of all time
>Out of date
I'd rather the FF be in limbo until a good creative team comes along.
I kind of had this idea for a couple F4 storylines that would be told concurrently. Here's the pitch :
Dr. Doom dies, and in his will, he leaves rulership of Latveria to none other than... Reed Richards. The idea would be that, though Doom hated Richards, deep down, he knew he is a hero, and that he is the safest hands to leave Latveria to. Richards assumes the burden of trying to modernize and liberate a nation used to despotism, as well as strains in international relations.
Meanwhile, Doc Ock is back, and has retained his memories of being Spider-Man. He is inspired by and indebted to Peter Parker, and remains a hero, taking Mr. Fantastic's place on the Fantastic Four.
>>83881870
I don't know if we have any writers good enough and sane enough to do those sorts of stories.
>>83883442
That happened already, Doom was in hell and the FF seized control of the country
>>83883522
How did they reverse the Latveria thing anyways?
>>83883553
I don't know, I know that it leads into Secret War with Nick Fury invading the country
>>83881870
I would love the shit out of this. The best FF stories have been wonder, exploration and fighting adversity as a strong, loving family. The weakest stories are when they go against this.
>>83877352
More Deadpool.
>http://zak-site.com/Great-American-Novel/index.html
Fantastic Four's Greatest fan already has an answer for the future of the book. Read to the end, it's really convincing.
Continuity becomes chaotic after issue 321. For most issues it almost looks like a different team. But what would happen if they remembered the past? If those events mattered? The trends are obvious. The answer is clear:
>Johnny and Alicia would separate.
Alicia does not feel secure with Johnny, and any "drifting apart" from Ben was a symptom of Ben's internal chaos. She has shown plenty of times that Ben is what she wants (e.g. in Moench's run).
>Ben and Sharon will always be friends
The basis of Ben and Sharon being together was their unstable mental health. Sharon hated men, and Ben had never had a healthy relationship since gaining his powers. They were lost and confused and their healthy relationship has healed them. But there was no long term bond, no history, so shared goals. So they will part but remain good friends. (Englehart's solution was to make the original team just the core of an extending family: in FF331 he made her very secure at the middle of the team. In contrast, the Franklinverse solution - to have Sharon lose her mind and wander the countryside as a monster - betrays Franklin's own sad psychological state... or a horrible sexism among editors)
>Ben and Alicia plan to marry
In FF303 we are reminded that Ben will always be in love with Alicia. They have long planned to marry, but were only held back by Ben's lack of confidence. He has now resolved those issues (through deep thinking on Battleworld and in FF296 and 303, becoming leader, having a healthy relationship with Sharon). In FF328 we see that Ben and Alicia make a great team! Ben is an old fashioned guy and she is a modern woman, and together they solve mysteries!
>>83884515
cont.
>Johnny and Crystal want each other
Johnny and Crystal are soul mates. Even when telling himself that he loves Alicia, Johnny admits that he loves Crystal. Unlike before, Johnny is now mature and able to commit. They will be together, as we saw in FF Annual 1998.
>Johnny will lead the team
A major theme of the Fantastic Four is that only Johnny Storm actually wants to be a superhero. He is restricted when in the shadow of the others: he is more confident and creative when working away from Reed, and Alicia has taught him mature responsibility. So he is a natural leader.
>Ben will become an emeritus member
Ben's long term goal is to settle down with Alicia, as in Liddleville, but for real. He will still help the FF when needed, and have other adventures, but Alicia will be his top priority.
>Reed will get to know his son
Once the limits of Franklin's power are understood, Franklin will take his place on the Fantastic Four, and Reed will focus on Sue and on his discoveries. Reed will explore ever deeper and further: any story featuring Reed will be exciting because there's always something new. Like Ben, he will be available if the Fantastic Four need the help that only he can provide.
>Sue will follow her dream to be a private investigator
Sue would make the perfect detective: see FF158 and her interest in keys (FF225). This will allow her to move, James Bond style, amid the highest of society as she always wanted. She will work alone, with backup from the team back at base.
Teen Franklin...
will hop between home and work, using Lockjaw. With Crystal around, Luna would be the other teenage members of the team. Obviously this presupposes that time moves forwards, as it did in the 1960s.
>>83884536
cont.
The book evolve from merely superheros genre to be a cross genre book:
>Detective fiction. Most obviously with Sue (the powers are just excuse for more interesting stories), but every solo story featuring the adult Johnny has been a detective story: e.g. FF207, FF233, FF302.
>Science fiction: Reed.
>Teen drama: Franklin.
>Classic super hero: Johnny.
>Adventures in time and space: the team with Lockjaw and the time machine
>Team up / road movie: Ben (it worked for Marvel Two In One)
It's brave, it's new. It has to be done.
Of course, it ignores the Future Foundation since it's from the "franklinverse" (when time stopped moving) but adding them to the pitch should be easy enough.
>>83877352
Retcon their powers and make them young and Make it a Scifi investigative mystery show like the Xfiles
>>83879917
Perlmutter go away.
