New Suicide Squad poster.
I wonder when we're getting the final trailer.
All that poster has to do is glow under black light and it'd be 100% Spencers.
>>83874267
it looks like something from the asylum
Big big DC shit is dropping Tuesday
Maybe Skawd like Justice League reveal photo
Final Suicide Squad trailer will be in July, maybe in front of Tarzan
>>83874267
>Eyeballs near Joker
>he has at least one henchman with a giant eyeball mask
Pottery
>>83874267
The movie itself doesn't look bad.
But christ this marketing is painful.
>>83874267
>them green arrows
>>83874356
>Big big DC shit is dropping Tuesday
This guy, who was also invited to visit the JL set, tweeted: "Gonna have a ridiculously in-depth series of articles about an upcoming tentpole flick hitting the site Tuesday morning. Stay tuned!"
https://twitter.com/EricVespe/status/743881575708798976
>>83874267
>Every single promotional shot of Slipnot is the same one
HE gonna die
>>83874384
I noticed that too! Goddamn cockteases.
Worst. Heroes. Ever.
>>83874267
>Joker, then Harley, then Woll Smoth.
I bet Will realized this wasn't going to be HIS film long before they refilmed a half hour of Leto.
>>83874267
>Waller: "I'm stuck in this shit with these clowns."
>>83874267
That is one ugly ass poster.
>>83874464
Guess we'll see if he plays Deadshot or Fresh Prince of Bellevue.
>>83874267
I love this poster but it's jarringly tone-deaf to the first trailer
The marketing makes SS look like it wants to be two different movies
>>83874267
I like it.
>>83874561
Do you mean the one with 'I started a joke'?
I believe Ayer said that teaser wasn't meant to represent the final movie (which is why it wasn't even supposed to be officially released).
>>83874267
God I am so ready for this movie.
It being a part of the DCEU and all still has me worried, especially with the reshoots WB forced, but that could be a good thing.
I'm cautiously hyped.
>>83874464
Guess he learned since Django Unchained.
>>83874561
It has only ever wanted to be one movie friend,
plz give it moneys
>>83874561
This.
Is the movie going to be a gritty villain driven action movie, or a slapsticky deconstruction of superhero films?
>>83874561
That trailer was basically from several weeks of shooting for die hard fans and was never meant to be released. The director said at the time the film was actually quite fun.
>>83874617
It's going to be a an ensemble trying to chew scenery and be the next quippy Heat Legend.
You know this in your heart.
>>83874597
>it wasn't even supposed to be officially released
Yeah, people forget that it leaked and WB only released it to at least give people a clear view.
They didn't ever release the Comic-Con Man of Steel trailer with Thin Red Line music, which I think was the best one. Not even on home video.
>>83874604
>especially with the reshoots WB forced
WB didn't force anything. Ayer said:
>"If they don’t like your movie they tend to not want to invest in it. If they love your movie, they give you what you want. And I don’t think there’s any director that finishes a movie and says, ‘Wow that’s perfect, that’s what I really want it to be.’ Every movie I’ve ever made I wish I could go and grab some additional stuff and that’s exactly the chance I got this time. It’s like getting a new car but you get fancy rims and a new stereo.”
>Steve asked Ayer if the reshoots are adding bits and pieces here and there or if he’s adding a significant new set piece, but the filmmaker was tight-lipped about specifics, only saying “all of the above.”
http://collider.com/suicide-squad-reshoots-david-ayer-batman/
>>83874607
I wonder if Ant-Man had come out that year, we'd be getting an Atom movie instead.
>>83874561
I'm hoping a lot of the grimmy darkness that was present in the first teaser is still present in the final movie but supposedly there's always been a lot of dark comedy as well. These posters kinda reflect that.
>>83874607
People keep on making that comparison but that is stretching, imo. Even for all the success Marvel had with that movie. Even for all of the ways WB has fucked up with the DCEU, I really don't think they're necessarily trying to emulate GotG.
They don't need anymore trailers. It's a month and a half away.
>>83874661
WB "leaks" more than a colander, they need to quit pretending that all this stuff is unofficial instead of a marketing ploy.
>>83874561
Every trailer has been less dark than the first.
>>83874664
Could be just PR bullshit but if he's not bs-ing then I'm hopeful.
>>83874671
>I wonder if Ant-Man had made more than Man of Steel, we'd be getting an Atom movie instead.
Fix'd that for you.
>>83874698
It was literally a cellphone video leak, broheim
>>83874698
What leaks are you referring to?
The teaser was recorded by people in the audience, I doubt that was a' marketing ploy', especially taking into consideration the statement they released afterwards.
>>83874617
It's basically just DC saying, "We need the Deadpool/Guardians of the Galaxy audience!"
>>83874267
I like the juxtaposition between this movie's marketing and the marketing for BvS. Like, one was focusing on drama and stakes, and this one is like "COMIC BOOKS."
>>83874729
>>83874730
>I really believe that stuff gets shown in front of a large crowd, in the age of smartphones, with no intention of it getting around online.
Ok, whatever works for you I guess.
>>83874753
When in Rome, do as the Romans do
>>83874761
BvS failed at delivering either, so wish this thing luck.
>>83874753
>It's basically just DC saying, "We need the Iron Man audience!"
>>83874803
When in Rome, do as the Romans do
>>83874753
>Marvel invented humor
>Marvel invented soundtracks
>Marvel invented antiheros
>Marvel invented selfdepreciation
>Marvel invented references
Reddit invented you
>>83874792
I genuinely don't know what to feel about it, honestly. I don't have faith in DC's movies at all, but at the same time, I just want more movies to go enjoy. I honestly hope this one is good.
>>83874769
I fully believe that's the intent. It's a stupid, old-fashioned way of thinking but they think it's reasonable.
>>83874671
Nah.
>>83874402
That might just be Adam Beech being incapable of facial expressions.
>>83874924
I thought we all agreed to pretend that didn't happen.
Hot Topic: The Movie is going to be great!
>>83874851
Ssh...ssh...it's okay, DC Friend. We know the abysmal failure of the DCEU so far has got you down, but lying to yourself isn't going to solve anything.
>>83874981
That didn't seem very sincere.
Maybe get Justice League pic Monday before set visit articles...
And wheres the Wonder Woman trialer
>>83874936
He smiles off set
>>83874981
to be fair, Suicide Squad looks pretty fun.
The big downside is that they're adapting the shitty New 52 run with Waypool Quinn.
Shit's the exact same as Bendis Guardians, but at least they didn't get a movie.
It reminds me why the New 52 was such a stupid idea, at least in regards to its' attempts at brand synergizing. WB couldn't get their DCCU off before Cereal King was all "nope fuck you, we're going to start bringing the classic stuff back"
>>83874995
>And wheres the Wonder Woman trialer
Soon, hopefully.
>>83874969
Better than Snydershit.
I don't know, something seems off about Harley.
>"What, I should kill everyone here? OH JUST THE VOICES"
>"I am known to be quite vexing"
>"Yeah, that's probably a good idea, honey"
None of this sounds like shit Harley would say.
Wonder if they're going to portray her and Joker's relationship sympathetically or show it as abusive.
>>83875034
It's a pretty even mix of New 52 and Ostrander's really.
>>83875044
Talk about damning with faint praise.
>>83875056
>None of this sounds like shit Harley would say.
Because they obviously have shown to care so much about keeping their personalities.
>>83875073
Better than damning with loud curses
>>83874267
>captain boomerang is one of the original skwad members
>harley and joker are on top of the poster
>boomer isn't
Show some fucking respect, ye bloody bogans.
Nice poster, though, gonna print it/10.
>>83875056
Because youre the authority on a fictional character's personality and mannerisms?
Find a legitimate complaint instead of tired unsubstantiated "Not muh"'-isms that ruin discussion
>>83874267
>Joel Kinnaman gets billing instead of Jai Courtney or Cara Delevigne
>>83875180
Good
>>83875166
No, I'm not, but I've read Harley for years and she sounds a lot like a randumb edgy character. As if Harley would be surprised by people seeing her changing or mentioning shit like 'the voices'.
Also, I used specific quotes, not muh shit.
Fuck off.
>>83875166
I'm fairly sure deadshot is not will smith in the comics.
>>83874267
>going full Borderlands
You fools, you never go full Borderlands!
>>83875166
>Because youre the authority on a fictional character's personality and mannerisms?
Not even that guy, but most all of us have been exposed to Harley Quinn for years.
We know the difference between Harley Quinn and NotHarleyQuinn.
>>83875056
>"Yeah, that's probably a good idea, honey"
>Doesn't sound like shit Harley would say
That's a stunningly ordinary line to get worked up over. What, should she say puddin? Only Joker is puddin
>>83875166
>Find a legitimate complaint instead of tired unsubstantiated "Not muh"'-isms that ruin discussion
When it comes to adaptations of a character, ONLY "Not muh" has meaning. ONLY "Not muh" has value.
Until DC understands that audiences want to see the characters as they know them, it will continue to fail over and over again.
MoS should have been the wake-up call on that. BvS was the inarguable evidence. People know characters a certain way, and want to see that.
>>83875218
Truly you are the gay blade
>>83875166
>Because youre the authority on a fictional character's personality and mannerisms?
>>83875259
It was in response to a dude getting water. I don't know, it makes her sounds sarcastic in an almost team mother kind of way.
I may be wrong of course. It's only in conjunction with the dumbass "I am known to be quite vexing", and it seems suspicious.
>>83875265
Heat Legend didn't play the Joker as audiences knew him. Was it all death hype?
>>83875211
He actually is
>>83875194
I think they're equally shitty actors, but would prefer Jai if it meant hopes for more Boomer than Flagg, tbqh
>>83875265
Then stick to your funny books and leave the movies to the real comic fans.
>>83875314
It was about 50% death hype, desu.
>>83875305
The joke is the dude with fire powers wants water
>>83875329
Aren't you busy ruining the Justice League, Mr. Snyder?
>>83875329
/tv/ plz.
>>83875338
Yeah, I get the joke. Harley's response seems too warm, or down to earth, I guess?
>>83875161
>>83875180
Because Jai Courtney isn't well liked no matter how good he looks in the movie.
>>83875317
Floyd has never been a sassy bald black dude with religious scripture written all over him.
>>83875354
That's effortless.
>>83875314
>Heat Legend didn't play the Joker as audiences knew him.
Sure he did.
Why does /co/ hate this movie so much?
I think it looks pretty good.
>>83875369
Thanks!
>>83875376
No? Romero Nicholson and Hamill were never about CHAOS and MUH PLANS
>>83875365
I thought you're talking about character, not appearance
>>83875389
Some people are upset that a movie with the unlikely premise of the Suicide Squad is turning into a "Harley's Boyfriend Problems" movie with Batman and Woll Smoth.
>>83875389
Because it's not Disney.
>>83875360
Well, everyone likes him as Boomerang
>>83875414
That's what Assault on Arkham was. And no one has much of a problem with it.
>>83875427
Well, that much is obvious.
>>83875427
Show us on this doll where Disney touched you.
>>83875389
Much of it is Snyder fallout.
If it was an Ayer standalone we'd still have to deal with weird decisions like the Joker tats, but the whole Snyderverse is an albatross for every DC movie from now on until it's over.
>>83875414
Basically this. I don't really have an interest in generic will smith action flick #218. Did in the beginning though, but the more I see, the more I grow more and more disinterested in everything about it. At least croc and katana look great.
RT score 81%
Box office of 750 million
What do you think?
>>83875389
It honestly looks okay. Not great, not terrible.
I'm hoping for its failure, though, because the DCEU needs to fail to clear the way for something better.
Snyder fucked up Batman and Superman so badly that it's better to put this sick beast down.
>>83875486
65%
I'd say around $700-$170 million is fair.
>>83875464
This.
>>83875523
Thanks to him, he made superman poison, so they're allowed to use him in tv shows now. Plus, supes won't be back until the ending of justice league 2 anyway.
>>83875552
Cavill is shooting JL right now m9.
>>83875486
They spent an insane amount of marketing to get Man of Steel to $750 million dollars with a front-loaded opening weekend with pre-sold tickets.
You are crazy if you think this movie is doing Winter Soldier or Man of Steel box office.
$500 million would be above my expectations, but would put it in Ant-Man territory.
>>83875427
>>83875461
>DC's failures are all Disney's fault, guys!
>>83874267
looks like super.
you know Gunn's Super.
Anyone?
siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh
>>83875586
A couple dream sequences probably. He wants him to stay dead and be corrupted by darkseid in the afterlife as batman prepares the league.
>>83875596
And Deadpool did 850 million.
>>83874617
oh. someone already did my thing. anyway.
>>83875486
>>83875528
I guess we'll see if Will Smith's star power can cancel out the shadow Snyder has cast over the DCEU.
>>83875624
But the floating dirt shit meant he was waking up.
>>83875624
>corrupted by darkseid in the afterlife
Darkseid is Satan? Clark went to Hell?
>>83875607
2gushy4me
>>83874617
btw that movie was too depressing and sad. just watch it. also Ellen Page rapes Wilson.
>>83875634
You do realize that Suicide Squad has gotten a ton of hype and buzz despite BvS?
>>83875627
Yeah, and it's a dayum shame Deadpool isn't a Suicide Squad member.
You really think Deadshot is equivalent to Deadpool?
>>83875596
Truly you are pee, Alfred
>>83875660
>You really think Deadshot is equivalent to Deadpool?
Will Smith isn't even the star of the fucking movie retard.
>>83875637
It's to imply he was going to come back eventually, not that he was waking up, according to snyder.
>>83875655
I realize BvS had a ton of hype and buzz, and that everyone assumed that a movie with Batman and Superman was a no-brainer guaranteed success.
They managed to fuck that up. We'll see what happens with Suicide Squad.
>>83875637
>But the floating dirt shit meant he was waking up.
It was probably a deep metaphor for some shit that you weren't able to follow.
>>83875596
Man of Steel didn't even get to $680 million, tho.
>>83875675
Yet his name gets top billing. Fucking idiot.
>>83875675
Fine, you think Not-Harley Quinn is equivalent to Deadpool?
>>83874561
>oh shit, Snyder's grimdark bullshit sank like a rock
>better play up the goofiness and comedy
>>83875206
burn
>>83875699
Well, she is, Harley Quinn is extremely popular for some reason.
>>83875676
B R A V O S Y N D E R
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>PG-13 Dirty Dozen
Man, I'm still salty about that rating.
>>83875701
The first trailer at Comic-Con wasn't for the public and even at Comic Con when the trailer was show, Ayer said that the movie would be funnier than the trailer let on
>>83875683
It was literal shit, no metaphors
>>83875676
So even if Supes comes back, Clark Kent was confirmed dead to the world, right? They even had a funeral for him.
How can Clark Kent come back into his old life?
>>83875693
And that's why Harley Quinn and Margot Robbie is front and center in the poster and Will Smith is to the side, right retard?
>>83875709
>Harley Quinn is extremely popular for some reason.
Shame she isn't in this movie, just this quippy whore.
>>83875754
Yeah, right next to harley and joker, with everyone else below them. You really are this fucking stupid.
>>83875769
So, by that logic, Arkham series Harley and New 52 Harley aren't really Harley Quinn?
>>83875791
he is, I know him.
>>83875799
>New 52 Harley
Has Johns stopped apologizing for the New 52 yet?
Because he shouldn't.
>>83875748
He doesn't. Snyder doesn't give a fuck about supes supporting cast, except for lois lane, which is why he killed jimmy with a bullet to the face.
>>83875799
Yes. Are you dense? Retarded or something?
>>83875820
>Johns apologizes for New 52
>Snyder apologizing for BvS with "ultimate recut"
DC 2016: We Are So Terribly Sorry
>>83875699
https://desustorage.org/co/search/filename/1377288704592.gif/
>>83875887
https://desustorage.org/co/search/image/R9h-VG7BSPbodpPK87JhqQ/
>>83875211
The new Deadshot's named Will if that means anything.
>>83875922
You talking about that Will Evans dude? I stopped following Deadshot/Katana after issue 2. Is he even appearing in anything after that Deadshot mini-series?
>>83875872
New 52 is responsible for Suicide Squad being all "Dude Hot Topic LMAO", anon.
DCfriends and Marvelfriends alike can rejoice in their equal amounts of disliking for the New 52.
It's the same thing as Marvel's Inhumans push or Fantastic Four phobia, just in reverse.
>>83875980
I'm not your friend, buddy
>>83875660
Harley Quinn is.
>>83875892
>>83875914
Keep at it!
>company wars
wew
Is it summer already?
>>83876026
WB is on their knees praying she is.
We'll find out soon enough.
>>83876063
>3 years non-stop
>Summer
youmustbenewhere.jpg
>>83874267
Margot Robbie is the only reason I'm seeing this movie.
>>83876063
Company wars are forever since Iron Man broke the horns of Nolan pride.
>>83875037
They're going to do the last bit of SS marketing, a load of WW stuff and some JL stuff. So we'll get a trailer in about a month at the latest
>>83876115
I remember when Man of Steel was going to crush Iron Man 3 at the box office.
Good times.
>>83875979
Lawton's probably gonna kill him next issue.Evans kidnapped his daughter in the most recent one.
>>83876149
I remember when TDKR was going to BTFO Avengers.
>>83876115
Nah, it only ever got bad with MoS, the flop that launched a centuries-long feud.
>>83876224
At least BvS wiped the floor with Civil War.
So, if you don't like Suicide Squad, why are you wasting your time in this thread?
>>83876226
It got worse sure, but it was in full swing in the year of Avengers/TDKR
>>83876291
>So, if you don't like Suicide Squad, why are you wasting your time in this thread?
Are you implying that this movie has anything but a superficial resemblance to the Suicide Squad?
>>83876291
Charging my schadenfreude
>>83876318
Same can be asked about the Avengers.
>>83876318
Surprised it didn't short out after BvS's opening.
>>83876291
The more negativity DC receives, the greater likelihood they will change. Many minds make it real. It's a tulpa thing, ask /x/.
It already started with Johns doing rebirths for both comics and movie verses.
>>83876338
Whoops ,for
>>83876313
>>83876357
>The more negativity DC receives, the greater likelihood they will change.
This movie was 5 years ago, Anon.
They are still making movies by committee, the only change is the color filter.
>>83876357
>Believing Johns has that much power over the films
Battered Housewife Syndrome in full swing.
>>83876357
DC Comics isn't responsible for the shit WB does
So this is DC striking back
Johns as CEO of WB when
Holy fuck, the samefags in this thread is insane.
>>83876166
Okay cool. I admit, I was at first worried DC were planning to kill off Lawton and replace him with Evans at first but clearly with Floyd still in Suicide Squad during Rebirth this won't be happening.
>>83876419
If you want 1000 people chattering at each other go on Twitter.
>>83875638
would you put it past Snyder
>>83876396
>>83876398
He will beat them to death with cereal boxes
>>83876449
Johns was the driving creative force on the Green Lantern movie tho.
>>83876396
But Martin Campbell was a real director unlike Snyder.
Wish WB stuck to their guns after one flop instead of the next.
Can the fanboys just go to this thread to discuss your retarded shit
>>83857741
People just want to talk about the Suicide Squad movie.
>>83876490
He's a Halfag so I doubt he approved the script where he's a shithead. He was probably just their token comic man they trot out for cred.
>>83876531
He didn't care for the movie at all, it was a commitee product and it showed.
>>83876355
There was no joy, shameful or otherwise, over BvS's utter failure.
It was just sad.
>>83876565
Johns famously aggravated the people trying to make the film with his meddling.
>>83876419
How can you tell?
>>83876396
no see that movie had Geoff Johns driving it and after is sucked and bombed they got him outta the way to work on good movies
>>83876563
Saying it's shit is talking about it, anon.
If you can't stand anything but praise for your pet movie, get the fuck outta here.
>>83876623
No one is saying it's shit, no one has seen it.
People are concerned it might end up awful because it's turned into a Harley/Joker vehicle, has been reshot considerably with the likely intention of making it more so, possibly reducing "the team" into background-filler.
There could easily be enough Joker/Harley/Affleck/Will Smith going on at this point that there's little left for anyone else but fightan scenes.
>>83876697
>No one is saying it's shit, no one has seen it.
Early reviews have been positive
>>83876718
Yeah, just like BvS.
I don't take the claps of WB employees and their pals seriously, and neither should you.
>>83876736
The early reactions came from WB employees, the early reaction for SS are from the general public.
>mfw the last good live-action DC movie came out in 2008
Who do you think dies?
Slipknot, obviously
Croc
Enchantress
And El Diablo in a noble death
>>83876758
Sure. Get back to us when WB releases into the wild and we can get real reactions.
BvS has destroyed their credibility on this front.
>>83876839
Slipknot will set off his bomb
Diablo will go out in a blaze of glory
At best I see Croc getting injured. Other than that the team should be fine
>>83876904
>Get back to us when WB releases into the wild and we can get real reactions.
But that's exactly what they did.
>>83876697
The movie can only be shit, for exactly the reason you picture.
>>83876925
Enchantress has to die. She's the main villain.
I really hope this is good, because its WB's last chance to win back audience investment in the DCEU. But also I hope they dont get carried away with these characters if it does become successful, god knows we dont need a shit ton of spinoffs from this
>>83876950
Wasnt counting Enchantress as a member but yeah shes probably going to die
>>83876926
SS opened everywhere? I must have missed that, I thought that was happening in August.
>>83877007
You said, "release into the wild" which is that they did.
They had it screened to people who didn't know what it was going to be to get their opinion. The reaction was positive.
>>83876795
1989
>>83874356
>Tarzan
Why would they want to advertise in front of a movie no one is going to see?
>>83876987
>WB decides to cut their losses and abandon Justice League, Batman, and Superman
>DCEU is now Suicide Squad and its spin-offs
>>83877066
As with John Carter, only book fans will want to see it.
>>83877066
Because WB can't into anything
>>83875314
heath ledger played an insane psychopath with a high amount of intelligence and cunning, which is exactly what the joker is
oh and he died
>>83876490
No he wasn't. Andrew Kreisberg explained what happened with that movie. The execs basically took control.
>>83877138
Tarzan isn't as well revered though.
>>83877138
Tarzan has slightly more cultural cache than John Carter did, though. Johnny Weissmuller's movies in the 30s brought the character into the general public consciousness, and there have been Tarzan movies and TV shows (and satires like George of the Jungle) ever since.
I'm not saying Tarzan is super popular, just that I think the average person would at least have an idea of who the character is, whereas no one but the few people who had read the Mars books recognized the name or character of John Carter.
>>83877244
Tarzan is a lot more revered than John Carter. Most people didn't even know about John Carter.
Tarzan has absolutely no buzz though, it's gonna flop, so it would be a waste of time to put the Suicide trailer during Tarzan.
>>83877214
Yeah, I don't get people who say that TDK Joker wasn't comic accurate. He got his characterization down to a T, even without the laughing gas
>>83877266
>>83877272
I like Tarzan but when I looked at this movie it just seems like a weird sequel to something no one saw.
>>83874267
>rainbow colors out the ass
can't wait to see what critics will complain about now
>>83877316
Story? Characters? Dialogue? Editing?
If you seriously think the grim color palette was the only complaint about MoS and BvS, you're retarded.
>>83874607
>two movies aren't similar at all except they are both based on comic book teams
>DUDE THEY ARE THE SAME
>>83877374
I'm not sure what you're laughing at, or what Synder has to do with it as he's not directing it, but yes, the movie was screened to the general public.
>Movie about Batman and Superman fighting but teaming up to defeat a bigger threat
>Let's make that shit as dark as we can, it's for adults
>Movie about killer, sociopathic criminals on a suicide mission
>It should look like a Lisa Frank trapper keeper, but more colors
christ DC.
>>83877358
I hate how everyone pretends Guardians invented the "team of misfits" thing
>>83877374
This one gets me every time lol.
>>83877414
Dirty Dozen apparently never existed. Guardians of the Galaxy invented that trope.
>>83877445
We all had high hopes, and it should have been better. Its only up from here right?..................right?
>>83877457
It applied it to cape movies.
And SS is ripping off the style.
>>83877504
Suicide Squad is inspired by Dirty Dozen, we've known that for years.
>>83877527
Sure it is, buddy.
Sure it is.
>>83877272
>>83877266
>>83877138
>tfw John Carter actually wasn't awful
>no one cared about it though
>>83877504
So because a comic book movie does it its suddenly new and frowned on when another does it? Right....
>>83877569
You do realize the criminal Suicide Squad goes back to the 80s right?
>>83877569
Do you think Suicide Squad is copying Guardians of the Galaxy or Dirty Dozen, because if it's the latter, Suicide Squad is inspired by the Dirty Dozen.
>>83877482
Maybe the fact that so many people seem to be down on it could work in its favor, possibly.
Hype backlash can be a bitch so when people go in expecting it to be terrible and it turns out to be pretty decent this could be seen as a win.
>>83877457
E. M. Nathanson, the author of the book that the Dirty Dozen is adapted from, was a huge Marvel Comics fan during its 60s heyday and is on record saying that the book was heavily influenced by Guardians of the Galaxy.
During the film's production Robert Aldrich met with Gene Colan at the Marvel offices in NYC several times for advice.
>>83877603
They really should've made the SS movie a Cold War period piece.
that wall!
>>83877680
>E. M. Nathanson, the author of the book that the Dirty Dozen is adapted from, was a huge Marvel Comics fan during its 60s heyday and is on record saying that the book was heavily influenced by Guardians of the Galaxy.
So his book, which was released in 1965, was inspired by a Marvel group that appeared in 1969 and wasn't even about what the modern Guardians are about?
>>83875265
Not muh ism inherently carries bias and is toxic to all discussion.
Plenty of beloved capeshit characters barely 'resemble the source material' (as if theres ever been more VAGUE a fucking statement - what specific source material are you possibly referring to and what gives that issue/series/run/episode more weight than any other?) but were excused because the movie surrounding them was good.
>>83877761
Me thinks you took the bait.
>>83877761
Colan wrote two versions of the concept, the one published in 1969 and the one later adapted by Dan Abnett in hsis 2008 series.
Nathanson was friends with Stan Lee from his work in the NYC publishing world and knowing each other from the NYC Jewish community. Lee told him about Colan's unused idea, which was combined with research Nathanson had been doing about WWII to create the Dirty Dozen.
>>83877886
Come the fuck on.
You say "Superman" to anyone, anywhere and they all have a similar idea of what he's supposed to be like.
It sure as shit wasn't what was in MoS or BvS.
>>83878066
Is it wrong that when I think of Superman I think of the DCAU version and what I come to hope for?
>>83878066
Invincible guy in blue tights that flies around and is really strong and saves the world.
Superman is a poor case because people tend to reduce him to his powers and feats and his personality is secondary if considered at all.
>>83878121
It's the only right view to have, anon.
>>83878138
Autists like you, maybe.
Most people know him as a shining symbol for good who helps people and does what's right.
Not a mopey distant god who agonizes over what to do.
>>83878157
Did jobbing help his character in that universe? I felt that he was OP when he needed to be but wasnt annoyed when he got hurt.
>>83878176
Look at my first post>>83875166
>tired unsubstantiated "Not muh"-isms that ruin discussion
Then look at your post
>Most people know him as .....
Congrats, youve done it. A completely unsubstantiated and tired generalization meant to shut down a discussion through perceived authority.
You are the problem
>You say "Superman" to anyone, anywhere and they all have a similar idea of what he's supposed to be like.
Not really; that's why it's can be so difficult to get him to resonate with people.
>>83874617
>Is the movie going to be a gritty villain driven action movie, or a slapsticky deconstruction of superhero films?
why can't it be both
>>83878176
Dude I agree with you. But when you talk to people that like the Snyderverse they go "WHAT HE FLIES. HE SAVED THE ENTIRE PLANET. HE'S TOTALLY SUPERMAN".
The fact that I wouldn't follow that mopey piece of shit to McDonalds let alone into battle doesn't seem to get through to them because he has a version of the costume and the achievements.
Maybe that other anon is right. If you're so caught up in your own head you can't even tell when someone is on your side then there is a problem.
>>83878321
I'd say "because then you get Green Lantern" but at this point I'm willing to be there are people here that will defend that movie too.
>>83878268
I'm the solution. The problem is Snyder. The cause is people like you thinking that characterization doesn't matter.
Luckily, MoS and BvS were failures, showing that you and your beliefs have literally no value.
>>83878339
>But when you talk to people that like the Snyderverse
We can safely ignore all 3 of them.
http://pdsh.wikia.com/wiki/Death%20Patrol
http://pdsh.wikia.com/wiki/Deadly_Dozen
Check this out, both predated The Deadly Dozen and GOTG.
>>83878321
Because it's hard to do both serious and silly together well. Not that it's impossible, but usually you just end up with a work having a really uneven tone undercutting the serious parts and killing the humor.
>>83878372
Green Lanterns problem was half assing it from the start. They wrote a script that was tv movie tier, the CGI was shit, and they had most of it set on earth. You have to go all out with the material
>>83878513
>They wrote a script that was tv movie tier,
Uh no dude. The problem was they wrote like THREE scripts. One of which was fucking awesome. It had Alan Scott, the Corps actually doing shit, more time in space, Guy Gardner an Clark Kent cameos, better Star Sapphire references, and no fucking Parallax cloud.
But instead of going with that, then some of the suits said "We want a comedy! People are laughing during Iron Man! Make it like that!" and others still went "It needs drama! Pathos! Like BATMAN!" and so more drafts got written and taken apart and combined so that we ended up with a shambling Frankenstein's monster that you saw on screen.
>>83878948
From what I recall, there were two good scripts. One was a Berlanti one which is the one you're talking about, and the other was one by Geoff Johns.
For some reason they just took random parts from both and thought it'd end up good.
