Why did this movie garner such rave reviews?
>>83873393
"Another Marvel success! The formula works!"
I saw it, and it was just kind of okay. Not as good as Ant-Man or Winter Soldier.
>>83873393
Disney BUX
>>83873393
It's safe, it's mediocre, it doesn't offend anyone. Your standard Marvel fair that normies eat up.
>>83873393
Cause its really good.
Sorry you got triggered because it doesn't have your characters of choice in it. Short of Winter Soldier, its the best MCU movie.
>>83873393
Because taste differs.
>>83873393
It was nice.
Though be prepared for the thread to be taken over by mad as fuck fanboys of other dead franchises.
>>83873393
Whatever conspiracy theory everyone else is accepting this week to make me pretend to be intelligent and part of the group because I can't think for myself and scared of being thought different.
>>83873393
It was the Avengers sequel people were waiting on. Ashame it had to come at the expense of any character development for Bucky.
>co stars in 2 movies
>doesn't even get his arc resolved and literally gets fridged
Smh tbqh
>>83873463
But X-Men Apocalypse was shit on.
>>83873528
Because now characters are getting attention in team-up movies.
It's no longer only about their appearance in solo ones.
So, for how many eons do you think the DCasuals will be salty about this?
>>83873521
But anon everyone knows Disney owns RT
>>83873549
What? That's not a good reason for Bucky having no clear motivation to take over as Cap after Evans dies in IW. Marvel can't into plot or pacing.
>>83873557
No one mentioned DC until you. Damage control much?
>>83873576
They are the ones who are legitimately angry at CW.
It's a great movie.
>>83873569
You forgot to add the new Alice movie.
>>83873569
Add Pirates of the Caribbean 4 and Alice 2.
Because it was a good capeshit movie.
>>83873589
But I loved Man of Steel and Batman v. Superman, but I could still enjoy the Marvel movies. Civil War was good, but not great. It only had a few good scenes and was a little slow at times. Not to mention the other problems.
>>83873569
Disney's pretty good at picking and choosing which of their movies to bribe critics with, yeah.
>>83873557
Oh, this will always be an argument on /co/. Even if Justice League ends up being amazing, they'll be just as sour. Hell, they might be more sour with a decent movie to point to.
>>83873574
Maybe we should wait for Infinity War then.
>>83873393
Because it's good and a milestone of storytelling in film.
To spend over a dozen movies building an empire in a story and then grounding it in a very humanistic way just to let it crumble.
It's a movie that wouldn't work if you didn't care about the characters, or atleast know about them, but it delivers for the hundreds of millions of people that do.
>>83873615
>Not to mention the other problems.
Oh, do go ahead.
>>83873616
At least Disney is smart enough to bribe critics, instead of buying RT and getting cucked by your own website.
>>83873487
how dare you
>>83873616
yeah, they only bribe critics to give good reviews to the good movies they make
>>83873616
We are going to go full /x/ before just accepting that critics have had a hate-boner for Snyder for years now?
>>83873637
Ugh. I'm on my phone right now and have them written down on the computer. I've got bad memory at times so only big important things, or very memorable ones are easy for me to remember. I'll do it though if you really want me to.
>>83873393
The better question is why did Force Awakens?
>>83873393
It was a decent movie about characters that everyone likes and it was midly serious.
At this point people just want to watch those characters doing shit because that's the thing they like.
They could do a movie about the average day of the Avengers' life and people would love it.
>>83873660
"Why do you hate this movie?"
"SNYDER IS A WHITE MALE!"
"ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
>>83873621
What? There are gonna be like 30 characters in that. Them wasting 3.5 hours worth of movies and not resolving his personal issues was a huge blunder. Its why TWS sucks.
>>83873603
But Caribbean 4 was better than 2 and 3.
>>83873705
Not really.
Pirates 4 was just an uninspired and phoned in Jack Sparrow spinoff.
>>83873665
That actually is a better question, and I didn't even hate TFA.
It was filmed beautifully, acted averagely, and written terribly.
>>83873715
>>83873665
Because the hype for it was inmense and it wasn't as horrible as the prequels.
Hype affects a lot people's opinions on something, it has to be really bad for people to accept that it's bad, and if it is, they'll start yelling and saying that it's the worst piece of shit ever made.
I wasn't hyped for TFA, and when I watched it I thought it was a 6/10, but I know what it feels to finally get something you've been waiting for years.
>>83873660
Yes because until BvS the dominant "theory" was they're all just Donnerfags despite literally not a single review even mentioning Donner.
>>83873665
>>83873715
Progressive Points. The real reason BvS did poorly was because Batman branded a sex trafficker and that triggered a lot of people because they're afraid it will inspire people to go after them.
:^)
>>83873569
John carter wasn't a bad movie. Shame it gets shit on so often.
>>83873393
because it was good
>>83873750
And what will you say when critics shit on Wonder Woman?
>>83873393
A more personal movie about characters that people like and that have been around for years now.
That's all there is to it, likeable characters.
Hell, the entire MCU exists because people like Tony Stark.
>>83873772
Probably that it sucked. Worst case scenario: it's bad and audience/critics love it. Then they might copy its style for later movies. It's basically random whether people like or dislike a movie; it has nothing to do with the actual quality.
>>83873772
I honestly can't wait for that movie.
Gadot is going to get exposed hard. Why has no one noticed literally every movie she's "starred" in has flopped both commercially and critically?
>>83873796
I think it's flop will have more to do with the fact that a week before Pirates of the Caribbean 5 comes out, and a week later Transformers 5 does.
>>83873693
Shit, I always forget that the Russos are black trans-lesbians
>>83873750
There was nothing particularly progressive about TFA, unless you're really old or really retarded.
>>83873784
I hate Tony Stark as a character. He's so annoying. But even I felt bad for him after his fight with Cap and Bucky.
>>83873393
They pay for good reviews
>>83873750
TFA wasn't that progressive.
I mean, apart from having a female Mary Sue, there wasn't much.
Finn was just a non-CGI Jar Jar Binks.
>>83873814
>one week after PotC 5
>one week before Transformers 5
What was WB thinking? Do they want the movie to flop?
>>83873880
They can't really move it.
They either fight those, or they fight against Furious 8 and GOTG2.
>>83873880
maybe they're hoping Disney will forget to pay off critics for PotC?
>>83873872
Finn was too competent to be JarJar.
He was more of a Luke than Rey was, that's for sure.
>>83873899
Yeah that would be even worse.
>>83873908
>implying Pirates won't make a ton of money even if it gets shit reviews
>>83873914
>competent
He didn't do much, apart from acknowledging the fact that you don't need to be a jedi to wield a lightsaber, he was just kind of there.
>>83873899
Remember when WB Capekino was the 800 lb gorilla everyone was worried about scheduling too close to?
>>83873908
Pirates 4 made more than a billion at the box office and it has a 50% on RT.
>>83873934
That's a big gorilla, btw
>>83873934
And it was still shit
>>83873950
In your opinion, perhaps.
>>83873956
No, TDKR is pure kino.
>>83873956
TDKR is a masterpiece compared to MoS and BvS though.
Name a popular movie that 4chan thinks is good and got proper reviews in the last five years.
>>83873945
That's because
A. Disney is killer at overseas distribution
and
B. No one was making better Pirate movies at the same time.
>>83873984
Deadpool.
>>83873754
The leads were adequate, the script was uneven, and the SFX was more expensive than it needed to be. But the marketing sucked so hard and the title dropped "of Mars" for silly reasons, I don't think the director was at fault there.
>>83873984
Drive
>>83873984
TWS and...
Yeah, only TWS if we're talking about /co/ and comic book movies. GotG and Ant-Man were well received here at first, but now there's a lot of contrarians who say they're shit.
>>83873930
I said more competent than JarJar Binks, then I compared him to fucking ANH Luke-- I'm not saying he's Lois Lane in Man of Steel that for some reason has a major purpose in every scene.
The only junior cast member more useful than him was Rey and she was a Mary Sue, so you need to choose which hill you want to die on, bruh.
>>83873984
Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy
Deadpool
if you are talking capekino
>>83873986
That sure makes me feel supergrim
>>83873984
Zootopia I guess? I haven't seen it yet so I can't say for sure, but it looks alright to me.
>>83873984
>Name a popular anything that hipsters think is good
>>83874000
>memepool
>good
>>83874030
Zootopia isn't liked, it's just furshits latching onto the lates shit they like, just like they did with Undertale months ago and FNAF a year ago.
>>83874043
>>83873393It deserved them.
>>83873908
PotC 4 rested entirely on Depp's Depping after Legolas and Knightley left.
But with his string of underperformers I don't know if the world still wants more Depping
>>83873393
it was good
>>83874072
The thing that made PotC work is that the main characters were Legolas and Knightley, while Jack Sparrow stole the show with his scenes.
It's the same as with Quicksilver in X-Men, he has fun scenes that steal the whole thing, but a whole movie focused on him would kill the ''magic''.
That's probably why they brought back Orlando Bloom for Pirates 5.
>>83873393
>Civil War was a decent movie, but so downbeat, overcrowded and open-ended, I didn't draw much entertainment from it
>X-Men Apocalypse is a mess that noone involved with cared about
>BvS is made by Snyder
>>83874183
>Deadpool was Reddit the Oficial Cinematic Picture
>Suicide Squad is pandering to edgy teenagers so hard it's basically the Watch Dogs 2 of games
>nothing is known about Dr. Strange
>>83874006
>and the SFX was more expensive than it needed to be
That's not our problem, now, is it.
It exists and looks fantastic. I don't care about Disney marketing.
Mostly because it's trendy to like it. Why do you think /co likes it? Because normies do.
>>83874223
There's no consensus in /co/ idiot, Marvelfags liked it, DCfags hated it, and Foxfags only exist during the week after a X-Men movie comes out.
>>83874211
>Suicide Squad is pandering to edgy teenagers so hard it's basically the Watch Dogs 2 of games
That has me worried. Also is it still PG13?
>Deadpool was Reddit the Oficial Cinematic Picture
Now even I think you're just a cynical fuck.
Deadpool movie was ok. At least it was mostly true to the source material and actually had a decent X-Man character in it that wasn't Wolverine.
>>83874182
>they brought back Orlando Bloom for Pirates 5.
Well that's better.
>>83874182
>That's probably why they brought back Orlando Bloom for Pirates 5.
>PoTC5
There's a fourth?
>>83874686
Welcome to 5 years ago.
>>83873616
>Not bribing critics for a Brad Bird Movie
your insane logic makes no sense
>>83874706
Huh..
>>83874748
>330 million
But m-muh ultimate cut...m-muh capekino...
>>83873628
Well the movie is the third movie in a series films about Captain America and around the 12th marvel movie.
I get why Apocalypse was shit on, that shit marketing and awful promos.
I get the problems with BvS.
But CW isn't really 50% better than both.
>>83875446
But CW only has 2.5 points more than BvS and X-Men.
>>83875446
+50% isn't a rating. A movie could in theory have a 100% rating and still have all the reviews be "It was pretty okay."
>>83875446
>not knowing how RT works
It's the average rating you should be looking at, not the score. That's just how many people liked the movie.
>>83875446
The tomato percentage only means how many reviewers liked it
The real aggregate score is the fraction one
>>83875491
I wanna live on this planet a bit more.
>>83875446
Captain America: Civil War - 7.6
Deadpool - 6.9
X-Men: Apocalypse - 5.6
Batman v Superman - 4.9
These are the actual scores.
>>83875446
RT percentages only mark the percentage of people who reviewed the movie liked it or not, it's not an actual score.
They probably passed out ecstasy at every critic screening. It would explain why it got suchravereviews.
>>83875641
CARLOS
It was amazing.
TWS may be a better movie, but CW was such a big and outstanding piece of work, that it simply doesn't fucking matter.
Difference between 10/10 or 9/10 isn't that big of a deal for a movie.
Let alone a rare good capeshit.
Through I fully understand DCfags suffering, since - yeah, it's painful to watch Marvel do DC's job, while WornerBros is digging up their grave deeper and deeper. I want to see a good JL movie as much as Avengers III.
It's a shame, that this probably won't happen in the next couple of decades.
>>83875707
It's more of a difference between 7 and 7.5/10 with Civil War and Winter Soldier though. Still below Man of Steel for me. There just aren't very many memorable moments in Marvel movies while DC has a ton of them.
>>83873662
>have them written down on the computer
you must be a huge loser
>>83875793
TDKR's opening is probably the most memorable scene ever made in superhero films.
>>83875793
Am I on Earth-2 /co/?
>>83875861
For unintentional comedy value and meme magic.
>>83873828
Hey, after the Wachowskis, who knows...
>>83875857
Whatever it takes to win every argument. Plus this way I don't have to remember every scene from bad movies to say why I think they're bad. Trust me, it's worth it.
>>83875793
Being remembered for being a huge disappointment and laughably bad is not a good thing Johnson.
>>83873393
Hah. I forgot this movie even happened. It was fun, but pretty damn forgettable.
How do we get them to break the Marvel formula?
>>83876646
Trust me, it's not. You're one step away from being that fat dc nigger who makes 5 videos/day hating marvel and nolan.
Better go make some friends kid.
>>83876814
It's better than going "uhh I dunno" when people ask "why didn't you like this movie" because it's been years since you've last seen it. Then it'll be "hah you can't prove that it's bad so it must be good!" Then you'll have to watch the movie again to remember why it's bad. Plus, why would I do this if I had no one to discuss it with? Think before you post.
>>83876878
>Why would I shitpost on an anonymous japanese imageboard if I had friends?
>>83876731
Why would you break something that works everytime?
>>83876878
>he feels the need to prove himself in an anonymous website where none can recognize you
Why don't you get a trip already if you are so much of an insecure faggot?
>>83873796
>Gadot is going to get exposed hard
>>83876731
What formula?
>>83876918
This might be unbelievable to you, but some people here actually have some good insights. You may be too cynical to see it, but I can see the good in everyone. How about reading a Superman comic for once? If you even read comics.
>>83873984
Witch.
>inb4 >popular
>>83873984
Everyone who's not elitist "MUH DEEP PLOT" seemed to love John Wick here.
>>83873393
Because it was pretty good. Not great, but good. At this point on /co Marvel Studios can do no right due to high levels of salt. The /co/ntrarianism is at a peak high
>>83873665
It's the neo-trilogy all over again. People have been waiting so long for a new Star Wars movie that even though the new movie is mediocre, everyone as a group is deluded into thinking it's good just so they don't feel bad about their favorite franchise turning to shit.
>>83877082
>popular movie
>>83877197
How is it not?
Everyone seemed to cream their pants over it "saving action movie genre" at the time.
>>83877190
Mediocre is better than bad.
>its memorable so it's good
No. FUCK OFF.
>>83873984
4chan is Armond White: The Imageboard
>>83874284
A consensus is not necessarily unanimous agreement, idiot.
/co and most Internet fanboard types in general are mostly in love with these movies because it's FINALLY something that connects them to normal people.
Would /co be as hyped about the Disney cape movies if regular people didn't love them?
Face it lemmings, half the reason you love the MCU so much is because lots of other people do and it won't be as big a deal to you when the next zeitgeist thing happens.
It'll become just another thing you talk about with sections of Internet people only, like waifus and Crystal Gems and whateverthefuck.
You'll still like it just fine, but you'll understand that most of your hype for it was just memeing.
>>83877435
Dude, if I could press a button that nuked half the population I would do it before you could ask why.
Still love the MCU.
>>83876964
She's got easy to find nudes, dude.
>>83877435
>you're just pretending to like them!
DCfriends are hilarious.
>>83873393
It's the worst captain America movie by far. I guess people liked the airport fight ? The rest is legitimately a horrible film even by comic book movie standards
>>83873569
None of those are billion dollar IPs.
Disney should have bribed them for John Carter, it's a lot better than their Star Wars
>>83873393
All that matters in a movie, all that EVER matters, is that feeling you get right as you walk out of the theater. If your movie leaves the audience feeling depressed and drained when they weren't expecting to be, then it's not going to be remembered fondly when it comes time to talk about it.
>>83873772
You don't even need to wait for WW, just look for the eventual Ghostbusters reboot reviews in a few weeks
>>83877435
>You can't actually like things! It's all just memes!
This isn't MGS2
>>83878387
>None of those are billion dollar IPs.
Alice is (was)
>>83876985
Ah, yes, the impeccable "if you don't like Superman you're a bad person" argument
Now I take you seriously.
>>83878536
Just because the last film made a billion dollars doesn't mean Disney spent billions of dollars into getting the rights to it and selling toys for it and making roller coasters based off of it
Either way even a critic can't spin Alice into being good. They can spin an average film (the force awakens) into being great just as well as spinning it to be bad (John Carter)
>>83878593
>Disney spent billions of dollars into getting the rights to it
What rights? Alice is public domain.
>>83877190
This is one of the dumbest of /tv/ pseudo-intellectualisms.
The people that like TFA now are different than the people that liked the original triology in the same way that people that liked the Civil War comic aren't the hundreds of millions of people that praised the movie.
Millennials weren't desperate for another Star Wars because their most vivid memory of the franchise was the prequels. I'm not alone when I say I would have been content never seeing another Star Wars movie in my life time. I never saw the appeal and still don't-- although KOTOR 1 and 2 were dope.
How did Zemo know that Iron Man would follow them to the hidden base?
How did Zemo know that only Cap and Bucky would make it out of the hangar fight?
If Zemo's plan was to disband the Avengers and stew mistrust between the heroes, why did he blow up the UN meeting when that would have accomplished that goal anyways?
Did he read the script? When he drowned that Hydra guy was it really to get the script?
>>83879311
>When he drowned that Hydra guy was it really to get the script?
Fucking upboat m8 xDD
>>83879311
>How did Zemo know that Iron Man would follow them to the hidden base?
He knew Bucky would, and he knew Steve would follow Bucky.
Once he got there he called the hotel and asked for breakfast in order for the maid to discover the body and to 'assemble' the Avengers to the bunker. What it actually did was corroborate the story that Cap told Tony about Zemo impersonating the interrogator, and since everyone else was in prison, crippled, or depressed Tony went alone.
>How did Zemo know that only Cap and Bucky would make it out of the hangar fight?
He didn't know there was going to be a hangar fight, retard.
>If Zemo's plan was to disband the Avengers and stew mistrust between the heroes, why did he blow up the UN meeting when that would have accomplished that goal anyways?
To find Bucky?
Because a little bit of legislation wasn't doing jack shit-- hell Cap almost signed even after the fact.
>Did he read the script? When he drowned that Hydra guy was it really to get the script?
xd
>>83877614
D-do you have more?
>>83873393
It was nice.
>>83873569
those aren't franchises, the mcu and star wars are
>>83881638
Pirates of the Caribbean was, and one of Disney's most profitable ones.
>>83881638
>implying John Carter and Lone Ranger weren't slated for sequels
You have to get past one movie to become a franchise, son. And if you don't think that was the plan then you are exceptionally retarded.
>>83881638
>implying Lone Ranger wasn't supposed to be their new Pirates of the caribbean
>>83881716
This. They originally planned for John Carter to be their own Star Wars franchise, but then it flopped, so they decided to just buy the real thing.
>>83877082
>Reddit the Movie
>good
