Let's be real here guys.
For all the batfans who jizz their pants at this part
>>83872937
Meh, it's true
>>83872937
>remmember
>>83872960
lol yup.
Always makes me think bruce planned this speech before hand and thought the fight was going to go more his way
>>83872937
nah, i climaxed at his fight with joker.
>>83872937
Thought it was cheesy as hell, the build up was too big for the payoff.
>>83872937
God you are butthurt. The whole point was that bruce pulled his punches too, he didnt used a mortal K mix, he didnt want to harm clark, he just wanted to give clark a clean exist from working as the president errand boy. Fucking fanboys
>>83873623
I never thought of it that way.
Thanks
>>83873623
>he didnt want to harm clark
But he harmed him pretty intentionally and without regret.
>doesn't give credit to all the help Ollie gave him
>has to fake a heart attack to end the fight
>still considered to be the winner of the fight
How is this considered a classic?
>>83873623
Lets all post more Batgod beating up supercuck.
Batwank is fucking bullshit and it drags down the rest of the cast to slum below Le Batgod. He is supposed to be a normal human but because of fan boys and shit writers he can beat up demigods that can move planets, a man who can run faster then light, and immortal conquers with technology light years ahead of Earths.
>>83872937
>this is my super hero
>he is the strongest and can kill everyone and can destroy the earth and fly inspace and can also nothing hurts him but only kriptonite hurts him and can also kill everyone but he doesnt so he makes all the other heros work for him
>>83875704
But Batman isn't weak to Kryptonite.
>>83872979
The extra M is for extra Mmemory.
>What's that M for?
That's a typo.
>>83874309
Because if you're not a faghot who thinks he won the fight then you shouldn't have a problem
>>83875719
SLAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
>>83875661
I think it's suppose to be one of those "will of man vs powers of God" type things. Man eventually over comes all problems they face.unless it has to do with the economy
>>83875733
Well that's because he didn't win, winners usually walk away from the fights after their over, not pretend to be dead.
>>83875762
That's what i like about Batman. He reminds me of those old crafty fuckers from folk tales that manage to stand up against god using nothing but their wit. Of course it usually ends up being some bullshit that doesn't make much sense, but when written right batwank can be incredibly entertaining.
Wasn't Green Arrow the one who fired the Kryptonite Arrow?
Batman sucks.
>>83873623
Mega-Bait. Go on, counter-bait by bringing up "tripfag".
>>83875819
This, batwank is incredibly entertaining when done right. Usually when they take note from proto batwanks. Like when Atlas taught the humans in Greek mythology how to trick Gods using the power of fire. Of course, that ended with Zeus tricking them to open Pandora's box, but even then they managed to survive it and developed hope.
>>83875575
>>83872937
It was out of character and seemed to come from a place of frustration projected by the writer that resonates with certain fans. This made the conflict more about Bruce's pride than any sort of sense of right which cheapened the moment, the character, and the story that remains fantastic despite this.
>superfags thinking they're any less insufferable than batfags
>proceed to create threads with snarky, un-proofread superwank images
>>83875549
Batman would just put some substance on the Sun hat would make it emmit kriptonite.
>>83872937
Nah. Batman wouldn't be too dumb to spell remember wrong.
>>83876457
>Cho is a batfag
I loved these movies but man was Superman out of character
>Sure, you're doing good work and keeping the city safe while the rest of the country is in chaos but you're embarrassing the president so I need to beat the shit out of you.
I wait for the day a writer lets Supes kill Bruce with a casual bitch slap that pops his head like a zit.
I feel like Injustice Supes should have gotten the chance to do that.
>>83876159
Batman is Miller's extrapolation of the ultimate human ideal, free, unhindered by moral relativism, doing all that he can
To Miller, Superman represents The State. Inhibiting liberties, incessant nannying, not letting anyone reach their potential
Batman must defeat Superman in order to realize his final goal, which is no longer fighting clowns and crooks but the the hands of human corruption
This is all more clearly stated in DKSA
Is this a valid interpretation?
>>83876815
Shows a clear misunderstanding of the text.
See me after class
>Batman vs Superman
>Not Batman on Superman.
Too many fags in this thread.
>>83875916
Prometheus.
>>83876815
The flippancy over Reagan, Superman fighting proxy wars for a corrupt government, and the script heavily imply the Russian nuke is directly because of Superman's continued assault on foreign forces
>>83873623
Pretty much. Literally right before this line he outright says he could have killed him if he wanted.
>>83876815
i'm really pissed they're comparing Bruce and Carrie to Lolita. like super mad
>>83877064
they are kinda right about Supes, that was Miller's thing he was forced into this shit bc otherwise nuclear war was gonna happen and he hates being a stooge.pretty sure DKSA plays this out even more
>>83876980
Fuck, I always mess up on names.
>>83877142
Batman and his daughter in DKSA both say he could have done more good fighting than surrendering his power so quickly
The "I will not fight nor will I flee" scene states that point, his unwillingness to get messy doesn't resolve his conflict like force would
>>83873351
>stop laughing
>>83872937
You do understand that this was a part of the strategy? That he knew Superman would be pulling his punches? And if he knew it'd be otherwise, he'd plan a different strategy for a fight where Super goes full out?
It's like people forget that the one superpower Batman has is that, given enough time, he can find a strategy on how to defeat anyone.
>>83873623
So really no one wins because they were both holding back immensely.
But this is still somehow Batman's greatest moment.
>>83877254
Batman doesn't have a daughter in DKSA.
>>83872937
Why do these threads exist when everyone on /co/ know writer fiat decides everything regardless of power-set or logic?
At least admit to blatant baiting so this thread has a point.
His plan was actually to fake his death. It's why in the original script he brings up Lois to get Superman into a rage and is disappointed when the FBI is able to revive him the first time
>>83876597
It was a commission iirc
>>83877796
i think he means superman`s daughter
>>83877731
Yeah, that's a draw, notice how neither of them walked away from that fight? I'd even go as far as saying Kal lost that fight because he was beaten into a coma, whiles Doomsy was just ko'ed.
>>83877796
yeah I couldn't remember Superman's daughter's name and was typing fast. I'll clarify
>>83877481
the whole fight itself was pretty hot too ngl
>>83873623
>>83877098
Yeah, says Bruce because he's trying to make a point that Superman isn't invincible. Just because he said it, doesn't make it true, when there's a very obvious reason for him to, y'know, lie.
>>83874309
You're not a Batfag.
>>83872937
This comic is why God gave Frank Miller cancer.
>>83875704
I realize you're exaggerating to try and make Superman sound like a child's attempt to one-up everyone, but considering there are literally thousands of Lanterns who have the power and versatility to give him a good fight you're just full of shit.
>>83876716
And yet Miller himself admitted he couldn't think of a way for Batman to actually win the fight, so he had to bullshit the whole thing.
>>83877752
There's a difference between pulling punches, and not simply unplugging Batman's armor.
>>83878670
That's what I call a sticky situation
>>83878553
How could you tell?
>>83878877
The reasons this isn't a win for Batman are obvious to you.
>>83878699
Pretty sure his armor got unplugged in the fight anon. If anything I think he only hooked up on the grid for that taser attack.
>>83872937
Based Frank Miller, still triggering Superautists TO THIS DAY.
>>83878940
It's been a while since I read it but I'm 80% sure in the comic it had to be plugged in to function at all.
>>83879156
The things Batfags tell themselves...
>>83879230
I don't remember them saying anything at all about the armors capabilities, just that when he tased Superman in the head it basically killed the city's power grid.
>>83875549
Did Superman just use his X-ray vision?
Does lead not exist in this fanmade universe?
>>83878622
I take it you haven't read Injustice.
>>83879389
You think Superman isn't aware of large areas blocked off with lead? It only tells him there's something there someone is trying to hide from him.
>>83879421
I take it you haven't realized Injustice proves my point.
>>83879421
No one should read injustice
>>83879524
Superman literally destroys Green Lantern corps
>>83879501
Or yknow.. a lead mine.
>>83879501
So he just destroys an entire planet whenever he sees something made of lead?
>>83879570
With his cadre of cronies and help from the sinestro corps. Before the ring Ganthet was smacking his uppity bitch ass.
>>83879570
The point of the Injustice comic was to account for all the beings in DC that could have challenged Superman's regime, it's about how his world reached that point where he actually was on top.
>>83879607
He was trying to keep his cool the entire fight.
After he kills Black Canary he goes full baby ragemode and takes out the corps in one blow
>>83879644
After he killed Black Canary he also gets inducted into the Sinestro Corps with his power amplified by pretty much 7 billion people scared of him for what he did to Black Canary on live television. The comic even flat out says this.
>>83879596
...or he just pays attention to it because he's not retarded. "Hey, Batman took a bunch of stuff into the lead-lined area of his cave, maybe it's something he wants to hide from me." The problem with prep against Superman is, you can't hide the fact you're prepping. He doesn't have to know what you're up to, to know you're up to something.
>>83879644
You mean when he was amped up with a yellow ring powered by the intense fear of an entire planet?
>>83879708
>into the lead-lined area of his cave
>implying Batman doesn't have multiple "batcaves"
>implying Batman doesn't buy up different sorts of properties and then outfits them with whatever he thinks he or his sidekicks might need for their war on crime
Anon, come on.
>>83879769
>implying you can line entire caves all over Gotham/the world with lead without Superman noticing
Just how reluctant are Batfags to remember Superman is literally a genius?
>>83879810
You're thinking of it the wrong way by thinking he needs to buy a place and line it with lead.
>Wayne Industries buys a lead mine for the sole purpose of cutting the middleman when it comes to acquiring resources, says it's cheaper and allows them to fully utilize the mine for their tech division products
>Build a batcave inside it.
>Bruce goes to the mine for a "suprise inspection" several times, comes out looking like all he did was inspect the place
Now if Superman panics because Bruce went in a lead mine that just makes him look like a paranoid git.
>>83879890
If they were approaching a conflict you can be sure he'd check on these so-called coincidences like lead mines, or are you assuming Batman is the only one allowed to know the fight is going to happen?
>>83879810
How reluctant are Superman writers to show it?
>>83879930
Anon, it's over the course of months, weeks, or even years. Bruce has to build these things bit by bit to keep the appearances of "just an inspection" going. They both know things a fight is gonna go down, but Batman's already assembled what he needed while they didn't have any conflict. That's why preptime is assosciated with Batman and not Superman.
>>83880008
They showcase it every once in a while, like Superman reading up on an entire library's worth of medical text to acquire knowledge needed to perform a delicate surgical operation. It's just very heavily downplayed because his villains tend to see the brawn more than the brain.
>Its a Batman v Superman thread
Christ almighty guys, given the right circumstances and plot, either could beat either. Remember these are fictional characters that can really do anything the writers want
>>83880072
And...so what? Superman would still be aware of these locations, he'd be aware of how Batman operates and that Bruce would have been doing SOMETHING to get ready for the fight. Don't forget Superman gave him the kryptonite ring/bullet/whatever version the canon is now as a sign of his trust. He KNOWS Batman will be ready, there's no possible way he wouldn't expect it. Superman might not know exactly what Batman cooked up, but he'd know there's something.
>>83880154
Except in every circumstance and plot so far, Batman has lost, or barely escaped alive.
>>83880266
So what you're saying is Superman is a paranoid bint. That's pretty out of character for him.
>>83880292
Pretty much. In all the years and various media where they showed up, it took Hack Snyder to give Batman a decisive win.
>>83880154
>these are fictional characters that can really do anything the writers want
That's it! I just have to become a writer! Then Batman won't have a choice!
>>83879630
>>83879644
>>83879697
Sounds like garbage.
Who reads this crap?
>>83880303
No, I'm saying he doesn't turn into a retard just because he's fighting Batman.
>>83872937
It doesn't matter if Clark pulled his punches or if Bruce did too. All the speech shows is that Bruce has a really deep rooted inferiority complex and makes him look pathetic as hell
>>83880334
Except the part Superman forgot he's faster than a speeding bullet and let the gas rounds hit him. And the part where he wasn't trying to kill Batman at all.
>>83880303
Not that guy, but drawing simple conclusions based on a person's personality of being an untrustworthy and shady shit isn't characteristic of being paranoid, it just means that Superman is not a retard.
>>83880360
He can't turn into what he already is.
>Hurr here's the thing that can kill me. Instead of destroying it or keeping it to myself I'll give it to the paranoid guy that thinks everyone could be out to get him, even me!
>Hurr I'll go and do an interview that would tell everyone just about everything about me including any blindspots I could have instead of letting people think I'm really almighty!
>>83872937
>This Batman uses guns and kryptonite
>Batman couldn't of fucking riddled him with krpytonite core bullets straight away
Call it a draw
>>83880383
Superman taking a fall does not negate that it's a victory for Batman. In sporting events, a victory earned through forfeiture is still a victory, and this scenario is not that far detatched from it.
>>83880334
You mean that fight where Superman came in before it started and said he didn't want to fight and held back until the lunatic poisoned him?
>>83880446
>Superman can't outmove a bullet
>>83880474
Sorry, but it's closer to a couch potato fighting a pro fighter who's blindfolded, got one arm tied behind his back, and told he's only allowed to fight by hitting with his nose hairs. Is it victory when the other guy is forced to take a dive?
It's sad that this is Batman greatest moment to be honest. Lex Luthor has fucked Superman with Kryptonite like this how many times?
>>83880541
>Is it victory when the other guy is forced to take a dive?
Yes. Just because it's not some sort of "glorious honorable battle" doesn't negate the victory.
>>83880514
Why would he dodge a bullet? He can't see the kryptonite core through the lead jacket and by the time he realizes it's k, it's already working on him and the next bullet is one his way.
Batman could kill Supes, sorry bud.
>>83876018
>>83880596
It really does.
>>83880619
And Superman can kill Batman.
>>83880619
>Superman should let Batman hit him, even though he knows how creative and tricks Batman is
>>83880657
>Superman has never defeated anybody who had Kryptonite before
>Fly into stratosphere
>Find Batman with telescopic vision
>Heat vision his ass
>???
>Profit
>>83880704
>"But superman would know batman would do that"
That old chestnut, huh?
>>83880704
*tricky
>>83880671
A hollow victory is still a victory anon. Or are you saying we never really beat the Japanese in WW2?
>>83880727
Seeing as how he's known Batman for decades and has seen him pull this literally thousands of times?
YES.
>>83880677
Never said he couldn't superfag.
>>83880619
And when Superman was actually mad at Batman and wasn't holding back he flew into the Batcave, destroyed everything in there and left Batman a cripple. And there was nothing Batman could do to stop him
The truth is for Batman to match a god, the god has to lower himself first.
>>83880732
Nothing hollow about that, Anon.
>>83880732
>The nukes were a hollow victory
>>83880765
Then Batman would know Supes would think that and lay down distractions, see? Isn't this circular argument you've invoked fun?
>Supesfags
>Even once
>>83880789
>>83880792
How exactly was the Japanese military going to defeat 12-23 kiloton warheads?
>>83880843
Good thing Superman is smarter than Batman then.
>>83880873
Probably should have surrendered after the first one
>>83880873
One side having bigger rocks to throw doesn't mean the other side threw the fight, moron.
>>83880924
>Depends what version
When he has the chair
Keep going
>>83880957
Especially when they started it
>>83872937
Was a Superfan really so butthurt over Superman losing a fight that they made this? What's wrong with you guys?
>>83880938
No one that's ever surrendered is declared a victor anon. Some retard was going on about how "muh honorable fight" and bitching about how much Superman had to throw a fight as if that somehow magically nullifies a victory.
>>83880969
And he lost the chair, it's not a "version" when it's a condition that only existed for one arc. Or do I have to pull pout the Thought Robot? Yeah, keep talking about Bat's giant glowing toilet.
>>83880349
I chuckled audibly
>>83881052
Throwing a fight does nullify victory.
>>83881146
Again, in just about every sporting event a victory obtained through the opponent's forfeiture is still considered a victory. That same rule applies here.
>>83881057
And Supes isn't usually smarter than bats.
>>83881045
superman fans are massive autist
>muh red underwear
>>83876602
Superman grew up in a farm, he isn't exactly someone you'd see questioning the government too much.
>>83881052
Surrendering isn't throwing a fight. Surrender is the trainer throwing in the towel because you're dying out there. Throwing a fight is "Alright I'll go down in the fourth"
>>83881218
And that matters how? Does the referee in the match step in and say "Well ok, guy A clearly wasn't giving it his all and just dove after guy B barely whiffed him, So the judges say that guy A wins"? No. He fucking doesn't. Throwing the match doesn't nullify the other person's victory, and a hollow victory is still a victory. Else it wouldn't have the victory part in that particular term.
>>83881195
True story, he's not even that bad a character but the fans...
>>83881207
He's supposed to have good enough sense and upstanding morals to know that the president was only looking out for his own reputation and not the wellbeing of the citizens.
>>83881195
It's like they're 10 year olds who only like the character because he's the most powerful.
>>83881923
He's also supposed to have good enough sense (from being raised in a farm no less) to realize that you can't talk down a dog with rabies. Doesn't stop retards from throwing a bitchfit whenever Superman kills as a last resort.
>>83876457
>lets villains survive even though it means the deaths of countless others
>calls others pussies
Did Alfred punch out Supes before?
Batman is the reason Karate Kid and Lady Shiva are being held back. Batman should never stand a chance, no matter how hard he tries. It should be like a 2 year old trying to fight a grown built man. But DC will never let anyone outshine Batman(not for long anyway), and nerf them so he will always look good.
>>83881178
>>83881291
A fight isn't a sporting event, kiddies.
>>83882017
Superman had zero reason to fight Batman outside of "THE PRESIDENT TOLD ME TO"
>>83882362
>what is boxing
>what is mixed martial arts
>hell let's even validate pro wrestling into this
Fights are ultimately another form of competition anon, which is the foundation of all sports.
>>83882362
and you managed to miss the point of the comparison, good nitpicking.
>>83882360
To be fair, being trained in martial arts in general counts as a bullshit ability that allows lightweights to be written to punch well above their paygrade.
It shouldn't happen, but hey, writing.
>>83877783
>man holds back from killing superman
>superman holds back from killing man
Guess which is more impressive retard. It's like if you went three rounds with a fly on the wall and the fly could have still fucked you up if it didn't like you.
>>83882360
>Lady Shiva
Good job exposing yourself as someone who doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about. She's Richard Dragon-tier, she isn't being held back, her being the uncontested greatest martial artist is a fucking unwarranted meme she's never been able to back up.
Also Karate Kid operates on a completely different level of reality and is guilty of far higher levels of bullshit than Batman.
>>83883469
>implying Batman could have killed him anyway
>>83882900
Yes anon, some sports are fighting. But not all fighting is sports. Think about it real hard, I'm sure you'll get the idea.
>>83882976
No, you did. Can you claim Batman beat Superman when the writers doesn't write him performing to the best of his ability? Hell, to the best of the ability of a 3rd grader? Miller's problem is he wrote Superman as a power set, and left out all the intelligence, creativity, and experience with his abilities. As in, the things that make him truly dangerous. In DKR, Superman doesn't take half a second to unplug Batman's armor. He's not constantly scanning with X-ray vision to see what Bruce might be trying to hide from him, on his person and in the environment. When you fight Superman you're not fighting a list of powers, you're fighting a genius with the ability to do almost anything physics allows. Superman has rubbed his hands together and generated enough static electricity to seal holes in reality. Heat vision is hotter than the sun. He can vibrate his body fast enough to phase through attacks. He can see radiation coming at him and is fast enough to get out of the way. He's defeated (and out-martial-arted) Batman while he's possessed by Kryptonite Man. He defeated Luthor's giant kryptonite robot and threw it into space. And we're supposed to believe a tiny bit is supposed to threaten him, regardless of Batman's "binding agent" that is supposed to make this bit lethal when literal tons of it have failed? THAT is why DKR is bullshit.
>>83884442
Every sport IS a fight though, it's just not all of them are a matter of physical violence.
>>83884641
You just really hate that your referee analogy is meaningless, don't you? Read that big-ass post above yours. The reason Batman didn't beat Superman is, he wasn't fighting Superman. He was fighting a power set at best with none of the character behind it. And honestly it was a pretty weak version of the power set anyway. I mean, hurt by a nuke? When he flies through red suns? Horse shit.
why did he need Green Arrows help anyway?
why not just keep Kryptonite in his suit??
>>83872937
>"the one man who beat you"
>one
Oliver doesn't count?
>>83884869
>every version of Superman is the exact same
By that analogy Batman should be able to put up a fight because he's also a vampire and a green lantern.
>>83885207
Arrow insisted he help without Batman's permission. Bruce pretty much eyerolled at him the whole time
>>83872937
what cartoon is this from?
>>83884634
Look, not only you drifted further away from the point, then attacked me with a very mature "no U" but also:
>you're fighting a genius
Wew
> a genius with the ability to do almost anything physics allows.
WEW
Ok, so, how come when batman pulls plot armor to beat superman is shit writing and superman's ability being down´played to make batman shine. But when clark pushes any kind of bullshit to defeat some other OP opponent is suddenly in the compass of his abilities and not trash writing to make superman shine?
Or are only the things that do not confirm your preconceptions of superman being an unbeatable mary sue bullshit while everything that does is legitimate?
>>83879580
Lead generally doesn't just come out of the ground as lead.
>>83877142
I think most people who compare shit to Lolita just know the term based on internet porn: they haven't read that terrible book.christ that book was bad.
>>83888653
Certainly not one of Nabokov's better works but as a standard morality play it was decent.
>>83889495
I had to read it for a class in college, and never before has a book left such a bad taste in my mouth.
>>83872937
OP, I enjoy of Miller's cheesy dialogue. A shitty edit ain't gonna change that.
>>83872960
Basically. The Superman/Batman issue where the two kids hypothesize about them fighting says it all. If Superman was in his right mind, and wanted to win, it would be over in seconds.
>>83872937
Why do people act this way when it was the point of the fight?
Do people forget that he got a pill to fake his death and that the entire fight was pretty much just a show?
I think sometimes people are too lost in their obsession over characters to follow or care about the actual comic and the various storylines in it
>>83889537
well it was supposed to be everyone is morally shitty, which is a premise I don't enjoy but it was structured well enough.
>>83889694
Probably because batfags will eternally reverence this moment as the proof that Batman is somehow better than every hero ever.
>>83889800
As long as supesfags are around to get buttblasted, yes.
>>83889800
>Probably because batfags will eternally reverence this moment as the proof that Batman is somehow better than every hero ever.
That's reinforced in DC comics on a monthly basis, Anon.
>>83876457
>this
>coming from the man who won't even rape the Joker
>>83890371
if he rapes the joker he won't have time to fantasize licking jim gordon's ass.
>>83889800
Honestly I only see it brought up by people that complain about it. but I don't lurk the youtube comment sections so I don't know what you guys that only care about power levels actually care about.
>>83890371
It's not that he won't rape the Joker anon. It's that he can't. Rape requires that the other party be unwilling or unable to consent. Do you really see Joker as the type to say no to a bat dicking?
>>83880769
I never actually found out what Batman did to piss Superman off that much. Or why Supes went off into the desert for a while. What issues should I read to find out?
>>83890278
Post one example from the past 6 months.
Of course if you can't, just ignore this and continue crying like a bitch.
>>83890678
Batman #1 where Batman pretty much flies up into the air to save a crashing plane. His plan was perfect and would have saved the plane at the cost of his life. All the Gothams did was save him from dying.
>>83890678
This week in Justice League #51.
>>83890730
This week in Justice League #51.
>>83890730
You mean the Gothams saved the plane AND Batman.
>>83890733
>>83890787
Obvious bait.
>>83890875
Batman already saved the plane, he and Alfred were already talking and the math added up that the plane would be safe and everyone inside would be alive, but he'd be fucked by the pressure from the crash.
>>83890875
>batman schools flash hitting a mook which barry previously could not and telling him how to strike back.
He's a big guy.
>>83890955
so you are pissed that a hero saves people in a comicbook or something?
>>83890733
that issue was to show why Dick can be a superhero and a leader, Batman was just a proxy for that
>>83890875
>Batman being able to kick ass while Green Lantern, Cyborg, and Flash are being shown as incompetent
>bait
No bait there anon. That was some genuine grade-A batwank.
>>83891052
There's nothing wrong with a hero saving the day, but saving crashing planes is outside his wheelhouse. That's the sort of shit Superman does (and has done on multiple occasions).
>>83891159
so your reasoning is that since all other heroes can save a plane with ease showing a human hero try his best to save one and die in the process is showing that he is better hero because he is okay with sacrificing himself even if every other hero in DC has had instances where they were going to sacrifice themselves to help people?
>>83891934
No you moron. I'm saying that these heroes with their varied skills all have their wheelhouses on what they are and aren't capable of doing. Are you some kind of batfaggot that thinks it's perfectly ok for Batman to be able to win a fight against worldbreaker Hulk? Because that's how you sound right now.
>>83892056
Well duh, but the point of the story is to show Batman's limits and what makes him a hero so of course he is going to be shown doing something outside of his comfort zone and the fact that he was going to die while doing it shows that he wasout of his depth
>>83892056
Perhaps you should e-mail Tom King and tell him you're not happy about Batman almost saving a plane full of people, since you're perfectly comfortable bitching about it here.
Autistic fucking baby.
>>83890989
>>83891159
Did you even read the issue? Or were you too busy crying because the writer found some way to make Batman relevant for one panel? He hit one robot. Supes and Wondy were taking them out like they were nothing. Also Dick did the most in the issue, so maybe you should cry about him too.
If you're going to get the shakes every time a member of the Justice League gets a slight power boost or power nerf for an issue then I suggest you never read another issue again.
>>83892766
>Flash literally asking Batman how to connect a punch
>Cyborg going "BOOYAH Batman BOOYAH trained you and BOOYAH trusts you he's a BOOYAH badass so you're a BOOYAH badass too! BOOYAH"
>not batwanking
They're almost literally sucking his dick in the issue anon.
>>83873779
>no lethal dose
>didn't use it right away
>lets green arrow get some revenge
>fakes heart attack instead of killing Clark
Yea he wasn't pull his punches
>>83893016
it was Dickwanking if you didn't get it
>>83893016
Cyborg claimed everyone was badass, you sperg. And that wasn't a Batman buff, it was a Flash nerf. Happens all fucking time.
Also you must have missed the earlier pages where Wondy was talking down to Bats, and GL/Flash were making fun of him.
>>83885207
Supers ripped GA arm off so he couldn't use bow
Begs batman to let him get some revenge
>>83893129
Cyborg was boosting Dick's self esteem by reminding him he was Batman's plus one to that cotillion anon. Not much dickwanking from him there. GL did a better job sucking his dick.
>>83893243
I mean the point of the comic was to set Dick up for the Titan book, Batman is pretty much a stand-in for Dick's potential as his own hero which culminates with >>83891052
>>83890371
>>83890430
>>83890597
Nice try Gordon
>>83887126
Yeah, I have no idea what you're trying to say. I know you're implying I have some sort of double standard but your post is very awkwardly worded.
>>83885339
You need to learn the difference between elseworlds and timelines.
>>83896058
DKSA and TDKR are elseworlds by the fact that Damian doesn't exist in either one, and Dick Grayson only ever becomes looney plastic Joker that gets dropped into a volcano under the batcave in those said elseworlds.
>>83882360
Danny's power is to punch good, I don't think he ever had superstrength
>>83896898
All of them have "punch gud" as their power, the only one that comes close to actually having super strength is Kenshiro, because Hokuto Shinken has a technique to do anything you'd ever want to do.
>>83896898
Who the fuck needs super strength when you are literally the best at punching?
>>83882360
Cass is already stated as a better fighter than Batman
And Lady Shiva was shown as a better fighter in Arkham Origins.
She is being held back in the comics because the Dinosaur Shiva thing is a retarded concept to being with
>>83891052
Wait I'm confused. How did this page in any way relate to Titans: Rebirth
>>83872937
>remmember
>>83872937
Batman planned for Superman to go easy on him
That's part of the fight. He still lost. I'm not even a batfag.
Why does anyone think Batman can beat Superman?
>Batman: A very smart, very rich man which access to a huge variety of weaponary
>Superman: Faster than Light Speed (Vega to Earth in around 1 minute, that's 13140000x FTL), Super Strength (Bench Press the Planet), Heat Vision which works with incredible accuracy from space. Ice Breath. Super Hearing (HOW THE FUCK DOES HE HEAR JIMMY'S WATCH FROM VEGA) and so on
Batman just can't win.
>>83880657
>>83873053
Well of course he planned the speech ahead of time, he's the Goddamn Batman.
>>83873623
>>83873779
It was all a show. Even the speech. Bruce never meant any of it aside from faking his own death. But he had to make it look authentic and it had to be public.
How does no one get this?
>>83896998
If punching is a sport does this mean Sportsmaster is the strongest?
Why doesn't Superman just rape Batman?
>>83875834
>Wasn't Green Arrow the one who fired the Kryptonite Arrow?
yes, and superman proceeded to catch it.
>>83875819
>>83875916
>but when written right batwank can be incredibly entertaining.
I think my favorite is the time Batman got attacked on the JL satellite, hurled himself and the bad guy out the airlock, and used his shark repellant spray to get back to the station
>>83872937
>I want you to remember you didn't go full retard and zap me from existence because of things that cannot harm you
