ITT: Adapted characters that are better than the originals
>>83851392
>Hot Spot
Didn't he have a different name in the comics that was "too controversial" for modern audiences? Like Jihadi or something.
>>83851461
Joto which is like fag in Spanish.
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>>83851392
>>83851392
the only good incarnation of Jan
>>83851461
Regardless on your opinions of the actual character, "Slade" is a lot cooler of a name than "Deathstroke" in my opinion.
>>83851461
>Didn't he have a different name in the comics that was "too controversial" for modern audiences?
"Joto". Which is meaningless to non-Mexicans and didn't need to be changed for the English version.
But the Teen Titans cartoon was super PC and played it safe wherever possible.
>We can't call him DEATHstroke! That name is too violent! We don't want kids to hear the word DEATH! It's scary!
So Slade it is, then.
>>83851578
>>83851568
Didn't they restore his name to "Deathstroke" in most of the foreign dubs?
It was only the English version of TT that thought the name "Deathstroke" was too intense for kids or something.
>>83851461
>>83851616
No.
Brazillian here, it was Slade everywhere.
And Slade is better than Deathstroke.
>>83851392
Did he even do anything?
>>83851691
He had his own episode where he had to fight Madame Rouge
>>83851616
imo the name Slade is more threatening than Deathstroke. The latter sound like it tries too hard
i guess he's a flamer
You know it's true
>>83854212
I agree. It sounds like a combination of Snake and Blade.
>>83854212
>>83851568
Only because the way Robin pronounced it, he could make any name sound sinister.
>>83851392
You first.
>>83851559
Nah, she has two now.
I just wish they didn't kill him off
Pretty obvious.
>>83857797
Are you saying you actually like comic Hot Spot or are you just saying cartoon Hot Spot is worse?
Either way your taste is questionable. Comic Hot Spot's only good moment was sacrificing himself, then that got undone.
Is there even any contest? Antman-616 is a cunt.
>>83851461
his name was Joto, which in Swahili means "Heat", but in Spanish means fag
>>83857171
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>>83851392
>>83857962
I didn't even care for Bucky in the comics but I cannot wait for MCU Bucky to take the mantle of Captain America from Steve. Hell, he may even be capable of lifting Mjolnir and everything.
>>83857965
this whole series really is better than the comic
>>83857826
For what basically is a High School AU, this game has some really likable characterization. I love that they turned Brian Falsworth into a superpowered gay James Bond with wacky tech. Why don't we have a solo series like that?
>>83858099
I was blown away by how shitty the original characters were. It's really the first time I've ever experienced something like that. Whenever someone asks me about Static Shock, I always refer them to the cartoon.
>>83857950
>has fire powers
>his name is Spanish for fag
That's pretty funny
>>83857171
Why did he still have a red star in the movie if he wasn't a Soviet agent?
Seems really weird to make him Hydra, but then not bother to change the obvious Soviet imagery.
>>83851392
Her. or pretty much anyone Timm/Dini touched.
>>83857826
Make that three.
>>83859347
Except Wonder Woman. Or John Stewart. Or Hawkman. Or Catwoman.
>>83857945
With characters like Tony, Hank, Wanda, T'challa they show the flaws of those characters without ever losing sight of their humanity and that they are at their core good people.
The comics just make them into psychos or villains for shock value and then end up with a mess.
Ironically, the MCU, who you might expect to be more wreckless and unsubtle due to the time constraints of the medium, are in fact more considerate of character and nuance than their comic book counterparts.
>>83851392
That show also had best Deathstroke.
>>83857945
>Antman-616 is a cunt.
pymlas is pretty much what id expect an older pym to act like. dont see how hank is a cunt though
>>83859242
Falseflagging.
>>83859636
Slade is a much cooler name than Deathstroke desu
>>83859242
Actually, he was both. It is likely he was part of a cooperative agreement between the Soviet government and Hydra, as his handlers at the beginning of Civil War were Russian and Natasha knew of him.
>>83859242
The Russian angle was a lot more fleshed out in Civil War. Still canonically Hydra, but wearing soviet uniforms, in a Soviet bunker, in a Soviet territory, speaking Russian.
It doesn't take a lot to extrapolate that Hydra had cells within Russia that they used to create the Winter Soldier program. Origins and imagery are preserved.
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>>83857898
>>83859636
I disagree
>>83860270
>>83860134
...naw son. king was a fucking G
>>83851568
>>83851578
>>83851616
>>83851681
>>83854212
>>83857233
>>83857342
My thing is, it made his identity being a mystery kind of... Awkward.
>WHO IS SLADE?
>He's some guy named Slade. Slade Wilson.
>>83860992
Who names their kid Slade?
I liked her character a here a hell of a lot more than Oracle or Batgirl
>>83851392
Artemis and the Sportsfamily from YJ
Tom Kenny Plas is my favorite Plas
>>83860134
I'll give you that for sure. King was a Mary Sue like all recent Reds in Sentai.
>>83861059
I always thought that was the next logical step for Oracle
>>83861108
Yamato isn't a sue, but I'll give you the rest
>>83861061
100%
Young justice also made red tornado amazing
>>83851392
>That episode where tonnes of superheros had to fight and the guy who hosted it took all their powers
>>83861098
me too, anon
>>83861312
and Robin went full Batman on him in the end too if I remember right.
Technically a different character but I've always thought Toxin a better take on the whole symbiote idea compared to Venom or Carnage
>>83861108
mary sue has lost all meaning, hasnt it?
whos self insert is he?
>>83861098
>>83861326
Have you guys ever read Jack Cole Plastic Man? Literally GOAT- especially Golden Age
>>83861486
But this Plas is fun and quirky, like this stories.
>>83861527
>this
his
>>83861527
Don't get me wrong, I woukd love to see more Tom Kenny Plas; however, those Golden Age Plastic man comics are so absurd and amazing, I love them, as a character he is slightly different but the stories are just amazing
>>83861580
Alright, I give them a look.
>>83861408
Also this
I want more hero Carnage
>>83861283
They barely did shit with him
The original Young Justice comics did a way better job with him
>>83861466
>mary sue = self insert
I'd redirect you to tumblr but even they know more than you.
>>83858099
I really like the comic version. I loved when he would hang out at the comic shop to play tabletop games and how he'd use his powers a lot more creatively. One time he put out a fire by using his powers to change the oxygen molecules in the air into ozone.
>>83861527
I thought Plas was suppose to be a straight man and not fun and quirky, actually.
>>83857950
Isn't that a region from the Pokemon games?
>>83857826
>>83851559
Marvel Adventures Jan was fantastic.
>>83861816
That's elongated man, actually
>>83860134
Fuck you King was great
>>83861848
The gayest of all regions.
>>83861816
>>83861872
Actually he's right, when Plastic man isn't a DC character he is more inclined to be a straight man (who is creative with his powers and very funny sometimes) in a very bizarre world that doesn't quite make sense. It's like if he showed up to a party late after everyone drank the magic Kool-aid and he also had a partner in the comics, Woozy Winks
>>83861755
doesnt match up with the definition
>>83857898
Especially the character design. I was super disappointing when I first saw how Cyborg actually looked in the comics.
>>83861943
I don't know. Hoenn was pretty gay
>>83860099
they used the Soviet imagery to fuel conflict and hide the Hydra ties
>>83862132
Shit tier taste.
>>83862369
Kalos was literally based on France. But ORAS followed XY so I guess Hoenn unfortunately couldn't help but adopt some of it's faggotry.
>>83851681
Exactly, Deathstroke sounds like a what a 12 year old would name his OC to make it sound adult and cool,.
>>83857888
got to the 3rd and 4th seasons.
Losing his body was cool, but that episode just didn't work. At least his first 2 were great.
>>83859642
616 is the comic continuity. He's saying Douglas' pym is better.
>>83859242
Hydra infiltrated the Soviets just like they infiltrated SHIELD.
>>83862636
This "Hydra" sounds really good at infiltrating.
>>83862583
i know. i was saying that if 616 pym were to age, he would be like douglas. im curious as to why hes a cunt
>>83862703
They've infiltrated GCPD
>>83862758
So you're saying they're good at working their way into places their not wanted, no matter how tight the security...I have a job for this Hydra group.
>>83861935
He was great until everyone started worshiping the ground he walked on
>>83862132
>give secret six bane the coat
Oh baby.
>>83861601
This is basically Waypool.
>>83862393
Source? I mean, not that I don't like it but still.
>>83862853
Dammit Gordon their the bad guys! !ou can't hire them!
>>83863473
There's only one way to stop me, Batman, and you know what it is. So either drop your pants and make the clown scream so loud you'd wish he was a mime, or stay out of my way.
>>83863566
I heard you've been looking for a skilled infiltrator. Someone skilled at thrusting oneself into the company of enemies, inserting oneself into tense situations. By the time my target realizes they've been screwed, their trust betrayed, it's already too late.
>>83851392
EMH Pym is best Pym
>>83859437
JL/U ruined John in the comics. That was the start of his gruff military man days and he's never recovered from that.
>>83861408
And now Pat's dead and never coming back...
The whole bit with turning Anti-Venom into Symbiote Punisher was pure stupidity and managed to ruin two great characters.
>>83864094
For some, maybe. But as someone who grew up with the DCAU John was the definitive grand lantern for me. It's part of the reason I still have such a hard time getting into GL story lines with Hal as the protagonist
>>83863566
Oh for the love of god! I am not fucking the Joker and I'm definitely not fucking you!
>>83864143
Which is the problem I guess. More people watched the TV show than read previous stuff involving him so it's become the defacto personality for John rather than his older one during the 80's and 90's.
>>83857945
I'm actually fond of 616 Hank but I'm not going to disagree. I like him because he's a bit of an ass at times. Douglas!Hank is also a bit of an ass but he gave an amazing performance.
>>83861848
You're thinking of joHto I think
>>83862132
>bane
>white man
>>83864313
I like MCU Pym because whatever misadventures he had with SHIELD decades ago are firmly in the past, and relegated to the mentor role in the cinematic universe. (Plus I like Scott Lang's portrayal of Ant-Man more.)
One of the good things AoU did is have Tony be responsible for Ultron----which gave Pym and Lang even more reason to hate the Starks. It just sets up some interesting drama for future films (and obviously how Civil War played out)
>>83861755
That is literally the meaning. The term comes from a satirical piece of Star Trek fanfiction about a new ensign named Mary Sue, who was the best at everything and all the male crew members wanted to court her, etc.
It doesn't mean "character who is overpowered/someone I dislike" it means "obvious author self-insert who is fawned over in the story".
Examples of legit Mary Sues:
>Kira Yamato and Lacus Clyne from Gundam SEED/SEED DESTINY
>Literally Neil Breen in any of his films
>Coagula from Pollack's Doom Patrol
>Pretty much the lead from any preachy webcomic out there too
Although you can be an author self-insert without being a Mary Sue. Like the protagonist of Stephen King's Misery, who was an author stand-in, but was pretty much put through hell by Annie Wilkes, and therefore isn't a Mary Sue.
When she's not moping over daddy issues or going through the crisis of murdering people, she's the only salvagable part of Arrow left besides crossovers and occasionally the Lance family members.
Then again, Mia always felt a bit less important compared to Red Arrow/Arsenal.
>>83864096
And what makes Anti-Venom even more worse is that with Pat dead, Eddie eventually got the Toxin symbiote after losing the anti-venom symbiote, making the whole anti-venom shit absolutely pointless IMO.
Oh, and I'm gonna throw just a LITTLE bit of leeway for Anti-venom, because at least Anti-Venom also was able to cure people of any sort of ailment they have, so it doubles as a Punishing healing symbiote which is sorta cool.
>>83864590
The attribution of "author self-insert" is arbitrary though since most authors freely admit to putting a little bit of themselves in most of their characters, and a lot of characters could easily be hidden or indirect self-insert power fantasies. Like Sasuke Uchiha fits every standard definition of a Mary Sue and is one of the most common examples of one from all the way back in 1999. But just because his name isn't Kishimoto doesn't mean he's suddenly not a mary sue since he isn't a direct self-insert of the character.
Going by a stupid strict purist technical definition, none of your examples are right either. The Star Trek Mary Sue definition states that the definition of Mary Sue is a character within a fanfiction who fits those terms. Not just in any media.
>>83864503
Relegating Pym to an old shield agent in the 60s and 70s is fine with me but I'm literally 'not muh ultron' with Tony making ultron. Also that design was ass, the character was a decent adaptation of ultron's core principles but that face was retarded.
you take Ultron away from Pym you take away one of his core elements as far as I'm concerned. It's like having Tony Stark on hand but someone else invents the iron man suit. Honestly as fond as I am of some of the MCU stuff to come out I'm not a real fan of the team up movies. I can rewatch Iron Man, Antman Captain America and all the others but the original Avengers flick and AoU are really forgetable.
you pretty much lose me from the get go by adapting civil war into a film. Though I'd kill to see a video game based on Avengers Academy or The Avengers Initiative.
>>83864883
>It's like having Tony Stark on hand but someone else invents the iron man suit.
I was kind of upset that Tony gave Parker so much essential stuff in Civil War despite Pete being a supposed genius.
>>83863012
Not even anywhere close to it.
>>83864883
I liked how Ultron had daddy issues with Stark. It's separate from the comics, yeah, but having Ultron be an extension of Stark's personality was good.
AoU failed so hard, to me, because they wasted Spader and RDJ. If 35%+ of the movie was devoted to MCU's Ultron character arc and toxic relationship with Tony (eventually culminating in Ultron's conclusion that in order to save humanity it has to brute force it's evolution/development through cataclysms) ----the whole thing would have been better.
It would have been better if the movie was treated more like Iron Man 3.5, much like how Civil War was Avengers 2.5.
That, and cut out that wretched farm subplot. The destruction of cities on the "West African Coast">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that fucking farm
>>83864938
yeah that was kind of bogus. I love giving slott shit but at least he gave Peter a company...and now he makes peter BAD at running that company.
Dullmacher from Gotham too.
It's hard not to be better than a character who feels like it was created by an edgy teen.
>>83865061
Ultron in the comics has endless daddy issues with Pym, that's why he's a pym character. They have history. All they did with Ultron in that film was give him an awful face, transpose his relationship with Pym onto Stark and call it a day.
the performance was decent but the concept pisses me off.
>>83864368
This one so hard.
>Amazo in the comics
>generic robot with a cool gimmick, being able to replicate the JL's powers
>boring and doesn't have much personality otherwise
>Amazo in the DCAU
>becomes basically a fucking god and wonders his place in the universe
>literally no one can really stop him, decides to leave the Earth entirely iirc, probably wondering around the universe or even alternate universes and shit
>>83865065
I hate to say it, but Peter should have stayed dead. Or his counciousness should have been banished to another timeline, or something.
I liked it more when Doc Ock was Spiderman and running Parker Industries
Also, pic related
>>83865249
I gotta be honest, I agree. Not because Superior was good or anything like that, but it took the character of Spiderman into a different and unique direction.
>>83861059
Batman Beyond is my favorite bat canon for pretty much every character. Terry deserves to be a part of mainstream comic canon. If kryptonians can travel space, time, and dimensions to become important characters with their own comics, so can Terry!
>>83865110
I get that, and if Pym was introduced as some rival scientist as early as Iron Man 1 (or better yet, if Pym was a main character in Iron Man 2---instead of the forgettable mess that was Iron Man 2) I wouldn't be defending Ultron as Tony's child.
But since 3+ movies preceding AoU went out of the way portray Tony's psyche in the neurotic, egotistical, impulsive mess that it is/was-----and the names "Osborn", "Richards", and "Pym" weren't even name dropped in any corner of the MCU(including Netflix+AoS, which thrive on the lesser known story lines) ----his and Ultron's characterization makes sense. Not in the comics, but in the movies.
But I don't want to beat a dead horse, AoU was a turd with small, isolated, redeemable scenes. I'm not denying the movie as a whole left much to be desired
>>83863961
I loved Pym in EMH. It felt like the writers worked hard for each character to have set personality traits and goals that were made crystal clear to the viewers, early on. And in Pym's case, I'd say it was needed the most and done the best.
Ah dammit. That series was SO good. And that image of M.O.D.O.K. with a giant raised Kirby style hand reaching for the Cosmic Cube... God, I never laughed so hard at a cartoon before, ever. It was just as gold as Brock Samson killing a guy with just his butt cheeks.
>>83864883
Why they couldn't just do that Pym created Ultron-1 and then he shut it down because how dangerous that it will be but Hydra managed to save it. And then Stark revive Ultron
>>83865392
Too bad Terry was sacrificed to the alter of Tim in the ongoing Beyond comics. (Which is weird because Old Tim was an actual character in Return of the Joker)
NeoGotham just felt so alive, and the idea that so many characters from BTAS/JLU met a bad end or retired by the time of Beyond was pretty damn balsy on the writers part.
Also, shit like "Talia", Old Bane, and Freeze were great conclusions to those characters' story lines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoczMQEcab8
>>83861862
Yep
Better in literally every way.
I rather like JL/JLU Batman. Still distant but willing to open up but not a complete brooding emo kid like you see him as so much.
>>83861848
thats because it´s prononced "yoto", this guys name was "Joto"
>>83862472
Especially when you remember that his full name is Deathstroke the Terminator and they only really dropped the second part because the Arnie movies were too big.
>>83851392And the Green Goblin too.
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>>83864590
A Mary sue is a character that's overly proficient and socially flawless, ya dope. Self-insertion is irrelevant.
>>83868692
op self inserts was its initial meaning. its been altered over time but that is what it meant. even then, people use it to mean popular chatacter that they dont like
>>83851578
>We can't use Deathstroke. That name is not appropriate for kids.
>Fine. Who's our next villain?
>Brother Blood.
>>83865249
nah Spock was one of the blandest, stupidest things to happen to peter in a long time. He was doing just fine after civil war but OMD destroyed multiple decades of character development. The company running and shit is nice but you didn't need Superior for that you just needed a writer who was willing to let peter make some fucking money.
Honestly the 'new and interesting direction' wore out it's welcome 3 or so issues in. All slott does is take stories that are worth 2 or 6 issues and then stretch them out till you're sick of them.
>>83865456
I don't want to admit it because I hate the very idea of Ultron being Tony's production but that was decently done in the movie, everything else not so much.
either way I hope it's a plot that gets dropped and forgotten. PRobably will be.
Rather see Kang on the big screen anyway.
Specifically their relationship. I think it's a lot better than it was introduced in the comics. I wish they had more episodes to flesh it out.
>>83865558
what makes you think the people they had Editing and Writing that book even watched Beyond? Honestly I find the whole thing baffling. Here we have terry in his own ongoing, a book designed to bring in fans of the cartoon. Oh I know lets kill off the Bat Man that people came here to see and replace him with Tim DRake in a convoluted and poorly conieved time travel plot. Surely no one will get disgusted and drop the book?
>>83868850
she was the worst thing about that season tho
>>83868882
Nah, I think Karen was easily the worst part of the season.
If they had fleshed out their flashbacks and were less break up-make up about their relationship, and had Daredevil's conflict with killing kept mostly with Punisher and instead focused on finally finding someone he can relate to with Elektra it would have been better. I thought her actress was great though and they had enough chemistry to pull it off.
>>83868816
McCoy plz go
How did we get this far without this being posted yet?
>>83868850
Elektra yea she was leagues better than her comic counterpart, but Daredevil has too many good incarnations.
>>83864094
I always though John in the comics was a pussy-ass bitch.
This is one of the single most important adaptions, seeing how Blade hasn't a single good comic.
>>83861042
You know sometimes I actually forget Slade is his given name, not his last name.
>>83864368
OH GOD YES.
>>83869322
OH DAMN!
>>83868816
Spock not working out was more due to the writer than the character.
I mean obviously it was never going to be permanent, but it had so much more potential, and literally every appearance by other writers was better than Slott's awful bullshit. If someone competent had written Spock instead of Slott, I wouldn't have minded if he stuck around a lot longer, one way or another.
>>83866626
Lavender Witch
Still, better than the comics
>>83868816
Spock was fucking great in every writers hand but Slotts.
>>83869437
I enjoyed the Superior Spiderman's first few issues.
>>83866626
>>83869417
Seriously, who decided this was a good design?
>>83857342
Must have gotten it from bruce
>>83868806
Hey now be fair blood is life force not always a negative thing
Has there ever been a Starfire worse then red hood and the outlaws slutfire
>>83862132
He was a good character but a shitty bane
Really, I just love it when R Lee Ermey shows he has range beyond "angry army guy"
>>83863473
I'm sure I remember a time bats hired a villan for intel
>>83869662
Tumblr types might throw a fit if they made her white, but there is always room for compromise.
>>83869437
But wasn't most of the reason for because they made Spock even more of a gigantic joke of a character who could never carry his own series? They just turned up the being an unrepentant asshole no one could stand factor. And legitimately because he's a terrible person, not because of the usual "Peter can't keep his fucking mouth shut" reasons. They also just had everyone shit on him, and the punchline was basically "hah, Spock trying to be Spider-Man is a terrible idea and he's a shitty person everyone makes fun of." They were fun to read, yeah, but I could never see the enjoyable Spock we got leading any sort of series of something like Superior Foes.
Not really got material for the lead Spider-Man series.
>>83869747
>any sort of series of something like Superior Foes
Any sort of series besides something like Superior Foes, I mean.
>>83869322
Well your not wrong with 2 of them compared to current comics
>>83869732
That was a pretty good adaption but pretty much the only wildcat I have read was his few pages in crisis on infinite earths so I don't really know if he's better then comics
>>83857852
He's coming back, anon.
Believe it.
I'm shocked nobody has posted him yet. Personally I think brave and the bold had the best incarnation of everybody but nobody can deny this for Aquaman
>>83859636
>Generic boogeyman with no backstory or motivations other than "rule teh worldz"
>Best Deathstroke
Yeah nah you're a faggot
>>83869782
I will say it did an incredible job of bridging the gap between serious and silly aquaman.
>>83862369
Wallace and Juan were pretty fabulous to be honest
>>83868816
>All slott does is take stories that are worth 2 or 6 issues and then stretch them out till you're sick of them
He's a shit writer who spends too long on a given idea - so we get even more of his shit writing.
Literally every Spider-Man megacrossover, from Spider-Island to Superior Spider-Man to Spider-Verse to whatever, all of them have leapt up in quality when another writer held the Spider-reigns.
When Kaine crossed over with Spider-Man, the difference in quality was visible from one issue to the next. It was horrifying.
Also, these guys. Granted, not even most people on /co/ know there was a comic book first...
>>83869770
In the comics, he's mostly just a gruff asshole with a heart of gold and sometimes does morally questionable things when he thinks nobody's looking
>>83858987
"Joto" only exists in your shithole.
>>83851578
Network censors, man. Sucks, but there it is.
>>83868806
To be fair, he didn't show up until season 3
>>83869824
Marvel still owns the Comic rights
altough it would be useless to have them in 616 because Sword exists
>>83858099
Even Jimmy?
>>83861935
He was probably one of the weakest and most generic Red in a while.
>>83869790
>he's a mercenary with one SWORD and one GUN
>>83860134
>>83861108
>>83862884
>>83871503
I'm sorry but I'm going to have to revoke all of your opinion cards right now.
>>83871612
>>83872252
I love the Princess and the Frog!
>>83860270
>Alex Hirsch subtly asks Dan Harmon for a job
>>83869782
If nothing else, I enjoy the fact that they tried to fix Aquaman by writing him like Marvel's Hercules instead of Namor for once.
"Mostly deserved overfriendly braggart" is a good characterization.
>>83857915
>no one true gorilla love
Objectively wrong
>>83873575
Only slightly since both comic version and the show counterpart are shit characters.
>>83871603
>and one EYE
Comics Macendale in the comics is one of the worst characters to ever don the mantle of a Goblin-related character.
>>83873808
>Comics Macendale in the comics
Forgive me, I'm a tired sleepless fuck.
>>83862756
He's a wifebeating maniac who made several robots intent on destroying the world, including Ultron, and the only asshole comparable to him in terms of bad decisions is Tony Stark.
>>83874247
And they did in fact give a chunk of his worse ideas to Tony in the MCU (mainly Ultron) and that's why Douglas Pym is merely a near-paranoid control freak on bad terms with his family instead of something worse
>>83873832
I forgive you
>>83874303
Stark is even fucking worse in the MCU than in the comics, to be honest. You can at least hand-wave some of his dumber decisions by saying he was just drunk or some such, and he even almost had a fucking point in Civil War because everyone was fucking up ar ound that time.
But in the MCU, most of the bad shit that happens is his fault and his only answer is to blame everyone else.
>>83869187
Because that is questionable.
>>83873217
>>83851568
agreed
deathstroke sounds incredibly tryhard
slade actually sounds sinister and threatening
>>83861098
oh boy this is a tough one
cartoon plastic man is great but comic plastic man is great too in the right person's hands
>>83862132
That's a big opinion.
>>83862291
On that matter I liked Friend or Foe Mysterio.
He was an international criminal mastermind powerful enough to be a thorn in Nick Fury's and S.H.I.E.L.D' side. He kidnapped and brainwashed several Spider-Man villains, led a huge army of hard-light holograms or whatever those things were and apparently was rich enough to live in a big, well-stuffed mansion in Nepal.
He wasn't much of a character because that's a kid game, but I appreciate the effort on making him more of a threat.
>>83857898
LET'S HIT THOSE SHOWERS
>>83862267
Same
>>83865249
I liked his shortstack gf
how did peter deal with her after he got his body back?
>>83878805
I believe she got promptly friendzoned ater Silk showed up
>>83868927
Karen's and Foggy's subplots were great. I honestly enjoyed them more than Elektra and Daredevil. Elektra just kind of consumed the whole plot in the end, overshadowing Frank, Foggy, and Karen's plots
>>83851578
There were two characters who exclusively spoke Spanish. Having a Joto at the same time would be a problem.
>>83881353
They never met.
>>83881489
If only Hulk told him to pay his taxes.
