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>guy with ice powers
>guy with fire powers
>they fight
>stalemate
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>>83734651
How should it go then
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>>83734651
Is Lisa asking for a sperm sample?
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>>83734651

>guy with red powers
>guy with green powers
>fight
>powers collide for no reason
>red powers shouldn't even be red as usually colourless
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>>83734651
>guy with ice powers
>guy with fire powers
>they fight
>ice guy doesn't win every time because if the fire guy doesn't have universe killing heat death tier levels of brokenness (in which case it'd be impractical to even attempt to fight him), the fire guy still has to deal with the humidity from all the ice he's melting that can be turned back into ice and slowly the environment is turning into a huge soupy watery mess
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>>83734736
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>>83734651
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>>83734651
>MC goes to space
>gets thrown into fighting arena
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>MC gets smart
>becomes asshole
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>>83734651
When has that happened though?
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>>83734978
it happened in gotham a few weeks back. dr strange got in the middle of it, but was unharmed because they cancelled each other out
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>>83734978
Flash, when Cold and Heatwave's guns shot each other.
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>>83734792
Anon, go in a meat locker and try to defrost stuff with a match.
Ice CAN win.
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>>83735123
I can't go into a meat locker because I'm scared the door will lock behind me and I'll die
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>>83734651
>blue M&Ms
>red M&Ms
>they all wind up the same colour in the end
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>guy has a power that does something really dumb
>through fruit loops and other word meanings somehow is the best power to have
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>>83735164

Yeah they end up white.
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>>83735153
Most meat lockers can be opened from inside.
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>>83734696
what
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>>83735207
Yeah but it could snap off and then I'd die a slow death. I've given this a lot of thought
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>>83735207

>most
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>>83735207
>most
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>>83734921
>MC gets smart
>rich
>literally any sort of power
>instant asshole

"...if you want to test a man's character, give him power." -Abraham Lincoln


Well guess what. MainCharacters and their friends are inherently total asshole.

The only exception I can think of is that one episode of Rugrats where Chaz(?) lost all his money through bad investments, and he just was a swell guy in any case, poor or not.
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>>83735224

Why is red power red when every other time red power is used it has no colour?
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>>83735251
The coolers in the last place I worked had a little plunger thing you'd press to open them from the inside rather than a handle to pull so they won't break from the cold.
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>>83735207
Why wouldn't they in the first place? Are they afraid a piece of cow meat is going to unhook itself and just slink outside, like some giant zombie steak?
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>defuse bomb
>0:01
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>>83734651
>their mother intervenes
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>>83735251
The ones we had in high school just twisted.
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>>83735324
>>83735434
Well, the walk-in freezer at the last place I worked either had no such safety feature or it was broken, and trapped somebody for two hours...
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>>83735304
Example?
Not sure what you mean.
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>sympathetic villain had a shit life but was a good guy
>not a dick who became a massive dick when bestowed with power

more relevant nowadays with SJW shows
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>>83735421
So tired of that one.
Equally tired of spoofs and camera winks about it.
Just defuse the bomb and move on with the plot.
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>>83734921
adventure time had an episode where the MC becomes smart and inevitably insane but ultimately it was all a plan for him to stop the disaster he creates and look like a hero.
was a pretty good one.
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>>83735207
Are you saying that Regular Show episode lied to me?
My whole life is a lie.
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>>83735927
Not /co/ but Galaxy Quest had a funny gag about it
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>>83736017
that movie was based
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>>83736287
>215x90
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>>83734651
>they have an intense fight that goes on for ten days straight
>eventually one does overpower the other and even mutilates him
>island they fought on turns into a half-frozen, half-molten wasteland
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>>83734651
That didn't happened in One Piece.
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>bad guy as ability to absorb attacks
>everybody is scratching their heads trying to figure out how to beat him
>hotheaded character says something along the lines "You want my energy? You can have it!"
>he gives the bad guy so much energy he overloads and explodes
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>>83737361
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>>83737361
They did say absorb, not nullify. That energy gotta go somewhere.
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>>83737581
Yes, but it's such a cliche, predictable outcome.
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>>83737361
>>83737581
>>83737667
>Siege of Starro part 2
>revived Starro just eats all the energy
It was a good episode.
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>fire villain and ice villain begin fighting
>ends up her ice power are caused by heat absorption so his attacks keep making her attacks stronger
>her heat absorption is pleasurable to her
>they end up dating
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ice wins
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>>83737790
I would masturbate to that!
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>>83737790
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>>83734684
The fire user is using more energy than the ice user. Remember, temperature is just another way to say how much energy something has. There for the ice user should win a majority of the time as ice practically takes zero energy to produce.
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>>83734684

Like this
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>>83734651
ICE TO MEET YOU!
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All these icefags in this thread.
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>>83735153
>>83735207
Reminder that Heat Wave got locked in a meat locker and it turned him into a neurotic weirdo obsessed with heat. (That's the original version. In the Johns version he was already obsessed with fire and he killed the kid who locked him in the freezer.)
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>>83737581
>Not using the energy absorbed from other people's attacks to amp up own attacks and prevent build up over load
>Not throwing an energy absorber into a box and letting Second Law of Thermodynamics do it's job.
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>>83735304
That doesn't make any fucking sense. If a power or whatever is red, then it's going to be fucking red. If it were colorless, how would you know that it was red?
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>>83735324
Place I work in now has the exact same device. Except the spring which, I guess, allows the plunger to pop out and unlock the door broke, because it malfunctioned. For two weeks there was a good chance the only way out of that thing was to repeatedly slam my shoulder against the door. Think the longest I got stuck was 7 minutes.
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>>83739657
Anon, ice is just water without energy.
To produce it, the character would have to compress and remove the energy from the water vapor in the air. They would be a void. A spout which would absorb energy.
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>>83739657
That's why refrigerators don't need power to work right? Fuck people not learning about thermodynamics in school!
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>One of them just pulls out a gun and shoots them
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>>83739753
This guy got the most logic solution. Just isolate the energy absorber. Giving him more energy shouldn't be a good strategy if normally he can release large amounts of energy easily.
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>>83737361
Every battle in that arc until vegeta's sacrifice was so lame.
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>>83735569
Not the same anon, but I think I get what they tried to say

Sometimes, when two characters fight with magic/energy blasts/whatever, the energy will be color coded so we can tell who the attack belongs to or so the hero and villain can have complimentary/contrasting.whatever attack colors, even if the attack was used previously and didn't have a color to it, or was a different color.
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>>83734651
Fire powers are lame. Anybody can make shit hotter with a bit of effort. Guys with ice powers are basically giving entropy the middle finger.
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>>83734651
>Guy with ice powers
>Develops new powers
>Is now guy with fire powers
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>>83740601
both of you are dumb
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>>83740427
They were lame because everyone else in the universe had no idea how outclassed they were by these random fucks just chilling on some shitty planet, no one had any idea how powerful the remaining Saiyans were that's why Supreme Kai went from smug prick to please help me Gohan in like 2 episodes
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>>83734651
>guy with ice powers
>guy with fire powers
>they fuse into the ultimate fighter
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>>83735421
>defuses bomb
>can't defuse it
>shrinks it down to the size of a molecule


dammit Hank
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>>83739677
>"absolute zero field"
That's clinically retarded, though.
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>>83741928
So is a gun that generates existential cold without entropy.

It's a comic. Elemental heroes have elemental powers. Deal with it.
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>>83741358
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>>83734651
meh
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>>83734651
>guy with cold powers freezes the laser emitters in a security system
>this doesn't trigger the alarm, even though the beams are clearly broken by external means
>/co/ nerd rages about the freezing part more than this obvious design flaw in the alarm circuitry
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>>83739603
>>83739640
It's an actual thing that happened in Green Lantern between Effigy and the second Killer Frost.
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>>83737241
Yeah it did. Ace fought Kuzan (or rather briefly clashed) in Marineford and their attacks canceled each other out.

Kuzan lost to Sakazuki, the magma guy.
Magma beats ice, fire stalemates ice, Magma beats fire. Magma is best.
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>>83734651
It all depends on how the ice and fire powers work but a stalemate is a very possible scenario in most cases if the one in apparent disadvantage knows really well how to use his powers
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>>83734651
>character with fire powers fuses with a character with ice powers
>they have electric powers
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>>83743992
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_effect
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>>83735204
no? brown? because of poo? god.
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>>83741958
So when the universe runs out of entropy, that means everything will get cold?
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>>83745792
yes. That's why they call it heat death.
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>Only one girl on the team
>She's the down to Earth no fun one
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>>83739657
Ice power, the power to create ice, requires the power to create water (i.e. matter) from nothing. That takes ridiculous amounts of energy.
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>>83740908
that was great though. The Saiyan bantz was hilarious. Goku and Vegeta didn't even give a damn about Dabura.
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>villain and hero of opposite sexes end up isolated in a place they can't get out of
>nobody knows where they are, how they disappeared, etc.
>many years later somebody finds them
>they now have a large family because there wasn't much to do out there
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>>83735207
>most
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>>83746160
>because there wasn't much to do out there
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>>83741958
Why didn't the air freeze?
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>>83739657
Actually it takes much more energy to produce ice than it does to produce fire.

It takes more energy to make things orderly than it does to make them disorderly, this is basic thermodynamics, it's the second flaw of thermodynamics

Look it up.
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>>83734651
>Villain is immortal but no other powers
>Hero goes for kill shot
>Oh no, it didn't work! We can't beat him! Run!
>No one thinks to just tie him up or something.

Yes, I am talking about live action Vandal Savage and how retarded everyone acts when they're around him. The man has a knife and can't die. He shouldn't be that difficult to deal with.
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>>83746160
provide examples please
I need them um, for science.
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>>83735058
I sure am glad I stopped watching that shit.
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>>83747053
To be fair, it does take more energy, but (even ignoring that most of the times ice powers are just bullshit magic) when the ice elemental creates an ice block and throws it at the fire elemental, supposing he doesn't have control over considerable mass like lava and only uses fire as if shooting burning gas or anything of the sort; he'd require much more energy to repel the ice block, as most of the thermal energy is inevitably wasted in the surroundings and the atmosphere itself, not to mention that the melted water could still be a threat to him, so he actually has to transfer more heat to the block to melt and evaporate it and what the ice wizard took away from it (I'm implying the wizard obtained the waterfront he atmosphere by pressure rather than heat alone).
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>>83734867
do you not like Planet Hulk?
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>>83748239
>Villain is immortal
>Gets thrown into space
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>>83746978
IT'S COLD GUN. NOT A FREEZE GUN
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>>83734651
>guy with fire powers
>girl with ice powers
>they fight
>girl wins
>le gurls rule le world
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>>83745878
Unless you would 100% fuck her, then it's cool.

Pic related.
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>>83748239
Heroes did this pretty well, one guy who was basically immortal got buried alive for a few hundred years.
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>>83748857
Why is Reddit all over /co/ today
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>>83748710
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>strongest hero and strongest villain duking it out
>strongest hero has definitive advantage
>strongest villain takes a shot at the hero's loved ones
>strongest hero has to take the bullet

just get out of the way you fucks
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>>83749105
Cars vs Dio (with his stand)
who wins?
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>>83749327
Gonna have to say DIO. Just kill him in the stopped time and his systems won't be able to respond.
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>>83749327
Dio is too dead to stand. Besides, there are no streets near his grave for cars to drive over.
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>Family member of protagonist is taken
>Protagonist is told it's pointless to go after them
>Does it anyway
>Protagonist is too late to save them
>Becomes angry and goes on a rampage
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>>83749105
not a villain but...
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>>83743789
>magma beats fire

more like magma punches through fire with his fist
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>>83749053
summer.
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>>83734651
>guy with ice powers
>guy with fire powers
>they fight
>fire guy beats the shit out of ice guy
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>>83749389
Lol, Kars is inmortal retard, also he have the strongest Hamon, he just have to take some The world's hits and DIO is fucked
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>>83750565
kars literally eats vampires for breakfast lol
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>guy with fire powers
>hot head
>guy with ice powers
>cool and collected
I want someone with ice powers that's a fucking maniac and I want the guy with fire powers to be calm.
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>>83749512
Too soon
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>>83734684
ends in sex
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>>83751812
it is never too soon.
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>>83748972
But she's balanced out by the fun weird girl.
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>>83745792
> Runs out of entropy
Uh. Entropy only ever goes UP.
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>>83734651
>guy with ice powers
>guy with fire powers
>best swimmer wins
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>>83748739
Why didn't the air cold?
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>>83746160
when did something like this happened?
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>>83752756
Because the cold gun magic only works on hydrogen, which the atmosphere doesn't have much of but the human body has in excess.
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>>83741358
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>guy with fire powers
>violent idiot that does nothing in the story
>guy with ice powers
>barely functioning retard until the plot needs ice for something
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>>83737241
>>83734651
And in X-men Iceman beats pyroman

get your facts straight op
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>>83746160
Does anyone have that doujin where Not-Kamen rider marries the villainess and finds her toy collection?
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>fire guy
>"If you can't take the heat.."/'Let's heat things up"/"Didn't your parents teach you not to play with fire?" etc.
>Ice guy
>"Chill out"/"Ice to see you"/Something about the weather/Something about dinosaurs etc.
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>>83753629
what's the fucking point of having fire/ice powers if you don't get to make stupid puns
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>>83753629
>guy with fire powers
>"Time for the SHOCKing conclusion!"
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>>83739657
>>83739850
ahahah
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>>83750565
Don't be a smug faggot. Kars can't see The World, and it's faster than light. If DIO stops time and blows off his head, then what the fuck is he gonna do? He can't adapt to whatever happens in stopped time.
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>>83745945
>He's Dabura! The King of Evil!
>You mean like Piccolo used to be?
>No, he's way more powerful! He's the Master of Hell!
>Oh you mean like King Yemma?
>NO! HE'S BASICALLY THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN SATAN!
>Ehh, he doesn't look that tough. Cell was worse.
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Idiotic Writers
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Ice Guy
>freezes stuff
>manifests ice objects
>slides around

Fire Guy
>burns stuff
>shoots fireballs
>flies around

Me
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Ice Guy
>absorbs energy
>triggers entropy
>opposite of fire guy

Fire Guy
>creates energy
>accelerates particles
>shoots lasers
>shoots radioactive death rays
>speeds up objects
>create extremely hot pockets of air
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>>83735123
>Comparing an iceberg to a tiny match
How about I go into the meat locker with a flame thrower?
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>>83735165
>Character with shit tier power
>Actually makes it useful through rigorous training and skill
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>>83753565
There's one I read years ago where a totally not-Red Sentai hero and the daughter of the alien general were fucking. They'd go out on dates and fuck in the park or something and one of their friends cwould come by and they had to get changed super quick and pretend they were fighting the whole time. And then when they decided to have angry breakup sex she rifled through his house looking for stuff to use against his team and she found a ntebook he wrote where he planned to marry he and have at least five kids and her pupils went all heart shaped and then she ran away with him and blew up her father.

Kind of like Outlanders.
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>>83734684
I have no clue. I can't into thermodynamics.
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>>83754613
That sounds great, I want to find that one too.
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>>83734736
>fire guy must have heat death level power

You realize heat death means a complete loss of heat, right? Not "so hot everything dies", right?
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>>83734651
>>83734684
It really should depend on whoever is more skilled.

Just because someone has fire powers doesn't mean it should be a counter to ice. If the fire guy can only equal a lighter and the ice guy can move glaciers then who cares which element is stronger.

Jeez didn't the episode of Pokemon where Ash tries to fight a Charizard with a Squirtle teach you anything.
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>>83754860
Incorrect. Heat death means the universe has reached a theoretical state where the last remaining matter has decayed and all sources of energy have been reduced into large band infrared radiation. It is a form of perfect max entropy.

However such a thing may be truly impossible, as matter has a way of spontaneously forming even in a "true" vacuum. The endgame for the universe is pretty messy business.
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>>83735058
>Gotham
>Dr Strange
>not Hugo Strange
Kys fag
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>>83754599
Banana manipulation man
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>>83753629
ICE TO SEE YOU.
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>>83737137
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>>83741928
>That's clinically retarded, though.

Oh no, something absolutely fuck retarded is happening in comics. I better run a million times faster than light and enter the speed force so I can travel back in time and stop this from being written
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>>83734696
red and green are opposites in the color palette. The primary color's opposite is always the combination of the two other primary colors.
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>>83753629
To be fair, Cold scene in the bar with Foreigner in the background was fucking perfect.
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>>83751575
Killer Frost is kind of a maniac. At least in the Justice League cartoons.
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>guy with ice powers
>guy with fire powers
>they fight
>guy with fire powers is on the verge of winning
>guy with ice powers wins by turning his body to ice at the last minute and headbutting the guy with fire powers
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>>83739657
>"I failed high school chemistry": the post
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>>83758936
That was the only good part of that movie.
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>>83745895
Fire power would require the power to create fuel from nothing, it would take even more energy is it needs to create heavier elements.
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>Fire prince
>Ice princess
>both are hot headed

Bonus: Ice planet fauna is insectoid-based, even though bugs usually do poorly in cold
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>>83759766
forgot pic
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>>83759798
yknow i was really excited during the minute your post didn't have an image
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>>83759874
why would the image change anyrthing?
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>>83759897
It's an interesting idea ruined by a shit image.
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>Hero is really strong
>Villain is really strong
>hero and villain are basically just good and evil versions of each other in terms of powers
>final battle
>both just say "fuck this" to using their fancy powers and focus 100% of everything into just punching so hard that they break each other's bones on impact
>keep punching so long they lose their ability to use their powers
>keep punching now as normal people
>hero defeats villain as a human, not a superhero
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>>83759927
what's shitty about it?
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>>83760101
are you blind
like lets put aside the fact that i was hoping for some waifubait the fire princess is uncanny valley at best and the ice princess is literally going to rape me in my nightmares
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>>83759950
The way you describe it, that actually sounds cool.

I guess that means that the Arrow season finale was closer to being good than I thought.
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>>83760215
the fire one is a prince
you were warned the ice one would be insectoid
here's some waifus if you're so limited minded
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>>83760442

Honestly I think they did that with Kuuga purely because they wanted to do something different from a big finale, because Kuuga's thing was all about being different from how Kamen Rider normally was. That and it was way cheaper than having to spend special effects budget.

Still, it was cool to see them punch each other so hard they were putting holes in each other's suits
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>>83760547
oopsididitagain.mp3
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>>83760547
>implying insects can't be hot
who hurt you
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>>83760593
I never said they couldn't, I'm just reminding that person that it was a possibility
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>>83759950

Reminds me of the final fight in naruto: ninja storm 4
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>>83759950
Reminds me of MGS4, which despite people say, is actually amazing.

The entire series lead up to two old men fighting each other for reasons that don't even matter anymore.
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>>83758936
Fire have low specific heat. A guy with a flamethrower sure is more dangerous than a guy with a big ice brick but the flamethrower can't protect him from a brick going in his direction.
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>>83734651
> guy with fire powers
> guy with extinguisher powers
> they fight
> stalemate
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>>83761267
Maybe if he had napalm being sprayed at 4000 PSI
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>>83761962
Pressure doesn't mean a thing with a low amount of mass per second.
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>>83761658
this isnt making any sense. is the guy the hero or the villain? why would anyone have extinguisher powers and then become a villain?
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>>83762145
To extinguish the lives of those who would oppose them.
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>>83735207
>most
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>>83734651
More like
>Guy with (frozen)water powers
>Guy with fire powers
>They fight

A real stalemate would be
>Guy with endothermic powers
>Guy with exothermic powers
>They fight
Cold guy probably ends up boiling his own brain, while the heat guy just faints from overexertion. No stalemate.

But that's based on the assumption that the cold guy absorbs the energy into his own body, instead of say, nullifying it somehow, or channeling it elsewhere.


>Guy with cold powers prefers colder climates
>because his powers actually raise his body temperature and he'd be uncomfortable or ill in warmer places.
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>>83762131
Okay so I calculated the mass of a 0.5 meter cube (a decent block) at 114.6 kg of 252.6 lb
The same volume of napalm would weigh about 112.5 kg or 248.0 lb
Surprisingly similar masses.
If you just threw a big blob of napalm at a flying block of ice, they would almost cancel each other out. Certainly enough to protect the target of the ice villain.
But since the napalm is being squirted it would all depend on the distance between targets, velocity of the block, and flow rate of the napalm.
Napalm might at least slow the ice down enough to miss the target, but then, "oh shit there's burning napalm all over the ground!"
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>>83754479
You seem like an idiotic writer with a vested interest in physics.
Which good for you but that doesn't make a good story.
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>>83741358
never thought i'd see this game outside of hk
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>>83754479
>Tripfagging
>Idiotic Writers
>Me
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>>83745895
Most ice guys don't create water from nothing, they suck moisture out of the air.
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>>83764390
Never thought I'd see this on 4Chan.

Holy crap lf2 is old; I played this as a kid.
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>>83734792
fire doesn't even have mass. He will just be hit by the ice/water
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>>83751575
Adventure time.
Ice King is hothead and Flame King is usally quite cool and collected and his daughter get's more cool and collected once she takes over king role.
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>>83754479
Why not combine it?
Guy can store all heat/energy from thing and concentrate it in way he want, he need to absorb energy. He can do just take little bit or take it from something really hot or he can take much more freezing it even in absolute zero.
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>>83734651
>ice character
>Spawns water out of thin air to freeze it
>Can't use nitrogen
>can't freeze any other liquid unless it has water in it
wasted potential
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>>83737361
>adapt to this
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>>83762145
If you had a mutant power to stop all oxygen reactions in a controlled area, that would be very deadly.
But it looks like that guy just has a pair of regular fire extinguishers tied to his arms, so I don't know.
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>>83748383
Not /co/ related but Brutal Legend
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