I missed the last thread, but what was your opinion on Volume 10?
>>83716277
everyone loves it. i think theres some seriously excellent tracks but overall its maybe a bit too... epic to be my absolute favourite. lots of electric guitars and strings and long runtimes. toby's presence is missed. but this is probably nitpicking. its pretty fucking good.
>>83716277
10/10
every single song is great
I'm listening to the album again for the second time, the creata choir gives me the chills
Great album.
Nice way to end things.
>all these amazing song will never get the chance to be in a flash
Living is suffering
I keep missing the rare Waterworks discussion in these Homestuck threads.
So how about some PDR instead?
Its the last day of the design contest so I decided to scrolls trough them one last time and jesus christ these submissions are giving me cancer
(pic not related in any way)
>>83716506
that's still the best homestuck comic that's ever been made
>>83716277
10/10
Second best album after volume 8
>>83716499
Waterworks discussion?
>>83716506
>tfw theres 2-3 really fucking good LE designs but none of them are probably going to fucking win
>tfw there will never be any good LE merch
>>83716277
Last thread ran for 1152 posts. Things were pretty crazy.
But yeah, amazing album to end off on.
>>83716565
enjoy your davekat shirt, cuck.
There'd better be an announcement during the 4PM stream
>>83716595
kill me
>>83716596
4PM stream?
>>83716596
what are these streams everyone is talking about?
>>83716277
pretty good album
prob my favorite
>>83716565
tfw no real life cairo overcoat with working multicoloured hem. tfw no permanent green skin dye. tfw no flashing pool balls to squeeze into my eye sockets to replace the worthless human eyes ill happily cut out
>>83716557
Sometimes Waterworks gets a brief talk for a few posts.Yes? Hello? I fucking love Waterworks as much as you guys love Homestuck.
the volume 10 album was good, but not the best, it suffered the same thing the genesis frog album where some songs try too hard to be epic with orchestral music
>>83716736
so you despise it and everything its put you through?
>>83716499
i stopped reading it when DivingSuitGuy turn out to be a time-travelling alien
or something like that
>>83716722
>>83716625
>>83716628
The music team is doing a stream at 4PM EST where they do live commentary over the album.
>>83716766
that's awesome, where do I look to get on that stream?
>>83716277
I'm glad DirkDave is canon now.
>>83716766
DAMNIT there's the E3 at that time
>>83716780
oh shit karkat
>>83716769
There are details over on reddit somewhere, but I'm sure someone will post the link here when it starts.
>I have one more exciting announcement to make!
*puts gun in mouth*
>>83716804
Eh, it's just the EA conference.
>>83716780
BROS
DONT
>>83716824
>live action video of AH going into the woods
>he arrives at a stump with a harpoon stuck in it
v>>83716830
I know but I have friends over at that time, I hope I can catch a recording of the stream because I really want to hear the commentary
Has Hussie just forgotten about the map?
>>83716831
Yeah yeah, okay but it's cute that they're bondingand I hope people write more fic
>>83716860
http://rafe.name/niklink/homestuck-map
this one is better than the original map in nearly every way anyway
>>83716736
It's a webcomic?
>>83716780
Me as Karkat.
I haven't even listened to the album and I probably never will because I've listened to none of the non-comic music.
>>83716804
Maybe he's announcing it at E3... he is in California after all
DUN DUN DUN
>>83716909
>Only hearing the first two minutes of Gold Pilot
>>83716919
I don't know what that is.
I don't remember what any of this is.
I'm just so tired.
>>83716927
It's the song in that really cool flash that gets cut short by glitch bullshit.
>>83716927
*puts you down*
ssssh anon it's gonna be okay
>>83716939
no i have to see the E P I L O G E
also does anyone have that image of ms. paint comforting hsg who is freaking about how people are WRONG
Anybody have a MEGA for [S] Collide and Act 7?
I listened to the cytube stream of the new album, I needed a half-hour of crying and then put myself to bed. I got five hours sleep -- not enough time for me to stop feeling oogie about such good music.
And it looks like some of you fags didn't get any sleep at all. How is your shit not wrecked?
Did that anon post Vrisky Business?
Nice plagiarism you have there.
http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/castle
https://youtu.be/di18hTFTwIw
>>83717034
Yes. It's just Vriska bitching about Terezi and Spidermom. Then she falls unconcious and Equius grabs her and they go to the rape dungeon.
>>83717074
That was my first thought when listening to that song.
Glad I'm not the only one.
>>83717009
>kanaya
>blandly practical pjs
this...this feels wrong.
Now that Volume 10's out, what's your favorite song of all of Homestuck?mine will always be Savior of the Waking World
>>83717173
sburban jungle obviously
>>83717173Upward Movement (Dave Owns)
listening to it makes me cry from nostalgia
The parts near the beginning on Renewed Return with the vocals sound extremely familiar to an E.S. Posthumous song I've heard, I'll have to go back and check but it's uncanny.
>>83717173
either overture, oppa toby style or umbral ultimatum. i cant really decide between them.
>>83717214
>overture
>Not ruined by act 7
>that fic where feet and lube...
Will Hussie be making a news post today?
>>83717254
Land of Feet and Lube
>>83717246
its too fucking good though. much too fucking good. if act 7 was just a black screen with overture playing, it would have been hailed as a masterpiece.
Anyone got a totally illegal download link for Vol 10 yet???
>>83717255
I prefer mine
PEACHY
>>83717285
Land of Beat and 'tude
>>83717146
is this better?
pls post vrisky business
>>83717313
who the fuck sleeps wearing a bra? that's like the first thing that comes off when you're going to bed.
>>83717320
theres no sleeping about to happen on that bed
>>83717295https://mega[dot]nz/#F!DlRQ0BJY!2MHUEyMj1WnI6ka1PHHeQg
>>83716808
I always had this idea that post-Act 7 Dirk & Dave would move in together and hang out all the time while Karkat sulked in the corner, and now it's actually canon. God bless.
>>83717316
No, the leaker was a davekat shipper. It's tainted.
>>83717343
ive always loved you even since the hsg days
>>83716506
Um can you fuck off?
>>83717173
Either Doctor, Heir Of Grief orGuardian V2
No one is talking about John "Panic! At the gay disco" Egbert's latest rampage in Florida?
>>83717357
y-you too
>>83717320
I have a many pictuers of Kanaya in fancy clothes, but so few of her in bedclothes.
Def think she's not the type to sleep nude, even in her recuperoon.
>>83717388
<3
do you happen to have the act 7 album too?
at first i was kinda eh about it but my autism is gonna make me fuckin kill myself if i dont complete the collection
>>83717425
Nope, sorry.
>>83717386
tumblr was right about john being a muslim all along
>>83717462
ah well, thanks anyway you beautiful bastard
>>83717468
tumblr was right about nothing
fuck tumblr
>that one guy who will never finish the comic of a butthurt and depressed pre-retcon Karkat witnessing (Terezi) and (Vriska) making out with each other
>>83717173
how the heckie do you choose just one song
i have a bare minimum list of my fav tracks and it's huge
Anyone got the mega for Act 7 and Collide?
>>83717173
Out of released songs on albums? Carne Vale.
>>83716997https://mega.nz/#!Z4ITkYpQ!AsDmpPcM628mWu7_Cwfs4PUP9Ao4uce6iiPkCf9SOKICollide
>>83717626Is it 1080p?
>>83717082c-can you post it or a link to an album or something?
>>83717543
i have a 150 song playlist of songs that are all S tier quality, but a few still stand out.
>>83717648I thought you wanted music.
I miss them being friends.
>>83717673
"a few" is still too many
>>83717648
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhD00jwjC42q9ffgT9YHWUxFJ8NNPLTRF
>>83717543
I'm just good at quantifying how much I like things
>>83717691
Oh I forgot that Collide is an album
>>83717696
ideally the epilogue is just mix and matched fun scenes of life in the new universe. no more drama just comedy. penis ouija type stuff involving the whole cast.
>>83717755
You don't care to know what happens to the beta kids after they get trapped in Caliborn's house juju? REALLY? You just don't care if the main characters are trapped for all eternity in some abstract lich's Soul Gem?
>>83717749
"Act 7" is an album too.
>>83717801
we already know that shit
>>83717834
Okay then tell me what happens? They get released after LE is defeated?
>>83717801
But we know what happens. They get trapped in the juju, then they get sicced on Lord English, and then they either die thanks to the black hole or escape (the latter being more probable thanks to retcon powers) and live out the rest of their lives.
>>83717844
rtc
How long do you think Homestuck Beta would've gone on if Hussie didn't decide to scrap it?
>>83717851
But that's wrong. Caliborn says that the events he shows you in Caliborn's Masterpiece are WAY FAR IN THE FUTURE, implying that they happen after Can Town.
>>83717856
Uhh, no u?
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/ACT6ACT6.php?s=6&p=009312
>>83717868
the kids retcon to the masterpiece from the universe in the future, then they get trapped, then straight after the end of act 7 they get released. done
>>83717699
hi xamag! thank you for drawing this for me last year.
>>83717856
Real True Christians?
We need more versions of this
>>83717928
Retards: Totally Confused
>>83717937
That's not a very nice thing to say Anonymous.
>>83717935
Yea I want a Davepeta version but I can't even draw basic alphanumeric symbols
>>83717935
Someone make a version with Jade and Dave.
>>83717956
maybe im just not a very nice guy
>>83717977
There already is a version with Dave and Jade. It predates this one
>>83717977
...and here it is! :D
>>83717976
yes please, jasprose crying about incest while davepeta rapes her, all text flashing.
>>83718085
Cant it be the other way around. I would love to have an assertive Jasprose
>>83718119
davepeta wouldnt have any reason to object though, because davepeta is a huge slut
>>83718119
Honestly I can see both Jasprose and Davepeta raping the hell out of Gcatavros
Does Creata have actual lyrics?
Are they listed somewhere?
I need them
>>83718168
I love how the chanting in that song makes it seem like the title screen to an mmo. It's like Sburb's theme song.
>>83718227
>>83718168
I too needs those lyrics
for when I'm humming under the shower
>>83717173
Rex Duodecim Angelus , Heir of Grief , Fuchsia Ruler and flare would defiantly be some of my favorites
REMEMBER WHEN A DOG CHASED ANOTHER DOG FOR THREE YEARS
NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL AFETCH QUEST
>>83717832
almond "milk" sucks
but what if...
>>83718285
tfw you realise the postman chased the dog
>>83718285
PM & BN: Retrieve arms from chest
>>83718307
it's like poetry
>>83718307
and I thought "retrieve arms from chest" was the worst joke in that. I was wrong.
LOOK LIKE THOSE STRIDER BOYS ARE IN TROUBLE AGAIN! AND NOT JUST BECAUSE KISSING BOYS IS ILLEGAL.
>>83718033
>>83718082
Oh shit
>>83718405
Can someone explain to me what was meant by illegal? I don't keep up to date with twitter irony culture.
Which one is this supposed to be anyway?
>>83718455
John outlawed the gays on new earth
Dykes are fine though as long as rose fucks him every week
>>83718511
Ascend, looks like. Here's the full (?) list of musical references someone made up.
http://xzazupsilon
(dot)
webs
(dot)
com/nsnd.html
>Spacetime Footjobs and "Tiny" Vriska didn't make it into the album
fuck
>>83718307
Wow I just got that
>>83718593
i thought tensei was just the guitar guy, and im not a big fan of guitar music. that song has 180d my opinion of him so fucking hard jesus christ.
What's his name again?
>>83718711
le mutant man of cucke
>>83718711
Kitkat
Rate the Parts of the comic.
Part 1: Acts 1-4
Part 2: Acts 5.1 and 5.2
Part 3: Act 6 Act 1 - Act 6 Intermission 5
Part 4: Act 6 Act 6 - Act 7
Part 2 ≥ Part 1 > Part 3 = Part 4 (caliborn) >>> Part 4 (non-caliborn)
The first two parts are basically equal, but I liked how Part 2 expanded the scope of the comic a little more. The way both parts were wrapped up with Cascade was really great. Part 3 overall wasn't as good, but I think the alpha kids were fairly interesting and the intermissions still felt like the pesterlogs of Act 5 Act 2. Part 4 kind of drops the ball with the retcon and an arc that gets completely erased. However, Caliborn's sections are still enjoyable and even though Act 7 doesn't wrap up the entire story, it brings his story full circle. I think one theme that has persisted through the entire comic, intentional or not, is no action mattering if it doesn't lead to Caliborn's creation. The kids escaping to the new universe and making the planet that Caliborn grows up on has a bit of irony, since its the only universe he can't visit as Lord English because he leaves it when he's 11.
>>83718711
Cuckjob McPants Babyman.
>>83718711
beep beep meow
I'm sad about Vol 10, but one way or another I know it's not really the end. Hiveswap's gonna happen, even if it sucks harder than Davekat and Act 7 combined.
And if Hiveswap happens, then there's yet a place for us to bitch and shitpost.
>>83718766
1>2>4>3. but honestly i liked the vast majority of it. the flaws got bigger as the comic went on but the best parts got better too. it just yo-yod harder and harder as time went on.
>>83718711
HUGE 8A8Y
>>83718711
Shinji Ikari.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS-NFRuEcBI
Thoughts?
>>83718766
Part 2 >> Part 4 > Part 1 >>> Part 3
Also when you say greater than or equal to you're saying you're not sure if it's better or not? I've never seen that symbol used in a ranking. Seems weird.
i still really want to turn john gay through really depraved acts
>>83718983
Basically, yeah. I like them both equally, but if I had to pick one over the other I'd take Part 2.
>>83718766
>since its the only universe he can't visit as Lord English
Where do you get that from?
>>83718998
Yeah, but it should be John "Being Gay Is Not Okay" Egbert, not John "Assplay is Fair Play" Egbert
>>83717173
pipeorgankind
>>83719042
I assumed that was the case because the green sun was destroyed before that universe was created. Is there another way LE could get to universe c?
>>83719084
The Green Sun is supposed to shine on all sessions
>>83718711
Dave's onahole
>>83718998
>john is strapped down and forced yo watch dirk and jake and dave and karkat go at it.
>Roxy and callie and rose and kanaya make fun of hin for being straight.
>eventually he pops a boner and in mindbroken into a gay slut
>>83719111
Then what's stopping LE from going and killing everyone in Universe C before he dies in Act 7.
>>83718766
part 1 >>(power gap)>> part 2 > part 4 >>(power gap)>> part 3
>>83719084
Time doesn't work that way, how are people still getting this wrong?
If the Green Sun was gone from the perspective of the new universe, Jade wouldn't have been able to relocate the Earth.
>>83719145
Hmm. What if they just don't have sburb in universe c? Or destroy the temple? English can only enter through scratch right? Also I'm pretty sure caliborn and calliope were born on the alpha earth years in the future since Lil seb was there with them as well as all the shitty statue of liberties.
>>83719145
I'm pretty sure that the Green Sun shining on it isn't actually needed for LE to enter a session, just Cal being there.
Isn't the house juju supposed to trap the beta kids forever? I know the wiki isn't very good but that's what the wiki is saying and I'm assuming it's backed up from some quote during Caliborn's Masterpiece.
>>83719084
Time doesn't work that way in the Furthest Ring. That's why the Green Sun already existed to power Doc Scratch before Dave and Rose created it from The Tumor. It's a paradox.
>>83719145
I think that he can't go to Universe C because it's not connected to Paradox Space and is "unstuck" from the canon. I think that if he tries to go there that it creates a doomed timeline and isn't something allowed in his alpha timeline. I'm not sure though; I need to get some sleep.
>>83719259
If it wasn't connected, then John and company couldn't jump to the Masterpiece.
>>83719175
>Jade wouldn't have been able to relocate the Earth.
That's actually false. According to Hussie in a tumblr answer or something planets are easy to move around in Homestuck. You can just captchalogue them and stuff like that.
Never mind the fact that she is still a god tier ghost sprite.
Any foot smut of this?
>>83718998 #
tfw everyone wants you to be gay
Quick question: it's obviously forbidden to skip the Intermission, but is it okay to skip the majority of the lilypad subact?
>>83719296
Well they might be able to because John's unstuck teleportation powers are different from Lord English's teleportation powers.
>>83719223
if you subscribe to the "the house juju is the webcomic" theory, then they will always be in the house because the webcomic will always have them as the main characters.
>UU: and while the emerald eye of this storm is fixed in the abyss forever
>UU: today yoU are poised to escape its scowl once and for all.
What did she mean by this?
>>83719208
I think you're right, but I'm confused now. Can someone explain the timeline of the two earths? Like, who does what with which one.
Anyone got all the art used for each song in vol 10?
>>83719326
I guess. It's mostly just teen drama I think.
>>83719310
There might be. What's it worth to ya?
>>83719371
I will give you nothing but thanks, and a metaphorical hearty handshake.
>>83719335
Does the comic ever say that the juju traps them "forever" or is the wiki just bullshitting me with speculation?
>>83719364
You could've gone to Bandcamp and gotten the art yourself, you know.
>>83719326
given that act 7 doesnt actually tell you what happens next, and you have to infer it from dialogue in that intermission, if you didnt read it youd be even more lost than the rest of us. its mostly shit but youve just gotta suck it up.
>>83719364
>>83719309
Uh yeah, you can captchalogue them. They already did that.
Now you're in space, without a spacesuit, light years from the nearest habitable star. And while you have a guy who can teleport planets around, he has zero knowledge of where to place it.
It would be impossible to get Earth into a safe position without green sun powers.
>>83719396
Caliborn said
> AND JUST LIKE THAT, THEY WERE GONE. THEIR SOULS WERE TRAPPED IN MY JUJU. FOREVER.
but he said in the next breath
> I TRAPPED IT BACK IN THE CHEST! AND BANISHED IT AWAY, WHERE NO ONE WOULD EVER FIND IT.
So I don't believe we can trust him when he says they are trapped "forever." Sometimes wiki authors will quote sources without thinking about whether the source is a reliable or accurate source.
Someone more trustworthy said she doesn't know what will happen:
> VRISKA: Other sources allude to a more specific consequence.
> VRISKA: That the weapon actually contains the souls of some incredi8ly powerful warriors of legend who came close to 8eating him once, so he trapped them inside the charm and 8anished it into the void.
> VRISKA: And if that's the case, then... I guess the weapon just releases them so they can finish the jo8?
> VRISKA: Guess we'll find out!
>>83719396
Caliborn says it. And you know he couldn't be wrong about something one time in a dramatic reversal, that might actually be interesting and we can't have that.
Be honest; who is actually excited for Hiveswap?
Obviously there's a lot of cynicism and pessimism here, and it's entirely understandable. But is there anyone who might still think it'll be decent, at the least? I'm probably just desperate for a brand new Homestuck experience, without any of the baggage of the comic.
>>83719310
Lusting after feet is illegal.
>>83719396
caliborn does say forever, but its not a big jump to say that 'forever' as applied to the juju describes the whole duration of the comic, which is all space and time from the point of view of characters inside it. and doesnt apply to time outside of it, ie. post act 7 when the kids are released and fight LE
>>83719509
I don't care if it's good or bad, I just want more Alternia and trolls. I've already paid for it with the kickstarter and waited this fucking long that it's more of an obligation to see it through, really.
>>83719509
Joey's... slutty... feet...
>>83719509
I have sworn off Hussie forever, regret immensely the money and time I spent giving him attention, and wish to forget everything about this.
>>83719509
I'm not expecting it to be the grandiose heartshaking epic that is Homestuck. But I believe it will be worth my time.
>>83719531
>Alternia
I have some bad news for you.
I wish more webcomics had fan-made music and interactive flashes and animations.
>>83719561
Its confirned alternia
>>83719549
Delete this. Roxy doesnt have slutty feet
>>83719509
I am, mostly for toby's music
>>83719401
touche anon
>>83719509
i dont have any opinions about the quality of games i havent played yet. ive already decided to buy it because undertale proved the idea of a homestuck game has potential. then i guess ill find out if lightning can strike twice
Tavros vs Karkat
who wins
>>83719514
No it isn't.
But kissing boys is.
>>83719509
I think it'll have good writing, at least. Even though Hussie had Cohen replace him as head writer, it was probably more out of not having enough time to do that and everything else, plus he also should've had 90% of the writing done by then, so it's likely he's just filling in the gaps for him
>>83719580
did you skip parts of the comic? rtfc
>>83719310
A lot.
>>83719602
Karkat. He'll just push Tavros over.
>>83716875
>mfw someone links a thing you made
:)
>>83719618
She had slippers on. Rose is the lalonde with slutty feet
>>83719580
Sure she does. In the Alpha universe, Roxy even runs her own foot fetish clipsite, the quality of it rivaling the SBaHJ site
Tell me about your Homestuck regrets, /hst/.
>>83719655
ERP
so much erp
>>83719599
Lightning did strike twice though. In 2009, Problem Sleuth was already worth being famous for and influential.
>>83719629
>implying Tavros isn't stronger than Karkat
>even able to fight LE
>>83719679
He didn't fight LE, he tap danced on his head when Aradia froze him.
>>83719638
dude, ballet slippers wreck feet.
I hope her magic pyjamas include something to keep her feet clean and unbroken.
>>83719655
$250
>>83719696
Why do you have all these pictures of feet...?
>>83719696
>>83719645
Roxys feet are pure. Like janes or kanayas. They all have pure non slutty feet
>>83719696
Yeah. Like John's semen.
>>83719708
Some people get turned on by seeing bare feet. It only makes sense that those people will try to find pictures featuring bare feet.
>>83719716
>Kanaya
>not having slutty feet
Anon...
>>83719708
I... don't know why. I'm not even into feet.
>>83719499
I can't tell if you're implying that he is wrong about it or implying that Hussie isn't fun enough to let something interesting happen. Do you mind clarifying? I'm like Kanaya when it comes to "human sarcasm."
>actually liked davekat pre-retcon
>vriskagram and everything post-retcon was so bad that the ship just feels like a gross empty shell of everything that made me like it initially
>we didn't even see any bantz between them for fucks sake and karkat's character arc completely died
>apparently disliking the ship means you hate gay people now so nobody believes me when I say I have legitimate reasons for disliking it
>>83719514
How did the _____ is illegal meme originate? A joke about John hating gays?
>>83719636
im torn between telling the reddit mod to leave and praising you for making a fucking quality map that ive had favourited and used tons of times since i found it
>>83719716
did you mean their feet are pure...ly for sexual?
>>83719767
your sarcasm detector is working, you just aren't trusting it. Caliborn is an unreliable narrator, especially when he's bragging about his own accomplishments.
>footstuff
>nobody posted the smeck comic yet
>>83719821
i have a boner now
>>83716277
Only up to song 5. It'll probably be my favourite
Beatup is just so, so good.
>>83716761
I don't recall Slick being either of those things
>>83719761
>storing your weird webcomic smut folder clearly labelled in your home directory
it's as if you WANT your power level to be exposed
>>83719827
It's on deck, just warming up the audience.
>>83719636
Is that MSPA Reader going god tier with a bong?
>>83719701
On Hiveswap?
>>83719845
_nice_
>>83719790
The official Volume 10 ad had a line saying "Uh oh! Looks like those Strider boys are in trouble, and not just because kissing boys is illegal."
>>83719767
More like the wiki editors are way too literal minded sometimes.
>>83719695
that was my favorite part of collide
look at LE's face he is so not having that shit
>>83719636
Do these boxes with markup instead of nasty-ass images
>>83719509
I'm excited for it but not as much as I would be for the Epilogue or any other upd8. I guess it's because it seems spin-off-y and so I don't expect it to have a big impact on the canon, unlike an update.
>>83719848
That's the Bard from Bard's Quest
that's either his lute or his bong, one or the other
a fanfiction from waaay back.
1/3
>>83719872
I thought the ad was based on a meme that already existed?
>>83719915
>bloodtint
DISGUSTING.
>>83719915
2/3
>>83719943
What The Hecky
>>83719915
>>83719943
3/3
You'll recognize some old reliable reaction images from this comic.
Sadly (fortunately?) this is as far as it went. deviantArt ids are in the filenames if you want to look up the artist.
Stop. I don't want a foot fetish.
>>83719897
It's embarrassing to admit, but my favorite scene was the Undertale reference. I just likeDavepetaway too much.
That's my second favorite scene though. It was Tavros's one moment of bravery and he is just so cute, feeling proud and full of self-esteem while Lord English is too paralyzed to move.
>>83719636
its great. my only issue with it is: why did you change some of the canon act names? 'penis ouija' is better than 'haphazard existential clusterfuck', for example. the names you picked for part 4 were great though
>>83720003
>someone else thinks tavros is cute
patrician taste
Comprehensive list of heterosexuals in Homestuck:
- John
- Jane
- Equius
- Feferi
- Jack Noir
- PM
- DD
Did your favorite character get a song? Did they at least get in some of the album art?