Surprised no one is talking about this even Plebbit or Facebook. Civil War 2 has been interesting so far and keeping things low key, making everyone come up to their own conclusions. What do you suppose will be the huge reveal for this issue?
>http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/06/08/civil-war-ii-3-and-marvel-now-previews-to-ge-a-midnight-release-on-tuesday-july-12th/
>Archive link for you "patricians"
>http://web.archive.org/web/20160609152323/http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/06/08/civil-war-ii-3-and-marvel-now-previews-to-ge-a-midnight-release-on-tuesday-july-12th/
>inb4 shill
I just want to see everyone's thoughts on current Marvel without anything remotely related to SJW-Hate Circlejerking ruining the entire thread
>>83715668
Civil War II #4 has been delayed to July 27 as well; blame butthurt Marvel PR.
>>83715675
>inb4 they change another meaningless details that were spoiled from the leaks
I still can't get over them changing Homer to Ulysses, what the fuck was the point. Both are terrible names.
>>83715668
>Surprised no one is talking about this
Because we've all decided we hate CWII, and I personally have seen little to convince me I should care what happens.
I always found the idea of Civil War 2 stupid. Not the story, but just in general.
>People liked it the first time...so let's do THE SAME THING AGAIN
>>83715687
I mean that's why they're releasing this Quesada Variant, to show those people who lapsed that they're gonna miss something big.
>>83715668
>Civil War 2 has been interesting so far
Not really, it's just forced drama
>keeping things low key
Thanos and Celestial are in the first issue and two characters died in a contrived way
>making everyone come up to their own conclusions
That's just Bendis bad writing
I had no hope for this event and until now I was proved right. The only thing I care about is if we can get the Bingo
>>83715710
That variant will come to stores as polybagged.
When every other event now is heroes versus heroes, why on Earth would yet another heroes vs heroes event interest anyone?
>>83715718
Would Trinity war count has heroes vs heroes?
Banner finds out Jen died so he gets involved. He ends up getting killed due to some contrived circumstance. Ulysses is involved again.
Ulysses probably predicts Banner becomes the Hulk again and kills everyone in a fit of rage in the future. Hawkeye probably kills him to prevent that future. The proverbial "would you murder baby Hitler" that Tony talked about. Come to think of it, Tony also included Hulk in that question. Hulk-Ultron baby.
>>83715684
>I still can't get over them changing Homer to Ulysses, what the fuck was the point. Both are terrible names.
Yeah, I'm still not over that. "Our character can see the future, so lets give him an Ancient Greek name that does not in any way reflect that talent". I mean, why not call him Tiresias or something, after, you know, a prophet?
>>83715715
I haven't been reading this, which squares are filled in already?
>>83715969
Just off the top of my head, from reading issue 1
>Characters acting out of character
>references to old Civil War
>LOOK AT THE INHUMANS
>X-Men are absent(so far)
>SOMEONE DIES
>Guardians of the Galaxy (will) show up
>Bendis created character is important
Is this the new secret wars? But instead of action figures it's movie tickets
>>83715668
> Civil War 2 has been interesting
oh, fuck you
>>83715668
>Civil War 2 has been interesting so far
In which alternate universe are you living ?
>>83715668
>inb4 shill
>uses web.archive as an archive link
I wonder where we could've gotten that idea.
>>83716183
You forgot "continuity is ignored", courtesy of Doc "I got better lol" Samson.
>>83716203
The all new, all different universe
>>83716227
If the universe is all different, maybe Bendis really DID get good.
All Civil War 2 has done so far is prove how stupidly overpowered Dr Strange, Wanda and the rest of those magicfags are and how they don't belong in mainstream Marvel events.
>>83716183
>>83716222
Also "someone is called a sexist" with Hellstrom the victim.
>>83716183
>>X-Men are absent(so far)
Bullshit. Jean Grey was used prominently in issue 1.
>>83715668
>What do you suppose will be the huge reveal for this issue?
Banner is killed by somebody from Carol's team. The killer is arrested and goes on trial. Probably found innocent, eventually.
I'm more excited to see the Ultimates CW2 tie-ins. #7 was already a better intro than the FCBD issue.
>>83715668
Bendis is a terrible writer and has no business working with any of these characters after the shit he's pulled. (Disassembled, M-Day, his entire X-Men run, etc...) At this point I can only hope what has already happened in Civil War II gets hand-waved away as "It was all a dream" so we can have Jen and Rhodey back and we can get back to better comics.
Everything else is doing pretty good. New Avengers and Ultimates FTW! Even Nazi Cap is mildly entertaining, if only because it's nice that someone remembered Jack Flag is a thing.
Isn't the only reason Civil War 2 has been anything remotely resembling 'low key' is because it's been vastly overshadowed by Nazi Cap? I feel like people would be bitching more about CW2 and Doctor Manhattan causing the New 52 or whatever if that hadn't happened at the same time.
>>83715668
Doesn't it have She-Hulk dying from a missile to the tit?
>>83716609
Not just any missile. A "knock down Thanos" missile, which apparently War Machine can easily, and without notice, get ahold of within 3 hours.
>>83716631
It should have been Carol "no one cares about you Denvers" who died not She-Hulk. At least She-Hulk is an interesting character.
>>83716555
It seems more "low key" to me than it probably should because half the plot leaked in January and they apparently didn't change it
Also because of the theory that the first few issues are a vision and nothing will happen for real until like issue 4 or 5
>>83716643
Carol is getting a movie though. They don't need She Hulk while Hulk is in the movies
>>83716555
>Dr. manhattan causing the New 52
I'm not sure why people are even bitching about this
>>83716643
I'd prefer she not die.
At least not from something fucking retarded like "Oops, I dropped my Thanosbuster Missile on She-Hulk's boobs."
>>83716643
No one should be dieing for this stupidity. If someone has to die it should be in a better comic!
>>83716652
Uneccisary shoehorning in of unrelated characters to hand wave away a stupid reboot decision and shitting on the legacy of Alan Moore. You know, just an average Tuesday for DC.
>>83716654
Especially since it had to be explained outside the issue.
Ya don't get credit for things you didn't actually write.
>>83716683
It wasn't even explained in the FCBD issue. It had to be explained on a twitter post. No comic book should require a reference to a twitter post to make sense. Tweets are for people with too much time on their hands and too many unsolicited opinions about Israel.
Civil War II is probably the most manufactured event in recent memory. Say what you will about stuff like Fear Itself, but they at least try to be original. This book just feels like a checklist that wasn't really thought out.
>>They need a reason to fight, let's make it future predictions.
>>We can't have it feel the same, so switch Cap out with Carol
>>We need death. Kill off these characters.
>>Interest is wanning, have another death happen in issue 3.
>>Be sure to include all the new favorites.
And what we got is an event that really doesn't make sense. It's even more boneheaded when the lines are drawn at issue 4/5. What's the point of having tie ins this early if none of the hero vs. hero stuff happens so late into the event? Hell, why are the heroes picking sides? I can see a lot of characters sitting this one out because they don' care.
And again, Tony's side makes no sense.
>another hero dying
oh god its hawkeye isnt it?
BENDIS!!!! HOW MANY TIMES MUST YOU KILL CLINT!!!
>>83716764
Likely to promote a possibly upcoming Kate Bishop solo book.
>>83716652
>Johnsfags still incapable of seeing the problem with that
disgusting
>>83716764
Popular theory is that Hawkeye is going to kill Bruce Banner. Three covers hint at this.
>>83716774
i love kate bishop but thats stupid. she can have a book with clint alive. in fact id prefer it. clint popping up as a supporting character would be great. instead of a book where she angsts over the death of her mentor.
>>83716795
Cover 1
>>83716806
Cover 2
>>83716812
And probably the most condemning
>>83716795
so the big death is banner, with a side of hawkeye character assasination.
BENDIS!!!!
>>83715855
Because they're currently a character in Hercules/Gods of War
>>83715855
because normies wouldn't get that. now if he was a girl named Cassandra people might get that
>>83715855
>>83715684
I think it's because they realized everyone would be making Homer Simpson jokes.
>>83716862
That's the audience they chose.
>>83716862
I still way some scenes need a photoshopped "D'oh"/"Annoyed Grunt" in them . . .
>>83716822
That's just an example, there are hundreds of prophets in Greek myths
>>83716888
I was hoping for a comic where the heroes are arresting Ned Flanders and Carol asks Homer "Now, you sure he's gonna be the next Hitler?" Homer "I'm sure"
>>83716857
I'm not that optimistic to believe that most normies know Ulysses either.
>>83716782
Then go ahead, explain it to me
>>83715668
Knowing Bendis it's either something completely obvious that he thinks is somehow a twist OR it's something completely out of character and retarded and unforeshadowed.
>>83715855
Probably because Tiresias is literally already in Hercules and his CWII mini. It would be redundant.
>Civil War 2 has been interesting so far
lmao
>>83716764
No, it's Banner. Clint is the one whose going to kill him though, then be arrested for murder as a result.
>>83716555
The Rebirth stuff had plenty of threads when it was new but since we don't even know when and where the story will continue there's no point in continuously talking about it until something else happens to elaborate on where they're going with it beyond the general meta stuff.
>>83715684
Who is homer?
>>83715684
What were the changes so far?
>>83717651
The Inhuman macguffin. He was originally named Homer. Everybody said that was really dumb, so they changed it.
>>83717881
D'OH!
>>83715668
Because CW2 is shit anon
I still can't get over how they admitted to shitting the event out in 3 months solely because the movie with the same name was coming out
>>83715668
>Civil War 2 has been interesting so far and keeping things low key
So low key some of it got leaked and marvel's screaming HEY GUYS WE'RE GONNA KILL ANOTHER PERSON OKAY PLS PAY ATTENTION
>>83715668
>Shitty Marvel event where nothing happens except a bunch of jobber characters die like retards
>delays will have this going right into 2017
Why does this company take so long to produce schlock smdh
>>83715668
>I just want to see everyone's thoughts on current Marvel without anything remotely related to SJW-Hate Circlejerking ruining the entire thread
are you even aware of what are you saying?
This thread is more proof that /co/ is full of /tv/ shitposter
Does ANYONE here actually read comics?
>>83715675
>two Steve Cap issues got delayed
>some CW2 issues got delayed
Elongating the story for the former, damage control for the latter.
>>83716764
As it has already been said, there're a lot of clues to think he's, in facto, the one who's going to kill (Banner, probably). We don't know if intended or not. In any case, he's going to get his share of shitting on him in this Bendis event, as per usual.
FUCKING BENDIS WHO CANNOT STAND NORMIES. Even if they're awesome, and clever, and charming, and fun.
>>83720565
Why because they aren't sucking off Marvel's latest event? Fuck off, just because some of us have taste doesn't mean we don't read comics.
>>83720565
Your event is shit, Brevoort.
>>83715675
wouldn't be a marvel event without any delays
>>83715668
>inb4 shill
You know, saying that doesn't mean you're not a shill.
You know damn well your event is shit Marvel, quit trying to astroturf.
>>83716806
>And again, Tony's side makes no sense.
That's a pretty good cover actually.
>>83716652
because it's one of the stupidest decisions made in current comic history?
current Marvel sucks but even they haven't stooped that low yet
>>83715668
>I just want to see everyone's thoughts on current Marvel without anything remotely related to SJW-Hate Circlejerking ruining the entire thread
If you don't want us to believe you're a shill, then don't call Civil War 2 "pretty interesting".
>>83721406
Fuck off its a brilliant piece of meta-commentary that presents more nuanced symbolism than even the most esteemed Marvel "comic"
It's no surprise that it would fly over a Marvelfags head though since you faghots are literally too stupid to understand the meaning behind it.
Fucking Christ, when is being a marvelfag going to be a bannable offense because I'm getting really sick of having you people constantly shitting on DC 24/7. We get it, you have shit taste. Maybe go back to tumblr where you belong and leave /co/to the superior patrician cape fans.
>>83721825
>tfw this could easily be real
>>83715668
>Civil War 2 has been interesting so far
Gotta get that Disney money. I get that, OP.
>Clint finally gets to be Clint again in New Avengers
>immediately gets pulled into a Bendis event
Lovely
>>83722006
Is he dragging Scarlet Witch into this one too?
>>83722028
Oh anon. Of course she is. All of Bendis' most hated characters are on Team Carol while all of his favorite characters are on Team Tony for a very good reason.
>>83722080
I don't see Richard Rider on team Carol.
>>83715715
>beast blames cyclops
>x-men are absent
>in the same column
Way to fuck up.
>>83715668
>Civil War 2 has been interesting so far
Nah, it really isn't.
>>83722240
He's on team already dead
>>83722381
She Hulk getting killed by the Thanos-killing missiles Rhodey just happens to have is something.
Definitely not good, but it makes you wonder just how dumb Bendis is.
>>83722240
he already destroyed him in original sin
>>83715969
>>83716183
>>83722800
You missed Scarlet Witch gets shit on.
>>83716806
>>83716812
>>83716816
It's a fakeout. Clint will ATTEMPT to kill Banner, which is what causes the predicted Hulk-out in classic greek tragedy style, leading to Clint being killed by an angry Hulk.
>>83722917
So either way Clint and Banner both get shat on it
Tony blaming Ulysses for Rhodey's death is fucking stupid.
It wasn't the Minority Report situation that Tony said would happen, it was THANOS. Rhodey died doing his job, it could have happened in any misssion, and a fight against Thanos was inevitable even without Ulysses' prediction.
Bendis fucked up in making THIS be the catalyst for Tony trying to take out Ulysses, since Tony's "I told you so" rings hollow, since the Thanos situation has nothing to do with the moral debate of using Ulysses.
>>83722937
Well yeah, it's Bendis.
>>83722917
Except Banner can't Hulk out. Cho drained him of all of his gamma. He's just a regular ol' dude.
>>83722917
Actually, Ulysses' predictions have all been the exact opposite of greek tragedies, which is weird since he's named after the main character of Homer's Odyssey.
His predictions don't always come true because they show the original future, what would happen if events flowed naturally. Since Ulysses warns people about them, this causes people to naturally act differently or to try and do something to avoid that future.
So no, I don't think we'll get any "in trying to prevent the future we actually cause the future" scenarios given how his powers seem to work.
>>83721406
Anon, yes they have. Civil War II, for fuck's sake. They don't have the decency to make a name name!
>>83722917
Banner can't hulk out anymore. Cho took it all.
>Ulysses has a vision of Hulk destroying shit
>Carol's side panics
>Clint or somebody else on her side kills Banner before he can hulk out
>they didn't know Banner wasn't hulk and couldn't hulk out anymore
>they didn't know Cho can hulk out
>they just killed an innocent person
>Cho freaks out and hulks out because he loves Banner and Hulk
>destroys shit
>Tony berates them for trying to do something about Hulk
screencap this
>>83723041
>Banner can't hulk out.
>>83723249
>Banner can't hulk out anymore.
>Implying Bendis reads any books not by Bendis
>>83723249
>>they didn't know Banner wasn't hulk and couldn't hulk out anymore
>>they didn't know Cho can hulk out
But these things are public knowledge, they can't possibly be that ignorant.
>>83723354
>bendis
>>83723354
All the better to make Tony more right.
Question: why should we care anymore?
It's clear Bendis doesn't give a fuck about the shit he writes about, and all of the Civil War II books are already selling well. The event will go off without a hitch, and later in the year we'll get Marvel Now!, where Iron Man is revealed to be gay and the next Squirrel Girl is black or some shit. Then we'll get a new event based on Infinity War, and then another reboot that will be called All Newer, All Differenter Marvel that changes EVERYTHING but still makes all comics closer to their movie versions.
What I'm trying to say is that Marvel has become a snake eating its own tail, and we can't stop it aside from not reading their books. Complaining will only give Marvel more publicity.
>>83722847
Eh, that was just a simple joke at her and Hellstrom's expense.
I think that slot should be saved for when Bendis inevitably does something worse to her. It's in his nature, he can't help it, his vision of the character was shaped by Byrne.
>>83716812
I love Notos art.
>>83721825
>>83716555
>Isn't the only reason Civil War 2 has been anything remotely resembling 'low key' is because it's been vastly overshadowed by Nazi Cap?
Doubt it. Info on the first issue leaked back in January.
And then Scanbro leaked the FCBD Civil War II comic which indirectly confirmed stuff the script leaker provided.
On top of that there were a bunch of solicitations which confirmed it, too (ie covers with Jen and Rhodey on it, the Hellcat solicitation, and possibly some other stuff)
>>83716709
It wasn't on twitter. It was on Bendis' tumblr.
>>83723354
You're talking about Civil War II, a comic written by a guy who thinks War Machine would somehow get Anti-Thanos missiles and that She-Hulk would fall into a coma or die do to a missile to the tits.
>>83715668
I can't get over how stupid the Marvel Now thing is.
Going back to the same name, happening a year after ANAD, the shattered logo, etc.
Just everything.
>>83721825
This bait is far too weak family.
>>83723835
You're not the only one.
>>83723835
Sameface.
is she hulk for realz dead? cause comic sites keep tip toeing around it and only mentioning dead Rhodey which i find super strange
>>83724607
War Machine having upgraded to Thanos grade missles and fucking up and hitting/killing She Hulk in the crossfire is fine logically. bendis just failed at telling that story.
I just want the preview book.
>>83725111
All we saw was her flatlining but Carol makes a mention of her biology so they'll probably bullshit their way out or she'll just be in a coma
But Rhodey is like 100% dead tho
>>83725111
>is fine logically
It's on par with '98 Godzilla dying from some shitty missiles.
>>83725143
Ye ole shitty "twist" would occur with it. You think the "he" she was referring to with her last line was Tony; turns out she was referring to Ulysses. Boy SURE IS CLEVER WRITING.
>>83725183
Thanos is hugely powerful, it makes sense Rhodey would have super powerful weapons to fight him, they even had advance warning he was coming, and it makes sense something that could damage Thanos could damage She Hulk
again doesn't make the actual book good bc Bendis fumbled
theme song for this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwJKjuyLv80
>>83716643
She hasn't interesting for years. If she's not merely in a coma, I hope we get an All New All Different She Hulk.
>>83725325
Thanos is ungodly durable. If you made a missile intended to take him out, it'd wipe out the fucking state you're in.
Instead, the anti-Thanos missile has a very small explosion that only She-Hulk is injured by. On top of that, the thing was only like 2 feet long, there's no way that thing woild deliver a payload that could incapacitate Thanos.
>tfw Civil War II is pretty much fine
>tfw the constant sperg about it anyway
What's good, /co/?
>>83726256
If I'm understanding you properly, you're criticisms are
>A. You're upset that the explosion seemed incommensurate with the damage
>B. That the dimensions of the projectile were not sufficient to contain enough magic comics book explosives to have an effect anyway
Am I missing something? Is this the full argument you can bring to bear? Are you really bitching that the fictional explosives don't work the way you think they should?
>>83726396
t. shill
>>83726649
>pretty much fine
>shill
The best part about this is that most of the criticisms aren't even nitpicking, because that would suggest the point was valid, but is too small to really effect the whole.
They aspire to be nitpicks, one day.
>>83726757
t. shill
>>83722973
>the Thanos situation has nothing to do with the moral debate of using Ulysses
Sure it does, if Tony believes the reason Rhodey died to be a result of Carol's overconfidence as a result of using Ulysses as a tool.
But further, where does Tony blame Ulysses? He just goes to where they're keeping him, presumably to take him away so they can't use him anymore.
>>83726790
caught me :<
>>83726870
>Sure it does, if Tony believes the reason Rhodey died to be a result of Carol's overconfidence as a result of using Ulysses as a tool.
Um no, it's clear that Tony's problem is that Ulysses was used as a source of intel at all. He never says anything about Carol being overconfident or whatever.
Also, that has nothing to do with what Marvel said the premise would be. This has nothing to do with the Minority Report pre-crime scenario.
>But further, where does Tony blame Ulysses? He just goes to where they're keeping him, presumably to take him away so they can't use him anymore.
That sounds like someone blaming Ulysses to me
>>83727016
He specifically says before-hand that his trubs is that they should be very careful about what they do with the information Ulysses tells them, which clearly Carol wasn't. Thus: "I told you."
Just because the pre-crime scenario hasn't been introduced yet, doesn't mean in won't be. Honestly, with Bendis as shit as he usually is, I'm pleasantly surprised they're at least gesturing towards some of the other issues having a precog around would generate, rather than just doing MR2.
>That sounds like someone blaming Ulysses to me
Does it? He shouted at Carol and told her it was her fault. He doesn't seem angry with Ulysses when he goes to his room. Being angry about the way his precog powers were used is not the same thing as being upset with Ulysses as a person.
>>83723655
>his vision of the character was shaped by Byrne.
>Byrne hated Vision
>Bendis hates Wanda
Is this what you call poetry?
>>83727253
No, Tony just doesn't want the intel to be used AT ALL. According to him, they shouldn't have tried to stop Thanos in the first place, which is fucking stupid.
There was nothing wrong with the way Carol acted on the intel, doing nothing like Tony would have wanted would in fact be a horrible thing to do.
>I'm pleasantly surprised they're at least gesturing towards some of the other issues having a precog around would generate
BUT THIS ISN'T A PROBLEM. Going after Thanos is exactly the same as the scenario of stopping the Celstial Destroyer. There is no morally grey thing going on.
>>83724567
It was also a fucking joke.
The thing you should be getting pissed about is how they made it sound like Carol asked Rhodey to help them take down Thanos when I'm pretty sure Rhodey just happened to show up at the time to surprise Carol.
>>83727415
Wasn't Vision not an Avenger basically the entire time Bendis had his grubby paws on them?
Maybe he just hates them both?
>>83727253
>they should be very careful about what they do with the information Ulysses tells them
Yes, because he was worried that Ulysses' intel wasn't reliable.
Except it was. Ulysses said that Thanos would come, and Thanos came.
>>83727628
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Vision was out of commission up until the end of his run when he rejected Wanda and had himself a little cry.
>>83727439
Tony is literally You Can't Handle This Responsibility: the Character. Allowing Carol access to Ulysses resulted in her going after Thanos and getting Rhodey killed. Pic related, they had enough time to evacuate the whole base, but they didn't bother to call anybody else to fight fucking Thanos, because Carol was overconfident.
>>83727724
Yeah, that's one of the reasons to be careful. But he specifically says to be careful about both the information AND what they do about that information, because even if they information is accurate, it can lead to bad outcomes, like dead Rhodey.
>>83727951
>Tony is literally You Can't Handle This Responsibility: the Character. Allowing Carol access to Ulysses resulted in her going after Thanos and getting Rhodey killed. Pic related, they had enough time to evacuate the whole base, but they didn't bother to call anybody else to fight fucking Thanos, because Carol was overconfident.
Now you'r putting words in Tony's mouth, he never said any of that, his only criticism was the fact that they listened to Ulysses. If his problem was with the way Carol handled it, how exactly is taking out Ulysses going to solve anything? All he's done is guarantee that nobody can evacuate next time Uysses predicts an earthquake or whatever.
And Carol wasn't being overconfident, she went with the Ultimates (top tiers) and everyone she had on field, the team she brought was definetly better than the one Steve Rogers brought to fight Thanos and all of his elite minions (pic related). Because guess what, Carol actually managed to stop Thanos, Steve's group didn't, they needed a Deus Ex Machina character to do it for them.
>because even if they information is accurate, it can lead to bad outcomes, like dead Rhodey.
EVERYTHING can lead to a bad outcome. Every time any hero goes out on the field, he could die. Just because Rhodey happened to die on a mission done on Ulysses' intel doesn't mean his death can be pinned on Ulysses. That logic is fucking stupid.
What exactly are you saying? They should leave Thanos do what he wants because someone might die?
>>83715675
Didn't they announce it and take the artist off of IIM in November or December?
How slow is he to get delays 4 issues in
Or are they just changing some things since response the event has been very poor so far lol
>>83728158
>Now you'r putting words in Tony's mouth
We're using context clues. We don't need a character to literally say everything they think, that's shit writing, we can infer. And we infer from: Tony establishing a suspicion of how the information was to be used, Carol not contacting anyone, Tony then blaming Carol for Rhodey's death.
>If his problem was with the way Carol handled it, how exactly is taking out Ulysses going to solve anything?
He isn't, he's just removing Ulysses, which does solve the problem, as Carol is no longer able to use his powers to make bad decisions.
>And Carol wasn't being overconfident, she went with the Ultimates (top tiers) and everyone she had on field
AND, despite having three hours, called literally nobody to help. Result: two dead capes.
>What exactly are you saying? They should leave Thanos do what he wants because someone might die?
What I'm saying is, Carol has an inferiority complex and is constantly trying to prove something. Ulysses gives her the ability and confidence to attempt to avert disastrous situations, taking risks she shouldn't take. This resulted, again, in two dead capes. Carol is the last person you want with this ability, so Tony is attempting to take it away.
>>83728386
Let's for the sake of argument accept your questionable premise that Tony is fine with people using Ulysses, he just doesn't want Carol using him, even though Carol did in fact succeed at stopping Thanos.
How exactly is kidnapping Ulysses from the Inhumans the right course of action? He should go to Attilan and talk to Ulysses and Medusa, telling them that Carol shouldn't be trusted and that Ulysses' intel should be shared with everyone.
Instead, he's kidnaping Ulysses, meaning NOBODY gets access to his intel.
>>83728573
>NOBODY
Except Tony. Who we know has much more faith in himself than he does in anybody else.
And sure, maybe Tony didn't go about things as elegantly as possible, but he's a recovering alcoholic with mental health issues and a God-complex whose best friend just died as a result of, in his mind, someone ignoring his advice.
Him deciding to take matters into his own hands, now that people have already proven they won't listen to the things he tells them, isn't a huge stretch.
>>83728679
>someone ignoring his advice.
What advice? "Don't go after other heroes for something Ulysses says they might do"? Because that's the only advice he gave >>83722973
>>83728799
>"we should be v careful"
That advice.
>>83722354
Beast is no longer an X-man, he's working with inhumans.
>>83728900
His point is that you can't ever have both checked at the same time, so that column can never make bingo.
>>83728386
I'm sorry, but it's clear that Tony isn't pissed off at Carol for not calling more people.
Do you know how I know? BECAUSE TONY WAS MAD THAT RHODEY WAS THERE.
He said "he isn't even on your team". Those don't sound like the words of someone who thinks Carol should have called more people.
Who made the Anti Thanos missile? how do you make one? with the shit Drax has that makes him a Thanos killer? why would that affect She-Hulk?
>>83728988
Your conclusion doesn't follow from your premises. The Ultimates are a Thanos-level team, Rhodey is not a Thanos-level cape, Carol let him come, he died.
He can very easily be upset that the only person they brought was Rhodey, who was very obviously out of his element.
>>83725111
>is she hulk for realz dead?
It's pretty obvious that she's not.
>>83716764
Worse; Bendis is going to make Clint a murderer (murdering Bruce Banner AKA the Hulk) and sending him to jail for life so they can push another affirmative action title (Kate Bishop as Hawkeye)
>>83728840
Wow, real generic advice there
>>83729116
>Rhodey is not a Thanos-level cap
he bought anti-Thanos missiles from the army surplus store remember? he was totally ready to fight
>>83730697
This comment is the funniest one, not because it sounds so ridiculous but because it's actually canon
>>83716932
"No you it idiot! I'm the Dig-Dang-diddly DEVIL!"
>>83723320
His Ultimate End shows he has very little understanding of what other writers write.
>>83728840
>>"we should be v careful"
>That advice.
That advice came off after he spent time talking about how it could be a problem if Ulysses saw a superhero as a menace. Logically the only thing he could've meant was "let's be careful about using him otherwise we'd have to fight one another." It doesn't make sense with the later scene.
>>83727951
>But he specifically says to be careful about both the information AND what they do about that information, because even if they information is accurate, it can lead to bad outcomes, like dead Rhodey.
No he fucking didn't. Look at >>83722973
again. His only warning was "What happens if Ulysses sees Hulk or Captain Marvel as potentially causing a threat, do we stop them even if the threats don't know they're going to be threats?" He didn't say shit about bad outcomes due to villainous threats like Thanos. That's why the later scene where he freaks out about how he warned them makes no sense.
And if Bendis tries to defend it on tumblr by saying something like "yeah tony really meant that they should be careful about attacking thanos prematurely" or something, then that's fucking bad writing.
