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Why was Beyond so good?
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Why was Beyond so good?
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Because it's actually a Spiderman show.

Also, Terry is REALLY bad at his job.
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>>83697069
Because they took every opportunity to fuck with the executives.

>We want a Batman in High School series
>Sure, scoffs Timm, but it won't be Bruce

>We think this was too violent. Change it
>Sure, scoffs Dini, we'll just make it traumatizing instead

>We want you to make a movie
>Sure, scoffs Brunett, it's gonna be about child abuse and the Joker will get shot
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TERRY ARE YOU IN A BLACK HOUSE

GET OUT OF THERE
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>>83697069
Because it's like a teenage batman show!
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The girls were hot in the Batman Beyond show.
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Do you think Terry is sexy?
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Because Terry didn't give a fuck.
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>>83697069
Because Bruce Timm's girls gave us premature boners when we were kids.
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>>83698368
Well, he almost had the chance to fuck with Dana Tan.
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>>83697069
This show is so shway all the time.
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>>83697069
No Flash
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>>83698677
Not even close
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>>83698744
No, that's why beyond was so good.
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>>83697069
because it was a Spider-Man show for people that aren't realy fans of Batman

they even ripped of his rogue
the evil radioactive guy was pretty much Osborne
the hunter guy was Kraven
and they even had Terry meet the Not-Fantastic 4
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>>83698820
>and they even had Terry meet the Not-Fantastic 4
And then kill them horribly
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>>83698904
Too good for them I say!
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>>83697069
Statik X intro
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>>83698793
Because it's a action show and something for teen life.
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>>83697069
because it was the perfect twist on the original formula -- essentially robin training to be batman with bruce as his coach in a techno-future.

the only thing i regretted is that he never quite had a joker-equivalent. blight was his main personal villain, but there wasn't a hyper-competent rogue that just lived to fuck with terry

it should have been ten
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>>83698820
>It stole his rogues!
>GREEN Goblin the main villain is also GREEN Paul Dini is a hack
>Uh that villain from the one episode who's a hunter original concept do not steal
>Also Spiderman's most famous rogues The Fantastic Four!
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>>83699461
>joker literally comes back
>comes closer than anyone to fucking murdering terry and bruce

i know you can't just bring the old rogues back but this and freeze's return were both god tier
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It's the closest we will ever get to a animated series about Dick Grayson too.
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>>83699642
I mean, they were his opposition in the very first issue of ASM.
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It wasn't perfect or amazing, but after the end of BTAS and STAS, kids wanted something more. Kevin Conroy returning as old Bruce kind of sealed the deal in terms of being the official successor to original cartoon. You can still see some of that "EXTREME" 90's gloss that was on everything at the time, but it honestly turned out OK for what it was.

Return of the Joker and the epilogue of JLU were decent tie-ins to BTAS as well.
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I still sneak the word schway into regular conversation. I'm gonna make it stick eventually
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Seeing the Blade Runner esque dystopian future of Gotham was pretty neat
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>>83697069
Low expectations coupled with someone who "got" the source material actually making a pretty good effort to do something with executive meddling gone horribly right.
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>>83697069
Because it's Batman+Spider-man

Two great tastes that go great together.
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>>83697069
Because they tried something new.
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we're actually watching Batman Beyond over at weebcrew.moe right now if anyone's interested.
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>>83699642
>>83698820

Inspiration more than ripoffs.

Inspiration, is clearly there - Inque was clearly inspired by Venom and Sandman, Spellbinder is inspired by Mysterio, Falseface was inspired by Chameleon, Derek Powers is inspired by Kingpin (Green Goblin? really?), Terrapin is the Rhino, Repeller by Electro, Payback by Punisher, Willie Watts and Golem by Doctor Octopus, and Shriek by Shocker and, well, Shriek - but they all take general concepts of those characters, and take them in completely different and creative directions.

People draw inspirations from other sources all the time, so when trying to make a teenage hero, Spider-Man seemed the obvious choice - so they decide to skip the boring exploration and simply decided that Spider-Man already did that, so they can borrow their homework, so to speak.
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>>83702528
>Derek Powers is inspired by Kingpin (Green Goblin? really?)
I generally agree with you except for here. Wasn't the dude a captain of industry who was turned twisted/given powers by some science bullshit? It's been awhile so maybe I'm remembering wrong. But that sounds more Osborne than kingpin inspired (although the first episode he was in he might have been more kingpinny)
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>>83697731
>the Joker will get shot
This is misleading. It implies he was shot with bullets, which is a no-no. No, he was simply shot with a steel rod. Not an arrow either mind you, pointy things are bad. It's a blunt steel rod.
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>>83697069

Because its set between Dark Knight Returns and Akira.
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>BB thread
>no one posted that bad endings chart yet
I'm surprised.

Also, Terry is my favorite Batman.
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Why do people keep saying this show was popular cos it was like Spiderman. How the fuck is it like Spiderman?
Did Spiderman ever have a future version of himself where someone else takes up the moniker in a sci fi city with a black and red costume that's high tech and let's them glide around and shit.....uh no
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Still had that 80s dystopia cyber punk with asian elements, flavor.
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>>83703477
Ehh, yes?
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>>83703477
are you actually retarded?
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>>83703477
>>83703606

That was a little too specific.
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>>83703477
I can see why people say it is like Spider-man, I can even agree with them, but I like BB better.
Also, yes, it is called Spider-Man 2099.
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>>83703685
No between the two of us I don't think it's me who has trouble thinking things through man.

I mean come on.
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>>83702365
Dancing to his sassy girlfriend.
>xd
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>>83698414
Terry! You have to rape the DeeDees! It's the only way to be sure!
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>>83704590
>Old Bruce and young Bruce brought together by the time fuckery JLU episode
>young Bruce looks askance when they have to rape the Joker they captured
>Old Bruce says "I can't believe I ever used to be that green."
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>>83704590
Already did, on to the next target.
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>>83698302
Yeah. Not timeskip terry, though. They just put a big brucejaw on him and called it a day.
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>>83697069
DC are godtier at making cartoons
Even at worst like YJ its still better than marvel
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>>83697069
Because they actually gave a crap, put effort into it, and made sure it wasn't some shitty spin off
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>>83704644
>Terry has surpassed Bruce in all the ways...
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Great Show.

Character still has many comics and alt cotsumes in video games. Certainly successful.
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>>83697130
What kind of person fails Family Studies?
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>>83698368
BAT OF MURDER BEYOND
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObSZp6Q9WCU

yallve seen these right?
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Someone post the image of all the death in the show
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>>83703079
That's not funny
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>>83698414
god the twins were like the best jokerz

i'm still rustled that the joker turned into a shitty tween gang in beyond
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>>83703606
C'mon, anon. That was waaaay too specific not to be bait.
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BLOW IT ALL UP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFpE_iNtWAo
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>>83703079
How does "impaled" strike you?
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>>83704700
I still can't get over how cool "Suicide by factory explosion" sounds.
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>>83697069
you guys don't prefer Beyond over the original, right?
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>>83711845
I personally don't, but I list it above JLU.
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>>83711845
At least half of the original series was boring as fuck. Quick Batgirl, we have to stop Dagget from boring the audience into a coma!
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>>83697069
It's kind of hard to fuck up Batman with a rocket boots and flying car.
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>>83704700
>wanting to tap that ass
what are you a faggot
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>>83701253
>It wasn't perfect or amazing

but it was

>>83709960
>tween

Uh they are clearly too old to be tweens.

>>83711962
This. It took them a while to get their stride with TAS so there are a lot of boring/mediocre episodes. BB built on that experience so every episode was great.
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>>83697069
did Tron uprising do a good job of doing the batman beyond thing?
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>>83698202
TERRY GET OUT OF THERE NOW
*electric guitar riffs*
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>>83704644
Open you mind
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>>83712380
>BB built on that experience so every episode was great.

this is false tho and clearly shows how biased you people are
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>>83714285

Man, Bruce is really pushing his liver
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>>83708699
this was pretty funny. Why aren't you posting the rest of them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdqT2ryvfgs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVJt6Q1j7H0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax7OkSLp5MA
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>>83704700
Stalker and Inque survived though.
I wonder if Inque can make her tits bigger with her powers
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>>83716779
Even Melanie has better tits.
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This show really got these girls shanking.
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>>83702528
except at the same time, you can cite Batman rogues that also inspire these
Inque is really more Clayface than Venom. being black goo doesn't change that her fighting style is more akin to "clayface but fast." Spellbinder is a modern Mad Hatter, etc etc

basically comic books are one big incestuous gangbang in terms of inspiration. The only people who ever actually created new ideas were Jack Kirby and Bill Finger.
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>>83703079
Which he falls on afterwards, pushing it in further.
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>>83697731
Unless you're watching the kid friendly version. Then he accidentally electrocutes himself.
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>>83704700
I have a question.

Is the digital soul guy related to the AI-making guy whose robots tried to take over Gotham in BTAS?
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>>83717075
I didn't mind it since Terry also electrocutes the chip. Pottery.
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>>83710111
More like Rad Stan, this guy was the best nemesis
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>>83710111
He's fucking crazy but he really did seem to want to help society.
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>>83717181
It was really pathetic though, how clearly they tried to ridicule the concept of anarchist freedom fighter/terrorist by having him shout "and no jury duty" in his fantasy world.
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>>83697130
Well, Spiderman was always a Batman show so makes sense
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>>83717398
One of my favorite parts in Spiderman TAS was spidey talking to a gargoyle whenever he felt bad and calling it Bruce.
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>>83716874
Unf dem hips
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>>83697069

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft6mNPeqa6Y
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I want to use schway more but I'm afraid I'll sound like a total dork and/or an autist
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>>83717853
N da legs
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>>83708699
>>83716689
Soulbro makes some good shit, wish I had money to throw at him

>Unlike the Hulk, when I get angry, I CRY A LOT
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>>83717917
>Believe me, you're the only one who cares.
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>>83717398
I'm a retard. Who are some of the rouges in spiderman and batman's side
For spiderman
>below Black Cat and below Shocker
For Batman
>below Clay face
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>>83720575
>below Black Cat
Beetle
>below Shocker
No idea.
>below Clay face
Electrocutioner
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>>83720741
Huh. Thanks anon
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>>83720575
Beetle, scarecrow, electrocutioner
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>>83697069
>good
I think you mean schway
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>>83697069
Why did you stretch a 4:3 image into 16:9?
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>>83698542
She's got them gorilla titties
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>>83708699

Christ that Joker-wannabe sounds exactly like Hamill.
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>>83720768
No I'm saying the guy NEXT to Scarecrow and below shocker
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>>83721010
Marvel has a scarecrow too
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>>83699461
Why would Melanie be Terry's Joker?
She was his Catwoman, and he didn't fuck around and just let her go like Bruce would always do with Selina.
And considering that Melanie did turn her life around, it was definitely a better approach than Bruce.
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Does anybody know what fanfic this is from?
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>>83717398
Some of these are a stretch
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>>83704700
didn't he tap dat ass though

I remember they were in bed together, fully clothed granted but still....
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>>83701253
>epilogue of JLU
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>APATHY
>GREED
>CORRUPTION
>POWER
>HOPE
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>>83720905
Aww great answer
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>>83721693
WOOO
WOOO
WOOO
WOOO
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>>83721037

I remember they kept making him as grimdark as possible, culminating in a story where he built a church or something out of still-living people.
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>>83724061
More
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>>83717398
Black cat > catwoman
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>>83722945
SAUUUUUCE
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>>83717398
Almost all of these comparisons are absolutely terrible, this was definitely done by a wikipediafag
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>>83716388
You're literally posting in a thread for fans to talk about a show they like. Don't try to bitch about them liking a show.
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>>83717398
>Joker and Green Goblin
Not really at all
>Killer Croc and the Lizard
Kinda, but completely different backstories and motivations
>Mr. Freeze and Doc Ock
What? Because they're both professors?
>Catwoman and Black Cat
Yeah, I'll give you this one
>Killer Moth and someone I don't know
I don't know the Spiderman guy, so I can't judge
>The Penguin and Kingpin
Oh, no! Mob bosses in New York environments?
>The Ridder and Mysterio
One gives riddles and mind puzzles. One does illusions. Not really close.
>Clayface and Sandman
Kinda close.
>Electrocutioner and Shocker
Don't know Electrocutioner, can't judge.
>Scarecrow and Scarecrow
They even have the same name.
>Man Bat and Morbius
One's a giant bat, the other is a complex vampire, who as far as I know, doesn't even transform into a bat. You might as well have Vulture here.
>Deadshot and Kraven
One's just another "Can't miss" guy, the other is the greatest hunter on the planet.
>Bane and Venom
What, because they're both Big Guys?
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>>83721037
>>83724061
>>83725749

I'm not even sure why he's there, considering he started out as an Iron Man (of all people) villain before becoming more commonly associated with Ghost Rider.
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>>83702528
Falseface was in the Adam West show you uncultured swine.
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>>83702997
Derek Powers was the main mastermind villain, causing events of multiple episodes, long before he turned into Blight. In season 1, he is pretty consistently Kingpin-styled, and his appaerances as Blight are rare until the finale, where he functionally dies. He also

So maybe he was inspired by GG to a degree, I will give you that. Remember, those are inspirations, not clones, some characters seem to have multiple inspirations - Shriek has name and sonic theme of Shriek, but using man-made weapons and a suit fits Shocker better, and Splicers seems to be simply a loose allusion to similarity between The Lizard and Man-Bat - and Inque visually looks like Venome symbiote, while sharing powers and weakness with Sandman.
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>>83726147
>>83717398
I think Man-Bat and Lizard are probably better parallels to each others than ones in this picture, down to a scientist friend of the hero unwittingly being transformed into a animal hybrid monster, and hero trying to help him, for the sake of scientists family.
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>>83727115
I know he was, and I can also guarantee noone would resurrect him if they didn't need him for some specific reason.
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>>83716987
Nice catch, but Sandman's weakness is water, just like Inques, and she doesn't impersonate people. Spellbinder does the illusion angle instead of just the mind control one - list goes on.

So I guess we could say they are fusions of Batman and Spiderman villains, with a cyberpunk angle? That's a pretty cool idea to make Batman fresh, actually, creators deserve credit for this - it lets them create a new version that FEELS familiar, while beign fresh - but they are also tonally consistent, because they mix always same two concepts? That is a cool idea.
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>>83703093
So, it's a Ronin cartoon?
... Actually, Samurai Jack and Batman Beyond DO feel pretty similar in general tone. Huh.
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>>83725864
Sasx
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