So has Abe been retconned as 'Nam vet rather than a WWII one yet?
If they're still going with WWII, he'd have to be what? 103?
He was a toddler during WWI, so around that ballpark, yeah.
>>83668292
he had more romantic flings than homer and was also a cuck
he's lived a full life
>>83668437
Fling with Homer? Ew, gross...
>>83668668
It was the style at the time.
>implying time is constant in Springfield
>>83668718
The flow of time is convoluted in Springfield
>>83668718
>>83668782
I've long subscribed to the head-canon that Springfield and its people exist outside of the normal concepts of time and space, hence why it's never tied to one location and why years and holidays go by so rapidly with no other indications of time passing.
>>83668292
I haven't seen every episode, but:
Even though the show's been technically constantly retconning itself since season 2 with time moving forward and everyone still staying the same age, I'm not sure if they've ever done that type of retcon. Like, a character's backstory being changed not because the writers wanted to fuck with fans but because their previous backstory would logically be impossible in the current year.
Even when they had Marge and Homer as young adults in the '90s they seemed to continue to show Homer's childhood as looking vaguely '60s, for example. That's still dumb but you're just supposed to roll with it I guess.
Except for the kids who've always had definite ages, seems everyone else is as old or young or a joke or whatever requires them to be.
>>83668292
they made him in the Navy in the Korean War I'm pretty sure, I remember seeing a commercial for it and was glad I stopped watching a long time ago
pretty soon Armin...I mean Skinner will have been a Gulf War vet
>Bart was now born in 2006
>Lisa was now born in 2008
>>83669026
They changed how Mr. Burns became rich.
He will always be a WWII vet, no matter how ridiculous it becomes.
Unless the show completely revamps the production crew, thats written in stone.
>>83671096
I'm pretty sure Skinner is a Gulf War vet now according to one of the new abomination episodes.
>>83670960
>Pretty soon The Simpsons Movie will be older than Bart
>>83671178
>Soon the show will be older than Homer and Marge
They retconed homer to being in a grunge band in the 90's
>>83671002
What was it before/how did it get changed?
This is one of the many reasons the show should have ended in the mid-90s
>>83672140
He originally was adopted by a rich man.
>>83668782
SimpSouls when?
>>83668292
But Armin is the Vietnam vet.
>>83669026
>Homer was about 5 during the late-60s, the time of the hippie era
>He was 18 in the early 70s since rock achieved perfection in that time
>still stayed 18 in the late 70s, the height of the disco era
>was roughly in his 20s in the 90s when he invented grunge
>>83671178
>the power of sliding timescale
>can pull past events forward, so that they happened exactly the same way but on a later date
>nothing you do with it can erase the present, you just keep selective aspects of the present in stasis and unable to resolve because they eternally just began yesterday
Man that sounds like something a stand could do.
>>83672223
But its peak was between 96 to 98
>>83669026
But that 90s episode had marge in college when its literally been a plot point in the past she never went to college
>>83671172
Seriously? That's some bullshit.
>>83671178
>>83673193
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kAMeHVzBA
In 2032 Bart will be 50 years old, and finally allowed to see the Itchy and Scratchy Movie.
I was going to post about something like this the other day. What's really got me sad is that Homer is never going to leave the plant.
>>83670960
>>83671178
>>83671472
>Some day you'll be older than Homer and Marge
Sliding time-scale with loose canon.
Majority of American Cartoons are like this. Only Anime really has progression.
>>83673896
>muh
>>83673954
No where I stated this was a negative. This is just how it is.
Ban your feelings.
>>83673896
>anime
Just stop acting like anime is a separate entity from cartoons. You can't just assume anime is only canonical series.
Go back to fapping to your body pillow already.
>>83674608
It is, diff rules. You wouldn't do Anime faces with tears in Simpsons and big robots.
Flintstones never change much while Dragonball progresses until it's over.
>>83674829
Or you could flip that on its side without dozens of difrent shows
>>83672390
>But Armin is the Vietnam vet.
Rectonned to Afghanistan/Iraq soon.
>>83673602
I miss when Bart was portrayed as smart enough to be a Supreme Court Justice.
>>83678229
I miss when Bart was portrayed as an actually intelligent kid who was just the victim of bad parenting and lazy education.
>>83668292
Actually, in an episode he claimed he was in WWI but 'had to lie about his age' (he was depicted as being a toddler) meaning he would have to be a centenarian.
>>83671172
Wiki still says 'nam but eh
>>83672290
Hopefully never, imagine what the current "fanbases" would produce.
>>83668292
He could still be in his 90s.
>>83668292
i'm not sure you've ever really listened to the things Mr Burns says, OP
he'd be a lot older than 104 if even half the references he made were accurate in the early 1990s
>>83671172
No.
>>83672390
He was 5 in 1969, when he was definitively at Woodstock; he was a young adult in 1980, when he left the Empire Strikes Back with Marge and spoiled it for the waiting patrons. He has variously given his age at the time of the show as 34, 39, 38, and 40, without anybody else's age changing.
>>83668869
Springfield is just Silent Hill for cartoon characters.
>>83670960
>Bart will soon have been born after Michael Jackson's death
>>83681887
>5 in 1969
If I remember correctly, in one gag they showed Homer listening happily to his records as a teenager while Abe was watching the moon landing, Live.
Homer was yopung in the '60, but how much is never written in stone.
So
>>83672232
Oh yeah, that was a "Citizen Kane" reference though.
Do cartoons still reference Citizen Kane?
It was a pretty common reference in cartoons once but I haven't seen one in a while.
>>83684135
When did Over the Hedge come out? That's been several years by now.
>May 19, 2006
>Just over 10 years
Yeah, okay. I also don't recall one happening for a while.
>>83673896
South Park, Simpsons and Family Guy are the only shows that still do this and that is because they debuted in the 90's/80's before continuity in cartoons was common
>>83668292
Why can't the characters just age, /co/?
Also, Mr Burns is 81 as of season 1/2.
>Born 1908/09 at the beginning, making him more than old enough to be in WW2.
>Now born in 1934/35, wasn't even ten before the war ended.
Fuck sliding timelines.
>>83682747
>>83684135
The references are way more on the nose now or straight up rip off disguised as parody
>>83671172
>>83676743
Skinner is still a Vietnam vet, but it's barely mentioned if at all.
>>83678229
>>83679899
>It's now unbelievable a kid with bad grades and an attitude problem can get through life, without being unemployable for any decently paying job.
>>83670960
>>83671178
>Soon the show will be 8550 years old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m78gYyTrG7Y
Do you think any part of Skinner being a Green Beret and Vietnam POW is still canon, or have they just dropped that out of his character entirely?
>>83678229
As someone who works with a lot of lawyers, a lot of them were Bart Simpsons when they were young. Smart kids get in a lot of trouble if they have confidence, curiosity and no fear of authority. One of the female partners is actually really good with a slingshot from growing up on a farm.
>>83684435
Mr Burns has been repeatedly recognized as Springfield's only 104 year old man. He's also claimed to have been born in 1880 - the oldest living person ever (verified) was 123 at the time of her death; the oldest living person currently was born a few months before the end of 1899 and is 116 years old. If Burn's claim about his birth (assuming his other claim of September 1890 was untrue) were accurate, it would mean that as of season 1 he had been 109 and by season 14 older than any person ever. The 1890 date isn't, technically, impossible - there probably isn't anybody of that birth year left, but there's no real reason that there couldn't be (though they probably wouldn't be going to work - then again neither are most 81 year olds). In "Rosebud" he's implied to be even older.
Abe Simpson has given his age as 85, which would mean he could only have served in WW2 if he lied about his age (as under 17s would not have been accepted). Plenty of people did lie about their age, and with the need for manpower he could easily have been a veteran of that war (though only the tail end of it, which is all that was ever claimed). If he were 90, he would have been conscripted in 1944, and would probably have served in Europe and possibly the Pacific.
The important thing to remember here is that whenever they need an age, or any other fact, to make a joke work or to base an episode around, they'll give it. And if they need to change it later, they will. This has always been the case; it's how every show works. Nobody wants to get halfway through season 2 and have to go to the producers and say "well the problem is..." because that's the point at which you're going to get laughed out of the office, the parking lot, and your writing career.
tl;dr Mr Burns is comically old; Abe Simpson is older than half of American old people ever get to be (by 10 years as of 1990, by 7 years as of 2015), but the actual numbers don't matter, just the "old"
>>83686362
>In "Rosebud" he's implied to be even older.
Just to clarify this, the opening of Citizen Kane is set in 1871, when Kane is already about seven or eight years old (or maybe older). Since "Rosebud" is a slavish parody of Citizen Kane, a lot of the imagery bleeds through and, if we took it as read, then in 1994 Mr. Burns would be implied to be in his 120s already. However the motor car he gets into is from a much later era (probably 50 years later), so that doesn't work either because then he'd be younger than Abe Simpson by more than a decade.
On top of that we have the problem of Burns' own car; in addition to his 1936 Bearcat, he's also been seen driving a 1896-1901 Ford Quadricycle. Because he's old and it's funny to have him drive something old and say funny words. But again, if we took that seriously, because of autism or something, then he'd probably have been born prior to 1880 (unless he was an idiot, because there's no reason anybody would buy one of those after the production run ended).
>the writers want Edna to be remembered as Flanders true love and not Skinner's
>>83687070
>Flanders's has been JUSTed twice now
>>83681567
Memes?
>>83670960
>one day you'll be as old as Abe and your fashion style will be as weird to the new generations as tying an onion to your belt is to us
>>83668292
Well my grandpa turned 18 during the war and served in the navy, and he would be 91 now.
>>83671002
Is there really a story for that? in one episode he claimed to get rich by inheriting and killing all his relatives but I'm sure the story changes every time the subject is brought up, like Marge and Homer's wedding
>>83684418
I can't name any other show. King of the hill don't count.
Neither does cartoons aimed for kids or hipsters.
A cartoon would have to have progression in ages and character development.
>>83687070
>Skinner's mom and lover both fucked the Comic Book Guy who now has a waifu
Jesus, who's writing for him now?
Where the fuck im i
>>83689285
Maybe Bob's Burgers so lets just say Foxtoons
>>83668869
>overthinking this much about a fucking cartoon about yellow people
>>83673896
>What is Doraemon?
>What is Sailor Moon?
>What is Detective Connan?
>What is Crayon Shin Chan?
Come on anon, there´s anime who just don´t care from where they started and go with the time
>>83668718
>>83668782
Simpsons have this weird mix of 1980s slice of life and modern tech.
>>83684135
>Do cartoons still reference Citizen Kane?
No because "CK references" are jokes.
Citizen Kane is a boring movie about Democratics vs Republicans and people only care because orson welles; since 1941 everybody know the opening scene but nobody watched the complete movie.
That´s the joke
>>83689792
None of those count.
>>83689792
>>83689792
Also worth mentioning, Hajiume No Hippo.
Takamura was noted as being born in 1969, yet he fought against Brian hawk in the year 200X while still being in his 20's.
>>83690128
Just admit you were wrong.
>>83690080
>implying orson welles himself is not the actual joke
dude was to paranoid
>>83690394
If you gonna do Orson Well jokes I'll rather do them about his work in commercials
>>83692238
-And remember, there is no fish stick like Mrs. Pell's.
-This isn't a commercial.
-I know, that was just a declaration of love.
>>83690347
Actually, Morikawa has been pretty good about keeping it in the 90's. Hang on, I'll post the timeline
>>83694267
>>83686362
He owned stock in Confederated Slave Holdings and still believed it be an active company
>>83685500
Canon to me.
>>83693199
Mwahua champagne has always been regarded for its excellence...
