Continuing from: >>83580565
No new episodes until The Music Hole on June, 23.
Post anything related to the show.
So, do you guys think all the kingdoms of Ooo are similar to Candy Kingdom in that they are capitalistic monarchies with a single utilitarian ruler?
>>83658298
I mean, we saw Slime Kingdom and Flame Kingdom, and I guess they'd be that?
Though I'm sure PB's the only one who takes it too a major level.
So LSP on drums, PB on guitar, Marcy on base, Peppermint Butler on keyboards.
That's what I think will be the mand for The Music Hole.
>>83659087
*band
Since anon didn't post this:
Daddy Daughter Card Wars will air on July 7th
>A follow-up to Finn and Jake’s epic card game of 2012 with an all new episode where Jake needs his daughter Charlie’s help to win a top-tier Card Wars doubles tournament against a longtime rival.
And some Season 8 info:
>Season 8 is scheduled to premiere later this year and will follow Finn and Jake to unchartered lands as they seek to answer one of the show’s biggest mysteries, and save all of Ooo from a powerful new threat.
http://www.awn.com/news/cn-expands-adventure-time-franchise-multi-platform-card-wars-sequel?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
>>83659201
> a powerful new threat
> new
RIP, Lich, we'll never see you again.
What do you all think the height ranges, or heights are for characters in AT? Is Marceline like 6'2, cause Finn looks like a total manlet.
I only care about this show for waifus
>>83659362
In the dead mountain episode Finn first says he would wish to be as tall as PB. When he actually makes a wish, he words it as "approximately 11.5 inches taller". So, PB is 11.5 inches (30 cm) higher than Finn.
When they are on one screen, Finn is one head shorter than PB, and she's usually drawn as a 6-head tall figure. That makes PB ~180 cm and Finn ~150 cm. Marceline is slightly taller than PB, so that's around 185 cm.
>>83659087
I don't know if PB can play the guitar, I want PB on the mix!
Synopsis:
>Finn hears a mysterious song while judging a Battle of the Bands.
>>83659928
>cm
In American, motherfucker! Feet and Inches!
>>83660056
But educated Americans like engineers or scientists use metric. Are you a redneck, anon?
>>83660105
No, I just want feet and inches.
>>83659940
So Finn doesn't get to sing? That's ass.
>>83659928
>I'm as tall as Marcy
Well now I feel like a manlet
>>83660268
Hey, at least you're her height. I'm fucking shorter (not by a whole lot, though)
Does AT even need a general?
>>83660567
I'd prefer this over the shitty star vs evil generals. There's 2 or 3 of those trap threads everyday.
>>83659367
Too bad the best one is dead.
>>83660160
Well Olivia did say Marceline is gonna sing, She also implied PB will sing with her.
>>83660567
It's hardly a general, right? There's just stuff people are discussing, I guess.
>>83661601
She dead?
>>83661632
I mean Finn's VA has an actual band and a musical career like Marceline's VA. I guess he doesn't have the skills to hack it/fanbase would rather hear Marcy sing.
>>83661833
Well, she was left for dead in the middle of a desert without any water, transport or means of navigation. Good luck with that.
>>83662019
which episode?
>>83662478
S06E14 - Princess Day.
In general, would you prefer to have a heavier focus on plot progression or more separate adventures and plots(not about adding more characters, just new places and adventures)? Just curious.
>>83663939
Seperate adventures have a much more open feel to them, but one big plot focused adventure could be neat, if it actually goes places. I suppose it'd be like an anime, with the occasional filler episode, but it would be neat if they focused on a singular plot.
>>83663939
Meh, I would rather have no plot progression at all. Just a bunch of random adventures that maybe shape characters without existing only for that.
>>83665014
I definitely would like to see a return to this style, similar to season 1 if my memory isn't horrible.
>>83663939
I don't care if one or another, they have to stick with that decision in mind rather than being in the uninspiring mixed phase the show is in right now. They showed that they don't really care about heavy plot-focused episodes with an overarching narrative, since they either pretend to forget about it in the long run or they kill any sign of development with disappointing season finales. At least go full on separate adventures and mini-plots in a fashion of the former seasons.
>>83665125
>decision
*direction
Lines in!
>>83665419
Dabble stahp
>>83663939
I would be really happy if they perhaps did all three. Finales in big episode slews of 3-5 like Stakes, 2-3 episodes of single plot lines, and regular one episode adventures.
>>83660160
Jake said Finn is 5ft. Finn hasn't grown since his debut so let's just assume he is 5ft, and Bonnibel is 5'11"
>>83665419
hnngg
>>83659940
Where did you get this screenshot? Also source for the synopsis?
>>83665759
Debut as in beginning of the series or debut in some other way? Cause he's physically grown throughout the seasons.
>>83665832
No he hasn't. At least not consistently. In episodes like "Pajama Wars" he is Bonnibels height, but now they have him animated shorter than her. Finn looks identical to his debut.
>>83663939
Regardless, I want some good Finn character development.
>>83665881
There is always inconsistency because of retarded storyboarders but compared to the beginning of the show to now he has grown. To say he hasn't means you need to go back and rewatch Season 1 and rewatch Season 7.
>>83665828
The screenshot is actually from Breezy that aired ages ago.Also notice mr. Cream Puff hitting on his ex.
>>83665922
I have actually. Began rewatching the series and am on season 2. I've seen every episode, albeit some episodes I've seen only once, so my memory of them has faded. Which is why I'm rewatching them. Finn hasn't changed in appearance at all. still has blonde hair. His hair has been seen longer and shorter from the times he's cut it. But I don't really count that as a change. His arm technically isnt his, it's the grass sword. But Finn looks pretty much identical. How has Finn changed since season 1? Appearance wise.
>>83665922
The calculations in >>83659928 are based on "Don't Look" and "Thin Yellow Line" episodes yet give the same 5 ft result.
> In episodes like "Pajama Wars" he is Bonnibels height
He is noticeably shorter than her even in "Pajama Wars". Although it's way closer than usual, maybe because of the storyboarders, amybe because she's not wearing heels in the episode.
>>83666020
Hmm, actually looking back now it seems you're correct. Perhaps it's the inconsistency of the storyboarders where I viewed where he would be taller than others. If that's the case then that's even more retarded and shows that even though they keep his age Finn is literally destined to be a midget.
>>83665828
http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/adventure-time/tv-listings/304498
>>83665922
In Pajama War they make Finn taller just to make them shippable, PB looks 14.
>>83666376
made*
>>83666376
That episode is beloved by so many Fubblefags. A shame such an episode will never happen again.
>>83666222
I mean its great that we have an episode where we get music. But wheres Jake? I hate how we dont focus on Jake enough like we used to.
>>83666556
It was a nice episode, but it's kind of retard that to make the ship works they need to make PB 13 or randomly change her appearance, ,
>>83659928
Isn't Marceline usually drawn as shorter than PB though?
Bumping for ice queen and marceline.
>>83663939
I'd like a constant plot if they could do it without failure (they can't). This season finale plot lurch bullshit is ridiculous. It won't work on me anymore, fucker.
>>83665922
I think the ratio of storyboarders who draw Finn a little taller vs. those who don't...has increased? jmoyns I know has drawn the tallest teen-lookin Finn for many seasons. But there are still dudes who draw him as baby short n' squat, so that suggests the "change" is an unofficial, personal choice.
That is, if it's not completely unintentional. He can change height drastically within the SAME EPISODE. All the characters can. Because the boarding is shit. Ahem, I mean rustic.
>>83666556
How desperate you gotta be to want more of that? It was fake and contrived by a shipfag writer.
Shipb8y episodes that go against the usual narrative and give false hope should be banned. Just tells you how out of control the writing on this show is.
>>83669595sarcasm
Alright, it's finally done!
>>83669859
sorryit could totally happen again.
>>83670044
Doing God's work Dabble <3
>>83670044
duh dammnnn
>>83670044
based anon
>>83659239
Man who even cares, he's been brought back so many times he's boring at this point.
Him staying as a baby would be a decent conclusion to his character since they've established he can't actually get killed, so instead they just put him in a impotent and harmless form.
But the show made Lich into the final boss (even though he's showed up like 6 damn times) so you can bet your ass he's coming back in the last season or the movie. Hell, the new threat they're talking about may just be the Lich in a new form or something.
>>83671473
Let's not forget about Orgalord. Although he isn't really "new." Maybe the new theat is one of the deities like the Lich before time. Lich and Orgalord have existed before time.
>>83671692
The Lich hasn't, he's been around since the Mushroom War. The comet he spawned from is probably some million years old, he just seems to know about the time before time.
Also, I think Orgalorg is pretty much done for by now. He'll probably stay as Gunther for at least a couple more million years.
>>83671792
"Before their was time, there was nothing. And before there was nothing, there were monsters." I guess you could say he was a cosmic entity, reincarnated as the Lich, after the Mushroom War. I didn't say Orgalord, but rather the monsters that existed with him. That is a possibility. They brought back the Lich multiple times now, who's to say that Orgalord doesn't come out again? I'm pretty sure most of us thought that the Lich would stay as the snail.
>>83671982
Aren't the comets confirmed to be the "first lives" of the Finn and the Lich and whatnot? Though, they are comets, who knows how old they were when they hit the Earth
I dunno about the Snail, I kind of thought he'd return when I first saw the Snail's face in Mortal Recoil, it felt like it was going to build up to something
>>83672062
Exactly, I'm not saying it's definite that Orgalord will return, but it can't be ignored as a possibility. Though I feel it would make sense if not him another deity. You really anticipated something for two whole seasons? I completely forgot about him.
>>83672156
I'd like to retract my statement on Orgalord, he isn't new, so there's still a good chance he may stay as Gunter
>>83666556
>>83669595
fug u m8s
>>83670044
oh geez
>>83668526
Floating makes her taller. PB is taller than Marcy by an inch. I bet it actually annoys Marceline which is why he floats.
>>83672670
maybe once he is older and fully understands the situation i could get behind it
right now it's an ancient witch taking advantage of a poor kid who doesn't know shit from shit
>>83670044
Have you drawn Susan Strong yet?
>>83672992
Probably not enough
I have not been keeping up with this show ever since flame Princess was introduced.
What happened to the lich king?
Who won the finn bowl if anyone has yet?
Was anything ever touched on Ice Kings past?
Post songs you enjoyed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNnfuvC1LlU
This really made Stakes feel concluded for meeven though everything being back to normal felt like a cop-out.
>>83673869
>What happened to the lich king?
Turned into a baby. Sidelined until further notice
>>83673869
>Who won the finn bowl if anyone has yet?
Nobody. FP friendzoned him and Marceline and PB are "close" friends again.
Wonder how Lady feels about being sidelined by the vamp.
>Was anything ever touched on Ice Kings past?
Past? Other than him trying to bang the Empress Vampire and flashbacks of him hanging with Marceline as a kid, no I don't think so. There's Betty, but that's another can of beans.
>>83673869
Lich came up a few more times to fuck shit up, right now he's on standby in a baby.
Finn has horrific times and a few flings and right now he's flying solo. Who will be endgame is anyone's guess but there's a good chance it will be a rando or no one.
Decent bit of stuff has happened with Ice King, namely his fiance coming back via time travel. Wacky stuff on that end.
You gonna get back into it?
>>83673869
>What happened to the lich king?
Defeated by turning him into a living being, he's now a giant child-like creature living with Treetrunks, but it's shown that he still has some of his powers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2k7Jf9xO3g
However, there's also alt universe, Farm World Lich King, that grew from Jake's body, who got destroyed, but had an arm cut off that ended up spread across the multiverse.
>Who won the finn bowl if anyone has yet?
Huntress Wizard got the closest, but no one has "won" it, yet.
>Was anything ever touched on Ice Kings past?
Betty's back due to time travel, but crazy due to taking Magic Man's powers, but now a virtual copy of her is inside IK's crown/mind.
>>83674054
>Wonder how Lady feels about being sidelined by the vamp.
She interacted with Bubblegum a grand three times at best even before the show went hardcore Bubbline so I think Lady's used to being neglected by her ostensibly best friend.
>>83674074
Eh I'm not too sure.
maybe one of these days when its finished and i have the time and interest in it again.
>>83674094
So is Ice king a little bit more sane?
does he remember what his past was and that the crown is the reason he's so batty?
>>83673335
>Dabble catering to BBW fetishes.
>>83674268
Isn't it closer to muscle fetish?
>>83674098
I wonder why their relationship was never really part of the show. Seemed important in the pitchbook. It's like Lady is owned by Jake and couldn't be owned by PB at the same time.
>>83674238
Ice King is senile. It seems like it is irreparable. I'll answer your questions as thoroughly I can.
>>83674238
nothing we learn about his past will change him in the present.
that's just how it goes on this show.
>>83674332
Maybe if it were Muscle princess. Albeit both may work.
>>83674238
No, so far, they haven't actually shown if he's changed due to her being there.
>>83674383
Now Lady's owned by her kids. Poor gal.
I guess the language barrier was such a big deal that she could only be toted out every once in a bit, but even then they could just have subs.
>>83670044
Is there any sexy art of Bubblegum and Rainicorn together? Like Lady Godiva.
>>83674712
>>83674515
i didn't see that special Lady episode recently, was it any good?
>>83673869
Flame Princess was introduced in the season 3 finale cliff-hanger. So I will have to cover a lot on the Lich, whom is no longer refered to as the Lich King. After the events of "In Your Footsteps," the snail under the Lich's control manipulates a bear to somehow obtain and give him the Enchiridion. In the titular episode "The Lich," or the finale cliff-hanger of season 4, he uses Billy's corpse, who died presumably died of age, to deceive Finn and Jake into getting him the gems to power the Enchiridion and create a portal to every dimension. He attempts to exterminate life, but his plans are foiled by Finn and Jake. He remains in the Time Room, which is where he is stuck. The Time Room is a place where people can recieve one wish. In the season 6 premiere "Wake Up," Finn and Jake bring the wish granter, Prismo, his mortal body.
The Lich seizes this opportunity to kill him. After killing Prismo, which is a cosmic crime, he is sent to the Citadel. The Lich escapes, and Finn and Jake defeat him by using the blood from the guards, which has healing powers. This transforms the Lich into a humanoid child. He is harmless, but can be seen to still possess Lich properties seen in "Gold Star," a season 7 episode. I skipped over a lot of key plot elements, but you wanted just Lich relavent information. I recommend toughing it out on season 6 the show gets far enjoyable in season 7.
>>83674841
Lady Ranicorn and the Crystal Dimension? Good but nothing special really.
>>83675050
>read summary
she really can't escape her kids huh. even though Jake totally did.
>>83674699
so generous
>>83674712
>>83673869
I'll get to the "Finn Bowl" later. Holy fuck anon you've been gone for four years, there is so much to cover. Ice King, as stated in the season 2 finale "Holly Jolly secrets," is Simon Petrikov. An antiquarian in Scandinavia at the time. After buying the crown, wearing it as a joke, he progressively went insane. Season (6?) episode "Betty," explains that Betty left Simon because a time portal opened up that showed Simon's future self, cured due an antimagic accident at the beggining of the episode. Back to the Simon that went insane, he took off the crown and saw Betty gone. Some time after the the Mushroom War occured, sending mutants in Oo that we see today. Princess Bubblegum becomes sentient from a mass of candy around this time. Marceline is involved a lot, so I will bring her up as well. Marceline was born a demon-human hybrid, after the war started, she lost her mother. Simon found her, and took care of her. Simon had to use his crown to protect her, he knew inevitably he would lose his memory and sanity, so he left todler Marceline so she would be safe from him. Marceline's only friend now was Hambo, which was given to her when Simon met her. Marceline somehow reunited with her father around her adolescence, and left him because he ate her fries. Although that doesn't seem as big of a deal, it is explained through the full version of the Fry Song that was cut. That's enough Marceline, I feel you should watch the show for her backstory. Insane Ice King stayed so, in the Kingdom her created with Gunter. More on Gunter's backstory if requested, just know he is the oldest penguin. Ice King doesn't remember anything, but he does now know what it means to have friends. He behaves, and is social with Marceline after he made up with her in "I Remember You,"(season 4) I heavily recommend watching that episode.
>>83675764
Ice King's crown has been owned by many, first by a wizard known as Evergreen. Anyone that wears the crown becomes imprisoned inside the crown stuck in a labyrinth. Simon is found in there, but he appears to be stuck inside. Watch "Broke His Crown"(season 7) for this.
>>83675764
woah woah, nigga. break that shit up into paragraphs next time you post
Alright faggots I want Finnsmut (alone or with grills I don't care)
Recommend me image ideas pls
>>83675525
will he ever get better?
>>83676025
This with Finn.
>>83676025
>Recommend me image ideas
MAKE IT GAYER
>>83676061
It's been 4 years, so...........
>>83676085
I should have said recommend artists (who don't charge up the ass) too
>>83676025
you mean gay shit, super gay shit, or surprisingly not gay shit at all, because with Finn I commonly see variants of the first two
>>83673869
Finn has dated Flame Princess, but after the events of "Frost and Fire,"(season 5) she breaks up with him, for offending her. They do not officially make up until season 7's "Bun Bun," They do however interact in previous episodes, but they never fully became friends again. Bonnibel rejected Finn in the last episode you saw, Finn tried to get back with Bonnibel in season 5, but she doesn't show any interest in him. Finn stopped showing these emotions, and talked with other females. In "Pajama Wars," Finn and Bonnibel are shown to hang out together as pals, and Finn sees her as such evident in the episode "Dont Look," where his magic eyes transform people into how HE sees them. This turns her into a male, at least appearance wise. The topic of Finn being "gay" is dismissable, because Finn has never shown any infatuation to another male ever. Finn assist Bonnibel when shr needs help managing her kingdom. No one has "won" Finn, yet. I've given up on that, but the closest official winner would be Roselyn; they married, had a family, and death was what separated them. This however was an alternate reality. Watch "Puhoy" season 5 for this. I'm more focused on Bubbline, because now it seems like one of the more likely ships to happen.
>>83676152
what dude are people even shipping him with? AU Ice Finn?
>>83676152
I said women, anon.also where do you find those variants?
>>83676025
How come no one ships Finn and Jake? They live together, who knows, maybe they have even practiced with eachother.
>>83676221
If we're talking about tumblr then Jake, Marshall Lee and Ice Finn
Kid is a pussy pounder for life no amount of social pressure will make him go for dick
>>83676279
People do.
And it's weird.
>>83676279
nobody likes Jake lewd
>>83676314
Eh I think it's something to look into. Remember when Jake was trying to seduce him in "Slow Love"? Either way Jake most definitely is the seme.
>>83676281
desperation could do it. he wouldn't be a bonafide homosexual but still. I think he could have a bromance with a dude if doing so would get him the love and affection he sorely needs.
not that i don't want him to have the woman of his choice. but boy howdy the writers sure don't like that idea.
>>83676281
Probably the only thing I agree with Tumblr. Marshall Lee and Finn?
>not Gumball and Lee
tumblr confirmed shit taste
>>83676279
some people do and everyone rightfully thinks they're weirdos.
if Jake was more of a furry looking guy then that pairing would be a whole lot popular.
>>83676441
Well if we're talking about Finn then Marshall is in there. MarshallxGumball is very more popular there still though
>>83676465
but.
he can turn into anything. even a princess. is it so important he looks anthro 100% of the time?
>>83676465
Jake is already anthropomorphic, he walks on his hind legs, his front limbs resemble arms, he doesn't exactly look like how a dog should.
>>83676512
Have any yaoi of them?
>>83676421
Finn isn't showing any attraction to any females. He hasn't shown any for males, but that doesn't mean he won't eventually out if desperation. He is still human, and he still will possess the sex animal inside him that caused his species to flourish.
>>83676551
he's still too far into cute doggy territory I guess. that's why sexualizing him is weird.
even though the series itself makes it clear he's a total pervert. if any AT character is for sexual, it's Jake.
>>83676551
I think in the show his arms are still paws, he can just grasp stuff because cartoon logic.
Other than being yellow and his stretchy stuff Jake is a pretty normal looking English bulldog dude.
>>83676631
I'm sure Jake has molested Finn, at least once. He is so naive it would be too easy.
>>83676657
>>83676623
>Finn isn't showing any attraction to any females
Yeah, Finn isn't very good at being straight. Not attracted to Susan, or Canyon, or any raw displays of the female form like that.
It's almost like he's attracted to ideas. Concepts or power and dominance.
This is all a result of censorship most likely, but. Kid's a weirdo.
>>83676703
Just color that guy gold, give him funky looking eyes and take away about 90% of the detail and that's Jake.
>>83676623
>Finn isn't showing any attraction to any females. He hasn't shown any for males, but that doesn't mean he won't eventually out if desperation.
So you have to constantly have you dick in a girl or you're gay?
>>83676623
>>83676727
>Finn isn't showing any attraction to any females.
?????
All this speculation on Finn being with another male, has been making me think about the argument that Finn IS gay because of how he sees Bonnibel in "Don't Look." Finn apparetly is into men, because he is attracted to her, and she transforms into a boy. That doesn't make sense. If he was attracted to Bonnibel, she would still be female, not male. If Finn was gay, he wouldn't be attracted to Bonnibel. Finn being bisexual, or pansexualfuck you tumblr, would still not result in what happened. Why would Finn be attracted to Bonnibel, is he was gay? She is female. If he is attracted to both, or gender is irrelavent, why would her gender change?
>>83676778
Not at the moment. Friendzoned by all of them.
>>83676767
>>83676778
This guy pretty much has the idea I had. He isn't exactly straight when you see him. In Breezy, he doesn't even seem "into it".
>>83676727
>>83676729
Should we add the anthropomorphism?
>>83676912
>in Breezy, he doesn't even seem "into it".
In addition to the horrible trauma of that situation, his apathy there could be explained by how those girls were freaky blobs and monsters. Who is really surprised?
But I'm sure there's a nice village girl with a nice rack somewhere?
Basically all Finn's dick ever does it lead him to the awful women he can't attain, while nice, attainable women pass him by.
>>83677023
btw he has gorgeous water nymphs living literally feet from his bedroom
what a fag
>>83676846
pansexualfuck you tumblr
Forgot to hit the checkbox
>>83676279
>How come no one ships Finn and Jake
http://ra4s.tumblr.com/post/145736864497/
>>83676912
>>83676846
I cannot comprehend how you people got to that conclusion. I'd say y'all taking your headcanons too far, but believe what you want to.
Adventure Timeanime game is best.
>>83677062
Sheesh that's a lot of porn. I don't go on tumblr, so I didn't know anyone actually ships them. The only place I actually discuss and share about adventure time is right here on /co/. We don't ship Finn and Jake here on /co/ for some reason, so I thought no one did.
>>83677156
>>83676846
I'm sure they were just trying to say she's a friend now and nothing more.
Is that horseshit though? yeah probably. this is one issue the writers have never agreed on.
>>83677103
Are you refering to my confusion of the "Don't Look" Finn confirmed gay argument? It doesn't seem like it; you aren't answering any of my question, nor are you contradicting my argument. I'm just shipping Finn and Jake for the fun of it. Mindless shipping, we all know it will not happen in the show.
>>83676846
What >>83677241 said. I thought the shorts and backwards cap were obviously meant to portray PB as a 'cool friend' stereotype.
>>83677293
>mindless shipping
well. I guess I'll step into the loony bin along with you guys if that's the case.
>>83677103
i don't think he's gay, but his sexuality is weirdly ambiguous to me. it's been shaped by kiddie censorship. he's not as much swayed by a woman's body, but rather more obscure, emotional qualities. slutty and/or scantily clad girls do nothing for him.
>>83677416
maybe he wants someone whose strong or badass because Joshua was like that and baby Finn's weird libido internalized that as attractive so now that's the only thing that gets his pecker going, Oedipus style shit.
Finn did seem to look up to Josh and use his dad's adventuring, sword fighting ways as an example
>>83677241
Exactly you see my point. The writers to just trying to imply that Finn was now pals with Bonnibel. I'm just in awe at this sudden realization. I have always insisted that Finn sees Bonnibel as a friend, but now that I actually looked into THEIR argument, instead of perfecting mine, I see now this this common argument is a sham. Finn isn't gay, at least the episode "Don't Look" didn't confirm that. Finn isn't attracted to Bonnibel either. If he was straight and attracted to PB, she would not turn into a male. If Finn was gay, he would not be attracted to PB, and she would not turn into a teenboy heartthrob. Finn sees her a bro. If Finn was bisexual or pan, why would her gender change?
>>83677485
now anon you know nothing is solid with the writers anymore
>>83677618
It's not the writers that made this argument. If anything the writers are completely coherent. Finn and PB are shown to hang out as friends in "Pajama War," just like he had with Phoebe in "Bun Bun," this topic that Finn and Bonnibel is further proven true in the episode "Don't Look," where Finn undoubtedly sees her as a bro.
>>83677480
yeah that was my thought too. his dad was too tough on him and made him feel bad, so he has a dominance fetish to ease the hurt. guys who idolize toughness often have daddy issues (and are ripe to be seduced by other men).
I hate to analyze Finn like that. He's supposed to be an innocent happy confident boy. but whatever. why not make him more broken, everybody's doin it.
>>83677485
kek, that just makes him seem more gay that he could give her up like that.
>>83677765
Give her up like what?
>>83677765
How so?
>>83677794
give up on love and be friends forever. that's very very hard because everytime you see her, she's still turning you on.
Finn slowly losing interest in Bonnibel was mutual. It isn't hard on him anymore like it was in "Incedium." You're implying that Finn still shows romantic infatuation towards Bonnibel. Finn hasn't exactly given up on love. He would have dated Huntress Wizard if it weren't for her reasons.
>>83677710
we're working with what the show tells us now, and one of the major things about late season Finn is that the boy has fucking issues.
even so he's managing to be decently happy when the world isn't jamming his mouth open and shitting down it.
>>83677937
was meant to reply to >>83677860
>>83677937
>>83677986
I could believe it better if Finn had developed more. Then you could say well, Bubblegum's not his type anymore, this makes sense.
But he's still in the same role he ever was, so it's not that believable to me. It's more like he got hit over the head with a newspaper over and over until he finally stopped humping her leg.
I wish we knew a little more about why he's into the girls he's into. It's not like Bubblegum's a good friend or anything, or even a nice person. She doesn't care about him.
>>83678122
>she doesn't care about Finn and Jake
So I'm guessing you never seen "Lady and Peebles. Or Mortal Recoil where she exclusively said,"I care about you."
>>83678122
Watch the entire series. Bonnibel doesn't like Finn romantically. She sees him as her hero, and she can't stat mad at him. She sees Finn as a friend, and knows he will always be there to help her; Finn swears to help anyone in need. Finn had to accept this, and he has. He attempted to start hitting on her, but completely thwarted his attempts by the end of season 5. In the same episode where he officially gives up, the duo are friends. Finn realizes it's better for them to be friends. That's why he isn't emotionally hurt like he was in Incendium. This topic spands over multiple season, its not this false generalization you're making it out to be.
>>83676281
>Marshall Lee
Genius. Finn can only see how sexy Marcy is when she's a guy.
>>83678314
>>83678398
You'll see....
all we have to do is play the waiting game.
>>83678398
>Bonnibel doesn't like Finn romantically
She used to. That's why they end up together at the end of season 2.
>Finn realizes it's better for them to be friends. That's why he isn't emotionally hurt like he was in Incendium.
I know this is what they want us to believe, but I think it's pretty unrealistic that he's really over that pain.
But if they stick to it until the very end and don't reship them at the last second, aight. Although I'll wonder why he couldn't find any better friends than her.
>>83678314
That was a very different Peebles from the one we have today.
Funny enough, those episodes you mention were written by Rebecca Sugar. She loved to show PB acting tenderly towards Finn. Until she decided their relationship was toxic and blew that ship to kingdom come in favor of her new creation, Flame Princess.
>>83678503
If anything the game is over as of "Don't Look," because its undeniable Finn sees her as a bro.
>>83678761
Anything done can be undone. Never trust them anon.
>>83678574
>used to
I'm talking about now. Bonnibel only showed signs that she was interested in Finn in "Too Young," and the moment she was 18 its back to responsibility. Even when she lost her responsibility, and was living in the shack, she didn't make a move on Finn. So where's your argument for that? That "pain," was only seen in season 3 "Incendiun," Jesus Christ Finn isn't going to wallow around for 4 seasons, people get over things, accept it. They're not going to get back together,"Don't Look" pretty much confirms that. Finn sees PB as a bro or friend. Stop pushing this Fubblegum ship; Finn and Bonnibel don't show romantic interest anymore.
>>83678825
>being this far in denial
I seriosuly doubt that Finn and Bonnibel are going to go out; we have already finished their arc. They are friends now. Your logic makes no sense, and relies on hope rather than evidence and logic.
>>83678879
I hate the ship, but I'm not under the delusion that this show never backtracks or contradicts itself.
All I know is PB takes up way too much damn airtime and I wish she would go the fuck away.
>>83678651
Bonnibel is the same as she was when she debuted. Her personality is the same since season 1. You guys just love to potray the nuBonnibel meme, but ignore the fact that she is just as crazy as she was since season 1. In "The Duke," how is her ignoring the just rebuttal and rather having him imprisoned forver different than how you guys are trying to make her out to be. How is willing to beat and torture the Ice King any different than your "nuBonnibel" meme? Who storyboarded the episode is irrelavent; she is still in character throughout the entire series. Bonnibel has always cared about Finn. Name one episode where she hated Finn, and treated him like dirt? Rejecting him in Incendium doesn't count.
>>83678939
She's a major character it's not like she is irrelavent like Shelby. The show uses her fine, she isn't a major part of every single episode. What is even wrong with Bonnibel being a major character?
>>83678838
Yeah, I know she isn't interested in him anymore. She's changed. But she's changed more than he has, that's the problem I have with it.
>Finn isn't going to wallow around for 4 seasons
Finn loves wallowing. More episodes moaning about FP than dating her, damn was that annoying.
Theoretically, his failures with PB would be even more serious to him, because he's loved her for many years and sees her pretty much every day.
>>83679067
You make no sense anon. Finn has gone through SO MUCH character development. I dont even know where to start. You make no sense anon. You want for Finn to be miserable on his rejection with Bonnibel, but complain about him wallowing about Flame Princess. Give me 5 episodes the exclusively are about Finn being in pain from breaking up with Flame Princess.
>theoretically
theoretically nothing. I already expained why Finn's failure to become PB's love interest isn't a burden, and you have done nothing to contradict it. They've both changed, EVERY MAJOR CHARACTER HAS. Stop cherrypicking.
>>83679194
>SO MUCH character development
shittily developed development, that is aka one of the reasons people NOPE'd out of the show in the first place
>>83678993
The fact that you remember The Duke but still don't think she's a different character now is confusing. That type of wacky craziness is gone. Her craziness is super serial now. It's a tone thing. I think nuBubblegum is more likely to commit an atrocity than the one old.
I don't totally think you're wrong though.
>>83679194
>Finn has gone through SO MUCH character development.
his development was to lose his zest for life and get all apathetic and navelgazing, stop caring about what he used to care about. but that isn't connected to any particular event, it just kinda happened after many depressing life events. he didn't learn or improve.
>>83679279
I don't think she's a different character as to how you guys are potraying her. I've began rewatching the series and she still the normal level of crazy. It wasn't all for satire, it was her personality. It's not for a joke like her saying "Shut up," to Jake at the end of "Burning Low." Her "craziness" is just her ambition and determination. Her spying on her citizens, destroying the predecessors to the Banana Guards, it's all for the same reason on beating up the Ice King, for something her didn't intentionally do. The reason being she will do anything to ensure the safety and well being for her citizens. It's all for the same reason on why she weakened the Flame People so she could steal the ancient fire elementals. She even said why she had to be prepared in Varmints to Marceline. That, anon is why I can say she hasn't changed into some monster. It's not confusing you're trying to make her seem like a bad person.
>>83679194
>I already expained why Finn's failure to become PB's love interest isn't a burden, and you have done nothing to contradict it.
Well yes, because the show agrees with you. They don't want it to be a problem either. It's just my opinion that the state of things is dumb.
>>83679454
>"Burning Low."
anything after season 3 is nuBubblegum if you ask me. The silly funny version I liked is seasons 1-3.
>>83679274
>>83679279
>Finn's character development is shitty
How about the fact that Finn is more mature? He apologized to Phoebe realizing why he was in the wrong. How about in "Pajama Wars," where he can act like a friend to Bonnibel, and NOT act weird? Before he ruined the moment, like in "Too Old." Finn doesn't get depressed after being rejected, he rubs it in and stands up like a man. In "Flute Spell," he doesn't whine when HW says they can't be together. How about that Finn faces his fears? He used to be scared of clowns and the ocean, but has gotten over them. Finn and Ice King? Finn knows Ice King is senile and once was a sane charismatic person, he treats him as such. He doesn't assume Ice King is out to do evil anymore.
>>83663939
Do it like Ghost in the Shell SAC; have some episodes that focus on moving forward a central plot, with additional episodes that don't touch on the main story but serve to establish and add depth to the characters and world, as well as providing the writers with more creative freedom.
>>83679549
>my opinion is fact
>>83679631
that guy was literally saying his opinion is his opinion dude
>>83679464
>the show agrees with me
The writers are logical and coherent. Stop shitting on their work. If the current state of things bothers you so much leave. No one wants someone that's just going to bitch about everthing, and hold onto their negative views after being proven to be mistaken.
>>83679464
>they don't want it to be a problem
That's because it doesn't have to be. You're just upset Finn and PB aren't going to go out. You can't accept change.
>>83679671
Yes now he is. Before he was trying to contradict my argument. Now that he is proven wrong he is just saying its his opinion, because he doesn't have anything to back it up.
>>83679549
Give some examples
>>83679274
What shitty developement?
>>83679691
>The writers are logical and coherent. Stop shitting on their work.
no
>>83679340
You're confusing childish with enthusiasm. He is more mature. Finn always has cared about helping others. When has Finn wanted to hurt others, and stop believing in being a hero?
>>83679715
>You're just upset Finn and PB aren't going to go out.
No, I don't like the ship, I already said that. I don't even like them as "friends". The chemistry is nonexistent and it's boring.
>>83679909
How is it nonexistent and boring?
>>83679882
>not providing an explanation
might as well cover your ears with your hands and shake your head shouting noises.
>>83663939
Plot Progression with inconsequential episodes thrown into the mix.
>>83679929
Because PB is a no-fun joyless science ho. Finn needs someone who will take him on adventures for fun, not just send him on errands. And she's way above his level intellectually-- they don't share interests other than protecting the Candy Kingdom, which is strictly a business arrangement that Finn does NOT have to remain chained to if he doesn't wanna.
>>83679909
I'm sorry anon you just don't make sense. You say that Finn should still be traumatized from being rejected by Princess Bubblgum 2 years ago, even though its evident why he isn't. You want Finn to be obsessed over PB, if their chemistry a shit why should Finn even be depressed on not getting to date? Finn didn't go out with Bonnibel for 3 years, he thought about it, stopped trying, thought about it, and now doesn't think about it at all. It isn't a pattern, but he isn't going to be depressed anyway. There is something called "acceptance"
>>83680018
But Bonnibel has been shown to have fun. In "Breezy" she was a DJ, she can be fun and relaxed like she was in "Pajama Wars." You wanna know why? Because she stopped being so attentive. She stopped spying, she let Phoebe keep a elemental, she isn't as worried about her people. She needs help managing her kingdom. Did you not see "Varmints"? The kingdom grew so much, she needed to stop associating herself with friends just to manage her kingdom. She is sorry for pushing others away. Buy Finn does want to. Finn wants to be needed.
>>83680018
You can make errands fun anon, fun is subjective. They both enjoy eachother's company, that's all that really matters.
>>83679898
>You're confusing childish with enthusiasm.
I think you're doing the same thing. His enthusiasm when he was younger wasn't just being childish, it was his personality. It's been beaten out of him entirely. That's such a tragic view of "maturity". You can be mature but also fun-loving, optimistic, energetic, full of joy, etc.
>stop believing in being a hero?
He still believes, but his heart isn't in it as much. I don't blame him, since his own basic needs are being neglected. He needs to focus more on himself before he can help others as enthusiastically as he did before.
But you could argue the other way too... his interest in heroism was a foolish, childish thing and he still needs to grow out of it.
>>83680192
What is childish is denying the fact that people only care about what they can get from you. Stop incorporating emotion into your decisions. Finn isn't always enthusiastic anon. He gets sad and depressed in "The Enchiridion." He has his ups and downs; he is human. In "Hall of Egress," he seemed pretty enthusiastic about finding Jake. It's just the prepubescentness in his voice that throws it off. Enough with this idea that Finn is just moping around in every episode.
>>83680192
When has Finn ever stopped helping people? How can you tell if his heart is even into helping people?
>>83680279
He's not constantly moping but he hasn't got even 10% of the original liveliness. And when he does get depressed, it lingers like a motherfucker until we get to critical breaking points where he gets "fixed". He's even got a handy dandy repression zone for all his pesky issues. Because his issues are key now, an actual plot point they can keep milking forever.
It's just very sad. It wasn't worth it.
>>83680422
How do you measure liveliness? Are you seriously complaining that they don't do that "What time is it?" skit anymore? Because that shit ended like in season 3. When is Finn depressed? If you're referring to his "vault," that's where he stores things he cannot comprehend.
>>83679613
>He doesn't assume Ice King is out to do evil anymore.
Well he actually isn't, to be fair. IK's not a villain anymore. Everybody feels bad for him, it's not really ok to beat him up.
You know what I'd like to see though. Finn and IK developing into friends, sharing stories and stuff. But IK would have to regain some lucidity for that to happen. I mean damn, without the curse IK's a really nice, smart, sane dude. Good role model.
>>83680422
What plot point are they "milking"?
>>83680514
He's not a villain anymore because Finn showef him what it's like to have friends. And that is character development because in the season 4 episode "I Remember You," Ice King just went to write a song with Marceline. This was after Finn knew Ice King was originally a sane man. Does Finn do this now? No. When the day Ice King conspicuously entering homes, they questioned him first. They didn't just send him away or beat him up.
>>83680565
i forgot to mention that even though Ice King was just going to write a song, they just assumed he was up to no good. They don't do this anymore.
>>83680565
I'm confused how this is character development? The characters know his backstory now, so they're easier on him. More like plot development I guess. Although he'll still get up his old mischief if the episode calls for it.
>>83674699
I hope you open commissions soon.
I wanna Fertile Huntress Fionna
>>83680501
>"What time is it?"
oh my, I forgot this was even a thing.
>>83680651
It's character development because it took Finn to realize he isn't always a threat. Finn began to act friendly towards Ice King, which is why he wants to behave. He hates being alone. Even after learning his real name, they still were about to take him away, even though they didn't even know what was going on. They don't do this anymore. They're less harsh because they can see he is genuinely oblivious. Finn sees him as Simon Petrikov regardless of how he was acting, seen in "Don't Look," it wasn't the tapes the compelled him to believe that.
>>83680651
Party's Over/Isla de Señorita is the actual start of development for Ice King's character.
>>83682501
You know, between discussing PB's issues with intimacy in that episode and the scene with Prince Gumball and Butterscotch Butler in Five Short Tables, I've noticed Ice King understands Bonnie surprisingly well.
>>83682590
But the creative team doesn't understand their characterd that well, so there will be no follow up on this
>>83682721
there could be as long as it's from the same writer who brought it up
>>83682772
Except the two episodes are by completely different teams.
>>83682501
Except episodes like I Remember You and Simon and Marcy exist. Ice King progressively gets better anon, he doesn't stop acting like a lunatic immediately.
>>83682590
>PB's issues with intimacy
Oh you mean that "hurr Fubblegum atw just you wait guys," Yeah that ship is gonna suffer the same fate as Finnceline.
>>83683007
>Finnceline
never even close to real
>>83682590
That's just Ice King's fan fiction. I doubt he actually knows these things though. All he knows is Peppermint butler would know a lot about her, but it seems to be for satire purposes; she justs knew it from reading his diary. How does Ice King know what Ice Queen's idea of a genderswap would be? He isn't Ice Queen. You could say he would assume that if she were to write a fan fiction, they wouldn't be the same as Finn and Jake, but he wouldn't know what they look like. He is just telling a plot, and the animators and storyboarders fill in the rest for our pleasure
>>83677618
Requesting an edit of this with Finn and Jake.
>>83683178
already exists
although I can't be arsed to find it
>>83683007
you seem very upset at those ships, anon.
>>83677062
Because not everyone is a furry anon
>>83684873
Just tired of the delusion. It's one thing to mindlessly ship, but it's another to insist it still exist. I already explained why it is done in my argument. Start at the part of my suddem realization.
>>83682980
I said character, not backstory. I was specifically speaking of the Ice King layer of Simon as well. All that backstory reveals more of Simon's character, which gives insight to him as Ice King, but us knowing this doesn't change the way he acts. Ice King changed the way he acted in that episode I mentioned, even if it might not last.
>>83671331
Ain't an anon, anon.
>>83686930
I wasn't referring to the revelations of his past, I was referring to his character and how he acts. In "I Remember You," he didn't want to upset Marceline, because he really feels the need to be liked. He even sung how he feels in the song "Oh Bubblegum." Did he do this before? No. He always wanted to know why people don't like him since "Prisoners of Love," and there he is learning. He now can socialize without force, albeit due to Marceline wanting to be with him too. This is further supported in "Simon and Marcy," in the beginning they are playing basketball. Ice King is hanging around people like a normal person. He can act civilized. The reason people didn't want to be around him was because he acted like a lunatic. In "Broke His Crown," he is seen as normal as ever, where he is having dinner with Marceline and Bonnibel.
>>83686979
Under an anonymous pseudonym without proper verification, i.e, trip code. Seems pretty anonymous to me.
>>83680501
just now joining the thread but i think they mean breezy where he walks with his head under his ass and drags it across the ground and just gives up at life
>>83687931
Well is that really it? That Finn is all we see, and that Finn doesn't act like that anymore, and hasn't.
>>83688399
>no artist in filename
anon why
>>83687126
Fine, a namefag anon.
To be honest it doesnt really make sense for Finn too see PB as a chill bro friend, since nothing really happened. I think he knows he cant get her now so whats the point in chasing her, better chill out as friends, that is better for everyone.
>>83689183
He sees her mostly every day. It's gonna haunt him if she pairs with Marcy.
>>83674699
ohh my
Did Flame Princess ever interact with Marceline?
>Adventure Time with Finn and Jake
>Not of the main females are interested in Finn
>Adventure Time with Fiona and Cake
>All the dudes lust after Fiona
It's not fair.
>>83692055
Nope, that has the potential to make FP interesting for once and we all know that can't ever happen.
>>83692158
In the last F&C episode all the dudes were pretty gay.
>>83692468
I refuse to rewatch that episode, not because I'm a homophobe, it was just so fucking boring. The weird gay shit was just adding to it's shittyness.
It's so weird how the promo made it intense.
>>83689770
Hasn't he already seen how they act together? I'm sure it makes his eye twitch.
>>83692055
That would make too much sense bc Marcy is fireproof.
bumpin
