So I just watched Zootopia and can't shake something off. Isn't this guy the real big bad? He is the source of everything by abusing his subordinate so much.
>>83647704
No. There are a million things she could've done that didn't involve inducing insanity in random people and causing a race war.
>>83647704
J.K. Simmons is always in the right.
ALWAYS.
>>83647764
he still didn't get any real punishment. He's smug at the end because he knows all the blame will be pinned on bellwether and what he did wrong will never be known.
That's fucked up
>>83647848
He was in jail you dumb shit.
>>83647704
Just because a character had an indirect influence on events, that doesn't make them the main villain.This is what's known as a "greater scope villain". Essentially, a greater antagonistic force in the setting as a whole, but without necessarily having a direct role in the actual plot of the story. Spoiler, because I know how poor, delicate, oversensitive 4chan gets triggered by the mere reference to other websites.
>>83647848
He ended the movie in jail, Anon.
Also, your waifu fucked up pretty baaaaah-d.
>>83647924
>>83647888
he's probably not upset over that knowing he will be released very soon
>>83647963
What do you base that on? He was jailed for kidnapping and holding animals captive not because he was the cause of everything.
>>83647704
He wasn't abusing her. Sure he stepped over her but I doubt he was the only one too.
Seems most likely she had a buildup of repressed feelings and her supposed partner being another dick probably didn't help.
She could've quit if she hated her job so much.
>>83647704
>83647704
its a stupid kids show ''animals are like humans but fish and bugs are still fish and bugs despite being animals too''
>Thinking it was Lionheart that made her evil
She was a power hungry cunt who just hated how he treated her, she didn't give a shit about predators, she just wanted power
>>83648139
All the talking animals in this movie were specifically mammals you dumb bitch.
>>83647848
He ended the movie in jail and his political career is likely over. And he's only sort of accidentally evil- he had the savage animals locked up and hidden partly because he didn't want to cause a panic (which is what happened after they were found, mind you) and partly because he was worried about how the predators going savage might affect his career, what with him being a predator himself.
He'll have a hell of a book deal though.
>>83647704
No, he was trying to keep a race war from breaking out because he knew what people would assume from this.
The movie lacked the real fear prey animals had of predators. Judy's parents filled us in on that a little, but they weren't even from the more progressive Zootopia. There, we only saw that people are racist against foxes mostly, but also rabbits. Oh and I guess Yax was racist for assuming that the elephant had a good memory.
>>83648175
Oh so that means that the fish and bugs are not animals, they are something else!
See? The movie is so poorly made writting wise that they can't even come up with a scenario that makes sense
>I can do bad things because some guy was mean to me!
Please don't defend this logic.
>>83647704
You can't justify her actions because her boss was a rude dick. She was an insane tyrant.
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>>83648246
>Oh so that means that the fish and bugs are not animals,
Do you know what a mammal is?
>>83647924
Kek.
>>83648228
The racists analogies don't work when they are based on the truth.
Yes, rabbits are mostly useless animals, yes foxes are asses to other animals and the predators fucking kill animals to live!
Again, the same movie that has all those animals killing and eating fish... fucking dumb as fuck
>>83648191
didn't he try to KILL our heroes when they snuck into his horror lair?
>>83647704
He was kind of a jerk, but alot of things that he pushed on her (that we seen on the film) could be pinned on the fact that he was dealing with a situation that Bell Wether caused.
>>83647704
Nah, even his coverup of the predator violence was pretty much justified, regardless of whether there was a selfish component. He was preventing a widespread public panic that would have hurt a segment of the population until they could figure out what was going on, but the "heroes" of the story had to go invade a government black site, reveal what was going on to the public, and imply that there was a genetic component to the crimes based on unfinished, half-baked evidence, and start a wave of riots and hate crimes.
He was the real hero the whole time.
Would you rather share a cell with Lionheart or Bellwether
>>83648295
Yes and that's not a excuse.
Dolphins are mamals but they are also mostly fish, they live in the water, finns, etc.
Its just really dumb to have a movie in which dolphins can talk and go to school while sharks would just be dumb sharks despite a ton of qualities with a dolphin
>>83648370
Lionheart. He seems like a cool friendly guy. Plus he's a fucking lion and would hopefully have my back in a jam.
>>83648370
Lionheart, every time.
>>83648415
Oh, he would have your back alright
it's the law of the jungle/prison.
>>83648327
he doesn't look too happy here
>>83647704
Just because you have a shit job doesn't mean you can start a race war
>>83648191
>>83647924
>>83647888
He's going to become the animal version of Nelson Mandela
>>83648318
I thought he just tried to capture them
>>83648372
>Dolphins are mamals but they are also mostly fish
4chan is an 18+ site, larva
>>83648372
I couldn't tell you anything about that since there were no dolphin or fish in the movie.
>>83648372
Dolphins are not "mostly fish", though. They are real-world far more intelligent than any fish.
>>83648372
>Dolphins are mamals but they are also mostly fish
>>83648327
So is that like porn to him?
>>83648370
I want Lionheart to consensually rape me.
>>83648521
Most of it's probably underage, too
>>83648317
Fish don't have feelings. They're made of foam latex
>>83648191
He said it himself, he did a bad thing for the right reason.
>Predators out of nowhere with no known explanation are going rabid
>A Badger, who is a predator herself, with no other options hypothesizes that it might be in their DNA
>Judy who knows shit about Science and biology is put on the spot by reporters and expected to answer why the predators have gone rabid
>She parrots everything a far more experienced persons theory on the matter
>Get's shit on
Was anyone else slightly annoyed? I mean Nick was there, he knows she was just repeating what the doctor said and it's not like she knew any other option.
>>83648372
>Dolphins are mamals but they are also mostly fish
>>83648370
Lionheart is voiced by J.K. Simmons, so him.
>>83648562
It was rather irresponsible at the time.
>>83648013
He was acting in the interest of public safety, would you rather he caused a panic by telling people 10% of the population could randomly turn into savage killers and they had no idea what was causing it or how to treat it?
>>83648521
It's clearly a fashion magazine. Or maybe one of those books that cater to the wealthy.
>>83647704
I'm sorry, abuse? What abuse?
>>83648562
Childhood Trauma along with the images caused Nick to do stupid shit.
>>83647820
SPecially now that he is buffed-up.
>>83648562
Look at it this way
>"There seems to be something out there that's targeting making ordinary African-Americans behave in a feral manner, it's probably something that specifically targets their DNA"
>press conference
>"Oh these niggers are behaving like savages because it's in their DNA"
You could have phrased that better and your black friend is definitely going to notice the difference
Also you have a can of nigger repellent on your belt.
>>83648617
Why are you trying to argue with me guy? The other guy fucked off. I don't give a shit.
>>83648327
Wait, didn't they say they were trying to avoid domesticated breeds in Zootopia? Isn't that a housecat on the cover?
>>83648651
>now
He's always been buff, his roles just rarely call for him to be dressed in a way that shows it off
>>83648372
>>83648562
>I mean Nick was there,
Nothing Nick could say would help the situation because it would be Nick saying it.
>>83648317
Was there a scene where they ate fish? Probably in the background of some Tundra shot.
All I remember is Carrots, blueberries and ice cream.Where does the milk come from?
>>83648501
>>83648513
>>83648701>>83648578
Focus on the important part retards.
With that logic Dolphins would be smart and have a society but other fish would still regular fish, how does that make sense?
It doesn't, the world building is shit
>>83648796
>but other fish
Dolphins. Aren't. Fish.
>>83648562
>>Judy who knows shit about Science and biology is put on the spot by reporters and expected to answer why the predators have gone rabid
That's what you call a strawman argument waiting to happen.
First they show all the evil press asking for LOGIC and FACTS!
But they don't know the power of friendship that can overcome instincts like Judy and Nick know! So go home with your facts and logic!
>>83648372
>Dolphins are mamals but they are also mostly fish
>>83648796
Okay 1. Dolphin still aren't fish
and 2. Humans are smart and have a society but bears are still regular bears.
>>83647704
I was going to say blaming him for her actions is like blaming the school bully for the dweeby kid shooting up the school, but the mayor didn't really abuse her. He was just kind of inconsiderate. More like a teacher who doesn't give a shit about their students personal problems and assigns a fuck ton of homework.
>>83648831
How does that matter? They all are ANIMALS.
They have talking mammals in the movie that have been proven to be the equivalent of retards for the animal kingdom.
>>83648651
Lunatic music teacher JK Simmons > the rest of JK Simmons
>>83648915
The point is, it's only the mammals that became intelligent in this family friendly romp of a movie.
>>83648915
Because only MAMMALS are smart in the movie. Nothing else. Just mammals.
>>83648796
Dolphins arguably have culture in the real world, anon. They are certainly already much smarter than fish, I'm not sure how this is what breaks suspension of disbelief for you.
>>83648728Soy milk
>>83648866
>First they show all the evil press asking for LOGIC and FACTS!
I'm pretty sure the depiction of the press in this scene was more "hysterical" and "frenzied" than "gotta get the facts! we're all about journalistic integrity!" The scene wasn't really about journalistic integrity as it was about how much the media absolutely jumps on any blurb, no matter how easily falsifiable or how foundationless the claim, and parrots it for millions of ears to hear. The media has a lot of responsibility, and it failed spectacularly in Zootopia, just like it does in the real world.
>>83648796
Dolphins are already much smarter than fish.
>>83648965
>>83648966
Which is dumb, just as dumb as the metaphors about racism with the predators and that shit.
>>83648898
>Humans are smart and have a society but bears are still regular bears
This is why Revenant was unrealistic and stupid
Why didn't the bear talk, humans could talk it doesn't make any sense
>>83648866
>So go home with your facts and logic!
There weren't any facts or logic involved in that scene. that's the problem.
>>83648980
>Dolphins arguably have culture in the real world
Like ants
>>83649058
>why are fish so fucking dumb when humans are so smart it doesn't make sense!
>>83648995
its still a scene about the strawman press making the little inocent rabbit look bad and made her feel bad, etc.
And why do they ask her that shit instead of scientist? because dumb movie, that's why
>>83648898
>>83649068
checkmate
>>83649081
I noticed there weren't any anteaters in Zootopia. Or primates.
>>83649127
This was her investigation, it's pretty normal to ask the lead investigator questions. Technically they're supposed to know all of this shit.
So this was sort of a combination of the press looking for sensationalist, headline-worthy sound bites and Judy not being prepared for it
>>83649116
they are part of an ecosystem, some of them can comunicate and a lot of sea animals are smarter than people give them credit for.
Saying ''every fish is dumb but Dolphins are not because they are mammals'' is dumb.
For animal fuckers the people behind the movie doesn't seem to know much about them
>>83649127
What the fuck are you talking about? They're asking her questions because she was the one investigating.
>>83648372
>Dolphins are mamals but they are also mostly fish
Yes, and squids are also kids.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOtjUG5PXlE
>>83649178
>it's pretty normal to ask the lead investigator questions.
In what earth they would ignore the scientist?
Its the movie set in the 30s or some shit?
More people would be concerned with that Bunny trying to kill ''black people'' than with her opinion about science shit
>>83649167
I think it was said they avoided using primates because they looked a bit too similar to humans.
>>83649183
>why can't other primates talk like humans can
>that's so unrealistic
>>83649167
>One mammal you won’t see is simians or apes. “Apes are too much like us, so as soon as we put them in the story, everyone goes, oh the ape is the smart one. And we wanted all these mammals to seem like more or less equal intelligence, more or less,” said [Zootopia director] Byron Howard.
http://thedisneyblog.com/2016/03/02/how-zootopia-was-made-talking-with-disneys-animation-team/
>>83649183
Mammals ARE smarter, though.
>>83647704
Why do things fly over your head OP? I can't believe you have to watch this movie a second time, because you can't understand a children's movie.
Do you have a learning disability?
>>83649227
>In what earth they would ignore the scientist?
There weren't any scientists available. The story JUST broke. No one had any information at all except for the lead investigator.
>>83648455
I dunno he seems pretty content.
>>83648688
Maybe it's a feral breed that's practically a house cat but not really.
>>83648562
Mostly annoyed that Chief Bogo didn't brief her on how to handle a press meeting with society shaking findings. Seriously, just pulling her aside and saying: "Say only that we have found the kidnapping victims and that we do not know what is making them feral, I do not want a panic in my city." Instead, he lets a green as hell recruit up on the podium to offer wild conjecture and he never calls her out on it.
>>83649227
>In what earth they would ignore the scientist?
In the earth were the scientist in question was detained as an accomplice?
>>83649227
>In what earth they would ignore the scientist?
Was the scientist at the press conference?
>>83649233
>>83649264
Thats really the answer I was expecting. Just a little surprised to not see a group of generic-ass tree monkeys.
>>83649306
He could've done that. But hedidn't care.
>>83648915
mammals evolved
birds, reptiles, amphibians, fish, arthropods, and anything else you may consider an "animal" did not.
this is like being mad that ferns don't flower, anon. mammals are more evolved than the other animals irl, so why would they be on the same level as the others in this fiction?
>>83648728
In Tundratown, there's a business with the word "fish" in it. There's also a "blubber chef" which means that there are unseen seals and walruses probably flopping around awkwardly trying to live among land mammals.
>>83649306
Who gets to speak at the podium might not be up to Bogo. Similarly to how Assistant Mayor Bellweather basically got to strongarm him into letting Judy take the missing Otterton case, he might have had to grin and bear it when they told him Judy would be taking the podium following him.
>>83648688
it has spots, it's probably an ocelot or something
>>83648467
coming back like a cancer and staying for a long atrophying tenure?
>>83649420
>mammals are more evolved than the other animals irl
What does that even mean?
>>83649306
Cheif Bogo wasn't a predator. It's doubtful he gave a damn about pred/prey relations in the city. Note that Lionheart's chief concern wasn't about starting a panic, it was about being kicked out of office for being a pred.
>>83648521
more like jailbait
>>83649183
>every fish is dumb but Dolphins are not because they are mammals
This is literally the truth tho. Now, some non-mammals like octopuses (again, not fish) are very intelligent, but mammals still have the most developed brains of the animal kingdom.
>>83648318
He didn't even know who they were just that they were intruders, and his guards were armed with tasers.
>>83649489
go take a biology class
>>83649450
I might be misremembering, but didn't Bellweather sort of rush her to the podium?
I also watched this movie for the first time today and aside from the heavy handedness of the race/discrimination allegory, I thought it was an ok movie. My mom and sister on the other hand didn't like it because they had no idea that it was going to be a buddy cop film, and were expecting "something funny like the penguins of madagascar."
>>83649657
What I'm asking is, how are mammals more evolved if everything evolves that the same rate?
Actually most of the successful (large) mammalian species, humans, bears, elephants etc. are K-type reproducers so they evolve much slower than other organisms.
>>83649830
>everything evolves that the same rate
They don't.
>>83649830
If the first trailer is to be believed mammals are just taking the place of humans. So you can just argue that since Mammals filled that vaccum, all other species just had to respond to Mammal's dominance, resulting in them falling into the same lots.
>>83649916
Technically they do, don't they? The issue is not everything is just evolving to the same "destination".
>>83649916
I suppose I contradicted that with my second sentence huh?
>>83647924
>Also, your waifu fucked up pretty baaaaah-d
Bellwether was right
>>83648246
>the movie is so poorly made writting wise
>writting wise
Please, tell us more about good writing.
>>83648372
>Dolphins are mamals but they are also mostly fish
>>83649830
dumbing it down as much as I can...
mammals are better than fish in the same way my smart phone is better than a calculator.
>>83650395
At meeting their survival needs on land, I agree.
>>83650474
i'm talking about brains
go drink bleach
>>83648667
I for one would like several cans of nigger repellant.
>>83650620
I'm talking about evolution.
>>83647848
all he did was lock up the savage animals so his scientist could find a cure in a secret facility. he didn't want public relations between predators and preys to be damaged over something that was inexplainable to them.
when Judy pegged it on biology preys and predators went full race wars because it they couldn't be trusted and they were all afraid.
it's like he says in the end he did the wrong thing but for the right reasons.
Why didn't Judy know what a night howler was? Her dad said that they always had the flowers around, and have warned the kids not to mess around with them.
>>83648466
/pol/, listen to this man.
>>83649489
You know exactly what he fucking means you baiting little shit. Everyone who knows english and reads that sentence knows he's using the colloquial meaning of 'more evolved' meaning 'smarter or better adapted'.
>>83648318
The guards were using Tasers
>>83651994
Because they always referred to them by their technical name.
>>83648372
>Dolphins are mamals but they are also mostly fish
>>83647704
You're a leftie, aren't you?
People need to take responsibility for their action and blaming someone for being mean isn't a good enough excuse
Nah, he was just kind of a cunt. It's not like he gave her the night howlers and told her to go nuts or something. He was the catalyst, not the villain.
>>83648358
This! He did mostly nothing wrong!
Just imagine what would have happened if he did nothing. The wild predators would run free and maul everything in sight. Countless civilians would have been killed and sooner or later the wild predators would have been caught and looked up anyway. If Judy didn't fucked up, his scientists probably would have found a cure sooner or later and than the victims could have been cured. After that he would have gone to the public to explain the situation. The only thing he have done wrong is that he should have informed the police Chief and the families of the victims in secret by explaining the delicate situation. I'm sure no family member would want to spread the fact that one of their loved ones turned into a wild beast. And with the police in the boat he could have found the culprits much easier after they would have found the source of the madness.
He just didn't do that because of the fear of losing his position.
>>83653386
>getting triggered
>>83648562
>it's not like she knew any other option.
Nick gave her the other option, do not actually answer the press. Merely state what you want to state as if they asked you.
>>83647704
This is actually my biggest problem with the movie, the motivation of the bad guy, or should I say lack of motivation. So her boss was a cunt... and? Almost everyone's boss is. Boo fucking hoo, Judy's boss was the meanest character in this entire movie. So this lion bumped into her here and there, gave her a funny name and a stupid mug. 10/10 amazing backstory to creating a monster! Best Disney villain EVER guys!!
But seriously, the worse part is he could have easily been a prey animal and treated her the same way; judy's shitty boss was a prey animal and he was worse. I wanted to see an actual reason why Bellwether hated preds specifically, but she just didn't have one. She disliked this one guy for being a jerk and it didn't have anything to do with what he was. Sorry, that isn't the way prejudice usually works in real life, people don't just wake up one day and decide to hate other groups of people. If you want to treat the problem of racism, you have to actually acknowledge the symptoms that cause it.
It's not like the Islamophobia people have today was something randomly pulled out of a hat, and it wasn't just the actions of one person being a jerk that caused it... this movie would have you believe that, though. Hell, even the now popular hate being thrown at white people today stems from actual shitty white people with backwards ideas who can't stop making asses of themselves in public/on the news.
But I see why they went the route they did. This is a "The preds didn't do nuthin" story, because if they complicated things and actually gave Bellwether a reason to dislike the preds, then suddenly the story, and racism by extension, is given an uncomfortable ambiguity. It was either that, or the story not making sense, and they obviously went with 'not making sense' since the former option was out of the question.
>>83648327
>This was the last photo taken of former mayor Lionheart. He was shanked by a weasel in the chow line later that day.
>>83648327
Disney missed so many opportunities for Oz references
>>83649420
Okay, the guy you're arguing with is a retard, because the premise of the movie is that humans never evolved, primates don't exist, and somehow every other mammalian species evolved to fill the sapient niche.
All very unlikely to happen,and what the hell happened with all those vacant mammalian niches?, but hey this is what Suspension of Disbelief is for.
But I take umbrage to the statement that mammals are more evolved than other organism.
Nothing is more evolved than anything else, that's not how evolution fucking works.
You might say more sophisticated, or more intelligent...in which case I'd say what the fuck about birds, because their physiology has leaves most mammal body architecture in the proverbial dust...I'm getting off-point.
Don't say something is more evolved than something else because that's dumb.
That is my point.
>>83654975
That's kind of why it works though.
You don't need some big reason to be a racist, just a bunch of little reasons. They don't even have to specifically tie into race, you can just project that meaning onto them.
>>83654975
Bellweather didn't hate predators. She just used them as a political stepping stone, as a method of gaining power. She is just fearmongering, painting another (very small) group as monsters and horrors and painting herself as the town's savior, in a bit to take control of power and hold onto it.
What made you think she was scared of predators? She's not scared of Lionheart, outside fearing that her appearance as a devoted vice-mayor is in jeopardy. Hell, she was fine with pissing him off and ignoring his request in order to help Judy with finding the savage animals. She showed no indication of being afraid of Nick. She showed no indication of being afraid of anyone in prison - if she really was traumatized by some predator in her past, then she would likely be terrified of having large predators sitting right next to her and groping her hairpuff while she was defenseless in chains.
>It's not like the Islamophobia people have today was something randomly pulled out of a hat
What makes you think that every single "deport all Muslims" politician holds a secret paranoid fear of Islam? Of course they don't. They're just politicking the anti-Muslim agenda, because that's popular with the public and that gives them votes. And if they want to make up an agenda just to spread it around and get people to fear a small group in order to net votes, then they'll do that, too. Trump and his "Mexicans are stealing your jobs!" is basically exactly this, and it's something that's been happening in American politics for decades now.
You'd have to be blind or this movie would have to be your first good look at politics for you not to notice.
>>83648532
but lions got spiny dicks my friend
>>83647704
If your boss is shitty, anon, you resign, you don't start killing innocent citizens and start plotting a revolution because boo hoo work is stressful
>>83648013
Animals who had all gone savage and would have attacked and killed prey if they'd been allowed to remain on the loose though
>>83656398
Just because someone is crazy doesn't mean it's legal to tranq them with a rifle and lock them up into any random location you choose, without telling anyone. He's not being arrested for trying to solve the problem. He's arrested for violating laws in doing so.
If he's set up a special wolf task force to just catch the savage people running around, and set up an official secure hospital ward where the savage people couldn't get out - basically, what was done after Lionheart was removed - then he wouldn't be in jail.
The road to Hell is paved with the best of intentions.
>>83656490
That's half legal; hospitals have the obligation to hold people who are a threat to others or themselves.
>>83656562
Hospitals don't have the authority to grab random people off the street and hide them in some basement room without anyone knowing, though. They're limited to specific uses of tranquilizer (specifically to their submitted patients, and only if they're a danger to others) and are required to have information about their patients on-hand and available to proper authorities (police and likely family/next of kin).
Lionheart had none of that. He wasn't operating a registered hospital, he was grabbing people off the streets, and he wasn't notifying the police or family when it happened. That's why it was kidnapping.
>>83648372
I se what's going on here
>>83647704
>He is the source of everything by abusing his subordinate so much.
If I worked for Obama and he was a dick to me, would I just be justified in starting a Race War?
>>83648372
>Dolphins are mamals but they are also mostly fish
>Dolphins are mamals but they are also mostly fish
Are bats mostly birds?
>>83657602
Of course
t./pol/
>>83649830
>if everything evolves that the same rate?
Do you know how evolution works?
>>83654975
>Judy's boss was the meanest character in this entire movie.
That's the entire point. It's supposed to show two sides to the same coin. Judy and Bellwether are both tiny predators abused by their bosses who have a history of abuse by predators.
But while Bellwether internalized her hate and used it against people, Judy turned her frustrations into something positive. Either side of this story can happen to anyone. In Zootopia you can be whatever you want.
>>83651994
He had like 5 million kids he could have spent an entire week just telling kid after kid not to go near the night howlers and he still wouldn't have been able to tell them all.
>people actually defending nick and judys race mixing
When the day of the leash comes you people will be the first
>>83648370
Share a cell with Cave Johnson or Racewar Ram?
Lionheart, every time.
>>83658658
Oh, I'd ram her hard enough to start a racewar.
If you know what I mean.
>>83651994
Because different groups of people can have different names for the same thing, especially when they are separated.
It's quite clever actually. It's something that has been bugging scientists since the invention of taxonomy because they can never be sure if something the locals found is an actual discovery or just common bush that has already been identified but named differently.
Search up mountain lions if you want. Mountain screamer is kind of guessable but it's impossible to see them as "purple feathers".
>>83657718
I like to think Bellwether was in a play like Judy when she was young, going all "Zootopia is a place where even I, a sheep, can become MAYOR!"
If we look at the facts, she got her wish. She even had the nameplate and everything.
Why did no-one involved in the production of this shit realise that a sheep is actually considerably bigger than a rabbit.
>>83656317
>Bellweather didn't hate predators. She just used them as a political stepping stone, as a method of gaining power.
Did miss her end speech? She even had power at that point; if it was just about that she already won, but no, that wasn't enough. She was vindictive; it wasn't enough to paint the predators "bad", they even already had that rep at that point. No, she wanted to destroy them, and her tone and facial expression even turned orgasmically evil while she talked about it.
>>83661290
>Why did no-one involved in the production of this shit realise that a sheep is actually considerably bigger than a rabbit.
Pretty sure scale is not one of their strong suits. Imagine Nick standing here to; the rodents would be microscopic. Realistically the size difference between the rodents and Judy in this scene should have been the size difference between the rodents and Nick.
>>83648617
>He was acting in the interest of public safety
Everyone basically retorted saying he did it to save his career as he was a lion
>>83647704
His treatment of Smellwether in no way justifies what she did.
>inb4 "punching up"
>>83647820
He was the villain in Kung-fu Panda 3
>>83648246
>Oh so that means that the fish and bugs are not animals
No it does not.
>>83649081
Ants have societies but not culture, because their behaviors aren't learned. Dilphins have culture because they teach each other things.
>>83649496
You must have missed his "It could destroy Zootopia!" comment. Yes, Lionheart was a dick, but his primary aim did seem to be to protect the city.
>>83648796
First, dolphins aren't fish. Second, by that logic great apes shouldn't exist in the real world since we exist. Your whole premise is dumb and flawed.
As I understand mammals the only animals who evolved to human-like sentience, while the other chordata classes (birds, reptiles, fishes and amphibians) and all the arthropodes like bugs stayed wild, and are eaten by the carnivorous mammals
>>83665778
>Mammaltopic
>Breast-topia!
>>83648509
Heck, theyre more intelligent than the vast, vast majority of mammals actually shown in the movie.
>everybody is out enjoying themselves tonight
>yet another quiet Friday night in the Zoot thread
Bit a shame
>>83667635
in the parallel thread we fiercely argued, you missed that?
>>83667745
I'm coming from that thread. No point posting this in there since it's about to drop off
>>83667635
I'll always be here to keep Judy company~
>>83667635
I'd pee on her face.
Judy wears the same shirt as her mom near the end of the movie.
>>83667760
Thank you, anon. It's nice to have a friend.
>>83667769
Delete
>>83647704
>The douchebag boss is responsible for the the worker going postal and shooting up the boss
Nah senpai.
>>83667769
I'm not alone though, I have Judy with me.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10439744
Daily reminder to not sexualize the bune
>>83668181
>>83668181
Are you telling me that the bun is just for fun?
Nick's voice acting during the train scene is fucking terrible. It sounds like he's trying not to wake his mom when he's supposed to be shouting. Seriously, how was this allowed to make the cut?
>>83668239
She obviously meant that bunnies are very good at math, nothing more.
>>83667635
>everybody is out enjoying themselves tonight
b-but I'm here tonight enjoying myself
>>83668181
>>83668181
We don't have to, she does it all on her own!
>>83659277
Not that guy, but as much as I appreciated that twist, it's still strange to think that a backwards conservative farmer would be big into what those college eggheads are naming his cover crop. Would have been better to name them something that sounds common but obscure.
>>83648688
look up sand cats. there's more than a few breeds of wild cats that are basically house cats.
>>83648370
lionheart, 90% certaim he knew smellweather was a backbiting cunt and treated her like the garbage she was because of it.
>>83648447
you say that like its not a benefit
>>83668308
something something sad tits...
>>83668308
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bLX06yR3wY
>>83648667
I need some nigger fogger for my neighborhood.
>>83668181
Too late.
>>83668308
Always think that she looks a bit weird here tbqh
>>83668618
delete this
>>83668731
You know that you love her bune bum. Stop resisting.
>>83649081
ants have actually developed culture. look up the phenomena of champion warfare and ants. you'll get hives competing for resources thatbactually teach other species to engage in champion based warfare.
>>83668801
No. Bune is for hugs not for fugs.
>>83649506
baddumtish
>>83668832
One is a logical consequence of the other, especially for lusty bunnies
>>83668895
>lusty bunny
>>83662584
>Imagine Nick standing here to; the rodents would be microscopic.
Oh yes. I wish Nick went to Little Rodentia
>>83668932
Embrace her impurity.
>>83656356
for scraping out semen. would be nice once you got used to it.
>>83668731
>>83669032
Genuinely the best scene in the film. This was so obviously a gift to us from the animators
>>83668987
>>83669032
JUDE IS PURE! PURE!
>>83668328
you'd be surprised at how many rural farmers are college educated
>>83669069
shhh
>all around me are familiar faces
>>83648688
Maybe a certain population of the feline species evolved into what we think are house cats but in actuality they are the result of generations of androgynous lines.
>Judy was never charged with impersonating a police officer
>>83669069
Give it up, anon.
>>83669167
The tortoise won the race but the hare won the race war.
>>83669171
never
Judy is a loser.
>>83669475
eat shit gideon
You open a trans-dimensional portal and bring Judy through into our universe.
After the portal zaps closed, she says:
Ok, anon! Show me your world! Lets have some fun!
Where would you take her? What would you do? How would you have fun with the bun?
>>83648370
>sharing a cell with JK Simmons
That is literally the entire premise of a six season Nazi prison rape drama
>>83669597
>And this is my laptop and my video game collection
>"Is that all you do all day, just shitpost on the internet and play video games?"
>y-yes...
>>83669597
Nothing. I would open the portal again and ask her to go get nick instead.
>>83669659
>Anon where are your friends?
>Anon where is your girlfriend?
>Anon where do you work?
>Anon what are your dreams?
>anon please open the portal, i want to go home
>>83669659
Nick: So Judy, what was it like over there?
Judy: Holy balls, you just don't wanna know. I arrived in the room of some guy who watches 1 hour and 47 minutes of our life over and over and over. Then when he's finished, he watches it again. It was a bit creepy.
He showed me a website that was full of pictures of you and me -quite a lot of it was you- and it was terrifying.
I even saw some stuff where we were naked and doing sticky stuff, I had to avert my eyes.
I re-opened the portal and got the hell out. I wont be going back there again.
>>83669940
>I even saw some stuff where we were naked and doing sticky stuff, I had to avert my eyes.
I mean, I get the whole pure meme but I'm pretty sure Judy knows what sex is.
>>83670132
>pure
>meme
>>83647704
Jessy & Walt are the sheep forcing the night howlers onto the predators and the name of two fictional meth dealers. What does that tell you
What I don't get is how the otter immediately recognized he'd been dosed with night howlers (while also losing control), yet nobody else is apparently aware of their effects.
>>83670258
Well he was a florist
>>83670132
>he doesn't know about "sticky stuff"
>>83670258
You mean because he "kept screaming about the night howlers" or whatever? I always just interpreted that as him ranting about them *before* he was shot. After all, he was going to Mr. Big to warn him about them.
I want to bully Judy a lot. Not because I hate her, but because I know she can take it, and use that to become a stronger person.
>>83669597
>I'm sorry, Judy, it's not safe for you here. You will have to stay inside most of the time and can only go out if you're very, very discreet and well-disguised.
>Why, anon?
>You're special. Special is a good way, but there are people with lots of power who will want to exploit that. I'm sorry that this maybe isn't what you hoped, but there isn't anything I can do.
Seriously, our dreams of taking Judy on lovely summer walks through the forest just wouldn't work. Now, having lewd fun with the bun... Maybe she'd be open to that.
Nick and Judy's eyes are the same size.
Judy's brain must be at least 60% eyeballs.
>>83670461
What if her eyeballs are her brains?
>>83669597
I'd take her to a nice grassy hill, where we can lay on a blanket and munch on a few carrots and have a glass of wine each, while watching the world go by.
Then after we'd had a couple of glasses I might roll over and give her a playful tickle on her belly. She giggles and then we both roll away slightly, a bit embarrassed with ourselves.
>well I guess you need to get back home and see Nick, he's probably wondering where you are by now?
>yes, I really should
We clear up our picnic and I take her back to my place where the portal is waiting
>thank you anon for a lovely day. I love your world! You must come and see mine soon
>yes I will. And tell that sly fox I said hello
>*giggles* I will.
Judy jumps through the portal and it zaps closed. At the same second my life becomes dark again
>>83648688
They're not real. He's essentially reading a furry porn mag. Domesticated, non-anthropomorphic, unclothed cats are porn.
>>83647704
Because someone mistreats you or is unfair to you it doesn't mean you should turn to violence or treat them even worse than they did you. In the end you become the monster over taken by revenge.
>>83670526
Goodness me anon that's so sad. I share your feelings. Would live the rest of my life as a pauper if I could just spend one day with Judy.
Why us?
>>83669597
No joke last night I had a dream where a trannie rubbed my collarbone and the s/he told me that "They used to round the children like leaches".
I don't what that means but I'd do something similar to Judy, just to see it play out in real life.
>>83670288
>>83670344
Yeah he was talking about them before being drugged, as a florist he noticed thae mass stealing and maybe he was even aware of its effect on mammals.
>>83670637
>They used to round the children like leaches
but what does that mean?
>>83647889
If you're gonna reference TV Tropes, at least don't give wrong information. That trope does not apply to Lionheart.
>>83647889
>>83671265
Yeah, Unwitting Instigator of Doom is more fitting for example.
DO NOT SEXUALIZE THE BENJI
>>83671475
>donut onahole
>>83671475
Mate, he's not attractive enough anyway
