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Let's see this shitty event turn into the war against New Attilan (to be continued in space).
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I want a CIVIL WAR III but the gimmick for that one is that the heroes are flat out murdering each other.
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>>83629014
Is...is this taking place inside the Statue of Liberty?
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>>83628979
>>83629032
Why the fuck is Tony so mad at Ulysses? It's not his fault that he got killed by Thanos. I could understand blaming Carol, but you can't blame someone for providing life-saving intel.
Tony a shit. Bendis utterly failed at making his side reasonable.
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Karnak is cute.

CUTE!
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>>83629055
This whole event is contrived. Before this event, everyone thought Tony was the right side because Minority Report, but now it's not making much sense. Why does Tony think it's better to let villains get the first strike? What does Tony even plan on doing? Kill Ulysses?
Oh, but enough about that! We got another death to look forward to in issue 3!

Hell, for such a big time event about hero vs. hero, the battle lines aren't drawn until issue 5, and then Bendis will waste those last three issues on one final fight. A Civil War where the heroes fight each other only at the end.

What a lame event.
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>shoving International Iron Man #4 as a Civil War II tie-in at the last minute


>Civil War II #3 delayed to July 13 because of Marvel PR
The Accused and Fallen (the latter is probably about the fallen hero in that Civil War II issue) creative team announcements when? July 6th or 13th?

>#4 may likely be delayed to July 27 or August 3
Hickman's Secret Wars comparisons when?
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>>83629047
He's going to have Karnak lose isn't he?
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>>83629054
Captain Marvel does own an apartment in the crown.
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>>83629032

>You would never disrespect my kingdom this way!!


Tell that to Hope Summers
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>>83629059
Goddammit!! Karnak should've kicked his canned ass in 2 moves.
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>>83629014
>>83629032
HOW DARE YOU WARN PEOPLE ABOUT ALIEN THREATS COMING TO EARTH! YOU MONSTER!
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>>83629156
Why? Karnak needs to actually touch you in order to defeat you, if Tony dodges and just blasts him from a distance, there's not much he can do.
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>>83629059
Jesus Christ, this event was a trainwreck from the first issue. At this point it's just a matter of how big the pile up will be.
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>>83629156
Karnak has lost fights before because his enemies beat him before he could fully figure out how to manipulate their flaws.

It's a pain because Karnak is great, but it's not TOO bullshit
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>>83629126
>Cover by Marko DjurDjevic
W-what?
That 'fuck comics and everyone in the medium I'm outta here' guy is now coming back?

How does it happen?
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Remember, there are people that actually think this event is good.
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>>83629127
>>83629156
Karnak almost never beats heroes because his gimmick is destroying shit he hits. Especially now that his solo has made him out to be brutal killer. He won't beat another hero unless they plan to kill that hero off or give Karnak a reason to spare him. Besides the worst part of this is Tony's armor is probably going to be immune to everyone's attacks instead of him getting out via skill based on him tanking the lightning.
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boring
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>>83629014
>laughing ironmen.jpg
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>>83629865
It's not as bad as people believe it to be.

It's just meh-to-mediocre good like everything Bendis has wrote past few years, but not neally as bad as Ultimatum.
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>>83629014
>>83629032
I still don't understand, why the hell is Tony so pissed at the kid? Its not his fault his black friend died, kidnapping him is only going to cause a major diplomatic incident for no reason.

Even Tony trying to kill Bucky for what he did while brainwashed in the past when being triggered by the footage at that moment is way more understandable than this nonsense.
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>>83629047
stupid fuckin tony...
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>>83629032
>this isn't a thing unless you make it a thing
kidnapping people isn't a thing? What is Tony even planning to do with him?
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>>83629845
>That 'fuck comics and everyone in the medium I'm outta here' guy is now coming back?
He fucking better, he is a GOD! His Thor work was even better then Copiels.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/23732/1232350-daredevil500coverspread.jpg
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>>83629933
No, its pretty dogshit, and entirely pointless.
The contrived scenario to have heroes fight each other is even more nonsensical than that of the original Civil War. Which is because this is a super cheap rushed-out cash in on the the name of the Captain America: Civil War movie.
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>>83629933
I'm just mad that no reviewer has pointed out the huge flaws in Tony's logic of blaming Ulysses for Rhodey's death as the catalyst.
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>>83629156
He'll lose to anyone who can move at 40 MPH in close quarters with amazing dexterity.
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>>83630020
Most reviewers are retards or shills.
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>>83630035
CBR gave Civil War II a 4-Star review, but gave the Cap Hydra reveal issue 1 1/2 stars. Sometimes I wonder.
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>>83629007
I want a civil war III that's just eight issues of heroes playing risk.
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>>83630062
It really astonishes me. It's like they give bad reviews for bad things that happens to their favorites.
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>>83628979
So, what's Tony going to do after he kidnaps Ulysses? Keep him imprisoned forever so that nobody can ever listen to his warnings and act on them to save people?
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>>83629156
Well he is getting back up, so at the very least he didn't get one shotted.
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why Tony is always the villan in the comic, why?
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>>83630674
Remember Tony is one of the ten most intelligent people on earth. Who are we to question his logic?
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>>83630760
He won't be the villain anymore when Hawkeye kills Hulk. That will also be when Spider-Man switches sides, a callback to the original Civil War.
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>>83629014
>>83629032
The only thing good about this event so far is how much I want fuck Ulysses
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>>83630760
Because they're really trying to push Carol as marvel's top female hero, they just want it so bad.
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>>83631004
Is it working at some level?
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>>83629047
this book already feels like a parody. I don't think you can even redeem it at this point. How did Bendis fuck it up so bad? Like this is even shittier than usual for his events.
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>>83631040
No.
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>>83631040
well it's not like she has any competition.
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>>83631040
They've been pushing her since Reed's run, from back in 2006. It's just not going to happen.
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>>83628979

I really don't understand what's at stake for this event.

I get both sides of the "stopping things before they happen" shit, but what are the consequences?

What is Tony going to do if Carol and the Inhumans use Ulysses? Tony isn't director of Shield. If anything SHIELD would be on the side of Carol and the Inhumans. Hill would be all over this precognition shit after Pleasent Hill.

This isn't like where it's "hey register with the Government or get arrested". That made Civil War very basic and easy to see how one side can fight another side.

This entire event is based off just 2 different opinions. The worst that could come out of this is the way Heroes approach the threats, not each other.

The only war in this event right now is between Tony (previously has done numerous things to prevent future incidents from happening. shooting Hulk inton space ring a bell?) and Carol (who marvel is only pushing so they can have their Wonder Woman while trying to push Inhumans).
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>New Attilan
I've been meaning to ask: didn't Blackbolt destroy new Attilan which released the terrigen cloud? Did they just rebuild it or something? Sorry if it's a stupid question.
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>Tony is going to do evil shit for four chapters straight and in chapter five when the true nature of Ulysses's power is revealed he will be right and all will be forgiven
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>>83630789
By "most intelligent" it actually means "most autistic".
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>>83631162
He destroyed original Attilan. New Attilan is the city built after the T-bomb.
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>>83629164
>>83629055
Think of 1984's "thoughtcrime". What happens when Ulysses predicts an innocent person will become a criminal? Is it fair to arrest them for something they haven't done? It could be better executed that Tony is a mess after his friend died and doesn't want someone with little control over their powers thrown into battle or judging innocent people, but Bendis can't write for shit.
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>>83631257
But Ulysses isn't a fighter and he isn't passing judgement on anyone, he's just telling his teachers what he sees after said other inhumans contacted him and started teaching him how to deal with his new powers.

You are right that Bendis can't write for shit, though.
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>>83631257
Yes, but NONE OF THAT HAS HAPPENED YET.
It's hypocritical for someone to be against going after people for something that could happen and then kidnap someone for something that could happen.
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>>83631298
But Carol has been wanting to forcethis kid into battle when Tony thinks it's a bad idea, but they made the female the victim and added insult to injury by killing She-Hulk. Just shit writing is all there is to blame.
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>>83629047
So you're telling me that Johnny Storm and Crystal went away, then came back to Medusa's side in a span of a 2-3 minute conversation?
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>>83631257
Thing is that this is not established in any way. Currently he warned people about cosmic threats which is great him having precogs about a small murder would be ridicilous in that sense. You are basically taking Minority Report and insert it into Ulysses. There should be no war as of right now. If we would see Ulysses having a precog moment where he sees an innocent bystander becoming a supervillain and Carol wants to stop that then we would have a more morally grey area but right now Tony is just throwing a tantrum and acting out of character. And Bendis not being able to write anything is common sense at this point.
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>>83631374
Except she hasn't? All she's been wanting to do is use his intel to forewarn them about incoming threats.
He doesn't even have any combat related powers.

And Tony has no right to talk about not taking children into battle, since he was the one that spearheaded the Forceful Metahuman Conscription Draft

You are pulling that out your backside anon.
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>>83631204
No, you're thinking of Reed.
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>>83631378
They were probably patrolling the city and not actually leaving it. Plus they herd he was coming from Carol.
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>>83629949
He doesn't trust Ulysses and he thinks the kid is fishy or something.
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>>83631378
>Johnny Storm and Crystal
>in a span of a 2-3 minute
Were they off banging? Jognny cheating on Meds with his Inhuman-Ex would be the only way to make their nonsense relationship anymore retarded.
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>>83631446
We don't talk about Marvel season One or whatever that shit was called.
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>>83628979
>Civil War II
because the first was so great
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>>83630020
There is some Youtube review that already called the event "a cash grab" and even he hates Bendis.

His channel was posted 1 day after civil war 2 #1
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>>83631460
No, he's just being a sperg because MUH RHODEY.
What exactly was his plan after breaking into the inhumans home, physically kidnap the kid? Then what? What is the next step of his master plan, locking him in an alternate-dimension prison forever so no one can ever talk to him? He tried that before and it didn't work.
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>>83631508
>No, he's just being a sperg because MUH RHODEY.
They go over why he doesn't like Ulysses, the Rhodey thing just exacerbates it. The comic sucks but lets be reasonable here and actually read it before talking about it.
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>Still choosing sides in this event, as if the people who wrote and approved of this put any thought into the conflict
>Not realizing the real Civil War is between Bendis and us, and we are losing
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>>83631534
Except Rhodey's death is not Ulysses' fault in any way.
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>>83631556
No, it was Carol's.
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>>83631534
Rhodey dying has nothing to do with Ulysses, and if the Ultimates+A-Force hadn't intervened and managed to capture Thanos then ALOT more people would have died and he would have likely got his hands on a cosmic cube before they eventually heard about it and got there.
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>>83631551
We lost a long time ago.
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>>83629032
> Last Warning
Where is the meme magic?
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>>83631460
Tony seems to think that the fact that Ulysses' predictions can be avoided means he's completely unreliable and we should thus never act on any of his intel, which is quite a fallacy.
What it actually means is that Ulysses indicates what would happen if there had been no prediction, but by given people knowledge of that possible future it can be avoided. There is nothing wrong with preparing for Ulysses' predictions, worst case scenario nothing happens and nothing was lost.
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>>83631303
Bendis thinks he's being clever by making you think Carol's right before it turns out that Tony is in fact the one who is right.
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>>83629059
>>83629047

Man, there is nothing that exemplifies that Bendis' whole writing style is just a child mashing his action figures against each other while sitting in a sandbox more than these two pages.
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>>83631694
Kids make up better dialogue while doing so though.
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>>83628999
>Friday
is this actually a thing or just movie synergy?
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>>83631815
Synergy
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>>83629059
>>83629047
So what happened to OP? Got disgusted by his own thread?
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>>83631815
Friday's been around since 2002, she's just one in a line of Stark a.i. that goes back to Homer, Plato, and for a short while after her body was destroyed Jocasta.
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>>83631139
Man, if this is what Marvel things is event material, I dread next year
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>>83631885
Read the OP text (that's me) nigga
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>>83631885
That is all there is anon, it is just a preview. The comic comes out next week.
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>>83630062
But... the first issue of Cap was fine. Nothing amazing but it was a decent first issue of a cape comic.

Meanwhile this is just yet another shitty event comic.
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>>83631139
Presumably things will escalate once Ulysses predicts Banner will Hulk out again and kill a bunch of people, resulting in Hawkeye killing Banner to stop it. Which will result in Cho hulking and going berserk.
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>>83632616
That still doesn't change the fact that Ulysses can predict earthquakes and alien attacks
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>implying Marvel isn't going to put Spencer on their event books from now on after the lackluster response to Civil War II and the over the top response to Hydra Cap
THE ERA OF BENDIS IS OVER
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>>83632616

Do we have any proof that banner is still alive? Figured he would be dying be part of why Cho is a Hulk now. Didn't he drain all of Banners gamma at the bottom of the ocean? Or did they never finish those flashbacks?
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>>83633400

the civil war 2 tie-in for totally awesome hulk is about finding Banner.
they did a little teaser of it a couple weeks back where Banner got into a bar fight and didn't transform. it didn't say when it took place though.
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So who's gonna be in the right here?

They're pushing both Tony and Carol, Carol's side so far is a lot more understandable even if I don't agree with them either, but everybody Bendis likes is on Tony's side.

Cause I'm guessing a vision gone wrong in issue #3 is what makes them set up the "Tony was right" thing, and it's gonna feel incredibly forced like the last Civil War.
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>>83630789
Because he only does things that directly benefit himself. In this case he needs to find a scapegoat to sate his childish rage.
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>>83629047
>Electricity travels through hair
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>>83633456
>and it's gonna feel incredibly forced like the last Civil War.
Yeah, just because something bad happens doesn't mean we should automatically stop using Ulysses
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>>83633400
No, they said explicitly in TAHulk that Cho drained all the gamma out of Banner. Leaving Banner perfectly alive without the burden of the Hulk anymore.

He's just off living his life.
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>>83629007
It already exists but it's a DC story.
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>>83634521
Marvel Injustice when?
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>>83632616
>>83630790
Ok what's this business about clint killing banner? I know theres been speculation about bruce being "the fallen", but where's the hawkeye part come from?
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>>83634562
Hopefuly never.
Marvel Injustice would be because of muh privileges and we would have Straight white male vs the rest
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>>83634651
Speculation based on

>Lemire's Hawkeye being a failure compared to Fraction's (cancelled in 12 issues across 2 volumes)
>Kate is said to get a solo
>said solo would realistically come with the Marvel Nower relaunch after CW2
>Bendis doesn't care about Clint and has fucked him up at least 2 or 3 times
>Clint is on Carol's side which is filled with Bendis' unfavorites so they're gonna end up wrong

I mean it could be anyone else on Carol's side but I can understand the theory that it's gonna be Clint
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>>83634651
There have been a few variant covers that subtly imply it, like this one.
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>>83634793
And this.
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>>83632580
Yeah, I mean the twist is just stupid stunt-chasing and obviously will get fixed, but the comic is like competently crafted.

I really can't say the same for Civil War II.
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>>83634793
>>83634808
Ahh, got it. That skottie young variant is pretty hilarious if it turns out to be true
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>>83634808
So first a missle kills a hulk, and now an arrow, does Bendis know anything about hulks or does he just not care?
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>>83634748
Bendis is such a petty twat, jerking off over his favored 'pet' characters while actively dicking over any character he has a personal dislike for.
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>>83631534
>They go over why he doesn't like Ulysses, the Rhodey thing just exacerbates it. The comic sucks but lets be reasonable here and actually read it before talking about it.


Did YOU read it?

Top is Tony's actual objections to Ulysses and his warning to Carol. Bottom is him getting mad at Carol because he warned her..... that Ulysses could see a vision where a superhero is a threat?

The only way this would've made sense is if instead of the Carol & Friends vs Thanos fight, the instigator was Hawkeye killing Banner and then Tony got pissed off at that.

And I'm through giving Bendis the benefit of doubt on events after his Age of Ultron.
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Tony: Im going to kidnap that kid with powers who has done nothing but prevent crimes from happening and saving lives because my best friend died due to his prediction. After I kidnap him I dont know what to do with him or where to hide him with the entire world after me.

Carol: Im going to take a team of B-listers and new minority heroes to fight Thanos, a man who almost destroyed the universe 3 times and succeeded once. The same Thanos that back handed the Hulk and defeated Galactus and a fucking Beyonder.

Medusa: Im going to start attacking Tony and say "This is your last warning" and hope he dosent try to kill his target that is literally a foot away. Also I wont bother to try to lure him away to prevent harm to Ulysses who is asleep right now and next to a emotionally unstable walking weapon.

Karnak: Im going to be a jobber character this issue even though in my solo series I sliced a bullet in mid air and screamed at a frequency that causes several hundred people's heads to explode.

Johnny Storm: Im going to use my ex-girlfriend as a shield and not even bother to flame on.

Did everyone just become autistic after Secret Wars? Its like DC Rebirth, except instead of Reed taking 10 year from everyone, he just made them retarded. This is actually worse than fucking Axis.
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>>83635151
Bruce Banner is currently depowered
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>>83635151
Banner has conveniently lost the ability to turn into Hulk at the moment, making him ripe for killing.
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>>83634748
Further evidence: Hawkeye was in the New Avengers book, and last issue he was pretty much written out of the book by having walk away covering his ears so he can pretend to not know anything about what the AIMvengers are doing.
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>>83635151
Banner is depowered and the solicits make it sound like Chulk loses his shit
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>>83635409
This is going to be the No More Mutants moment for Clint, isn't it
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>>83635496
Depends, are people really invested in this story?
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>>83635533
No, doesn't mean that they won't try and shove it down reader's throats.
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didn't happy hogan die in the last civil war?

watch out pepper civil war 3 will be just around the corner
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>>83635569
Like evil Black Cat.
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>>83629032
>>83629047
>Would you stop someone before they do anything?
>Forgets that he shot the Hulk into space
>Kidnapping this kid, that is in your kingdom, is nothing if you don't make it a thing!
>FUCKING KIDNAPPING
Tony is literally irredeemable here.
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>>83635649
There are people that defend this Tony because "He learned from his mistakes"
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>>83635607
>didn't happy hogan die in the last civil war?

Yeah and I think Bendis plans to bring him back.
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>>83635696
He didn't reshoot the Hulk back into space after he came back so he clearly came to the conclusion that was the wrong call.
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>>83633456
Well if you believe these rumors are true:

http://community.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?73528-Death-of-X-leak-(HEAVY-SPOILERS)

Where it says End of X comes out next summer. Carol Danvers teams up with Timegazer (he's the new inhuman who can peer into the future from Civil War II; also Carol "wins" Civil War II and the whole thing is much lower stakes and less edgy than Civil War I) to discover a new threat looming, some kind of horrible "storm" that threatens to collapse the timeline.

Then it sounds like Carol wins.
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>>83635306
Carol had a team of powerhouses, Blue Marvel is one of the most powerful people on Earth and Spectrum is also way up there, its not like she could have done much better in terms of heavy hitters.
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>>83635306
>Im going to take a team of B-listers and new minority heroes to fight Thanos
She took the Ultimates who have the best chance against Thanos of all the earth-based heroes
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>>83635649
To be fair, he's acting out of grief. However, if he keeps this up later when he should have had the chance to calm down and think rationally (i.e. realize that blaming Ulysses for Rhodey's death is fucking stupid), then he's irredeemable.
Who am I kidding, Tony has done way worse in the past.
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>>83636012
He doesn't get to use the 'grief' defense, he could claim grief if he slugged Carol and started a fight in the HQ.

You CANNOT claim shit like that if you head back off to your secret lab, prep your special stealth armor then use it to break into the territory of a sovereign nation to kidnap one of their citizens, and the upon being discovered decide to start attacking everyone when being given the chance to walk away.
That shit is premeditated
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>>83628979
Who is that Inhuman that looks like he's a character from Mortal Kombat?
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>>83636547
Triton. For some reason he wears a breathing mask on his face now even though he's never had one because he has fucking gills, the water tubes are supposed to go into his gills, not his mouth. It really sucks because without facial expressions he's even blander than usual.
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>>83636108
>territory of a sovereign nation
Says who, Medua?
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>>83628979
Didn't Ulysses admit in the CWII Spider-man mini that his predictions don't always come true?

He's not 100% reliable, they should not use him. Why are they fighting over this? Besides Marvel making $$$
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>>83635782
Oh boy. Just wait until Carol will become the leader of the Avengers.
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>>83636613
The US government and the UN recognize New Attilan as sovereign territory. That's a lot more than that piece of rock Cyclops proclaimed to be a coutry ever got.
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>>83636633
>Didn't Ulysses admit in the CWII Spider-man mini that his predictions don't always come true?
He did, yeah.
And just wait the prediction he made to Spidey will bite him in the ass because he's already assuming Harry will go bad, and then it turns out it's one of the other bad guys he tries to give a second chance and at the same time he drives Harry to become Goblin again.
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>>83636688
So New Attilan is basically Genosha. I sure hope it will end the same way
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>>83636633
The reason they don't always come true is because the fact that Ulysses tells people that it comes true changes the natural course of events, like if a person from the future came back in time to warn you about something. If Ulysses hadn't had the vision, that's how things would have gone.
And saying you shouldn't use him because he's not 100% reliable is a fallacy. Nothing is 100% reliable, Ulysses is a valuable source of intel whose saved countless lives. If Ulysses says an earthquake is coming (which he has twice), are you saying we should ignore him?
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>>83636792
Thing is will is STOP at that. Spidey already Ulysses could help them from making scientifics ventures that would lead into dead ends. Which is kind of using him for selfish gains if you ask me.
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>>83636867
>Which is kind of using him for selfish gains if you ask me.
No, it would help them prioritize certain projects which means they will be developed faster and will thus be able to benefit humanity sooner. Scientific pursuit isn't a selfish goal, Peter Parker isn' even in this for the money, he has a very low salary.
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So is Tony willing to kill Ulysses for indirectly killing Rhodey?
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>>83636923
Snowball effect. Eventually someone will use him like that.
And if not, getting too reliant in him is bad. Imagine they get used to it and then we get another Secret Invasion shit and Ulysses has been replaced?
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>>83636974
Tony is willing to start Space Race War because his token black friend died doing the dangerous job they all do every day.
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>>83629032
>>83629047
>My friend died
>So I'm gonna murder this person
>Instead of the person who killed my friend
What is the conflict of this series even going to revolve around, Tony having a fucking temper tantrum?
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>>83637008
Honestly, I'd take any reason I got to punch Medusa's face in too.
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>Ulysses

Do Americans really name their kids Ulysses?
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Interesting that Bendis is ready to make the side wrong that has his husbando on it.
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>>83636977
Ulysses! What will happen if I order Chinese tonight?
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>>83636974
>>83637030
He's not willing to kill, but he's clearly willing to kidnap and presumably hold him captive somewhere. Not sure what his plan would be after that.
We know his plan fails based on solicits.

>>83637052
Ulysses S. Grant was President of the USA
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>>83636663
Well she's already in charge of sword and Canada's premier super hero team, having fused them into one entity, and she's pretty much the leader of a-force what's one more group.
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>>83637065
By ordering chow mein, you will indirectly plunge this nation into World War III and the entire galaxy into irreversible annihilation.
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>A-Force
Don't think so
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Wonder what will cause this if Carol's side is gonna be right at the end.
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>>83637090
>Well she's already in charge of sword and Canada's premier super hero team
This seems really really retarded.

Why would you merge such unrelated things together with vastly different jurisdictions? There's enough heroes around for a team to protect Canada and another to focus on space based threats.
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>>83637154
There women aren't fighting, they are about to have lesbian sex.

I mean look at the bondage Red has galaxy slut in, and punkbitch-Dazzler tenderly stroking her face while she does it.
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>>83637317
Part of me wishes it's all a big plan to eventually blow up.
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>>83637352
It's probably gonna go down with Medusa once again wanting to do shit with Singularity and Nico and Dazzler not standing for that shit again.
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>>83637229
At the end of the latest issue Ulysses seemed to have a vision about something bad involving Bruno. That's probably why.
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>>83637120
But I won't get diarrhea right?
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>>83637617
The only way to avoid THAT is to avoid Chinese entirely.
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>>83637052
He was going to be called Homer, but that was one of the things people laughed about when the leaks happened. So they changed it to Ulysses.
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>>83637052
>>83637847
So he's supposed to be named after the Odissey.
I must admit I've never read it, is there anything in that work about prophecies that could in some way be related to Civil War II?
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>>83629032
>it's a Tony kidnaps and murders a hobo event

At least they're not even being subtle that he's a psychopath.
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>>83638031
Ulysses is too attractive to be a hobo
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>>83631257
Ironically, the Spider-Man tie-in avoids that problem entirely.

>"Hey, he's going to do a thing."
>"Let's trail him so we can take him out when we have evidence he's going to do a thing before he can do it."
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>>83629059
>>83629047
I can't wait for Tony to kill Inhumans and then try to explain why it's okay when HE does it.
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>>83637932
There were many prophecies in the Illiad and the Odyssey. But because of the Greek belief system, the prophecies ALWAYS came true, you can never defy the will of the gods no matter how hard you try.
So I guess Ulysses is supposed to be the exact opposite?
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>>83638228
Why were the Greeks such faggots?
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So, Magneto is also gonna attack Attilan to try and kill Ulysses, right?
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>>83638492
Because they know for a fact that their gods are colossal bastards.
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>>83639038
Well it's their own fault for making all those stories about their gods being colossal bastards.
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>>83634748
>>83634808
>>83634793
Besides, Ewing is putting
him aside in New Avengers. And this preview art of the event with him pointing his arrows to someone.
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>>83635151
He does, that's why Clint ends killing him, probably. I'm guessing Clint doesn't know and hadn't intended to kill him. It wouldn't be the first time. That's my current hope.
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>>83634748
>Bendis doesn't care about Clint and has fucked him up at least 2 or 3 times
To put it in perspective, Bendis has written more events where Hawkeye gets killed than events where he doesn't.
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>>83639786
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>>83635649
>Forgets that he shot the Hulk into space
>after he did something
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>>83639712
Damn, three instances of Hawkeye killing Banner right under our noses.
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>>83629014
Is the statue of liberty in New Attilian? Is it in New York?
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>>83640095
New Attilan is in the Hudson River, close to the Statue of Liberty.
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>>83639786
And he even mocked about doing so in an annual with lots of sexy Clint, thank goodness.
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>>83638117
>>83631694
>>83631055
>>83629127
>>83629156
>>83629211

>getting mad because bendis doesn't have HIS iron man job to inhumans

what a ride you guys are in for
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>>83640317
If Bendis loves Iron Man so much, then why did he give him such a stupid illogical motivation?
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>>83629047
>>83629059
Inhuman jobbing is great.
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>>83636663
She's already lead the Avengers, a decade ago.
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>>83640494
Because Bendis is a genuinely stupid person. Like, all writing talents or creativity aside, he's just not a smart person.
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>>83635782
Xfag here. Cant open link because i am in a subway with s crappy cellphone. What does it say about muties
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>>83628979
Civil Bore or Drivel War?
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>>83641291
It says that the existence of Xmen is going to make time explode so some nebulous intelligence from the future will send assassins through time to murder Xmen.

And supposedly things are solved by sending all mutants to their own timeline separate from everyone else.
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>>83641417
If that happens i will consider xmen to have had a beginning and end. But the end would be Cyclops fotming the X with his arms at the end of Gillens run.

I woul see everything from bendis on as non canon
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>>83636688
How'd the Inhumans get them to do that, threaten to drop another horrifying uncontrollable death cloud on the world?
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>>83641910
By actually being diplomatic. The Inhumans promised to help deal with the new Inhumans and the terrigen cloud and they did, almost all of them are kept under control (Lash has fortunately not created a Brotherhood of Evil Inhumans and tried publicly taking over the world). The Inhumans have gone out of their way to maintain good relations and have given governments many incentives for cooperating with them.
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>>83641910
humanity learned to stop worrying and love the deadly Inhuman poison
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>>83628999
>Johnny and Crystal flying off to cuck Medusa
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>>83641910
The mist isn't a threat to non muggas.
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>>83629059
Karnak buried to the center of the Earth, fuck you and your run Warren Ellis! t. Benis
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>>83629126

>The Accused

Hawkeye Trial Confirmed
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what if bendis had seeded that carol and the inhumans were close enough for carol to hid ulysses in her apartment
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>>83642204
I'm just shocked that of all the things from KSD's run for them to keep, it was having an apartment in the statue of liberty.
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>>83629156
Yeah, because Karate Man can hang with the motherfucking Iron Avenger. Stark has built weapons that shattered the Phoenix Force, you think a guy with the power of super board breaking is going to take him?
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>>83642366
His power is to find the flaw in all things. He would be able find the exact weak point in Tony's suit that if he were to hit, it would shatter the entire armor in one blow.

Of course, this would require him to HIT that spot, which is impossible if Tony is too fast in his armor for Karnak to get a hit in. Or if he just flies up in the air so Karnak can't reach it. Or if Tony hits him with a uni-beam and knocks him out before he can get close.

It doesn't matter if you can do a one-hit KO if you can't get a hit in.
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Based hawkeye
I'm curious to see what happens

I'm pretty sure you guys are right and bendis finds a way to fuck mah boi over again
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>>83642571

no

it is possible to be able to see the flaw in something and not be able to do anything about it

for example, he may be able to see the exact spot in which to hit a diamond to shatter it using the less power possible, but he may not be able to do it with a punch, he may not be strong enough to take advantage of the weakness.

Karnak fans treat him like a tennis player practicing with a wall, and not playing against another person.
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Iron Man's dialogue should be "I'm Dirty Dan!"
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>>83631694
>Bendis' whole writing style is just a child mashing his action figures against each other while sitting in a sandbox
That's Johns though.
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>>83645879
There's a reason Johns gets called DC Bendis.
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>>83629032
Tony, you're drunk.
Go home.
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>>83645879
>>83646580
Incorrect.
They have the same strategy, but John's stuff is generally enjoyable.
Bendis is Bizarro Johns.
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>>83634748
>>83634793
>>83634808
rip Bruce and Clint's rep
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>>83629059
I haven't touched Marvel in ages, why is Black Bolt not there to push Tony's shit in.
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>>83649731
He did some bad things and so he is no longer king, Medusa divorced him, and he is exiled from Attilan.
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>>83649808
Death to the patriarchy.
Thanks
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