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A Civil War II tie-in?
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>>83599243
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>>83599273
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>>83599294
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>>83599334
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>>83599334
>"I need you to find the Supreme Commander of AIM, who has all the resources that name implies!"
>"Can I get literally any help from another agent, or maybe question someone?"
>"Nope. Now get to work!"
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>>83599358
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>>83599273
sorry for sounding like a sjw (I am actually a conservative and not American), but Roberto was whitewashed completely. We have active X-Men storytime threads right now with New Mutants from the 80s and he was clearly a half black half white mulato with african features.
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>>83599385
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>>83599294
>Because Roberto Da Costa's always been halfway to a heel turn
Hey there, Reignfire doen't count, it was retconned into not being him.
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>>83599394
A lot happens in 30 years, Anon.
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>>83599407
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>>83599385
>By the power of EXCELSIOR!
Bravo Ewing
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>>83599435
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>>83599407
>The platonic ideal of a "bad guy" wearing a flesh suit
Ewing making fun of how generic this cosmic menace is I see
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>>83599435
The fuck is in Iron holding in his arms?
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>>83599458
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>>83599435
Is it the first time acknowledged that squirrels are not suited to superhero fights and they surely die a lot in crossfire?
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>>83599474
Bendis is right that continuity means the best writers are held hostage by the worst, but that doesn't mean the good writers can't take the piss at bad ideas.
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>>83599479
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>>83599394
Being black was literally part of his origin right? Like how he was treated
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>>83599243
>black guy beating on folks
>ewing
haha, no thanks.
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>>83599506
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>>83599510
I dunno, going by literally the page above you, he's still got pretty dark skin.
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>>83599530
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>>83599524
>getting triggered by a superhero taking out henchmen
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>>83599552
SCAT
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>>83599294
Really, Hill? After all the shit you pulled last month, you think You're taking the high ground here?
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>>83599500
Pretty much all the squirrels died in Great Lake Avengers. In fact, that's what makes Tippy Toe so special, she was the only one who survived.
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>>83599572
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>>83599394

I have good news for you then. He's not mulato, or african.

He's Brazillian, not african. Their tan is agressively "come and go". Therefore he can go from almost black to almost white depending on how much sun he's been getting lately
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>>83599458
Feels kind of stupid that they can just deal with a Celestial with "All our powers together now".

Celestials were once a thing where Thor hitting one with all his power couldn't really damage it, and he was basically the strongest hero.

Now all the cosmic entities in the franchise are just giant things to beat up effortlessly by the heroes on Earth, when previously they were untouchable entities that spoke to a greater lore of the universe, and made everything feel much bigger by showing how far down humans were on the scales at times.
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>>83599394
When I read New Mutants he looked to me rather like dark-skinned latino guy. Or rather this was inflicted by his behaviour.
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>>83599592
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>>83599572
I'm conflicted on how Ewing writes The Maker. On the other hand, he was a pretty serious character when written well. On the other hand, he's still competent even while being written as a cartoon character, and I like to think he's doing it on purpose.
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>>83599435
>Hellstrom readying the magical volleyball
>Wiccan set up for the serve
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>>83599608
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>>83599435

MUH SQUIRRELS
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>>83599600
Blame Bendis, Anon.
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>>83599624
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>>83599592
>>83599608
I don't think Paibok and these guys are the kind that would be content sitting around waiting and doing nothing all day.
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>>83599646
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>>83599646
This is getting ham-fisted
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>>83599653
White Tiger is still under The Hand's control, and they told her to basically do whatever he says.
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>>83599663
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>>83599530

they got you there
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>>83599680
I'm reminded of Incredible.
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>>83599680
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>>83599394
>sorry for sounding like a sjw (I am actually a conservative and not American)

No one cares. Just jump to your point and move on.
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>>83599479
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvjzSu9RIcI
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>>83599552

>Three days later congress aproves funding for a ANTI CAVIAR EAGLE DEFENSE AVENGERS team
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>>83599704
>Songbird still wearing her Thunderbolts belt

She doesn't know about the rest of the team, right?
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>>83599552

Oh shit, I know *that* font.
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>>83599479
OK. I giggled like an idiot at the ringtone he set for Roberto.
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>>83599600
The power creep is real.
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>>83599600

well, there's two explanations for that which you can take over than "lolbendis"

On one hand, they don't defeat him with a group spell. They defeat the rift the celestial depends on to manifest, which takes considerably less effort

On the other hand, there's "cosmic" and then there's "cosmic". By which I mean, Cosmics mostly exist on a metaphysical level, and their manifestation onto our plane begins with an avatar that isn't as powerful as they are, but grows progressively strongers. Like a "fingernail in our reality"
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>>83599572
>He comes in slices

That will never stop being funny.
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>>83599600
We don't know if its an actual Celestial, not even Dr. Strange knows. They just call it Celestial Destructor because it needed a name.
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>>83599833
I've got a feeling that will happen to him in the end. Like an extralong brick joke.
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>>83599646

YUU

ASS

AYY

>>83599667

Are you new to this book?

New avengers has always been "HAM, THE MUSICAL"
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>>83599435
I hate it when event comics kill off characters
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Could someone storytime the Civil War II: Spider-Man issue? It's by Gage, not Slott, so it should be good.
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>>83599857
I dunno, he seems to just be mentioning what happened at the end of Secret Wars. Doing it twice wouldn't be as funny.
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>>83600210
Mentioning continuity and joking about it is Ewing-like.
Mentioning something that just happened in the past each time is not. Unless it will take a role in the future when we'll get used and won't pay enough attention to it anymore. In an incredible and, given the New Avengers tone, hilarious way. That is something Al would do.
At least in my opinion.
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>>83599394
The mistake you are making is thinking that today's creator's give any fucks about what happened in any series/ character past before they took it over.
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>>83599407

Wow, Ewing is taking the shit out of Bendis' lazy writing, I love it.
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>>83600849

Ewing gave a master class on magic in Agent of Asgard, as Magic = Meta

So whenever someone like that shows up, expect comentary
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>>83599595
He was Afro-Brazilian
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>>83600883

I still need to catch up on that series. I'm embarrassed to say I was completely ignorant of Ewing until American Kaiju slapped me across the face and made me pay attention. Now I'm scrambling to pick up his books I missed.
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>>83599592
rats vs squirrel..soon
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Oh my god I didn't even realize that's what he's building up to, isn't it?

It's gonna be spectacular.
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>>83599624
>SOME KIND OF MACHINE CODE?
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>>83599592
When will be given a reason for why these guys are working for Maker (White Tiger aside)? They're just standing around posing while Maker speechifies, won't they get bored?
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>>83599592

So let's see if I get this right

It's Paibok vs Hulkling,
Asti vs Wiccan,
Angar vs Songbird
White Tiger vs White Tiger
Skar vs Pod
Vermin vs Squirrel Girl
Maker vs DaCosta
Aaaaaaaand
Omnicron vs .. Hawkeye?
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>>83599407
>The platonic ideal of a "bad guy" wearing a flesh suit
So basically the Celestial Destructor was the physical manifestation of an Event-tier Big Bad? Which would mean that in the untampered timeline (the one where Ulysses didn't interfere), we would have basically just gotten a full event comic about all the superheroes teaming up to take it down, but because Ulysses interfered, we got Civil War II instead.

So instead of superheroes uniting against the Big Bad, Ulysses caused the Big Bad to get taken out prematurely, resulting in Thanos having to take the role as the Event Big Bad, then when THAT was also taken care of, we'll likely get Hulk as the event Big Bad, but then once Hawkeye kills Banner thanks to Ulysses, all that'll be left is Civil War since the heroes won't have anything left to unite against?

I actually rather like that idea. The universe keeps trying to give the superheroes a foe for them to put aside their differences and work together to beat but because of Ulysses' visions, they never get the opportunity, leaving them with nothing but each other to fight against.

As always, Ewing is salvaging Bendis' garbage.
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>>83599506
I love the zebra kids, too bad they can't have Thor and Hyperion bro it up with them anymore
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>>83599592

Skar? Who the fuck is Skar?
>last major appearance was in Amazing Adventures 1974

Hot damn.
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>>83599572
THE MAKER

OH MY GOD

THE MAKER

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
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>>83601512
It's basically Final Destination with an equivalent of Pratchett's Death, trying to restore the order of things frantically while the fucking heroes shit all over his work.
Wouldn't be surprised if we got a scene with Molecule Man tossing a controller and materialising in 616 to kill Ulysses.
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>>83599365
Shit like this is why her job's on the line.
Should we start a betting pool over who the next SHIELD leader's going to be?
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The quips are off the hook on this one
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Where can I go to read this online for free?
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>>83601727
>>83599592
Is this supposed to be Skar from Killraven's alternate future, or the 616 Skar that showed up in the 90s?
Regardless, pretty damn obscure, I wonder why Ewing is using him.
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>>83601899
>I wonder why Ewing is using him
He's trying to make an anti-New Avengers team. POD doesn't have any arch-enemies though, so he presumably went "I need someone with a hole for a face" to match POD aesthetically.

Also he's a Weapon of Mars and POD was created by Ex Nihilo's martian evolution bombs.

So they both have somewhat martian origins, both are living weapons, and both have that same hole-face look except one is all robotic while the other is all-organic. All told, its actually a pretty good for an Anti-POD.
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>>83601899

The way the official Marvel wiki was linking me took me to his 691 page, and also the page that mentioned 616 recently got a bunch of alternate universe characters rolled in. Plus, that Skar was actually from Mars while the 616 one from 1994 was just a space pirate. We'll see, though!
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>>83599358
Since when did colossus get a beard? Is this the future one from Bendis run?
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>>83601508
Hawkeye is the designated jobber who gets taken out early to establish how badass the New Revengers are.
Either that, or he bows out of the book because the rumors of him being involved in Civil War II's main plot are true.
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>>83599294
>Using the power corrupts argument when you run Shield
That's so hypocritical you can literally smell the bullshit. Goddamn I hate Maria.
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>>83602045
>Either that, or he bows out of the book because the rumors of him being involved in Civil War II's main plot are true.
Hawkeye leaves when Wiccan gets contacted by AIM kind of implies he won't be involved in New Avengers anymore. Damn >>83599530
I guess Clint really is gonna killl Banner.
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>>83601237
You should read his Mighty Avengers. The secret wars tie in that ended that series is probably my favorite issue in the past 5 years.
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>>83599294
>Because A.I.M. is A.I.M. Is A.I.M.

Having a stroke, Maria?
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>>83599479
>>83599407

In the words of Prince...

You sexy mother.
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>>83599504
>Best writers are held hostage by the worst
He does know that he's the one holding hostages, right?
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>>83599572
>WHISPER insect dude has vids of Songbird, Squirrel Girl and White Tiger in the bathroom
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>>83599624
That is a happy Orrgo
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>>83603053

Do you think Hulkling poops? I mean, he's a physical manifestation of Wiccan's ideal boyfriend, right?
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>>83599506
I have a new found appreciation for the New Mutants.
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>people actually like this garbage
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>>83603261
Hulkling ate a lot of food in the previous numbers so I assume he can poop. Now the question is if POD poops.
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>>83599663
So is every SHIELD agent evil now?
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>>83603578

No? This isn't even really evil. He was told to find AIM, he's finding AIM. He's just bending the rules and brainwashing a few people to do it.
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>>83599435
Savage, Doreen.
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>>83599595
You forget a big chunk of Brazil is mixed with africans m8.

He was whitewashed. Better said, he doesn't know Roberto's facial features, let alone his race. Most modern marvel artists don't even know the basics of their characters

Eventually a fan of the NM will draw him properly. I hope.

>>83599479
"the rift to our world has been sealed"

"we closed the door celestials effortlessly opened, there's no way they'll open them again"
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>>83599506
Dats some wrinkle in time shit right there.
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>>83599608

>amirite?

Come the fuck on
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>>83601512
OR Ulysses' visions cause these things to happen. The only reason the Celestial Destructor appeared is because Ulysses "saw" it. That's also why Thanos showed up. He warps reality to match his "visions."

They're going to have to kill him to stop these catastrophes from continuing to happen.
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>>83599608
I love how the plan is to wait for the heroes to do something retarded.
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>>83600444
Except Ewing is all about dat continuity.
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>>83605587
Luckily for him, most Marvel stories revolve around the heroes doing something retarded.
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>>83606019
And Ewing isn't the colorist.
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>>83599524
Where you always a faggot or did years of sucking /pol/ do it to you?
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>>83601852
>Should we start a betting pool over who the next SHIELD leader's going to be?
I'm betting Roberto Da Costa.
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>>83599294
Man, fuck off Maria. You should be in a prison cell right now. Why you're still in charge is beyond me!
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>>83599294
I can stop seeing her as a villain. I honestly think she's more a bad person which each new story.
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>>83599273
I want to hatefuck Maria Hill.
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Please stop bullying Maria. She is my hard-nosed pixie-cut waifu.

She's just a jerky leader, but so was Nick Fury.
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>>83599479
>Magnum PI theme
Ewing you glorious motherfucker. I fucking love these nods to New Mutants.
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>>83607181
A mutant in a position of authority over non-mutant Superhumans? It'll never happen.
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>>83606178
That's exactly why it's funny on multiple levels.
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>>83599407
I love this writing. Fucking love it.
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>>83601508
You forgot Powerman. I think he'll be a better matchup for an Omni-Computer.
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>>83599530
You can't get off Mr. DeCosta's wild ride, Billy.
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>>83599592
>until then
>WE MUST WATCH THEEEEEEM
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>>83602038
Since Extraordinary X-Men started because...reasons
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>>83599506
>>83599530
Clint, he just has to drop his hearing aids. Classic silly for fun.
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time for Ewing to fix shit
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>>83607632
We shall overcome!
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>>83599294
Holy shit this writing sucks.
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>>83607407
I have some good news. there's another hard-nosed pixie-cut waifu available. and she's not a conniving, manipulative bitch!
on the minus side, she's a violent proto-fascist closeted lesbian
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>>83610084

Okay but here me out here, if we get a red-head pixie-cut hard-nosed authoritarian character, we can complete the set.
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>>83610357
excellent point. I can't think of one in Marvel, but in DC there's Batwoman if buzzcuts are acceptable.
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>>83610357
Well, you could try and give Angela a haircut.
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>>83599273
Maria, you just almost got the world conquered by Zemo.
Go fuck yourself.
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>>83599717
So I guess this makes DeCosta Higgins.
And Doreen is TC!
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>>83599608

>trating
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>>83599667
That's Shitish writers for you.
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>>83599663
inb4 Dum Dum's real body is stored in the safehouse
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>letting Teddy use his centaur form outside the bedroom
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>>83599411
I still find it dumb that they're using that terminology in their world. Like they just think every super hero or villain is defined by wrestling terms. I know the fans use it, but...
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>>83601891
Several pages up?
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>>83608274
>implying that Peter's beard isn't one of the best things about Extraordinary.
But seriously, He, Magik, and the New X-Men kids make that series worth reading
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>>83599435
F
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>>83600366

"There's at least 10 SA-X on the station right now Samus"
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>>83599530
props to the artist for making SG cute and endearing yet not generically sexy.
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>>83599506
Are Clint and Teddy wearing the same shirt?
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>>83608274
Is to show Colossus is finally Russian Adult Man, and not Tiny Baby.
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>>83623644
Aja and McKelvie redesigned them at the same time and had the same idea. McKelvie was asked about it once, I'll see if I can find the post.
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>>83605587
>A Civil War II tie-in
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>>83623644
It was on sale
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>>83603705
which is, like, standard SHIELD procedure when Nick Fury isn't there to fuck your shit up for that.
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>>83600366
maybe Reed is STILL in slices? Just kept together by the costume?
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>>83599833
I dont get it, can someone explain this to me?
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>>83629836
I think the implication is that each piece of the Maker ended up in a different universe, so you've got one hiveminded Maker spread across the multiverse.
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>>83631254
molecule man turned the maker into sliced pizza and ate him
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