Hype Containment Thread
predictions
>critics will 180 on the film after seeing it
>highest selling bluray of all time
>will set the stage for justice league box office blow out
Is OP a troll? I honestly can't tell anymore.
>>83591186
Came across more sarcastic to me.
>>83591186
no i'm not trolling. bruh the trailer looks goat. don't know if you've seen it.
https://youtu.be/8AO19XY2rqc
Are the Batman and Superman Blu-ray covers going to be bundled together or do I have to buy 2 different cases?
>>83591265
i think there's multiple. i plan to buy all for the sake of completion.
now you relive that torturous experience on your own couch!
>>83591342
Seriously fuck off. You have dozens of threads to post positive things in and you come here to be a dick. Fuck you. BvS was a good movie. I liked it. I don't need your fucking validation. Now get out.
>>83591342
I genuinely loved BvS and really wanted to see the ultimate cut.
>>83591308
Yeah, same. They look really nice.
>>83591154
I hope that those early rumors about Batman coming across Aquaman at Lex Corp are true.
>>83591376
>BvS was a good movie
You can like it all you want, but it wasn't a good movie
Release date, famalam?
I just want to see the fan edits that come about with all the unreleased and cut footage.
>>83591154
I don't think it'll change a lot of minds but it looks like there's more character development in this version, which could make it a much better movie.
>>83591412
I'm sort of the same.
While I didn't love it and left disappointed I would've much rather watched an extended version.
Also the producer Charles Roven spoke about a 4hr cut but I don't think we'll get that. Maybe in the extras
>>83591484
>>83591451
>>83591376
>faggots detected
movies shit
>>83591154
>critics will 180 on the film after seeing it
Didn't the director of photography literally say the ultimate cut won't change your mind if you hate the original?
If part of your sales campaign is "the directors cut will be way better!" your movie fucking failed. You can like it, thats fine, but even WB knows it didnt meet standards
>>83591705
But it did meet standards you fool. It made hundreds of millions and they even rehired Snyder. He must have been doing something right. I think the executives at WB know more about the films than some shitposter like you.
>>83591236
>no i'm not trolling
Sure you aren't
>>83591154
lmao
>>83591772
>all this damage control
kek
>>83591802
You marvelshits are so pathetic. Anyone who legitimately likes BvS is shunned as a troll or a moron. Maybe you're the fucking moron.
>>83591772
>Im the shitposter
Nice one anon, love the thread by the way. Of course if by some small chance that you do believe that then may god have mercy on your stupid, stupid, soul
>Snyder's wife is the reason we got Lexenberg
I'm still mad
>>83591772
>and they even rehired Snyder.
That's not the vote of confidence you think it is given that his contract is such that he'd get paid regardless and they "rehired" him before the thing was even out.
But reality is shitposting this movie now so whatever.
>>83591154
This image will never stop being amusing.
Oh /co/, whether you're an Arrowfag or Snyderfag you're so full of battered housewives.
>>83591838
>>83591844
I think you're supposed to be damage controlling the movie, not sperging out
>>83591892
Um...I was intentional being a dick to the obvious shitposter anon, the movie was flawed and I didnt think it was worth explaining why to him because he already knows it was a fucking mess
>>83591963
it wasn't a mess. that's the opinion of the children and casuals who couldn't follow the fucking plot. i hate you.
I'm not the kind of guy that tells people they're wrong for liking a thing, but you're delusional if you think you're in the majority.
>>83591999
Youre trying to hard anon. Seriously /tv/ BvS shitposters need to be cleansed from this board
>>83591154
This is a DVD advertisement.
Honestly enjoyed the fuck out of this movie and I swear 2 god it's probably my second favorite superhero movie after Spider-Man 2.
Am I weird /co/?
>>83592023
>Youre trying to hard anon.
You can't even into basic spelling and grammar. Looks like you're the shitposter, anon.
>>83591772
They were literally scheduled to start filming Justice League Part 1 ten days after BvS premiered. If they fired him they would have to delay production of the movie, which would set off a panic and tank their stock. They literally had no choice but to keep him.
His leash is extremely short now. Johns was brought on to reign him in.
I heard the shitty initial reviews for the film, then heard that they were going to release an R rated extended cut... So I held off on seeing it in theaters.
Looking forward to this release.
>>83592051
Yes. You simultaneously can recognize something great like Spider-man 2, but like something as genuinely horrible as BvS.
What the fuck, anon.
>>83592075
Yeah, but what the fuck do they think is going to happen when JL comes out, its inevitably shit, and ruins the DC brand even further?
>>83592075
>His leash is extremely short now.
Is it?
>>83592135
I'm a DCfag which might explain it
>>83592072
>Oh no! A typing error where I said "to" instead of "too"
>Y-Your the shitposter!!!
Sad. Again you can like the movie anon, just dont be delusional
>>83592162
I hope not. Let Snyder be Snyder. It's been a formula for great movies. Fuck the public if they don't recognize it.
I liked it, and I'm hoping this version will fix some of the flaws I found with it.
>>83592166
I'm a DCfag too and I can recognize Snyder is ruining everything
>>83591154
>>will set the stage for justice league box office blow out
nice, finally i can change my grade from a solid 9 to a solid 10.
>>83591154
This new version is still not going to fucking change the whole "MARTHA WHY'D YOU SAY DAT NAME"
Overall, it's just going from a shitty film to a slightly less shitty film.That being said, I'm still hyped for it because I get to see Batfleck again.
>>83591154
It will flop like the theatrical version. Justice League will, too.
>>83592659
>flashfag complaining about a scene with actual impact
Shouldn't you go back to meme your IT WAS ME BARRY? which is on the same level of the twist of Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
>>83592159
I don't know, but I can guarantee Snyder won't be blamed for any of it for some reason
>>83592726That's Zoom, not RF.
>>83591154Dawn of Justice a shit
[Spoiler] Civil War was leagues better than this shit
>Standing ovation
>Every extended scene praised
>Being called the next kingdom of heaven DC
>Literally everyone loved it
I just wanted to tell all the naysayers to eat shit. It's over. You've lost.
>>83591666
Bruh
>>83592941
LOOK AT THIS DOODE
>>83592659
But that scene makes sense when you understand Batman's obsession and trauma. He is forever stuck in that alleyway
>BvS director's cut
>hype
You know what this all reminds me of? MGSV act 3. And it'a gonna end just like that.
>>83591154
More like a 360
>>83591186
It's a satire.
>>83593081
Now post the Oscars one
>>83592988
MGSV was supposed to be a 5-chapter story untill Konami fired Kojima.
Meanwhile, Zack Snyder basically had no limit making BvS.
>>83592963
>He is forever stuck in that alleyway
Nice dude, you got ir right. so rare in co/
the whole mastha thing was planned from the very first fucking scene with dr wayna saying "Martha" then luthor in the helipad "Martha martha marth" and finally supes when he is about to be impaled. seriously co/ ... don't worry you have me
I wasn't overly enthused by BvS as a whole, but I am curious to see how much of a difference the extended cut makes.
>>83591154
A stupid animated movie just hit 1 billion as Captain America Civil War made more money than any of the Nolan Bat movies. There will probably be some extra curiosity sales for this if they don't do something stupid (which is doubtful) the way Fox did in releasing fifteen different versions + the Rogue Cut, as separate products. So, no way it will be the highest selling Bluray of all time. It won't even be the highest selling Bluray of this year.
Also, critics don't really review Blurays. There will be a few sites that critique the extras and so forth and call them reviews, but the Meta Critic and RTs scores won't change and neither will the published reviews.
Will it help JL Part 1? I don't really think so, the trailer looks like a few quiet moments that explain the convoluted what happened with Lois part of the plot from the beginning but it sounds like it's just extra violence and punching. The people that like that already liked the theatrical cut so no, it won't really improve anything.
>>83593395
It's a totally different and very special movie just for you, but you'll have to buy it to know all the subtle and incredibly important differences.Buy it.Buy it you shit.Spend your fucking money on our fucking product multiple times. Buy our products you worthless consumer meat.Keep your hand open and obedient.
Who /pre-order/ here?
Too bad they didn't add a spot for "the directors cut will be great"
Are you ready, /co/?
>>83593959
This might be the first time I want to stick it to Jena Malone
When does it come out?
>>83594089
Snyder does it again
>>83594366
I said stick it to her, not stick her in a Christ like position
>>83593104
>>83592209
The studio doesn't care if a movie is "great" or not.
They only care about whether ot not the movie is making them money.
After BvS, the DCU is on really thin ice, so WB is going into full panic mode right now.
>>83594392
What, you've never done it crucifixion style? What a virgin.
is there a torrent already?
>>83593959
Finally Snyder did something right. I can't wait for #Olicity to hit the big screen.
>>83593695
lel, fuck if im going to buy it dude, ill either rent it from a video store or download a rip of it fool.
A good director's cut can elevate an already strong movie, or salvage a troubled one (like how the director's cut changed 2003 Daredevil from 'an abomination before God and man' to 'still kind of shitty, but watchable'), but it's pretty rare for one to fundamentally change a film and fix all of its problems. And frankly, when one of your movie's problems is that it's too dour and packed full of too much shit, an R-rated cut with even more shit wedged in is probably not the correct solution
>>83594937
Pleb detected.
>>83594937
Once Upon a Time in America and Kingdom of Heaven are the only ones that spring to mind where the director's cut straight up fixed the movie. If you think Snyder is on the same level as those directors, though, you'll probably be disappointed when the blu-ray hits.
>>83594937
RLM chat about that on their Previously Recorded streams. And judgement being 30 minutes of footage cannot fix a two and a half hour problem.
>>83591868
>only redeeming aspect is the fight choreography
>>83592926
Look at Affleck's desperation in his eyes.
>>83595380
How is that confusing to you
Literally nothing in any Snyder movie is worth watching besides fight scenes and even then, there are some really stupid things in them
>>83595443
I feel bad for him, he seems like he really just wanted to make a good movie and be a good Batman.
I think I'd honestly like a behind the scenes tell-all of this film's development. Something like the Disaster Artist, a book where someone involved in the production goes into the various whys and hows of what led to this film being made the way it was.
>>83595593
I hate what Snyder has done, and that's why I want his Batman movie to be a giant success.
Just hope WB doesn't go full retard and push for Affleck to take charge and produce all movies. Doubt that's what he would want.
>>83595582
I'm not confused at that statement.
I'm just astonished that anyone actually believes that
Snyder's fight scenes are fucking terrible. Mostly CGI, chaotic and no real choreography behind them. I feel like I'm watching a western developed video game cutscene when I'm watching Snyder fights.
>>83595644
... I haven't seen MoS in years. Holy shit what even is this fight? Gonna have to disagree with you here, there are plenty of video games with better fight choreography.
>>83595644
>I'm just astonished that anyone actually believes that
It's the scalefags. They think that a shitload of property damage equates to good choreography.
>>83595691
>here are plenty of video games with better fight choreography.
Well, there's a reason I mentioned western developed games.
A majority of them don't know a damn thing about animation. They all heavily depend on motion capture.
>>83595734
>It's the scalefags. They think that a shitload of property damage equates to good choreography.
I must have shit taste then. I loved Ant-Man's fight scenes.
>>83595765
The Old Republic is cheating and you know it. Still, I think I get you.
How many posts itt is this guy responsible for?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gkDRhKTi5uw
>>83595582
>Literally avoid it instead of stopping it in order not to cause destruction
>>83591154
I'll definitely torrent it when it's available. I'd rather sit through a ridiculously long, bloated movie than a ridiculously long, bloated movie with a bunch of important scenes cut out.
>>83591342
better than the torturous experience that is your life lmao
I'm pumped, f a m. It looks like they further explain Killbat, and that terrorist's speech sounds pretty awesome.
im pretty excited.
I'm playing Arkham Knight using the BvS skin right now
Critics will not do a 180, because those people who disliked Eisenberg Luthor, The piss jar, Batman murdering, Superman having struggles, they won't suddenly forgive those and will continue to be "NOT MAH BAHRMAN UND SUPPAHMAN"
>>83596831
samefag. lets not forget the whole lex luthor marketing files and flash dream sequence, those scenes were nothing more than padding.
The whole not muh shit is retarded. How long are people going to be literal retards when discussing works of fiction.
Most of the complaints in regards to writing are full blown retarded
>>83593669
and your point being?
>>83596666
yeah it sounds cool and epic as f*ck
>>83595966
>Masterpiece two point zero squared.
HAHAHAHAHAH
>>83597241
Especially when it's professional film critics acting like they have a muh batman to complain about not seeing.
I'm just hoping that the extended cut fixes some of the issues the theatrical cut had.
It's possible this could be a Watchmen Directors cut situation. Where the DC saves the movie.
>>83594697
That image makes me boil with rage.
Why are this kind of people allowed to live?
>>83595582
>I thought it was a water tank
>>83595582
Not an argument.
>>83593081
mum get the camera
>>83593395
makes it longer
>>83592726
>which is on the same level of the twist of Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
What did he meme by this?
>>83595172
Don't forget The Big Red One.
>>83591154
Already pre-ordered it. My girlfriend and I are going to watch it back to back with Man of Steel when it comes out. I'm fucking hype.
I really don't care what the critics say, or whether or not it changes their minds. I liked the movie a lot, and I feel like this cut has a good chance of making me love it. I'm not really sure why they cut what they did, but I have a feeling it was just a lot of stupid executive decisions instead of actual creative ones that led to Superman's more sympathetic scenes being left on the cutting room floor.
>>83595644
>Superman battles should be men on strings with no power or impact behind their blows...
Shove it up your fucking ass.
>>83595582
>Literally nothing in any Snyder movie is worth watching besides fight scenes
I'm pretty fucking sure all the things listed in the good or great section of pic related makes it worth seeing and most of them are not fight scene related.
>>83591236
I cant tell the difference between this and the movie that was released.
>>83599376
-- Clark stayed and helped people out of the building after the senate explosion.
-- More stuff from the Africa scenes so hopefully it will make further sense.
>>83599376
>>83599473
Oh and scenes of Clark investigating Batman in Gotham.
I didn't love it as much as MoS but I sure liked it enough to watch it like 4 times on cinema, I guess also because I'm the only DC-fan for some people as other friends only will watch Marvel movies.
The first time, the pacing problems were pretty obvious but it didn't bother me at all the second and third time.
>>83599326
>Wonder Woman is in the ''good and great'' list
How am I supposed to take this seriously?
>>83596607
>lmao
i guess this was a shitposting thread after all
>>83591308
>>83591265
christ
>>83599619
Because I am dead fucking serious even reviews that hated it at least liked her and many praised her as a highlight.
She. Was. NOT. FUCKING. BAD!
>>83599619
When everything else around you is a steaming piece of shit, the thing that looks slightly less than a steaming piece of shit is better
br rip when?
>>83591154
there needs to be a better name (like marveldrone) for dc fans who are this delusional. your movie sucked. get over it.
>>83599692
But not a single aspect of BVS was shit, some poor aspects sure, but not shit.
>>83599799
No, there were some aspects that were downright insulting with how shit they were.
>>83599799
>>83600060
aren't you tired having the same "discussion" over and over again?
So when's it coming out? I haven't seen it and am curious.
>>83599643
It's for the sake of a collection. Those cases will look really nice on my comic shelf.
>>83600200
28th of June for DIGITAL.
July 19th for the Blu-ray.
>>83600273
Oh cool, that means I can torrent it that night and watch it on my plane the next day.
Any word on the CW release yet?
>>83600382
August, probably.
>>83591376
>>83591451
Correct. It was a top tier high quality 10/10 masterpiece. Merely saying "good" is an understatement.
>>83591525
>Also the producer Charles Roven spoke about a 4hr cut but I don't think we'll get that.
Wait another three months.
The jar of piss scene was one of the most dynamic and engaging pieces of symbolism ever placed in a major motion picture
Kubrickian is the only word for it
>>83592659
>>83592963
The people who don't like this movie don't read comics and can't even pay attention to the movie. It was made for actual comics fans, especially those who could see the impact of having a Batman without his best friend Superman.
I'm actually hyped. I didn't watch the original movie because I was waiting for this version
>>83600060
List them.
>>83599783
"People with good taste"
>>83599109
>My girlfriend and I are going to watch it back to back with Man of Steel when it comes out
Sounds comfy as fuck.
>>83600514
Hi Snyder, hate to break this to you, but you have to understand what you read before you adapt it.
>>83600972
How would you know? You don't even read comics.
>>83601019
No you.
>>83595211
>RLM
opinion disregarded
>more scenes will make it better!
No, the toilette is already clogged, trowing more shit in it won't help.
Be brave and soft reboot it, get the characters and what makes them great right, make a proper ideology conflict that doesn't end because of a comic trivia, make a proper Superman burial scene, with the league transporting the coffin.
DC cinematic is so damaged that their hopes linger on freaking Suicide Squad doing well. Can you imagine this? Go back to 10 years ago and say "Batman and Superman movie didn't do it as well, but the suicide squad looks very promising fingers crossed!"
And there are people demanding more of this shit, are fans of this cinematic language and unrelated comic references. Fuck this is depressing.
>>83601116
you already got your cheesy 80's movies, no need for fancy effects and high budget for scenes with superman saving a cat. In fact, CW is gonna get his own superman and CW budget is enough for that.
>>83601116
Most of the scenes that were missing were connective tissue that the movie sorely lacked. Does that make the major scenes better? Probably not if you didn't like them already. But, from a story telling standpoint it helps and does improve on the shakey foundation.
>>83600628
He can't. Dawn of Justice had no flaws, and the "problems" people keep finding get wrecked every time there's a thread about this movie.
>>83600889
I can top that, my gf and I will probably play MonHun as we halfwatch it
>>83601774
>>83600889
>>83599109
Doing something alone doesn't count as doing it 'with your girlfriend' just because your hand is present during these events.
>>83591154
>critics will 180 on the film after seeing it
I'm expecting the Rotten Tomatoes score to be even lower.
>>83602696
I challenge anyone to play Monster Hunter while jacking off.
>>83603039
To be fair, no one said how good you'd have to play it.
>>83601199
>But, from a story telling standpoint it helps and does improve on the shakey foundation.
Hope so
Captcha: pic related
>>83599109
Prepare to be single.
>>83603090
This is a point. Still, it takes a special kind of person to jack it to video games and bad cape movies over, you know, porn.
>>83601747
It's not worth it because only drones who are going to keep making up reasons to justify those flaws are defending it.
Everyone knows the movie is garbage.
>>83603167
Don't worry. She has the same "shit" taste as me and actually enjoyed both movies.
>>83591236
every Hack Snyder movie trailer looks wesome as fuck but the final product will be decent t best
>>83603907
Why did you put "shit" in quotation marks?
>>83604011
Because I recognize that a lot of people think Snyder's movies are shit, and that people who like them have shit taste, but I don't personally subscribe to that viewpoint.
>>83604102
Have you considered purchasing a subscription?
tbqh famalam the warehouse rescue scene may be the best batman fight yet but it's also the most overrated. looked so much better in the trailers.
>>83604167
>caring whether or not some anon has the same opinion as you
Nah.
>>83604280
But anon, what if someonetells you to go to another website
Surely the human psyche cannot take such a slight!
>>83595582
I understand Superman's job is to protect people's lives, not save someone money by preventing property damage, but what the fuck were they thinking with this shot?
I ultimately enjoyed the movie, but despite fearing it was going to be too much of a reaction against MoS haters, instead 75% of the movie feels like they were almost intentionally handing more ammunition to them.
>>83604602
Well he took an explosion to the face at the gas station earlier and it staggered him. If he took it head on then Zod would kill him while he's stunned. Plus it was just a parking garage, not like there was anyone in danger.
>>83604602
>I understand Superman's job is to protect people's lives
yeah bruh, there was no one in the parking garage. supes didn't give a fuck about collateral damage, human or property, during that entire movie. in fact, he often made shit worse, like when he took the fight into smallville.
>>83604602
I think these were the actions of a Superman who still didn't quite know what he was capable of, and was forced to confront Zod without any real planning. I hate to use the "first day on the job" argument, but it makes sense.
Besides, it was just a parking garage. There are more wanton acts of destruction on his part in plenty of actual comics and cartoons, like when he punches bad guys into/through buildings that are most likely not empty at all. I find it's one of those things that Superman did frequently, but people only took issue with it once they saw it in live action, because it forces you to realize just how destructive it actually is.
>>83592075
Although I dont have any problem with BvS, I dont think Johns will have much say in the movies. Snyder ignored Nolan and every other exec who read the script and found out Superman kills in the end of MoS.
If Snyder can show his middle finger to the people who are funding his movie, why would he even consider listening to some guy who tweets about cereals.
>>83600628
Not him, but for me, memes(le piss jar, MUH MARTHA) aside.
-Lois was kind of a nonfactor throughout the whole movie. She has this "bullet" subplot that the movie keeps cutting away to that never amounts to jack shit. Only two things she really does is get kidnapped at the start and the end of the movie, not to mention the whole "goes back to get a spear she has no reason to think they need again" thing.
-Some of the fights, the Doomsday one in particular, there's so many CGI special effects and shaky camera stuff going on that it actually got really difficult to see what the fuck was actually going on, and me and the people I saw the movie with couldn't really follow the final fight very well because of it.
-Minor point, but I really disliked where the scene of Luthor getting access to the ship and Zod's corpse was in the movie, since it's just some one random no-name senator who can somehow give him unlimited, unsupervised access to both while asking for nothing in return. I feel this would have been better if moved to AFTER the Senate bombing, where he could pin the blame on Superman for it happening and using that to urge the government to authorize his "Superman countermeasures"
My biggest problems with the movie personally.
>>83593959
Is it known who she is yet?
>>83605221
an ugly barbara
>>83605144
>Snyder ignored Nolan and every other exec who read the script and found out Superman kills in the end of MoS
And thank god for that. Do you know how much of a neutered piece of shit the film would be if they threw in some deus-ex-machina ending that allowed Superman to win the day without having to make any sacrifices? This movie was about redefining the character from he ground up, that would have been such a waste.
>>83605526
>that would have been such a waste.
it was a waste anyway
>>83605526
>any good ending is a deus ex machina
you're literally why we can't have nice things. stop using terms you clearly don't understand.
The first time I watched the movie I thought it was shit. I own the death of superman and felt betrayed.
The second time I watched the movie just to give it another chance I realized it was shit. It is an abomination and a terrible starting point for the dcu
>>83591154
>predictions
>>critics will 180 on the film after seeing it
>>highest selling bluray of all time
>>will set the stage for justice league box office blow out
>>83605586
>implying killing the bad guy isn't a good ending
Zod is stronger and a better fighter than Superman was. He had sworn to kill every person on the planet unless Superman killed him. There is literally nobody else capable of holding, detaining, or even touching Zod besides Superman, and Zod is STRONGER than him and getting stronger by the minute.
Any ending that conveniently results in Superman defeating him without having to take responsibility of killing him is a deus ex machina. And also incredibly shallow and forgettable. As it stands, the entire explanation of just somehow conveniently warping the Black Zero back to the Phantom Zone was a little contrived, but I'll let it slide.
>>83605571
It kind of was, although I feel like the themes would have been better integrated if Superman had been allowed an actual sequel instead of the executive meddling that led to BvS. And that only happened because of all the backlash from bitchy fans. I'm afraid to see what's happening to Justice League.
>>83605711
>I own the death of superman and felt betrayed.
Is this supposed to mean something? Death of Superman was fucking shit.
>>83600229
you know there's medication to help deal with those symptoms right
>>83595644
>the city was evacuated! ignore the people directly around the combatants, Snyder said they weren't there!
>>83591154
I seriously doubt it will be a 180. more like 15 degrees at best
>>83605863
>Any ending that conveniently results in Superman defeating him without having to take responsibility of killing him is a deus ex machina
Not if it was set up properly beforehand. If Pa Kent had allowed Clark to see what he was capable of in secret, then Clark would have had a greater grasping of his true potential. Using that as an advantage, he may have been able to defeat Zod without killing him.
>>83591236
Looks amazing.
>>83605863
>killing the bad guy isn't a good ending
Here it is folks, the severe autism of the edgy MoS apologists. You know something's wrong when the death of the villain is the main reason someone considers an ending "good."
Oh man I can't wait.
>>83608733
I'd buy Ernest for 5 dollars.
Why do you people even argue with each other when no one will reach any conclusion? The people who hate it will still hate it, and likewise for the people who liked it. Arguing about BvS is really just a big waste of time. It's the same arguments each time as well. Every thread is the same. Hell, I bet some of you have even been in multiple threads about this before.
>>83608733
Someone is going to grab National Treasures and be very angry that they actually got something informative and educational over a Nic Cage flick.
>>83591154
>critics will 180 on the film after seeing it
>highest selling bluray of all time
>will set the stage for justice league box office blow out
>>83591236
Wow this really does look amazing. Sign me up on the hype train, OP. I'm pre-ordering it as we speak. Going to get two copies so I can give my friend one too that way we can watch it both at my place and his place.
>>83591376
This. The fact of that matter is that Marvel shills and "general audiences" are just too stupid to understand the philosophical depth and subtle nuance of Zack Snyder's brilliant Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. 20 years from now, it'll be looked back on as the apex of cape movies the likes of which nothing ever came close to before and never will come close to after. The sheer amount of craft and symbolism in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is akin to the highest forms of art. Its only flaw is being too deep for all the mindless children who have been rendered brain dead by the MCU's onslaught of quips and memes literally making a generation of movie viewers too stupid to understand and appreciate genuine artistry and intellectual masterwork.
Truly, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is the total realization and abject manifestation of capekino.
>>83591376
>writhes through a half dozen rationalizations in a single line of text
the tears of the dcfags are truly delicious
>>83609983
No, idiot. People hate on BvS because the characters have no discernable motivations. They're boring, especially and regretfully Superman. There was too much going on and no good character moments. It was a cluster fuck of a movie trying to get as much plot in as possible. Putting plot before character is a failure in western storytelling.
>>83609983
>"general audiences" are just too stupid
Well, that's fine, but you intelligentsia can't pay for a $400m budget on your own, can you?
It's okay to like a movie that's bad but you gotta own that, not try to spin it as a good movie.
Pic unrelated.
>>83605863
You do not understand the character of superman. It doesn't matter if him killing Zod made sense in the movie. It shouldn't have been written in that he needed to kill him. It's Superman, the name tells us he should be able to do the impossible and be Nietsche's moral Uber man by doing the right thing. That's the point of the character.
>>83609983
This pasta is funny because it assumes that it will take 20 years before people realize how good BvS is.
>>83610165
You need to watch the movie again. It was beautiful how each of the three important characters were motivated by their parents: Batman through his parents' death, Superman through his parents' hopes and dreams, and Lex through his father's abuse. It's a little subtle, so I can see how many might miss it. Just pay a bit more attention next time.
>>83610346
A little subtle? That's the most thin explanation for characters whose actions should feel heavy and full of meaning. It's bad writing. Luther wanting to kill batman and Superman because his dad beat him is beyond silly. Snyder makes it extra silly by tryingoto turn it in a God complex. Silly, dumb and unrelatable. Superman should be hopeful and kind. Batman should not kill. Luther should represent cynicism in contrast to Superman's idealism.
>>83610479
>Superman should be hopeful and kind. Batman should not kill.
Superman IS hopeful and kind. Luthor nearly took that away from him because he's a villain. If you were a fan of Batman and Superman, then having Batman remain unchanged despite having no friendship with Superman belittles the impact Superman has on him. Do you honestly believe that Batman could have gone through so many tragedies in the comics without breaking if it weren't for Superman's friendship?
I just don't understand how people can say that Bruce's motivation for becoming Batman is okay, but Luthor's motivation isn't. Can anyone explain that to me? Maybe there should have been a scene, perhaps at the gala when Lex is telling his speech, of him being brutally beaten and abused by his father in order to make that point clear.
>>83610346
>they all have daddy issues!!!
>cape kino at its finest!
this is the actual defense of dcfags.
I could care less about all this console war faggotry. I'm just excited to see 30 more minutes of that movie.
>>83612962
If you don't have empathy then you shouldn't be watching superhero movies.
>>83613534
if you don't have taste, you shouldn't watch movies at all. faggot.
>>83614002
Look buddy, I get it. You're retarded and follow the crowd to look good. You can't form your own opinions so you piggyback off of other people. Just stay being a loser forever, no one will notice or care in the slightest.
>>83591154THANK YOU BASED SYDER
>>83614146
>Everyone hates a movie
>They must all be following popular opinion
>It's literally impossible for people to think a movie is bad because it's bad
>>83614146
Look buddy, I get it. You're retarded and follow the contrarians to look good. You can't form your own opinions so you piggyback off of other people. Just stay being a loser forever, no one will notice or care in the slightest.
>>83614206
It's literally impossible for people to think THIS movie is bad because it's not. It's literally all just memes, tricks, and illusions. There are no legitimate reasons to attack this movie. That's different from not liking it; if you don't like serious or superhero movies then that's just you, but you can't say that it makes the movie bad.
>>83614316
>It's literally impossible for people to think THIS movie is bad because it's not.
>27%
>>83614146
>>83614194
These two posts being adjacent is funnier to me than it has any right to be.
>>83614332
>"Critics"
>TSFH None shall Live
Why. It was good music on its own, why ruin it with his shit?
>>83614353
>le "Disney spends millions of dollars a week on critic bribes" meme
>>83614332
Read the rest of the post and the score will make sense.
>>83595644
There's three things really sad about that fight scene animation.
1. They are moving at normal human speed. By that,I mean,it looks like just two guys throwing regular punches.Watch the punches thrown in conjunction to the background car falling and the people running.The background characters should either be going slower ,more punches should have been thrown in the allotted time frame,or an even bigger impact should have been shown for the punches to show these two SUPER BEINGS FROM A DIFFERENT PLANET HAVING SUPER POWERS.
2.)And why oh why, does he not open his mouth after getting throat chopped?Where you afraid of copying Matrix? NO! That's what actually happens when you get your shit chopped,your mouth involuntarily opens due to reflex.Don't believe me?Try it. Karate chop yourself or someone else in the throat and see if their mouth opens. His hair doesn't even move either! Is he moussin' it?
3.: WOOOO! Did he use, what I think he used? Chinese cartoons sonic boom hits? YOU DIDN'T EVEN USE THEM RIGHT! Those are, when used correctly, weight being given to otherwise listless punches in animation. How you may ask? Well, for starters, when people are shown wearing loose clothing, the fabric goes into where the punch is landed and spreads out from behind. His cape can at the very least move back slightly from that punch to his gut. But Superman doesn't wear loose clothing here. So, when tight clothing is worn, it tends to tear. Granted, it's armor, of sorts, that doesn't excuse it either from being able to show weight behind punches. Just look at the very end sequence of MOS after he snaps Zod's neck. He's not even DIRTY! NOT A SCRATCH ON HIM! HIS HAIR IS LITERALLY STILL PERFECT! HE'S NOT EVEN SWEATING! COME ON! If you showed someone that scene, without context, they would call you a liar if you told them superman just fought someone. Fuck this movie, fuck Zack Synder, and fuck you piece of shit eating mongoloids who defend this garbage.
Snyder doesn't understand how to use bathos correctly and the movie fails to resonate emotionally because of it.
I have a confession /co/.
This movie is perfect. It has no flaws whatsoever. Its layers of meaning fold into each other like a holographic hexaflexagon. I only made up lies that it had flaws because Disney paid me to sell my soul with mkultra pop stars and trucks of money. I'm so, so, sorry.
Please buy Warner Brothers products.
When does this come out? I have yet to even see the theatrical cut. You've spooked me off from seeing two of my faves come together, /co/.
>>83614572
I hated the movie and I didn't paid. Where's my fucking paycheck, Disney?
>>83614405
1: They aren't fighting at super-speed, just using strength. Clark isn't fully trained with his powers and Zod just got them.
2: Because he's Superman. He isn't hurt at all; he doesn't even bleed, hence the "do you bleed" comment by Batman. He barely even grunted in that scene, in fact, he was more likely to grunt when DELIVERING the blows rather than taking them.
3: See above. Also the way the effects were used was fine. It showed how powerful their blows were.
>>83591236
Just because a trailer is good doesn't mean that it will be good. Case and point, BvS.
>>83615152
They were fighting at superspeed, hence the sonic booms, the buildings being destroyed instantaneously, and GOING INTO SPACE IN MERE MOMENTS!
2. Wow. And he's Zod, what's your point? They are two equal beings. A cut, a bruise, a torn sleeve, a bloody noise, hell, a swollen lip, any of these would have suffice to some that they were in fact "fighting to the death". None of that. And how would Batman even KNOW if Superman had bled during the fight? He only saw him on ground level.
3. No, they were not.
>>83615695
don't bother arguing with these morons. if they had reasoning abilities, they wouldn't defend bvs.
>>83615695
Travel speed isn't the same as fight speed. Destroying a building instantaneously is a result of power, not speed. Zod wasn't very hurt either. And no, they aren't equal beings because Clark has absorbed yellow sunlight radiation for a longer time than Zod, hence his ability to break Zod's neck despite being unable to deal any damage to him. They have tons of durability, far more than the amount of strength their attacks can deal. Just because you're not used to it doesn't mean it's bad. Batman asked the question to bring home the point that no one knows the extent to Superman's durability, but even despite this fact he will use the kryptonite to bring him down to human level. Finally, the special effects did their job so they ARE good. Do you nitpick as much as this for other movies?
>>83616033
Yes, travel speed = fight speed, because that's how fast you can move. No, it was speed. What you're arguing is pushing someone very slowly through a wall. At the very least, it's a combination of both. Look at the Africa scene. Are you going to argue that superman just forcefully pushed him through the walls? Then how did he prevent the bullet from going through Lois Lane's skull? I'll give you a hint. It rhymes with "duper deed". Right, let's go back to that first thing you said about Zod. If he wasn't able to absorb the sunlight as long as Superman, as you so claim, then how was he able to fight, at all, ever, on equal footing with him in the first place? It would suffice to say that Zod would and should have been put down much faster than he was or not give superman that much of a struggle. So he knew the kryptonite would work... because? He did he know it wouldn't make him stronger? Yeah, keep saying that to yourself. I'm sure it'll turn out true in the end. Only the movies that I know should have been better.
>>83616839
>Yes, travel speed = fight speed
You're actually retarded. If I can run at 5000 miles per hour, it doesn't mean I can punch at 5000 miles per hour. Try thinking for just a second, and you'll understand. Of course it might be too difficult for you, and that's why you criticize these movies.
>he wasn't able to absorb the sunlight as long as Superman, as you so claim, then how was he able to fight, at all, ever, on equal footing with him in the first place?
Superior fighting ability. He was born and trained to be a military man, so he was able to overcome the slight advantage Clark had for a limited period of time.
>So he knew the kryptonite would work... because?
Detective work. Why would he be searching for it if he didn't know its capabilities? He got the information for what kryptonite is able to do BEFORE going after it.
Look, if you lie then you will certainly lose. The only way to win is to seek truth. Sure, it may be easier to lie, but look deep inside yourself. Is this the sort of victory you want? Winning against the uninformed? Eventually you'll face someone who is informed, who you cannot fool. Then what? Choose life, son.
>>83591154
hey I have to ask something could doomsday always do that explosion thing in the comics or is that just something in the movie?
>>83617404
Then you can kick at 5000 miles per hour. Either way, it will hurt.
Okay, so that "slight advantage" forced Superman to snap his neck, becoming mad of murder, Murderman? Then if his advantage was so slight, why didn't he bolt Zod into the sun? Drown him in the ocean? Kick him?
LOL "DETECTIVE WORK"? Oh my goodness child, thank you, I haven't laughed like that since I was a little girl. So let me get this straight. I'm somehow supposed to believe Murderman 2: Gotham Boogaloo was somehow able to find out that kryptonite was able to hurt Murderman 1, The Original Murderman, but not find out that he's been an alien raised by human parents, even though, EVEN THOUGH, an investigate journalist AND THE EXACT SAME PERSON HE STOLE SAID KRYPTONITE FROM was able to do so by talking to three people? And that's another thing, why was he interested in the Kryptonite in the first place? How did he even find out that Lexer was bringing it into the city? He knew it was something, but he didn't know what specifically it was from. He found out AFTER he stole it. Come on man. Don't give me that. Don't give me that.
>>83617691
Damn, he looks like a rejected turtle concept.
>>83600229
You poor, goddamn fool.
>>83618133
What happened to the good old days of reversible slipcovers?
>>83618082
>Then if his advantage was so slight, why didn't he bolt Zod into the sun?
Are you even listening to yourself? You've gone off the deep end. "Why doesn't Superman push the guy powered by the sun INTO the source of his power?" Come on. Your rage has blinded you. Zod's superior fighting ability allows him to overpower a slightly stronger opponent. Have you never seen that before in your life? Go outside once in a while.
>detective work
You were too stupid to understand the movie. That's why you didn't like it. I gave you the chance to choose the path of truth, but you threw it away. He knew, from the rumors about the White Portuguese, that there was a mineral that could hurt Superman extracted from the Indian Ocean. Could you at least watch the movie before criticizing it?
>How did he even find out that Lexer was bringing it into the city? He knew it was something, but he didn't know what specifically it was from.
The Russian's phone led him to Luthor. Luthor led him to find out that the White Portuguese was a ship. He tracked where the ship was going and tried to take the cargo. He knew it was a mineral that could hurt Superman.
Regarding Lois:
Lois had advantages over Batman in Man of Steel. The Superman persona did not exist yet: he had to use pseudonyms. The biggest advantage, by far, is that she interacted with him when they found the Kryptonian spaceship. She was able to see his face up close, and thus able to seek out his features. Finally, she knew many people who had worked with him and was able to back-track through them and the “urban legends.” Using these clues, she was able to trace him back to Clark Kent. Batman, on the other hand, had various disadvantages. The Superman identity was already well-established, there was no reason for him to believe that Superman had a secret identity, and any attempt to track him by satellite would be foiled, as the military had already tried that in Man of Steel.
I'm done with your games. Stay down.
>>83618943
I see we've hit the bargaining stage
Will it fix the dumb plot and stupid lines while also making it less pretentious?
There was precisely one good, emotionally charged scene in this entire movie. It was when Superman was on the floor and slowly built the strength to block Batman's kick. The way it merged with the brief return of the old Man of Steel theme and Cavill's expressions really sold the moment.
>>83618082
>why didn't he bolt the Kryptonian he wants to stop towards the yellow sun
Oh man you are quite the tactician anon
>>83615152
The only thing that shows their hitting each other hard is the screen wobbling and the anime sonic boom effects.
Other than that, neither Superman, Zod, or the environment around them seems to be reacting at all like they were hitting each other with super strength.
See JLU's Superman/Captain Marvel fight, where there's shattering windows and other collateral damage around them just from how hard their hitting each other.
