sjws and libfags will eventually leave comic books alone and everything will go back to notmal... r-right?
>>83579090
Well...we were thinking about it.
But then you used 'sjw', 'libfag', and 'normal' in the same sentence.
So no. Deal's off.
>>83579090
No
They took over my games
They took over my movies
They took over my comics
There isn't anything else left they haven't tainted with their insufferable pseudo oppression
>>83579090
They were always there.
But Marvel ALWAYS has the aproach of pissing off their clients o gets sales.
They already slowly started it, Bendis and the Captain America writter shit tem on them to make them shill their works.
>>83579090
Seems Captain Hydra went a long way to turning new readers into the bitter abused housewife the rest of us are
>>83579090
By comic books do you mean super hero fiction?
>>83579090
You're a fag OP. You shouldn't waste your time complaining that people of different political persuasions put their beliefs into the art they produce.
>>83579180
yourporn
>>83579180
>my games
>my movies
>my comics
Speaking of pseudo oppression...
>>83579180
>They took over my games
>They took over my movies
>They took over my comics
Have you tried different games/movies/comics?
>>83579090
There is no "normal", social mores and values are always in flux, and superhero comics have always embodied the current social mores of their time.
They took our jerbs
>>83579400
It's basically the companies as a whole who allow the shit to happen
All the censoring with Nintendo and terrible localizing teams
All the shit marvel has been pushing
Even stuff like wonder woman and green arrow with dc
All these movies with female white leads with black males
Help
>>83579090
>go back to notmal
Trends and fads come and go, but the vast majority of comics will always lean liberal. Your imaginary vision of a conservative or politically neutral comics industry is a fantasy that never existed.
>>83579180
>I feel like the only logical path the world should take is to cater to me exclusively. its pandering if its to anyone else
>>83579494
>green arrow with dc
So you're complaining about directions DC went in during the 70s?
>>83579518
But it's ok if I'm a woman
>>83579494
>All these movies with female white leads with black males
What good movie has those? I'm asking for a friend.
>>83579494
One again, have you tired different games/movies/comics? There's so much good stuff in all 3 mediums, you're most likely never gonna run out of media to consume.
And for the record, Green Arrow has always been "SJW" and "libfag" as fuck.
>>83579090
Has there ever really been a normal?
I've been a fan since 97 and it's always been "fucking terrible with a few decent runs here and there"
I jumped off the ride once the Avengers came out and I realized that it was a lot easier to follow the characters with non-retarded dialogue and them not being mouthpieces for the writers to yell at each other with
>>83579552
>good
None
They are automatically ruined
tfw /pol/ was right
>>83579090
>Leave
They were here from the star dumbass
Comicbooks have always leaned liberal, bordering on and (sometimes actually becoming) propaganda in the golden age.
Or did wee forget the fact the industry began with a bunch of jews shilling wellfare, ww2 intervention, the new, deal labor rights, and feminism ?
Or the Silver Age marvel wanking off teen culture and having an entire book that was thinly veiled civil rights literature?
Or the super science kung fu action African king that soloed the ff and avengers?
or literally everything to do with Green Arrow and Green Lantern when oneil wrote them
Or when the xmen came back as the Burger king kids club and sold gangbusters
Or the superheroes that were literally fucking space hippies
or when the entire industry was taken over by druggies punk rockers and counter culture occultists from Britain?
Are you serioulsy reatraded
>>83579177
Agreed, using fag in 2016?
Op should go back to /pol/
>>83579090
Nope. What is normal has now changed. It will never go ba k to what you think it should be. And you will never be ok with that.
Are you sad enough to kill yourself?
>>83579597
>>83579518
Triggered
>>83579650
What's left is now right
What's right is wrong
#Thecurrentyear2016
>>83579090
Comics have been liberal since 1938. I'm sorry anon, but you're outnumbered and you gotta live with that.
>>83579518
Actually they should pander to the people who actual buy the product instead of people who only whine about the product because they feel "offended" and will never buy it.
True gender equality means ensuring that there are no male dominated spaces in any form of entertainment. It's better that you just get over your fucking bigoted man-baby ways now instead of going kicking and screaming into obsolescence and making complete fools of yourselves.
>>83579090
>bitching about liberals in comics when they have always dominated the medium
Anons like you really need to fuck off already
No, we have to move to a contrarian, obscure media scene.
>pirate radio
>origami
>phreaking
>train fandom
>>83579701
They never bought it to begin with
They just heard through the grape vine then went to Tumblr or twitter
>>83579785
Sorry, should have clarified. I meant neoliberals who only care about what your gender and sexual orientation is.
>>83579796
That's what I was saying.
>>83579836
I know
Those people piss me off
>libfag and sjw boogeymen
>"If only things will go back to the way they once were!"
The best you can hope for is a bunch of redpills getting together and making their own media, and when they do it tends to be schlock like Hatred.
>>83579701
Since cape comics in general have always skewed liberal, it follows that the people who buy them do too, or at least don't mind it. Like someone above said, comics have never been super conservative, or apolitical.
It would be amusing just how much /co/ tends to fulfill the stereotypes of pathetic comic book nerds if it wasn't so sad.
>>83579955
see
>>83579807
I have no problem with classical liberalism. Just the kind that's been rearing it's ugly head for past decade.
>>83579494
>All the censoring with Nintendo and terrible localizing teams
Wow how fucking young are you.
>>83580049
Recently it's gotten a lot worse.
Fuck Treehouse.
>>83579961
The saddest part is those nonreaders who mock us tend to be just as pathetic when the comics do something to their MCU favorites. It's like the entire cape genre is a plague.
Eh, the extreme reactions might die down a bit but as people have said comics have always been a liberal medium. And maybe at some point the asshats in the comic fandom will grow a pair and realise that not everything is pandering and/or offensive.
Sorry OP. Frank Miller will be dead soon and his influence over the medium will follow suit.
And then there will be nowhere to hide.
>>83580095
>It's like the entire cape genre is a plague.
You're closer to the truth than you could ever imagine.
>>83579884
But hatred wasn't made by redpillers. It was made by a diverse studio with different religions and nationalities. There's no political message beyond being fun.
>>83579090
The more you advertise your butthurt, the more people will rub salt in it. Shut up.
>>83580215
stop reading big 2 ya dumb gook
>>83579494
>Even stuff like wonder woman and green arrow with dc
Anon, I've got news for you.
>>83580215
We're just being Hollier than thou fags. Go check out a DOA and see the true /co/
>>83580215
>these three titles are triggering me
>better make multiple threads about them
>>83580215
>abloo bloo bloo nobody sucks my dick
>>83580250
>No political message beyond fun
>Developers directly stated in interview with polygon
>"We wanted to create something contrary to prevailing standards of forcing games to be more polite or nice than they really are or even should be."
>http://www.polygon.com/2014/10/17/6994921/hatred-the-polygon-interview
A simple google search shows that they had a clear agenda. They thought that they were making a grand political statement about not having to conform to standards, in reality they were being about as unthinkingly edgy as you could get.
Hatred might have been about a lot of things, and it might have expressed those ideas poorly, but it was never about "good honest fun".
>>83580215
/co/ hates those books and they are pretty bad to be honest.
But on the other end of the spectrum you have people getting triggered over Kamala which has been pretty good.
>>83580336
>Implying that /co/ is anything but horny teenage boys
>>83580336
Interesting. Care to elaborate? You mean to tell me posts like the ones in this thread are non existant despite the authour being on their side politically?
why do you guys never shut up about this
>>83580455
No I mean to say they lie to troll and get a reaction from people like you.
>>83579609
There is a big difference between classical liberalism, and the new breed of progressive authoritarianism that is becoming the new left.
>>83579090
Unfortunately, there was no republican version of this.
>>83580455
>on their side
Willis isn't a progessive, he's just another white man agnsting about his middle class upbringing.
>>83579992
Modern liberalism is literally the same shit.
Its built on ensuring the needs of lower tier groups (poor,labor class, enthic minorities, women, sexual minorities, the disabled etc) via government intervention because the beliefs is a system in a vacuum will not ensure such protections
>>83580215
They literally didnt name a single comic, they just polposted
>>83579702
>ensuring that there are no male dominated spaces in any form of entertainment
It's like there is no bait and it's just a piece of carboard that says "hook", like some kind of abstract hell.
>>83580518
>Modern liberalism is literally the same shit.
I don't think privilege checking and mansplaining was part of liberalism before 2005.
The only way to defeat idiots like Kate Leth or Anita Sarkeesian is to simply not give them oxygen. Do not pay any attention to them, do not go on angry tirades about them, don't take time out of your day to send them insults or vaguely threatening messages on Twitter or by email. Every single time something like this happens people say that they can't just ignore the problem or it won't go away, but every time the problem isn't ignored IT GETS WORSE.
Marvel has come right out and said repeatedly, consistently, and openly that their business strategy is based entirely around making people mad enough to never stop talking about whatever bullshit they're putting onto shelves, because that is what gets people buying their shit, regardless of its quality. And yet people STILL buy into it and do exactly what people like Brevoort expect and want them to do. You may as well just be filling envelope after envelope with fat stacks of cash and sending them straight to Marvel, because their clickbait scheme of storytelling wouldn't work without people whining as loudly as possible.
tl;dr, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM YOU'RE ANGRY ABOUT
>>83580577
I don't think you really know what liberalism actually is anon.
>>83579702
Is this satire? It is right it's a joke about how there are female dominated and male dominated spaces, and everything is all right as long as newcomers are welcomed... right.
This is a joke right, please.
>>83580420
Yeah. People lumping Ms Marvel with the recent Thor and Hellcat is unfair as well. I think it's not Kamala they hate, and it's more of the current political climate where governments are forcing citizens to accept muslims in their societies peacefully and no one should say anything about them or else, while fighting terrorists who are also muslims. The American public still have not accepted them but accomodate them out of fear from both terrorists and the government.
>>83580629
Male dominated spaces are innately unwelcoming to women, by definition. The only way to detoxify them is to force the worst offenders out and bringing more women in.
>>83579494
>All these movies with female white leads with black males
how is that inherently leftist or new?
>>83580618
I disagree, just ignoring it will allow it to grow. Others will believe the bullshit and it will keep spreading. Because there will always be idiots.
We need to drag the bullshit out into the light and show just how much bullshit it is.
>>83580656
>what is the first amendment
>>83580680
Damn, this is Poe's law if I've ever seen it.
>>83580685
>implying 4chan has enough power to "expose" political movements
>>83580618
I doubt Marvel checks 4chan, as long as you don't take it to Twitter or Facebook, and you don't support the business practices you don't like its better to vent her than where it could get people interested.
>>83579577
Just like the far left getting triggered because a character isn't a specific race and ignoring everything else
>>83580685
>I disagree, just ignoring it will allow it to grow.
And by not ignoring them, you've given them the spotlight and a political platform to continue spreading their bullshit, but with a wider audience. Congratulations.
>>83580622
I bet he's not a True Scotsman either.
Face it Anon, Trigglypuff has more in common with the average modern liberal than Paine or Jefferson.
>>83580720
If these are real Feminists they always feel so rude, and judgemental. I wouldn't want to be friends with someone like this at all. Maybe if these people were fun there would be less backlash over them taking over entertainment.
>>83580768
It's a Catch 22 isn't it? What you say is true, but ignoring it allowed them to take over Universities.
>>83580751
>just like the far-right to get triggered because a character is a specific race
>>83580802
It's why people (who adhere to those principles still) should use the term Classic Liberal.
>>83580622
Politics weren't polarized in 2002 as much as it was now
Now it's either left wing feminist nu male white knight or right winged race warrior redneck
You still could have been against Islamic Extremism and feminism while still being anti republican in 2002
>>83580577
It was. There was always that dark cloudy table in the way back at the DNC heckling the party leaders but never having enough to make an impact until recently.
>>83580802
There you go again anon, namecalling instead of actually proving your argument.
>>83580829
Hey, you discovered the Horseshoe theory in effect! The both espouse the same racist shit, but on different ends of the spectrum, like segregation.
>>83580829
>just like ideologues to spew left-right terminology at eachother
Fucking retards, if you are actually a good and moral individual you would look at your opponents ideas and take all the good aspects. Tribalism isn't how you run a nation or a society. The political spectrum is a cancer upon the mind.
>>83580869
>again
Swing and a miss there Anon, that was my first post in the thread. But seriously, how is accusing you of the No True Scotsman fallacy namecalling? Trigglypuff is a liberal, Thomas Paine is a liberal. But in the modern era the identity politics of Trigglypuff are standard liberal fare while Paine's would get you labelled a Conservative.
>>83580910
>>83580878
>anon pls no bully the far right
>>83580878
It's almost like extremists are crazy, and don't know how to run a fair and just society, kek.
These people would be funny if they weren't so cancerous.
>>83580878
>Right Wing: Segregation
>Left Wing: PoC "Safe Spaces"
>>83579090
I thought about this, sorta, on the other day and I came to a conclusion, that what we're having right now is the painful ''transition phase''.
Women and minorities have very vocally kicked the door in, and are forcefully gaining more power.
BUT!
Once they have ''infiltrated'' the industry, and have gained their place, WE can finally start working together.
Once we, as a society have accepted the diversity, people can stop acting like victims and stop the blame game, and do stuff together in a harmony.
Right now, the problem seems to be the lack of diversity and equality, but once we have diversified the industry, it's all going to blow over. No more (at least not as many) gender wars and race wars, when there's no need for any of that anymore.
Just hang in there, brothers. This is just a phase, and something better will hopefully come out of it.
I'm personally looking forward to the equal peace times, when we can stop acting like irrational clowns to each other.
>>83580961
>Once we, as a society have accepted the diversity, people can stop acting like victims and stop the blame game, and do stuff together in a harmony.
>can stop acting the victims
Oh, poor, sweet, innocent Anon.
I'm so sorry, but... it doesn't stop.
>>83580992
No, it's totally different, it's for their own good. Those dangerous whitey's might hurt someone's feelings, there might even be a real life racist in the real world. Gotta stay in the back of the bus so no one discriminates against you.
>>83580586
I thought is was funny. This doesn't belong in this thread
>>83581006
That isn't really what happened with Fascism though. Humans aren't really very good at co-operating with the "enemy"
You little men need to stop your mansplaining.
>>83581006
I don't know about that. As long as the profiteers of those groups see money in being victims, this won't stop anytime soon. So I predict that this will only happen once the aliens or the robot uprising show up.
>>83580852
>politics weren't as polarizing in 2002
You have to be 18 or older to post here, Anon.
>>83581099
And manspreading.
And cut that Patriarchy shit out, it's 2016 for fuck's sake. Act like it for once.
>>83581134
I honestly thought that "manspreading" was completely satirical, but no, apparently it's actually a thing that modern feminists get worked up about. At this point I'm convinced they would make it illegal to have balls if they could.
>>83581134
Please don't I'm Canadian "current year" is my trigger. I have self-diagnosed PTSD, please respect my pronouns.
>>83579090
>sjws and libfags will eventually leave comic books alone and everything will go back to notmal
It will go back to normal.
In that all the things you are talking about will become the new normal, and in the future, people will be decrying the next social issue intruding into their multicultural, multi-sexuality comics.
>>83581006
but anonmost people don't careI mean we have a black guy directing the flash
>>83581078
Most far right/left groups aren't really trying to invade the whole world and wipe out whole groups of people in the most brutal ways possible...
>>83581177:^)
>>83581177
Didn't someone get arrested for it. It's a real law somewhere (Britain?) I think.
>"go write your own comics!"
>they do and people enjoy them, big 2 decides to get in on the action
>"waaahh no only I know what is good"
Go write your own comics then if you're so goddam smart
Face it, modern feminists made comics better.
>>83581257
>Mansplaining is the Truth.
>>83579090
You're a faggot. Kindly fuck off. Thanks.
>>83581254
This is true, but people should be free to criticise. Rights go both ways. I guess it is good that they're finally using the free market.
>>83581284
"Truth" and "Evidence" are just a couple ways that the patriarchy tries to silence strong women everywhere.
It'll be eradicated soon enough.
I know Gamergoobers and /Pol/ are already in the thread but I have to say THIS:
Honestly her comics are pretty great and they are fun, and isn't that what we want with comic books?
To have fun?
Here are more fun comics by her
comicsalliance.com/author/kateleth/
Read them and remember she is called the female Frank Miller for a reason
>>83581325
Science is the work of the patriarchy, it's designed to make women feel inferior.
>>83581006
You don't get it do you? The industry dosen't WANT to be diversified. it's perfectly happy with the types of people who have been supporting it for decades and dosen't need the money or time of a bunch of pretentious fat dyed hair psuedo-intellectuals.
>>83581257
>Someone actually allowed this to be printed
>>83580079
Worse how?
>>83581224
I know, and I don't care either, and I don't know happens in those big companies. but apparently there is a problem that needs fixing and we're in the process of fixing that problem.
I'm just taking people's word for that there's a problem, honestly, because I don't live in their world or in their circles.
But I hope, that people of all kinds could finally come together, and produce quality content together.
>>83581299
Check your fucking cis privilege. F***** isn't now or has ever been an acceptable term for queer individuals.
>>83581240
I thought that was a real argument until I got to the part where she (or he) said "brought to the public squares of their cities nude", and not I am absolutely sure it is a troll article/satire.
>>83581201
So basically the best thing to hope is for them to no longer be 'with it' and 'it' will change and piss them off like it did the older generation?
>>83579180
Just like RWBY.Coincidence?
>>83581410
Poe's law, Anon.
>>83581410
*now I am sure
>>83581392
You men faggot? You're a fucking fag for that shit joke, faggot.
>>83581387
>apparently there is a problem that needs fixing
Is it? Are the quality of stories broadly focusing on mythologies, cosmic adventures, mystic dimensions, and scientific marvels really being dragged down because they don't have enough black people writing them?
>>83581387
Most people who want to already are. The far left and far right (less so as they have less influence), are the only people in the way. I mean if every far leftist suddenly calmed down magically that would be great, but I doubt it Anon.
>>83581430
>'it' will change and piss them off like it did the older generation?
The way the world works, anon.
>>83579180
>There isn't anything else left they haven't tainted with their insufferable pseudo oppression
Holy shit, just fucking kill yourself.
>>83581443
What was joking about it? Stop being such a shitlord and then I'll reply to you seriously.
>>83581257
>punching a man who can't fight back
+1 for feminism
>>83580079
No it hasn't.
It's funny how people don't realize that the arts have always and will always be filled with these so called "SJWs" and "liberals."
Siegel, Shuster, Kirby, and Simon would have been perceived as radicals in their day but there wasn't an internet around for people to bitch and moan and pre-1945 urban culture was more closely associated with European radical politics.
In the 50s middle America finally had enough of the Jewish Urban liberal aspects of comics and tried to fight it with the comics code. We just found new ways to be subversive.
People have been talking about diversity and feminism in comics for decades now. Underground comix, Wimmens Comix, 70s and 80s writers introducing a lot of diverse characters in books like X-Men, Teen Titans, and the Outsiders. Marvel's drugy occult saturated books from the 70s. If you think it's new it's because you never payed attention to subtext. Now the discussion is front and center.
Sure, there will always be a minority of conservative comic art, and some may even be good. I like Steve Ditko and Harold Gray. But comics always have been and likely will remain a bastion of liberal weirdos.
>>83581454
These people think that if it's possible legally for DC to become all Black, that's not the reality until every person working there is Black. They don't want legal rights they want perfectly balanced quotas to insert every possible group, it's probably the most retarded way to run a society.
"sorry we already have 20% White writers you can't work here." "Sorry we already have the 2% Gay Blacks needed you gotta find another place to be an artist" sounds like a really just and wonderful society to live in.
>>83581522
Seriously. You right-wing fucks should just stay away from anything creative. You're shit at it, and we'll always win.
>>83581522
FUCKING THANK YOU
>>83581522
But the difference is these liberal weirdos didn't grow up liking or admiring comics in any way. They are doing this for attention
>/v/ goes on an on about how sjws are destroying video games
>mfw i dont notice anything and keep enjoying video games like I always have
>>83581569
>win
Is life a game now? Look the left won, we did it guys we "won" life, we won society. Are you a fucking child? Grow up no one has won anything, the world is still shit, and it will probably forever be shit.
>>83581454
I don't know how it'll affect the stories, possibly we could get interesting new takes on stuff, but what I REALLY want, is to stop the unnecessary, constant controversy and outrage surrounding every comic, just because the creative team lacks of something.
I just want to read, and not go to war with people, and if diversifying the people behind the comics is the answer, then I'll take it.
>>83581671
Go masturbate to Drumpf like the fucking racist piece of shit you are.
Literally kill yourself. No one will miss you. The world will be better off without you and your shit.
>>83581568
"Sorry we can't have more than one black character in this, or else it'll be 'too black' so you get the one and that's it."
Some people already live in that world, anon.
Plus, have you seen any group shots of Big Two writers lately? Are those overrun with black people and women?
Rebecca Sugar made a great cartoon about lesbian aliens and cross-dressing. I'm glad that my children watch this every day to become enlightened.
>>83581240
There are fewer feminists than men
Wouldn't it be simpler to kill all the feminists
I have a lot of female friends who would love to help
>>83581752
Of course you resort to violence right off the bat when confronted with something that makes you feel just a LITTLE BIT uncomfortable.
People like you SHOULD have their balls removed. It would do the world a favor.
>>83579224
>>83579616
>>83579702
>>83580395
>>83580680
>>83581006
>>83581043
>>83581099
>>83581134
>>83581181
>>83581257
>>83581325
>>83581330
Oh no /co/mrades. We are at that point.
I can't tell if these are baits or not.
>>83581783
Just like the anti trump supporters. I agree.
>>83581678
But their was no outrage until people started to force diversification.
Most men in the united states, black and white, are not interested in comic books. Most of the people who are are white males due to the virtually all white authors who founded and made popular science in the 50's. There are black people who genuinely enjoy them as well, but they don't need quotas to get into an industry they love.
Furthermore, dilluting a medium unnaturally with outside factors will only stretch the medium thin and hamper the stories it can tell
>>83581699
Who said I supported the right? When was I racist? You literally need to make up the fact that I'm a racist to make yourself feel better.
>Drumpf
And you're a kind loving liberal? I don't want to assume your political views, anyone could hate Trump I guess, but maybe try to be a bit less of a toxic asshole. Try to empathise with your fellow human beings.
>>83581814
No, fuck you. Those people are fighting to keep a fascist demagogue out of any sort of power. They're heroes.
You're the problem with the world these days.
>>83581330
>>83581812
>I can't tell if these are baits or not.
That's because you're retarded.
>>83581848
But Trump is a liberal
Every day until you like it.
>>83581844
I hesitate to refer to you as "human" since it's obvious you're walking garbage.
>>83581743
How does mandating more of it make it any better though? Why ask for it on the basis of we "need" more Black people on comics. Why not use all of your energy to protest people who say "too black" instead of changing the players but leaving the game the same.
>>83581815
>dilluting a medium unnaturally with outside factors will only stretch the medium thin and hamper the stories it can tell
This already happened to capeshit ages ago. The characters are decades old, the majority of it is garbage because it's just not possible to get that much mileage out of one character. The sole reason why they still exist is because of money. Creative expression has nothing to do with characters whose best stories are behind them.
>>83581569
>"we'll always win"
>thinks like a child
>>83581699
>gets in a fit of rage when someone points it out
>just like a child too
Well, it checks out.
>>83581454
The race of the person writing matters significantly less than the cultural background of the person writing. It doesn't really matter what color the writer's skin is if they're all coming from the same general geographic region (or in some cases all from the same city, like San Francisco).
>>83581925
Is that the only insult you have? Try to use that little bit of matter in your head that could maybe be referred to as a "brain" a little more. I'm sure you can do it.
>>83581941
I agree
I also think that those with a cultural background that does not involve some love for comic books should not be writing for them
>>83581699
>Deadnaming
Wow, ugh, I cannot even.
>>83581569
>right wing fucks
>shit at being creative
>Eliot, Yeats, Pound, Heinlein, etc.
>shit at being creative
nice meme libcuck
>>83581848
>Pepper spraying Hispanic children.
>Heroes.
>>83581991
I would never intentionally deadname a trans* individual, Anon.
It's to show the clear racist bigotry Drumpf shows, since he changed his last name to seem more "American"
>>83581815
I've always thought, that they didn't start the problem, they just brought it to light and now, not just the comic book industry, but other media too, is on fire.
It all seems chaotic, and it is, but I guess this has to happen so we can change the media and people's ways of thinking.
>>83581963
>Is that the only insult you have?
I guess you were expecting something like >>83581699 huh?
>I'm sure you can do it
Sorry but I would have to get at least angry to post something like that, and this triviality isn't enough for that.
It seems easy for you and your "brain" though; you literally got THAT aggressive because one post disagreed with you.
I don't think I want to fall that low, man.
>>83582041
He didn't choose the name he was born with anon, his ancestor was a transnamer, please be more respectful of their choices you're really triggering me right now.
>>83582021
Fabricated story by the right to smear them. It never happened.
>>83582010
>Bunch of white, cis men
Yeah, nah. Fuck off.
>trying to get tumblr points
>unintentionally make everything terrible
Why do people do this?
>>83582086
I'm sorry, but I really don't think he deserves the same type of respect.
I'll try to respect your wishes better from now on.
>>83582100
>Fabricated story by the right to smear them. It never happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGerpHhQmg0
>>83581874
>I hesitate to refer to you as "human" since it's obvious you're walking garbage.
Not him, but at this point I don't know anymore if you're really this blind or just parodying the kind of people that get worked up like this.
Jesus.
>>83582072
There is no "problem". There is only the incessant whining of hipsters who want something to be angry about.
>>83582163
It's a scary world we live in, Anon.
>>83582163I've been bullshitting this whole time. Pretty fun, actually.
I'm off, now. Enjoy the rest of your day, shitlords.
>>83581858
I'll get you one day
>>83582184
>>83582221
The worst part is that we do know people who think like that actually exist out there.
The mere thought of it really unsettles me.
If nature and experience have taught me anything is that extremes, no matter which side of which spectrum, are always, always bad.
>>83582221
I hope this is true. Very well constructed bait Anon, well played.
>>83582221In a lot of these threads I routinely play the part of both "sides" (not samefagging, just replying to different posts as if I was crazy Left or crazy Right) just to keep things going.
>>83582178
And that's why I want them to join the industry and calm down, so we can start discussing the solutions rationally. Right now, it's chaotic, because they don't feel welcome, and the other side doesn't really want them, since they act so hostile, but once we have a satisfyingly diverse group of creators, we can start acting rationally, and use common sense, and human decency, since people don't feel the need to compete with others anymore.
Open the doors for the hipsters, SJWs and all that, give them rope, let's make them feel like they're welcome, so they don't feel the need to bring an axe with them.
I know I'm dreaming of an utopia, but i really, really, just want people to be happy and stop the outrage culture over every fucking thing. And I'm willing to make every compromise on this earth to just calm people the hell down.
>>83582396
No. We don't want them we don't need them and they need to go back to their own industry they weren't ostracized for for most of their childhood.
All of those shallow, loudmouthed, reactionary pieces of shit can kiss my ass
>>83582383
Now I have evidence to pretend that all the people on Tumblr are just shitposters. I can pretend to have faith in humanity again. The world is saved.
It's all thanks to you Anon.
>>83579090
Lets go through a golden age character from each of the big two:
>Superman
Created by SJWs. Super immigrant who's early bad guys were real estate tycoons kicking poor people out of their homes
>Captain America
Created by Jewish liberals who were again Hitler.
Liberals and SJWs have been deep in the comic game since the beginning, best get a new hobby if you can't handle it anon.
>>83582472
You're welcome anon.
>>83582454
But they are a necessary evil.
>>83582566
shpeak of the devil...
>>83582566
I disagree and will be doing my best to dissaude them.
>>83582687
But this exact ''us vs them'' mentality keeps the fire going. As long as we feel the need to defend ourselves around others, we can't work together.
I don't like the way this game is being played, I don't like their outrage tactics, but I also don't want to fight against them. I want to work with them, so we could finally have some fucking peace.
>>83582821
Do you actually think they'll give up the us vs them though? That's one of my main complaints I wouldn't even care about the outrage tactics if they weren't so hostile.
>>83583083
>>83582821
This. They'll stop when we are no longer interested in comics. They attacked vidya back in the 70s and early 80s. They only stopped around the time the video game industry in America crashed.
>>83582821
When they stop insulting us i'll consider it. But these are not rational people, the only reason this conflict is "chaotic" is because of them.
>>83583083
I'd like to believe so, because right now both sides are in each other's throats and no one's trying to make peace.
Let's not pretend like we're being all calm and collected about this, not all the time at least. Some of them are completely nuts, but it doesn't look so good for us either when we just jump in guns blazing.
Someone needs to take the first step, and I'd like it to be us, just to show them that we are able to work with them and that we are peaceful.
>>83579090
we're not giving the comics companies any reasons to cater to us instead
>we don't buy the shitty overpriced product they put out
>we dont like their terrible new stories, insisting on only good ones, which they don't put out anymore
>we dont flip our shit and buy shit up whether it's pro or anti our shit
>we dont even have any money really because we spend it on things like actually having families, and not suing everyone for the slightest slight against us
but it's not like we lost anything. comics had already sucked for at least a decade prior to the liberals winning
We needed a black Spider-Man.
We also needed a female Spider-Man.
>>83583346
These people don't give ground. If we give them rope they'll pull the whole damn horse. Show them they're not welcome and then,hopefully, they'll leave.
>>83583352
We'll make our own comics with blackjack, and hookers!
>>83583422
I don't see that happening either. They won't just leave. That's more absurd than my dream of peace with them.
The damage they've done already is terrifying. And the reason they keep being noisy, is because they want change, so let's give them change and hope they can play ball.
This will keep getting worse, if we don't stop this. They ain't going nowhere, if we ignore them.
>>83583599
>so let's give them change
Then they'll just whine about something else. You have to understand that these people are NEVER happy.
They always look for something else to complain about.
>>83583599
Give them an inch and they will take a mile.
>>83583482
we are. and we do! at least, I do.
and i dont get preachy either. not that i could get away with it
>>83583718
>>83583765
But have we tried to give them what hey want? No. They're still these outsiders, when they want to be insiders.
How can we know for sure, they're never going to be happy, when they haven't even reached their original goal-- to be accepted, part of the team.
What do we got to lose? The situation has gone to hell a long time ago, so why not just try this thing?
