http://deadline.com/2016/06/x-men-apocalypse-choke-ad-criticism-fox-apology-1201766889/
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/fox-apologizes-for-controversial-x-men-apocalypse-billboard
How predictable.
>>83556975
and I know only marvel would buckle under the weight of SJWs
>>83556975
I am so numb to SJW bullshit this doesn't even make me mad anymore.
How scandalous, a villain acting villainous.
>equality
>Fox apologized
They still got millions in free advertising from a single relatively cheap billboard. They won.
I'm halfway tempted to try and convince SJW's to attempt to force Fox to remove the scene from the movie. They wanna knuckle under to pressure? Let the fuckers be controlled by it. They wanna play nice with SJW's? Let them be controlled by them.
Oh boo fucking hoo. The bad guy did something bad....
God forbid an omnicidal mass murder choke out a woman
>>83557487
Its because most feminists believe they live in the 1950s
>>83557093
People need to realize that you never apologize and never capitulate, if you don't then they lose all power and will find something else to bitch about.
>>83557381
>The bad guy did something bad....
I remember when people got mad at Brubaker (?) when Crossbones beat the living dog mess out of Cin back during his Cap run.
>>83557571
My favorite example is that infamous Batgirl cover with Joker
How about they apologize for not at least trying to make Jean Grey look attractive? Now that was a real sin, she looked like an alien.
Reminder that this is the person complaining about the billboard being harmful to women.
>>83557952
Reminder to add the fucking pic.
>>83557972
Robert Rodriguez's is crying about this,really,Planet Terror has two attempted raped scenes and a fuck ton of tna.
>>83558153
No it was the girl in the picture Rose Arianna McGowan,but your points still stand.
>>83556993
DC did it first, like always
>>83558433
DC didn't take that down, Albuquerque did. DC didn't give a shit and even made a parody cover of it.
>>83557139
SJW won't survive Mexico.
So, let me guess.
If the billboard shower Quicksilver getting his leg fucked up by Apocalypse no one would've said a thing.
Equality.
Also, I wonder if pic related would fly today.
This just shows that women aren't allowed to be characters. They complain that there aren't enough female characters in most movies, but as soon as you do anything with them as a character, you're oppressing them.
Men are allowed to get hurt, to die, to make mistakes, and be bad people. Women aren't. THAT is why there aren't as many female characters in media.
>>83556975
Really? Do they complain about the actual scene in the movie too?
>>83558505
Albuqureque doesn't have the authority to take it down. He's a freelancer under Work For Hire. (same as the Batgirl team)
They used his "request" as a convenient scapegoat.
>>83558534
*showed
>>83557972
Didn't this bird use to fuck Marilyn Manson?
>Women are strong and fierce
>The second she is hurt or threatened women cry and call victim.
>>83558534
Well that picture is a cartoonish boogieman menacing a woman in a way that visualy indicates what happens in the movie is in a dream.
The X-Men poster is a human-ish looking man choking a woman in a way that is more realistic.
I JUST REALISED SOMETHING
>>83556975
How the hell do SJWs wield such power? Are they multimillionaires? Do they extort politicians and bankers? Do they have mind control powers?
I truly cannot understand it.
>>83556975
>women are strong and independent and should be able to fight as well (read: better) than the guys!
>B-B-BUT THEY SHOULD NEVER GET HURT OR BE IN ANY SORT OF DANGER OF THOSE AWFUL MEN!
This is why the designated girl fight exists.
>>83558831
As far as I can tell, they don't even care about comics. From a business perspective, why even listen to non-investors?
>>83556975
> "Fox was quoted as saying: 'I thought you all wanted to see Jennifer Lawrence getting choked.'
>'I just don't know what you like any more.'"
Pretty sure the reason people complained wasn't just that in the movie "the villain is doing something villainous" or that a female is put in danger. It's that they're using that specific shot of a woman getting choked by a guy to advertise the movie. As if this one shot in a movie over two hours long best represents the movie.
>>83558534
>If the billboard shower Quicksilver getting his leg fucked up by Apocalypse no one would've said a thing.
Would that even be a good way of advertising a superhero movie? Like for other movies, don't they usually highlight them fighting more evenly or have posters of them looking strong or cool? Like for ASM2, they didn't use posters of Electro frying Spider-Man and Spidey writhing in pain to advertise the movie.
>>83559047
Shit advertisement desu, it doesn't even show off Spider-Man's butt.
>>83559047
That is a good point, but I think you might be giving the people who complained too much credit.
>>83559047
>As if this one shot in a movie over two hours long best represents the movie.
Fuck off, faggot. These cunts wouldn't have complained if it was a guy getting choked.
>>83559098
They why is the billboard ad getting attention instead of the scene in the movie that it came from?
>>83559047
Worked for TDKR. Granted, Batman's broken mask was more of an implication than a straight up fact of breaking the Bat, but it helped to establish that Bane is terrifying.
Whether the movie succeeded to do the same is a different story.
>>83559047
It's done to show just how powerful Apocalypse is.
He's a very big deal in the X-men comics, and as such will be shown to be that much more dangerous than a normal villain.
>>83559140
Because the movie's shit and no one wants to watch it.
Good.
It sends the wrong message to our mutant children.
>>83558505
DC gave him Batgirl after it was all said and done.
Meanwhile Marvel is probably never going to hire Cho again.
>>83559285
>Never going to hire Cho again.
Hahahahahahha.
They'll be tripping over themselves to get him back on anything as soon as humanly possible.
>>83559402
Cho is considered toxic and his contract is done with.
DC will probably be happy to hire him though.
>>83559285
Their loss. He's a good artist. His art very smut based, but that's not always bad.
>>83559047
Yes the heroes are shown being in peril while combatting a dangerous villain and might not make it out
>>83559148
Though in that case, the movie is definitely trying to make people think of the Knightfall story arc. Seeing scenes adapted from that story, like Bane breaking Batman's back, is something people wanted to see. However like you said, they used implication to advertise the terror without having to actual show Bane breaking Batman's back, which only further helps since people would then want to go and actually see that.
>>83559241
It could probably be done in other ways. I think even having some image of the heroes lying defeated before Apocalypse would've worked better than using the specific image of him choking a woman.
Like I bet when they have ads for the Justice League movie or Infinity War movie, they aren't going to put up billboards of Superman being choked by Darkseid or Captain Ameirca being choked by Thanos to establish what big threats they are.
>>83559453
>Toxic
DC already has him on Wonder Woman covers.
>>83559453
>Cho is considered toxic
No he's not. And he doesn't need either company. He makes enough on commission alone.
>>83558696
>two blue people
>realistic
Apologizing doesn't cost anything. FOX got what they wanted out of it -- free publicity.
>>83558756
>>83556975
Whelp, i got a hard-on
>>83558505
>DC didn't take that down, Albuquerque did
In what universe does an artist have the ability to do that
>>83559499
Hey I love Cho but the SJW hate him and actively boycott his books. That's who Marvel wants to please. He's probably not going to be there for the time being.
And he's already on Wonder Woman covers. Only a matter of time until DC puts him on a book.
>>83556975
What the hell is so controversal about something that happens in the movie, showcasing a bad guy doing a bad thing.
>>83556975
Companies should just adopt the Trump Shrug.
>>83559574
>Hey I love Cho but the SJW hate him and actively boycott his books. That's who Marvel wants to please. He's probably not going to be there for the time being.
People actually believe this horseshit?
They were never buying his books to begin with.
I'd put good money on the fact that Marvel wanted to renew Cho's contract but he had decided to move onto something else.
He'll always have a place at the big 2.
Hell, fucking BOOM! studios is falling over themselves to sign him up for deals.
>a 9-year old using "committing violence" in conversation
>a 9-year old confused by villain choking hero
>why is the monster man doing bad things
>>83559574
I'm not sure that the audience you're imagining really exists, and if it does, that it's a significant portion of the already paltry number of people who read comic books
>>83559139
>>83559098
>>83559047
Seriously. These three posts are all you need to read to realize this whole thing is a bunch of bullshit. It's not like the anon who posted the Spiderman picture made a bad point, in that it's not a very good advertisement of the movie. The other two posts sum up perfectly the reasons why the people complaining are a bunch of dead brained fucking retards though, and are actually displaying sexism against women.
So, if you're just passing by this thread and want to see three posts to read to sum the whole thing up, there you go.
>>83556975
This doesn't promote violence against women, this promotes violence against Jennifer Lawrence. Which is never a bad thing.
Also bitches be too sensitive.
In the Mystique solo movie. The villain rights a strongly worded letter to the editor against mutants.
Because violence in an action movie is bad when the female hero has to get hit.
>>83557568
Except the part where they have to be faithful to their husbands and learn how to cook.
Reminded me of this.
#CHANGETHEBEES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kWW9luMD4M
>>83559491
Except the women can't be shown as defeated. That would imply they were beaten by him. Only the males would be allowed to be there.
>>83559679
Anyone else tired of SJW's pulling their children into shit and pretending like the kids even understand the lines they are being fed? Whatever happened to it being considered distasteful when people tried using children to push agendas?
>>83559679
Kid sounds like a fuckin' retard
>>83559733
>Black Widow Movie
>The villain makes an unkind remark on her twitter and she has to find out who it is and stop them
>>83559768
Are you implying that SJW propagandists are unethical monsters who put their own ideologies before their children's developmental well-being?
>>83559491
I think they wanted to use a shot from the actual movie, and didn't have a better one that conveyed the same thing. Also the one shows him having a hero literally in his hands, which conveys the massage of his power pretty well, though I might personally have used a more powerful hero instead.
>>83559620
Because using that single frame out of a two hour movie gives the impression that the best representation a movie can give, the image that marketers thought would make people want to see the movie, is a man choking a woman.
Even if you try to make the excuse that it's showing the strong bad guy is strong and bad, with his abilities the best thing that they can use to show off his power is being able to choke someone? And Mystique isn't even a physically strong fighter, so it's not like choking her is badass.
>>83559574
You can't boycott something you don't consume in the first place.
>>83557972
How does that knife work?
>>83559896
A company won't take any chances they'll clutch their pearls and pull everything like the bitches they are.
>>83557569
Capitulation is what allowed the Nazis to spread unchecked through so much of Europe.
>>83559874
It's the main villain putting the poster girl in peril.
It's the same shit comics have been putting on their covers forever.
People will go to the theater to see if she gets out of it.
>>83559874
Mystique kicked half the army to death in Days of Future Past. She even beat up Wolverine in the first movie.
>>83559958
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
>>83556975
The only reason sjw are winning is because people let them. Blame those people, not the sjw
>>83559905
It franks.
>>83558517
Mexico is all about giving hot dickings to fat chicks, though. Maybe it will mellow them out.
>>83559996
Doesn't her fighting style involve a lot of dodging rather than tanking hits? She can get a lot of offense in, but she isn't exactly like Wolverine or Colossus where she can take heavy damage.
>>83559047
Who's business is it how they advertise their movie? Maybe it is 2 hours of Apocalypse choking people.
>>83556975
He's a fucking villain! Holy shit, he doesn't give a fuck about PC or sexism, he'll kill you both equally.
>>83558831
They don't. The billboards were not taken down.
>>83556975
Now if only they'd apologize for the shitty movie
>>83559958
So why is the Joker scowling at Nazi Tits?
Who is Nazi Tits?
>>83560214
She's good as an ambush fighter but if she's outmatched (especially against a mutant) she'll get beat
>>83556975
>shit movie gets free advertising from idiots
Who cares? Stop posting this thread.
I don't understand why all these companies keep apologizing for things they know aren't wrong, to people who have no real power over them.
If you feed the birds, they'll never leave you alone.
>>83560269
The perfect role model for little girls
>>83560418
The answer will really blow your mind.
galbrush paradox in action. feminists yet again are their own worst enemy. bring up the galbrush paradox to them though, and they'll claim it's not real and only nonexistent straw feminists complain. this is the joker cover all over again.
yea, but this is ok? Cause fuck men, men are disposable, you send them to mines, oil rigs, war, you let men die and get hurt. Women, we keep in the kitchen and bedrooms to cook and make babies.
"Feminism" sure as fuck doesn't make sense today. It made way more sense 8 years ago.
>>83560634
That's... I.... What?
How the fuck did that character design ever get out of the concept stage? "Yeah, a bull-dyke nazi muscle woman with swash on her T and A who wears assless chaps and no shirt. Sounds like an timeless classic!"
>>83561863
>woman
>>83559679
>Why is this bad guy committing violence against this woman.
Fuck Sjws i can't wait till actual violent murders get censored against women and guys get away with it because no one fucking knows what the fuck is going on.
ITT
>>83561863
You do know this is Frank Miller, right?
I'd much rather see Sophie Turner get sensually chokedand preferably be the one doing it
>>83556975
I mean I understand but>he's the bad guy
>>83562145
So is she.
>>83559574
What's the weather like up inside your own ass, where you're pulling all these facts from?
Hell, Cho was the main artist on Totally Awesome Hulk which got great sales numbers.
Keep your company wars in /v/ where they belong you stupid motherfucker.
>>83557569
If they do capitulate, people continue to give them money. Who else is Marvel going to get to buy their comics? You just pirate everything, right?
>>83559755
hah that was great
>>83559241
>It's done to show just how powerful Apocalypse is.
Is Mystique even really THAT powerful? Usually you would use an actually strong character being powerless for that task. Is it really that impressive that he can choke a blue shapeshifter? I would be more impressed if he was choking Colossus.
>>83562177
I used to. Certainly not anymore after this bullshit. The writers have shit the bed too much for me to sleep in it anymore.
>>83562177
People will still give them money if they're offended. Honestly they'll likely give them more money. Controversy breeds curiosity. Capitulation doesn't do shit for them other than make them look weak so they'll bitch about something even more irrelevant next time.
>>83562302
It's Jlaw screentime. Honestly they should be happy no one likes her. This is a good way to get rid of her under the guise of appealing to sjws.
>>83562373
I want more Sophie Turner, so hopefully JLaw either doesn't bother with the next one or isn't a big part in it
>>83558584
No. Just that is was used as a billboard. It is an odd way to market a movie I guess.
>>83562455
I want mystiques old actress back. I don't care how old she is. She was better.
It's a shitty poster/billboard conceptually. "Only the strong survive" while strangling a visibly much smaller woman? One who isn't fighting back or even able to struggle in resistance? C'mon.
Even if you want to try and pull the lame excuse of "it's totally to show how super evil he is guys" that's kicking a dog levels of lame.
Like the Cerebro takeover scene or Apoc overpowering Charles' punch in the psychic world is the kind of imagery you go for, with that concept, they just don't suit a still picture.
>>83562518
It's lame not controversial and it's a nonissue that's pretty much just fucking everything up for no reason.
>>83559574
>He's probably not going to be there for the time being.
If I were Cho I wouldn't want to be.
>>83561863
It was an 80s parody of an intentionally overedgy future written and drawn by Frank Miller.
This SJW bullshit being as loud as it is these days is a fairly recent resurgence.
>>83561863
Pretty astute. That's a panel from The Dark Knight Returns, a timeless classic.
>>83561863
>"woman"
>>83560589
Yes. Do what is necessary and don't take no shit from a man.
>>83556975
Fuck Rose McGowan for using this to get her name in the media again. When's the last time she was even in anything worthwhile? Grindhouse?
She blew the whole thing up and people were eating it up because a 'celebrity' was championing for the 'little people'. She made it out like it would've been fine if any male member of the cast was being choked by Apocalypse, but god forbid a female hero be in danger from a male villain in a film that revolves entirely around the plot of good vs evil.
I don't care, there's only one thing that Fox should apologize for
>>83562879
>but god forbid a female hero be in danger from a male villain in a film that revolves entirely around the plot of good vs evil.
Nobody cares that a female hero is in danger. It makes perfect sense in the movie and nobody has complained about it in the slightest. Context matters.
it's just a shitty billboard and imagery to promote the movie with.
>>83561883
>>83562822
Ohhhhh... Okay. That makes it no better.
>>83562053
It is? Man, he's bulked up. And grown tits.
>>83562603
>>83562614
Ah, don't remember him/her/it. So while the comic is indeed a classic, I remember girl Robin, old man Batman, and the fight at the end while my brain seems to have sent the memory of whatever the fuck that is to Recycle Bin automatically.
five hours in paint later
>>83563042
I lol'd
It's sad we live in such times of inequality
>>83563436
In twenty years, men will be the new niggers
>>83563507
Not unless we take action ASAP!
>>83562177
It's not SJW's buying Marvel comics. It's white male cucks who just have to have MUH SPIDEY even when the writers treat them like dirt
>>83563570
And yet, Marvel tries to pander to SJWs and not the people who actually want to buy their shit.
>>83559768
Yes, and I'm also tired of when conservatives do it.
>>83563507
Nah, because all this shit is mostly being used as a tool by politicians who don't really give a shit, and you only run into it in daily life in the bigger western cities.
I live in the middle of nowhere, and things are still pretty traditional, and no one has issues with men being men.
>>83559679
>Because he's a monster, dear
This is why we can't have female superhero movies
>>83563593
companies to pander to people who MIGHT buy their shit, not the people who always do or never will.
this sjw shit is all a marketing stunt
remember that EA hired "christian" protestors to draw attention to Dante's Inferno
>>83563951
SJWs fall into "never will" though.
>>83560634
That looks like Batman in his awesome homeless person disguise.
>>83564202
It is
>>83564294
Batman comics need more of this. It always makes me laugh when he punches someone in the face while ripping off some ridiculous disguise. The Hush/Catwoman comic had a good one too.
>>83559679
I hated the movie. But.
He's a bad guy. He does bad things. You think his golden standard is equality for woman or something?
>>83564420
>He's a bad guy.
why? he promoted the anglosaxon way of life. inclusive jew influence by pretending messiah. whats so bad about?
Isn't there a rule against a movie ad showing violence against anyone?
I had heard that they by law all need to be PG if there's a reasonable expectation of children seeing them.
If so, then why should the Mystique choking ad be allowed just to say "fuck you SJWs"?
Isn't breaking those society rules just to display violence this one time in this one context ACTIVELY pushing a new social norm?
And isn't that exactly what is said to be so wrong about Social Justice Warriors in the first place?
Or is it not the methods that is being objected to, but rather that there's no society-wide acceptance of hurting women specifically?
>>83556975
Seriously though, that's a hilarious fuck up coming from a big blockbuster. Why did no one in marketing even catch that? SJW or not, domestic violence is a real thing across the globe, so of course there will be complaints on such an image.
>>83564446
>Isn't there a rule against a movie ad showing violence against anyone?
Only in your autistic headcannon.
Pic in literal form.
>>83564446
I dun know. To me it looks like Apo is helping Mystique who got something lodged in her throat. It's pg to help people and we should encourage that in children
>>83564121
They eat up marvel shit. Who do you think is buying Whor and all new inhumans?
>>83556975
>Fox apologizes for "X-Men Apocalypse"..
Should have stopped there, Fox.
>>83558534
Wrong counterpart. Maybe the scene where Psylocke was choking Beast was used for promotion.
>>83564459
>domestic violence is a real thing across the globe
So is regular violence. No more violent shots in advertisements for action movies then?
>>83564477
Hey head autist, there's this little thing called Google, so now I know that it actually is a law.
Is your pic of you then? Seems like it.
>>83558693
You are getting it wrong. It's using that specific shot as promotion that's wrong.
>>83559047
This is correct. Especially
>It's that they're using that specific shot of a woman getting choked by a guy to advertise the movie. As if this one shot in a movie over two hours long best represents the movie.
>Like for ASM2, they didn't use posters of Electro frying Spider-Man and Spidey writhing in pain to advertise the movie.
There are things you have to watch out when you're marketing a big blockbuster family movie, and Fox's marketing fucked up.
excuse me, but you guys aren't getting the point and are majorly overreacting. im just saying. its not that he's choking her, its that they decided to use that image to promote the film. the scene in the context of the film isnt misogynistic.
>>83564537
>previous pic personified in post form
>>83559975
The difference here is that it is a billboard of a big blockbuster super hero movie targeted to adults and kids alike. It's not a niche thing like comic covers.
>>83559996
But they didn't use a shot of her kicking a soldier as promotion. This is what's being pointed out by some anons here. Never mind some SJWs.
>>83559047
you know, I thought of this too, but I can't imagine a picture of Apocalypse punching or kicking Mystique going down any better. People just can't handle the image of a big guy harming a women in any way.
Which is hard for the ad team, because their whole campaign is about making apocalypse look like the guy who can end the xmen, and Mystique HAPPENS to be pretty much the main character of this series.
>>83564589
Dude, all ads are taken in out of context.
The whole point of an ad is to put forth a representation of the yet-unknown product.
>>83562925
It's considered racist for a family to be the same color now I guess?
half the actors look like they're only there because their parents made them
>>83560959
If they used that as a promotional poster/billboard for the movie, then yes it will get complaints too.
>>83564589
I thought the whole point of the movie was to show what a gigantic badass Pockerlips is. Strongest mutant in the world or whatever. So they have the adverts being "negative" in tone to show that shit has really hit the fan. Not only is this guy bad, but he's totally wrecking Mystique, who apparently is Queen X-Man now for some reason.
So yeah, I get the reasoning, and people complaining are being stupid, and Fox is stupid for apologizing.
>>83562997
>Nobody cares that a female hero is in danger. It makes perfect sense in the movie and nobody has complained about it in the slightest. Context matters.
>it's just a shitty billboard and imagery to promote the movie with.
This.
People are missing the point that they used that shot for promotion. Other cape movies have conveyed their villains as evil without choking someone in promotion.
>>83559679
Correct way: Wow violence against women is pretty bad isn't it, something to think about
Actual way: wow the guys who made these movies are sexist, the solution to this is to ban things and fire people, yes that will help women
>>83564679
>Not only is this guy bad, but he's totally wrecking Mystique, who apparently is Queen X-Man now for some reason.
Which is hilarious, as I mentioned earlier. Mystique was never high tier powerwise, she just has a very functional superpower for daily use. Apocalypse might as well be strangling a bunny rabbit.
>Make an ad showing Apocalypse strangling a woman
>people complain
>all this publicity for the cost of a billboard
>>83564514
Yes, advertisements and promotion generally don't show too much violence in such a graphic manner, especially for family-oriented action movies. I'm just saying this from a PR point of view. Domestic violence is an issue prevalent today, and I'm not saying this as an SJW thing, just a fact thing. It's just that when you're marketing stuff, you have to watch out for such things. Cover corners as much as possible.
>>83564484
It sells really well digitally ;^)
>>83564546
>>83564589
>they want to push Mystique as the face of the x-men movie so of course they will put her in promotional material
>they want to show Apocalypse who is one of the most iconic x-men vilain with his survival of the fittest mindset and make him looks like a threat
The picture show exactly what they want to show.
Why is this the scandal when the director is a literal fucking sexual predator?
>>83564729
>>all this publicity for the cost of a billboard
I don't know, the billboard isn't a very good portrayal of a superhero film. A blue guy strangling a blue girl? I wouldn't even notice it is suppose to be a film about superheroes. For all I know it is tragic romance went wrong between body paint enthusiasts.
>>83564589
This. I agree with you, anon. Apocalypse choking Prof Xavier would also get complaints. It's the choking plastered on a billboard for a cape movie, a cape movie that has families as one of its target audience, that is the source of the majority of the complaints.
>>83564747
>they want to push Mystique as the face of the x-men movie
The mystique costume is all they have left, No Hugh Jackman, Ian Mckellan, Patrick Stewart, or Halle Berri to market
>>83564589
>excuse me
>you guys are majorly over reacting
You see people? These are the retarded hypocrites we argue with. They lack complete self awareness.
Its quite obvious whats going on in this ad.
JLaw, the star, being threatened and dominated by the main villain. People are suppose to see this and say damn, maybe this is an important villain?
They've had many tweets on their twitter advertising how powerful apocalypse is. Even his name is fucking powerful. It took gene phoenix summoning way too early to clean him up.
The counter outrage caused by this is well deserved. Hopefully more people will come out to call the cunt out on twitter.
Almost all of the outrage over this poster has to do with feminist complaining about gender. The only people who have claimed its not are the people defending themselves after a large backlash against their bullshit by pretending they didn't call the ad misogynistic.
>>83564643
>representation
This is what some anons are pointing out. They have chosen a choking scene to promote their movie, a movie that targets kids and families as well. Not even an SJW, but this is something you have to watch out for when promoting something. It represents your movie and your company, and could be taken out of context easily.
If it were a male they wouldn't care. How is this not unequal treatment of men and women? Either men aren't worth protecting from violence, or women are too fragile to be able to be in situations that apparently its fine for men to be in.
It shits on men and women.
>>83564760
Pedophiles aren't bad, just misunderstood anon. Salon told me so.
>>83564747
People are pointing out that they can market Mystique as the next face of X-Men and show Apoc as evil, without any choking.
Did other cape movies promote their villains in such a graphic manner?
>>83559574
>>83559453
Based DC. Fuck Marvel.
>>83556975
Well according to feminism women are special delicate things that need to be put in a box and you can't say or do anything mean to them in fiction or in real life BUT women are totally strong and independent and deserve equal or superior everything
>>83557158
This. SJW's are the last people on Earth you want to talk to about fiction. They refuse to understand context. You'd be better off talking to a literal retard about fiction.
>>83564813
>If it were a male they wouldn't care
Nah I doubt it. If Apoc was choking Prof X, some mothers would still complain because of the choking thing.
The point here is that it's a public billboard for a family cape movie and it has choking.
>>83564810
What all of us misogynists secretly teally want is for Apocalypse to be raping Mystique on the poster, because nobody ever taught us that we shouldn't rape people.
>>83564813
>If it were a male they wouldn't care.
But it makes Apocalypse look like a pussy.
By all standards Mystique shouldn't even be on his radar, she couldn't even scratch him. Putting that on a billboard makes Apocalypse look like a pathetic person who actually thinks Mystique is actually a threat worth dealing with.
>>83564760
>Why is this the scandal when the director is a literal fucking sexual predator?
His accuser turning out to be a lying fraud who completely made up his claims might be a part of it
>>83559768
>Anyone else tired of SJW's pulling their children into shit and pretending like the kids even understand the lines they are being fed?
God fucking yes I am. They can take their appeal to emotion and go get fucking raped with it
>>83564867
I think it's more that they wanted the villain in a poster with their literal poster girl.
>>83564813
>How is this not unequal treatment of men and women?
I sincerely hope this isn't a serious question. You can't be this dumb.
>>83559679
>Because he's the bad guy and she's a good guy. Bad guys do bad things
Wow how fucking hard was that
>>83564887
>violence against women in posters is bad
>the same poster with a male being choked is ok
No anon, you can't be this dumb
>>83564837
The problem is that all this bullshit stemmed from feminist shit.
These things happen all the time with conservative groups and it largely goes ignored or is quietly handled.
These people made it specifically about gender which is the whole reason why it got taken down and why fox issued an apology.
People don't like it when you use a gun to negotiate in the same way you shouldn't bring up "misogyny" in a situation that has nothing to do with it. If you want it taken down for chocking you shouldn't use misogyny to threaten people.
You aren't fooling anyone. Even on /co/ most people see how paper thin your arguments are.
>>83564546
>It's using that specific shot as promotion that's wrong.
But if it was a male character it'd be just fine, right bitch?
>>83564898
It's the violence in the billboard that's bad. You can get angry at the SJWs but Fox marketing did fuck this one right up.
Even Deadpool didn't resort to this one. You don't put off-putting things as promotion for your blockbuster movie.
>>83564913
No it wouldn't still be fine. You will still get soccer moms complaining about the choking in a family cape movie, in a public billboard. Bitch.
SJWs are fucking obnoxious but Fox did fuck this up.
>>83564883
>I think it's more that they wanted the villain in a poster with their literal poster girl.
I know, but it still ended up pathetic. Choking the poster girl just doesn't work, you are suppose to make the poster girl look cool. Or at least, we need to already BELIEVE she was cool, and THEN be surprised at her being overpowered.
In short, it is a bad billboard because it sucks. Mixing two ideas that shouldn't be mixed.
>>83564861
>Nah I doubt it. If Apoc was choking Prof X, some mothers would still complain because of the choking thing.
Oh no a few Christian soccer moms would go tut tut
>The point here is that it's a public billboard for a family cape movie and it has choking.
No the point is it's something bad happening to a woman and it triggers feminists so they're dragging children into they argument like they always do to cover up their own butthurt, double standards, and hypocrisy
>>83564901
It is bullshit that this stems from feminist shit. But I am acknowledging that this ad is bad and Fox fucked up.
I know you have a crusade against tumblr feminists. I am just saying that complaints against the billboard regarding the choking is justifiable, whether it's about feminism or not.
I should have added in my prev post that some people "itt" are pointing out the choking
>>83564810
>tin foil conspiracy theories
So let me get this straight. You are mad that a lot of people got mad at you getting mad at a poster because of imaginary sexism so you are using so third rate psychology to make the rest of us feel angry or something?
Anyone else find this funny? Did he think people would really get peeved at this?
>>83564954
>Hulk getting choked
DELET THIS
>>83564916
So you're saying there would be this much outrage if it was wolverine or professor x being strangled?
>>83559285
How long has he been off of TA Hulk?
>>83564954
I just want to say I was driving around with my unborn child the other day and when we saw this xe asked me "non-gender specific parental unit, why is there so much violence against gamma monsters?" and I just didn't know what to say. How do I explain it to xer? I'm sad. I'M SAD.
>>83564863
I think there's a whole thread devoted to that on /aco/, but of course consentual violence is a fairly commonplace sexual practice, not that I would want my nieces to see that on a public billboard either.
>>83564937
You said no one would care, but I pointed out that soccer moms would care, and you simply dismiss it?
SJWs or soccer moms, they're groups that complain a lot and most companies buckle under them.
I also don't like it when SJWs drag children into their cult, but this time they do have a solid argument about this. Fox fucked up when they plastered choking in a billboard to promote their family cape movie. They gave SJWs and other similar groups a good reason to rile up people against them.
>>83556975
Can't Mystique grow a dick if she wants to? Fox should have just said she had a dick in that shot.
>>83564967
>>83564954
He looks more like he's giving the robot a piggyback ride and it's making me laugh.
To be honest, this is a good example of showing your cape heroes in action without getting too graphic.
>>83563832
Or genuinely threatening villains in female-led movies or shows.
>>83565008
>>83565005
>soccer moms would care
isnt it replaced by mexican nany class?
>>83564958
Aaaaand here's an anon too dumb to avoid doing what that post predicted they would.
(a point was proven, but by who?)
>>83565008
Now it's violence against trannies
>>83564955
The problem is that you are thinking we are mad about choking when the majority of us are mad at the feminist shit.
We are on complete opposite spectrum here.
Minority of complainers only care because of chocking
Majority of /co/ only cares because of feminist shit.
You shouldn't be making a general argument considering you are a minority and the people you are arguing against are the minority too.
You are doing exactly what you are complaining about, not getting what the complainers are bitching about.
Either admit you care because she is a woman or just make your post only respond to the people bitching about chocking only. If you are the original person who started this chain that is. Hard to tell who you are specifically.
>>83565045
But not if you give Apocalypse a big set of rockin tits
>>83556975
Why does movie Mystique have scales and no clothes anyways?
>>83565008
>Can't Mystique grow a dick if she wants to?
yes.. but she cant be heterosexual lesbian. i wonder what will happen when she will get Alzheimer syndrome.
It's quite amazing the business world has moved from "Customer is always right" to "Someone that was never going to be a customer is always right."
>>83562614
>Story soundly placed in the 1980s
>timeless
>>83564765
>>83564795
>a movie that targets kids and families as well
But that's wrong: X-men apocalypse is PG-13 so not a movie targeted to families and kids. The most family friendly cape movies are the MCU one, X-men movie were always darker maybe not as much as the DC one but still more targeted toward teenager and young adult than kids and families.
>>83564810
Here is your (you)
>>83564837
Because other cape movie vilains weren't genocidical tyrant with a survival of the fittest mindset, his fucking name is Apocalypse, he is the "final boss" of the X-men franchise. So yes with a vilain like that you want to be a bit more graphic than with your average movie vilain.
>>83565073
>Customer is always right
where the fuck do you live?
>>83565045
Don't waste your anti-feminist outrage over that, a lot of feminists hate and fear those ex-men just as much as you.
>>83564979
You fucking bet. Not sure if it will be the same severity, especially for Wolverine. But Prof X? That has the disability angle that's ripe for the taking.
It all boils down to the choking thing in a public billboard for a family cape movie. This is the US we're talking about. Parents get riled up when public things show inappropriate things.
>>83559679
>>83565092
It's a Murikkkan thing.
Customer is treated like a golden deity or some noble caste and the employee or business owner is a trash wallowing peasant mudsucker barely worthy of being paid for their products or services.
>>83559679
Hoo boy the next generation is fucked
>>83565107
im shaked i must say.. SHOCKED!!
>>83565047
Why would I admit that I care because she is a woman? I don't care if Apoc is choking a woman or a man. It's the choking I'm pointing, and Fox fucked that up. I'm just saying that this time people complaining can be justified because Fox fucked up by promoting their movie with choking. You don't see that in other recent cape movies. Even the gritty BvS didn't have that in their promotion.
You can proceed to get angry about feminist shit. Especially those that drag kids into their argument.
>>83565097
This became huge from a tweet anon.
From someone specifically talking about women.
You keep spewing this shit but the history shows and when you look on twitter, the majority of the outrage was definitely for stupid reasons.
This ad should've done what it would've anyway. Faded into obscurity as a stupid, somewhat offensive ad. Just like the "God doesn't exist" ads offend Christians who make them out to be a huge deal.
We have laws, years of market research and education, and market forces that will decide whether or not ads should be taken down. Not inorganic reasons that originate from mob movements. The people who jumped on twitter did not care about this ad until then. They are not organic or natural forced.
>>83565073
It's when they want to get the most audience as possible
>>83565115
>Customer is treated like a golden deity
seriously?
-Trayon Christian, 19, taken to NYPD precinct despite using his own debit card and ID at the upscale Manhattan store
-The college student, who lives with his mom in Queens, New York, had saved up from his part-time job to buy the Salvatore Ferragamo belt
-Mr Christian is suing Barneys and NYPD for unspecified damages
>>83559679
>i base my politics on things children say
top kek
>>83565139
Oh so the outrage is over the choking itself but not because of the genders of those involved? Well let's take a looksee at the links in OP
>"There is a major problem when the men and women at 20th Century Fox think casual violence against women is the way to market a film,"
>2oth Century Fox is apologizing in the wake of wide criticism over an outdoor ad for X-Men: Apocalypse that depicted a violent act against a woman
Oh hey looks like you're full of shit
>>83565119
>9 year old has her parents always complaining about sexism
>regurgitate what her parents say when she saw an ad
The fun thing will be when she will have her adolescent crisis and will do everything that make her parents mad.
>>83564399
Is that english? Or some latin based language that is frightfully close?
>>83565139
I thought you were this guy>>83564589
Who had some heavy undertones that he cared.
I still honestly think this ad would've just faded away by the time it would've been brought down anyway.
>>83559679
>If she can see why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch, why can't Fox
>>83565213
>Is that english?
yes. its finest queens English. if you dont get it then you are inferiour.
>>83565190
I think I mentioned that this time the feminist outrage has basis because of the violence in it. The choking plays a large part to back up their complaints.
The feminists are outraged because Apoc is choking a woman, plus it's choking in general. It has both violence and feminists complaints.
If Apoc is choking a man, soccer moms would complaint because of violence.
Both of those situation has choking involved.
It all boils down to the choking thing, that's all I'm saying. It gives a strong argument against Fox, no matter if feminists or parents are complaining.
Fox fucked up their marketing. That's all.
>>83565156
>Police matter
>"Customer"
That's silly, Anon. You're silly.
>>83562879
This, the whole outrage thing was started by a forgotten "celebrity" who want a bit of fame back. She doesn't care about feminism she just wanted some free promotion because her wallet is empty and nobody want to hire her.
>>83565233
Mid-West Newscaster is the true king of all English dialects. It is clear, concise, and free of rotten regional slang euphemisms.
>>83562518
See I didn't even realize the little quote was what added to it which I guess makes more sense why people would get mad. I guess if they were determined to use that picture they could have come up with a better tagline I suppose.
Meh, understandable but still a bit silly.
>>83565322
>Mid-West Newscaster
>inferior race
well. what should ginger say in such times?
>>83565363
It's a language, not race, you amazing idiot.
>>83565061
>Why does movie Mystique have scales and no clothes anyways?
1) When they introduced her the person playing her was a famous model instead of an actress, and they wanted to show off her body
2) It significantly strengthened the themes of the character by making her so much more obviously 'not human'
>>83565218
I'm not that guy, although he kind of has a point. Majority of the complaints, and the start of the complaints, come from feminists, true. It could have been ignored because a lot of people don't take feminists as seriously as before anyway.
But the feminist argument can gain momentum due to what that anon pointed out: Of all scenes, they used Apoc choking someone. It has the feminist angle and the violence angle. The feminist outrage started already but it could trigger other groups due to the violence angle.
I'm still laughing how Fox didn't catch this before printing it. One look and it's obvious that it's ripe for complaints.
>>83565275
You don't realize what you are promoting.
Its actually a problem that has always been in the west actually, not unique to feminism/whatever.
The people who hate violence only got this victory because of the feminist. They were such a tiny part of a larger cog that they co-rided.
And so, from now on, every person who complains about violence will try and use the misogyny scapegoat.
This is as natural as the backlash against it. Most feminist weren't affected by this and personally didn't feel a single emotion. However, because of team warfare, this became a big deal. This didn't come from people who genuinely cared or even should.
Just like most people in this thread don't care specifically about this but are /tv/ crossboarders who care about the larger scope.
Its why its bad. I really hope you can see this. You are bringing in an ally who will be used more often because of its effectiveness, which in turn will bring these threads and the backlash back with them.
If this occurred from genuine people, then this shit wouldn't happen. Everything is turning in a battle field now though. Stop defending them.
>>83562518
>It's a shitty poster/billboard conceptually. "Only the strong survive" while strangling a visibly much smaller woman? One who isn't fighting back or even able to struggle in resistance? C'mon.
>Even if you want to try and pull the lame excuse of "it's totally to show how super evil he is guys" that's kicking a dog levels of lame.
This.
It was the perfect fuel for SJWs and other similar groups to complain. Fox marketing did a shit job.
SJWs are obnoxious again, but on the other hand Fox did a botched up job.
>>83564979
>So you're saying there would be this much outrage if it was wolverine or professor x being strangled?
Imagine if they had a big billboard of Apoc kicking Charles' wheelchair over to show how evil he is. That's the close comparison.
And people would not be impressed.
>>83565421
You seem to be posting a lot in this thread
>>83565427
>tell that into the ace of true american ukrainian you moron.
>>83565410
You should also see that I am not defending them. It's just like what you said, they gained momentum together because they have a basis of complaint, which Fox fed them. I am not defending the SJWs. I am just saying that this time they have a legit reason to be obnoxious because Fox fed it to them. These people are vultures, and this was a low-hanging fruit for them, which the Fox marketing department should have seen.
>>83565451
I'm not sure what you're talking about. I came in this thread late. You seem to be in this thread for a long time.
>>83565428
That'd be funny as fuck. Or just straight up pushing the chair down some stairs. And in the other poster Apocalypse can be seen watching TV with a beer in the background while Mystique cooks dinner with a black eye in the foreground.
>>83556975
For fucks sake america - will you get your SJW's under control? Stop catering to stupid.
>>83565509
Our women are more susceptible for fluoridated water. I'm sorry.
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