>DC Rebirth is bringing back the heroes before New 52
>Cyborg is still in J'onn's spot
>>83519633
Pretty sure that is a WB mandate so that there can be a black man on the team.
>>83519633
Welcome to DC where legacy only matters as long as it doesn't touch Johns ideas
>>83519633
It's new 52 timeline with some shit added in a la Zero Hour
>>83519659
Making Cyborg the token black just highlights DC's lack of A-List diversity rather than negate it...
And also causes the unfortunate side effect of Wonder Woman appearing to be the JL's token female
>>83519659
>Pretty sure that is a WB mandate
It was JOHNS IDEA
>>83519659
J'onn can be a black person when he's human form. He's done it before and most of the time in shows or movies he's voiced by a black man
>>83519633
J'onn is chilling on Mars with Doc.
>>83519763
>>83519659
>tfw everyone forgets about John Stewart
>>83519855
Johns didn't forget about John
That's why he added Cyborg, so Hal could stay on the JL
>>83519855
>>83520002
This. Johns pitched Cyborg to WB executives so he could Shield Hal Jordan, After the movie went to shit WB executives would had been happy to use the more "diverse" alternative.
>>83519711
Legacy = Johns's headcanon
Does anyone has the "memet my son" image with Johns?
Its not even Cyborgs fault.
Its all because of Hal boner.
>>83519659
>Pretty sure that is a WB mandate so that there can be a black man on the team.
>Black man on the team
So again, why isn't J'onn's on the team? he's black
>>83523107
Even Hal boner doesn't really explain it. Clearly Johns is willing to expand the JL's roster (adding Billy and Lex) so why couldn't he add J'onn aswell?
>>83523177
The Black cosplay isn't exactly the same. Maybe if he were an alien like Supes and that was his default look.
>>83523234
And cyborg is more metal than black
>>83519633
Its because each character has a gimmick already.
Batman is the human.
WW the goddes.
Green Lantern the space cop.
Flash the fastest man alive.
Aquaman king of Atlantis.
Superman, the last of his kind, he has a bunch of powers.
Martian Manhunter, the last of his kind, he has a bunch of powers.
You see the problem?
>>83523320
>Superman
>Last of his kind
Bullshit, he's like fucking Uchiha, there's one behind every damn rock
>>83523292
Cyborg is a walking computer, makes writers even more lazy
Why don't they just have BOTH of them? Cyborg does not deserve the hate he gets.
>>83519789
But he's not a black person. Him shape shifting is like a white person having some kind of skin graft to turn his skin brown. He's a white man wearing brown skin, not a legit black person.
>>83523370
Kek
Plus he's an overpowered demigod who pulls new bullshit powers out of his bottomless ass whenever the situation calls for it. Only difference is he's a decent character.
>>83523320
massive oversimplification, besides the most popular Justice League adaption had 3 aliens on the team
>>83523745
Yep, and Mystique isn't a woman but a shapeshifter that decides to look like a woman, still feminists complain about Apocalypse abusing her.
Face it, Jonns counts as a black dude.
>>83524007
>Face it, Jonns counts as a black dude.
Nah. Starting to look kinda baity.
>that post
>>83524070
meant for >>83524007
Do you see a Martian Manhunter here? If he wasn't on Super Friends, Johns doesn't care.
>>83519784
No, it was Johns idea to use Cyborg. It was WB's idea to BLACK the JL.
I'd be happier with Black Lightning over Cyborg. He was offered a place in the league anyway.
>>83523320
That's bullshit and you know it. Martian Manhunter does all kinds of trippy mentalism shit and has adventures inside people's brains. Nobody else has insight into the psyche; even Wonder Woman doesn't have that kind of magic-like adventures.
>>83524041
I did this a time ago because we had this conversation since nu52 started, I asked people about MM and what race does he fit on Earth, those who knew who MM was will always tell me he's a black dude, some times they ad the but "he's actually a green Martian", but still is a black dude.
But maybe this only happens in my city.
>>83519855
Probably because John hardly does shit with the League. He didn't even join it full time until Kyle went to space after his run in with gay bashing
>>83524127
Who the fuck is Genjis Khan?
>>83524183
Samurai.
>>83524127
WELL GEE ITS A GOOD FUCKING THIN YOU POSTED A PIC OF THE SUPER FRIENDS
YEP, DEFINITELY THE SUPER FRIENDS. IGNORE THAT GIANT FUCKING SUPER POWERS TEAM LOGO THAT TAKES UP 2/3RDS OF THE IMAGE
YOU FUCKING ILLITERATE RETARD
>>83524133
>Jonns
>Psyche adventures
Never, he always goes aaggghhh after he reads a mind, then you have him unconscious for a while
>>83524229
Same continuity as Super Friends.
>>83524127
Cyborg has been DC's "Le Token Negro" of choice for quite a few years now.
With Marvel having so many black superheroes now that they ARE STARTING TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH ONE ANOTHER IN MOVIES, DC is forced to push boring as fuck Cyborg in everything.
Otherwise the Hall of Justice looks like a Klan meeting.
>>83524268
Although that's Cyborg's son in the pic, his awful blackness completely covered in pure metal.
If J'onn's doesn't count as a black why people count Clark as white?
>>83524331
Jonn doesn't count as black just because he's green. Superman counts as white because he's a white Kryptonian.
Yes, there were black Kryptonians.
>>83524331
Does Thanos count as being black because he's purple?
It's a popular color with some black people.
>>83524331
He looks white at all times and Clark was raised practically from birth by white Midwestern parents. Which makes him culturally white
>>83524380
So M'gann counts as a while woman?
>>83524331
Clark was raised on Earth as a white person, J'onn came to Earth as an adult
>>83524438
Does this count as a black person?
>>83524510
Of course not! It counts as a black WOMAN.
>>83524559
That's a drone, not a Queen, genius.
>>83524604
Anon, all xenomorphs are female
>>83524604
Xenomorphs are all female you stupid fuck.
>>83523320
Which is dumb. The League was never about diversity of powers like say the Avengers or the Legion of Super-Heroes. They had two stretchy guys for the longest time because each one was a talented individual.
>>83524654
>>83524662
>facehuggers impregnate you
>female
>>83524704
>Anon makes himself looks like a fucking idiot. Tries to divert attention away by making a very shitty argument about facehuggers.
>What are female sea horses
You are still a stupid fuck.
>>83524764
That's a different anon, firstly.
Secondly, there's nothing canon to suggest they are all "female" Ridley Scott offhandedly said he considered the alien in the original movie a hermaphrodite.
This whole "all aliens are female" is some crap you've pulled off of fan discussions.
Might be an unpopular opinion but I say demote MMHs powers to just shapeshifting, body splitting and psychic. Maybe give him a leaner physique as well.
He needs a power demotion to separate him from Superman in the eyes of casuals and they need to put emphasis on how important those powers are to him. His New52 series was great because it was so much about J'onns psyche and how it manifested with his powers.
>>83524861
>Quoting non canon stuff
>Quoting an offhanded comment
My argument remains.
>>83523217
Because if there was no other black they'd have replaced Hal for John.
>>83524930
I mean why not have Cyborg and J'onn on the team
>>83524896
Should we "demote" Shazam to magic lightning powers too?
>>83524923
No, it really doesn't. You are getting in an uproar over a point that's entirely substantiated by "stuff some people said on a website".
Anything Ridley Scott suggests is 1000x more valid than message board drivel.
>>83524976
No, because he's not part of the O7.
Thats another thing that Cyborg has over MMH right now which is a more distinct power set. Having a team 6 varied powersets + 1 Superman+ is off putting for a lot of companies. There's a reason War Machine wasn't the token black guy in the Avengers film even though it was a team of whites, which is that he wasn't distinct enough in his power set.
>>83524964
>I mean why not have Cyborg and J'onn on the team
In the comic? The JL will eventually swell again to too many members, DC books always do this.
In the movies? Because they barely have the Trinity speaking to one another, Cyborg is going to be window-dressing, and he's too "Superheroey" for the Snyderverse.
>>83525065
There were no Token Black Guys in the Avengers movies, Falcon has yet to appear in an actual Avengers movie, same for Black Panther.
Post a good MMH designPro tip: You probably can but his original design certainly isn't it
>>83524268
I don't even think there's a Asian person, just fantasy countries (Like Wonder Woman), I mean I hate to be tumblr but it'd be nice to have blacks, asians, and so forth in there.
>>83524964
they can barely write the ones they have on now, adding more characters will just mean more people will just stand around
>>83524229
Literally the same show with a new title. I guess the Justice League cartoon has nothing to do with Justice League Unlimited...
>>83524896
Wonder Woman has Superman's speed and strength too though.
I guess what they could do with John would be making his strength basically psychic in nature though, like what they used to do with Superboy in the 90s. That would keep his powerset while differentiating him from Superman.
>>83525065
Superman and Wonder Woman share almost all their powers and they're as fast as the Flash.
There's no real distinction power-wise between the Leaguers. Stop this bullshit.
>>83525140
Cyborg's original design made him look like a cheap stripper.
>>83525209
Wonder Woman serves the important function of keeping the Justice League from appearing gayer than a San Francisco bathhouse.
Ironically, the same purpose Gadot served in Fast and Furious.
Why no Black Lightning, though, so that he can zap dem niggas?
>>83525271
I'd go with that, but only if the lightning were purple.
>>83525250
She's pretty gay herself, though.
Is Cyborg the only minority in the Justice League; human wise that is? Excluding Aquaman, and Wonder Woman
Granted a lot of people hate minorities even in todays world. 4chan is basically what everyone feels in the inside about minorities and blacks so it makes sense why there's only one.
>>83525271
Too many jive turkeys.
>>83524923
If you'd like to post some source or evidence to back that argument up that would be nice
>>83525316
Those guys back there in the background are pretty queer. I hope that Black Lightening isn't walking around with those dudes everywhere.
>>83525294
As long as Bruce and/or Clark appear sexually attracted to her, the aura of gayness is kept to a family-acceptable level.
Her powerset is irrelevant.
>>83525218
>as fast as the Flash
Are you even aware that "goes fast" is not even the tip of the iceberg for the Flash?
>>83525129
That's what I'm saying. By all means The Avengers film SHOULD have had a token black guy. It was Whedons SJWfest and its an international summer blockbuster which features a team of people from around the world, perfect material for having token diversity.
But they couldn't because the only black guy they had at the time was War Machine AKA Iron Man+ which isn't interesting on a diverse team of powersets.
To any kind of casual on looker MMH is the War Machine of the DCU. He's a last of his species alien with flight, superstrength and laser eyes. Thats why they need to push HARD on the psychic, shapeshifting and body splitting aspect of his powerset and the simplest way to force that is to strip out the Superman like aspects. Its what his DCYou run was great for and I hope in future they use it more.
>>83525218
>and they're as fast as the Flash
Grandpa what did we say about citing pre-Wally!Flash as the Flash's base powerset?
>>83525351
Batman is already the tech/computers/armor guy.
Having Cyborg on the JL is like having Iron Man and Ultron on the same team.
Cyborg has the benefit of being the only black hero that normies give even half a shit about.
Same as Wonder Woman, the only female DC hero in the public's consciousness aside from Superman's cousin.
>>83525342
>>83525294
This reminds me that the other day i was reading a fanfic about Wonder Woman and Steve Trevor were Superman and Batman were lovers, Steve Trevor and Hal Jordan were sex-friends in the past and that Steve were raped by big and strong aliens in a far-away world because of his shinning blond hair and ended up almost dying from infect thanks to his bleeding ass while Wonder Woman tried to protect and confort him.
I'm not even gay but i read the whole thing.
>>83525300
Rebirth is adding a muslim and a hispanic so not anymore.
>>83519633
Hey OP did you read Rebirth? Where does the big bad hang out? put the pieces together
>>83525485
Nigga, you gay.
>>83525477
>Batman is already the tech/computers/armor guy.
>Having Cyborg on the JL is like having Iron Man and Ultron on the same team.
and Johns added Lex Luthor to that
>>83525533
>Dr. Manhattan killed the Martians
Is that what you're saying?
>>83525538
I was searching something to read with Wonder Woman in it, but then Steve ended up being butt-raped and by then i had already read enough and was invested in the story.
The whole thing was pretty sweet and heart-warming despite all the rape and ass bleeding an shit.
>>83525564
They were driving down the property value of his glass palaces.
>>83523320
>Batman is the orphan
>Superman is the orphan
wow find your own gimmick geez!!!!!
>>83525837
Aren't Aquaman's parents dead too?
>>83525910
No, his mom's alive now
He's de facto an orphan
>>83525340
IIRC, those are other leaguers in disguise to test Black Lightning.
The ape-woman, if memory serves is wonder woman. Glowy guy is green lantern, Three Musketeers is ollie. I think.
I am still mad.
I will always be mad.
On my deathbed I will still be mad.
When the seas heat up and the world descends into global catastrophe I will still be mad.
In the afterlife, when I get to the gates of Heaven, St. Peter and his angels will ask me "Are you still mad about Martian Manhunter?" And my reply will be "Yes."
When the race of man is no more and the ruins of cities have crumbled into dust I will still be mad.
Ancient alien civilizations will find the smoldering, volcanic corpse of the Earth and decode the ancient secrets of the Internet and they will find this post and so my eternal anger will be brought forth into the far-flung reaches of outer space.
When the last tiny flash of heat in the universe dies and all fades away into entropy, my hatred will remain.
I'm still so fucking mad I took the time to write this stupid fucking post, and it still doesn't make me feel even the slightest bit LESS mad
I fucking hate you WB
>>83523320
That's so wrong. MMH is the only one who's thrown into the situation with a complete lack of understanding Earth. WW and Aquaman aren't sure of the new areas they see but they've dealt with plenty of others.
>>83519633
This is a super easy retcon.
Just establish that J'onn was there at the beginning, but he mind-wiped everyone of his involvement with the League to protect them from some undisclosed threat.
>>83527934
Why are you mad? If they did a Martian Manhunter, he'd just be an ugly CGI mess.
Well he had his own book and IIRC It sold pretty badly. Rebirth is just beggining, thought. We know we are getting Atom, JSA. LOSH and Shazam. Martian Manhunter may be in future plans. One can only hope.
>>83528182
Isn't that just Titans Hunt? J'onn was their first new recruit in the New 52 canon anyways so he still had history on the team before he fucked off
>>83519659
DC needs better black heroes if Cyborg is their A game.
>>83524861
They're frickin' space ants man. Come on now.
>>83528329
yeah like vision
or drax
or hulk
or rocket
or groot
it's obvious johns pushed cyborg (somebody who has never had a serious JL connection) because he knew WB was going to push for stewart as black team member so he threw j'onn under the bus to keep hal
>>83528630
You do know all of those except the Hulk predate the New 52 and the period it was planned in, right?
>>83528790
I mean don't predate
>>83524229
Oh fuck off, asshole.
I guess The New Batman Adventures and Justice League Unlimited aren't part of their original respective series'?
>>83528825
>developed by Alan Moore
what a sellout
>>83523745
Why are his hands blue
>>83528916
Ultraman wore a different costume in JLA Earth 2?
>>83528630
not really
people forget that green lantern was supposed to be DC's trying to attempt a shared cinematic universe. it failed then they tried again with man of steel
but johns was involved with the film then and knew WB would reboot with stewart down the road or with a JL movie, so when they did the new 52 who did he launch the new JL team with? cyborg. out of fucking nowhere. and suicide squad is pretty much the new 52 team and several years later johns has positioned himself as a kevin feige of DC and reboots the comic line again back to the "glory days"...except shitborg is still on the team and now we have TWO johns donut steel characters and surprise they're both lanterns and kyle is discarded and views himself as an omega man and stewart is a supporting character to johns' husbandu Hal Jordan & The Green Lantern Crops book
he played everybody like a damn fiddle
Besides Jon Stewart who do you think is worthy of the fabulous Token Black position in the League, /co/?
>>83529056
Wonder Woman
>>83529056
Steel
Good. I have never liked Martian Manhunter, and I probably never will. I love me some Miss Martian, though.
>>83519633
looks like Wallyfags found a new thing that pisses them off now that they got ginger lightning back.
J'onn has an ongoing you can read. You do know that right?
>>83519659
I still don't understand why they don't just use Mr. Terrific. He's not being used for anything else.
>>83529285
It's cancelled
>>83524127
Whoa. Cyborg was on this? Had no idea he was in anything animated before TT.
>>83529056
Black Lightning. He's a street guy like Green Arrow and Canary so he's got an interesting place in the team dynamic. Plus he already has history with the League, what with Arrow trying to get him to join up because of his blackness.
Barring him, I guess Terrific, or maybe Icon for being a Milestone guy. Then he can be with Beetle and Captain Marvel as the representatives of companies DC has assimilated.
>>83529300
Being a legacy character means he's tainted
>>83529668
But nobody knows that except turbonerds like us. It was a reboot too, so no one would have thought twice about it.
J'onn isn't black. He never stood a chance
Why do we need tokens anyways? Shouldn't even the people who complain about diversity realize how this leads to shallow products? I thought they say they hate tokens too. Has no one pointed this out?
>>83520002
>>83520457
>>83524143
What's Black Lightning doing nowadays? Get him on the team.
>>83519633
J'onn is the token jobber of the team due to how OP he is. I don't see why his exclusion is so bad. Cyborg at least has Shazam to hang out with and regularly be the guy who gets to save the League when they get BTFO.
>>83529903
Liberals are racist as fuck
>>83532221
>most powerful team on the planet
>lol, electronigger
>>83519633
Manhunter is a fucking scrub who has to be written that way or he would make Superman look redundant. Sure Cyborg is shit but they Manhunter can just fuck off
>>83523320
Superman is an alien raised on Earth
Maritan Manhunter is an alien who lived a full life on another planet and has to make a new one from scratch on Earth, while looking completely unlike humans
>>83532382
That doesn't make sense though. Why would racists even want minorities as pointless tokens in media unless they wanted to use them as an examp...you're on to something....
>>83523745
>He's a white man wearing brown skin, not a legit black person.
He's a green man wearing brown skin.
And you could easily cast a black person to play a green one.
>>83520002
This is one area where I think Johns fucked up. John should be on the JL, so that he can be completely and utterly ignored in GL comics without anyone getting pissy.
>>83529056
Vixen
>>83519659
No, Johns wants everyone to know his husbando is the REAL green lantern so he made Cyborg a member to stop anyone from crying GL should be John Stewart for diversity sake.
>>83533121
I mean, he's right.
>>83529056
Sue Dibney
>>83533096
She was on JLI. Why didn't you buy it?
>>83519633
Once the JL movies are done, they'll change the roster a few times and then reboot the series by bringing back the original Big 7 (like they did in the 90s with Morrisons JLA).
>>83519633
I don't mind Cyborg being IN the League but him as a founding member is fundamentally wrong. If DC wanted a more balanced team at the start of the New 52 I'd have used Vixen.
Vixen addresses both the racial and gender imbalance among the founding members, and her animal powers tie her into the the Red/Green story line DC were running at the time. Her being a founder also doesn't invalidate her relationship with other characters the way Cyborg does.
I'd throw Black Lightening in too, because fuck it he's awesome.
And then Johns could have had Cyborg in the team after the time skip.
>>83532980
The problem is Johns was WRITING the JL comics and who would want to write the brown mannequin with no origin story or character motivation?
Like at least Cyborg has arguments with his dad and maybe angst about not being able to play sports anymore or some shit like that.
>>83519633
>its been 5 years since the new 52
>the most interesting thing cyborg has done is play ping pong with someone
>>83534515
>the Red/Green story line DC were running at the time
Just because Swamp Thing and Animal Man were the most popular books at the dawn of the Nu52 doesn't mean their storyarc was supposed to be important on the macro scale.
It's not like "The reboot will make all the actual A-lister titles suck" was PLANNED.
>>83534550
But Wonder Woman, Batman, Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman and Action Comics were all average at worst post-reboot.
>>83532812
Nobody actually wants tokens. Tokens are what publishers and execs mandate so they can placate the diversity crowd without actually giving a shit about diversity.
>>83534573
Varying degrees of agree and disagree and other words with "gree" in them.
>>83534650
an-gree?
>>83534604
Then why do I see publicity and people cheering on when comics do this shit instead of everyone calling them out on it? I'd much rather have no minorities or women in a work then a token being tossed in. The diversity crowd should be against it if they want any quality or for it to go anywhere
>>83534515
>I don't mind Cyborg being IN the League but him as a founding member is fundamentally wrong.
Why though? It's no different from the time when Black Canary was made into a founding member because they couldn't use Wonder Woman.
>If DC wanted a more balanced team at the start of the New 52 I'd have used Vixen.
Or Dr. Light. Or Katana. Or Judomaster. Or a Milestone character, like say, Rocket. Hell, even Blue Beetle could have been a founding member.
>Vixen addresses both the racial and gender imbalance among the founding members, and her animal powers tie her into the the Red/Green story line DC were running at the time.
That's a very poor argument when the Red and the Green had no impact on any other books being the Swampy/Animal Man crossover which was just a gimmick that got traction.
>Her being a founder also doesn't invalidate her relationship with other characters the way Cyborg does.
Cyborg hasn't really suffered from losing the Titans connection. Other Titans have, but not him. If anything, he's actually been allowed to grow the best out of all the NTT members thanks to his usage in Justice League. He's friends with Shazam, teamed up with Metal Men on a regular basis, his awkward relationship with his dad is actually a pretty good basis for his own ongoing book...
>>83534658
Sure, the Nu52 inspired plenty of that.
>>83528182
He already has
He was part of the team then he quit and mind wiped
His time on the league was essentially off screen
Then he joined Stormwatch which he quit and mind wiped them too.
THEN J'onn went insane and split his mind into like a few dozen identities and made a plan to bring back old Mars and replace it with Earth while at the same time fighting himself and saving the Earth.
>>83534539
Idk his ongoing was pretty cool
Last issue he literally saved the day from hacking terrorists while taking a nap and tormenting movies.
>>83519633
He had a pretty solid DC You Title, it's you faggots fault for not buying it.
>>83534787
>Why though? It's no different from the time when Black Canary was made into a founding member because they couldn't use Wonder Woman.
Personally, I would argue that the League isn't the proper place for a teen character, as a matter of grandeur. Training minors is, like, the entire purpose for which the Titans exist. (Or even the JSA, provided said minor is a legacy to a Golden Ager)
Although...Nu52 Vic is written as college age, isn't he?
It would've been smart, now that I think about it, to have him on both teams and be the connection between the two, like he's the one who forms the TT in the first place specifically so other kid capes have the kind of safe environment to learn and get advice from a more experienced hero that he didn't have when he started.
>Johns will never put Plastic Man back on the JL
>Instead, we are treated to Shazam showing up every couple years because Johns remembered he wrote him once
>>83534783
there's a lot of pro diversity in media and social media which creates an air of people agreeing with this
>>83534820
>tormenting movies
What, like... "Norbit"?
>>83524007
>Mystique
No she's a woman. Her "default" is still female. Manhunter's "default" is a green alien, not a black dude
>>83534820
i tried reading that series but i took a drink for every time someone said the word 'tech' and now i'm dead
>>83529056
Bloodwynd.
There should be Doctor Fate in the justice league. Or a character who could be his equal
>>83535527
That's usually Zatanna. Fate's more of a Society guy.
Mister Terrific should be the token black guy.
>>83535775
Forgot about her
>>83535837
mr terrific would never actually get to do anything on the justice league because god forbid another character steps on batman's toes
it would just end up like JLU where he sits behind a computer and yells at stuff
>>83535527
Nah. Magic mixed in with usual superheroes is really lame.
>>83532396
Black Lightning is based as fuck mate.
>>83535076
I think they make a Guardians of the Galaxy reference and maybe Airplane! ?
I can't remember past GOTG cause it stood out the most.
>>83525316
What's a jive turkey?
A dancing bird?
Like a jitterbug duck or a tango hen?
Movie Synergy. Don't worry, it's okay when DC does it.
>>83536205
Cyborg has been a JL Member before the DCEU was announced you maroon.
>>83535979
He's also Outsider, we don't want another "he belongs with Teen Titans" right?
>>83536248
How is that different than any other Movie synergy?
>>83536321
Because you're assuming the movies are influencing the comics and not the other way around.
I mean hell Lois and Clark had more influence to the comics than the DCEU so far, since they actually postponed Supes and Lois marriage in the show and in comics till they could their relationships at the same time to confuse the viewers and readers less.
>>83534783
Because liberals can only see the color of the skin, not the character
>>83538312
The problem is that you're ignoring that the new 52 was molded with movies in mind. It doesn't matter if plans were finalized only after the new 52 began. They were obviously talking early planning and scripts and marketing shit. Harley being in SS in both the new 52 and the movies isn't a mistake nor is WW being Zeus's daughter.
But Cyborg was also in Robinson's JL anyway pre-Flashpoint.
>>83519659
Isn't that why they tried so hard to place Icon on the team a few years back?
>>83519659
Honestly I'm no longer sure that's the case it's clear nobody wants him so there must be some other reason for pushing him they have other black hero's they can use
>>83534550
It did get into a fair few things auctualy
>>83534787
>Or Dr. Light. Or Katana. Or Judomaster. Or a Milestone character, like say, Rocket. Hell, even Blue Beetle could have been a founding member.
>Implying social justice warriors care about diversity that isent black
>>83534953
It is kind of strange how he just floats in and out.
>>83535527
If you have fate on the league you kill all chance of constantine ever helping you with anything
>>83539869
Do they have history i am unaware of? And John staying away really all that bad, given his track record of getting people killed around him/being a dick to Swamp Thing.
>>83540034
I forget what it was but wonder women did enlist John's help on something recently off panel
She did not enjoy the expirence
As for fate current constantine fucking hates fate.
>>83540080
He also doesent like earth 2 fate
>>83519659
>have black actor play Martian
Problem solved
>>83539540
>But Cyborg was also in Robinson's JL anyway pre-Flashpoint.
And that league also had dick and supergirl. It was a legacy league.
>>83536248
>Cyborg has been a JL Member before the DCEU was announced you maroon.
And was pitched as a founding member by the CCO. The movie guy,
Cyborg got into the leagure thanks to Johns love for Hal.
>>83540409
He was also in Smallville's JL but that was kind of a secondary roster anyway since they couldn't use certain characters.
>>83533121
kek. this.
fuck nujohns
>>83519633
>tfw we will never get a roster this inclusive
Honestly, more than A Black Guy On The Justice League, I want to see a more low-scale team of black/minority characters actually from poor communities and stuff. Black Lightning, Rocket, Amazing Man, et cetera.
Cyborg doesn't get to be on the team because he's a rich guy. Likewise Steel and Mr Terrific, as much as I like them.
Dunno, I think it'd be an interesting perspective if written right, and it'd net DC those precious SJW brownie points too.
>>83541445
>those costumes
Fucking disgusting.
>>83541445
Morrison's JLA and Waid's by extension had a lot of those guys though.
