I can't fucking wait
If anyone hasn't seen Tom King's interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_irwmzg31w
I know issue 1 sucked, but I feel like Tom King's story arch will be a blast
That Batmobile looks great
>>83487156
Tom King looks kinda weird
>>83487261
He looks better and younger when his lack of hair is covered
>>83487312
It just looked like he was on the edge and always looking around for something
My fear is that he's going to try to be too crowd-pleasing to the much broader Batman audience. It seems like he's putting a LOT more splash pages into Batman so that it's pretty easy to read, but I think some of the best moments in particularly Grayson and also Omega Men have been with more complex layouts.
I really, really hope his writing stays as weird and comicbook-y as it was before. (And, another Duh hope, but I hope the Rebirth was mostly Snyder's influence)
>>83487366
kek, you guys go too far sometimes with the "King is the ultimate CIA guy", like he's the Jason Bourne of Comics. But that always makes me laugh.
I just think guys like Scott or Tom being interviewed in public crowds always look weird because they're so grateful to fans, but they also gotta shill their own stuff because DC asks them to, so they gotta find the right balance between "I'm just a normal dude with sometimes good homeruns and good fans" and "read my stuff, it's gonna be the best ever and the DCU will never be the same after my groundbreaking never-seen-before mother-of-all-story!".
>>83487253
Agreed, it's basically the Batmobile from the Batman Animated Series. So I love it
Gotta say, Finch's art in this looks pretty amazing, in a "mainstream" kind of way. Not sure if he can keep up delivering such a good imagery throughout his schedule, but this brings an adequate mood and good, powerful postures.
>exploring Batman's limitations as a human and having to face them
sounds great
>>83487156
That Batmobile is pure sex holy shit.
I'm so happy Bellaire's on this book, good coloring really matters with Finch
>>83487670
Yeah I'm hoping she can turn his mediocre art into good art
Him rushing a double shipping book probably won't help but we'll see I guess
I went and found a larger image for you guys drooling over the batmobile
>>83487513
I think that's a possibility.
Batman will be dumbed down adventure shit for casuals. Probably be crossover heavy with non-Batbooks too in order to capitalize sales
Detective Comics will be the containment book for Bat fans who want the mythos and the Batman Hitler Youth club. If anything major happens to the franchise, it will happen here, for the bonus point of making people buy Detective Comics and making it sell big.
(Case in point, Batwoman's wedding will take place in Detective Comics)
Snyder's All-Star Batman will be the artsy grim dark book.
>>83487513
Even if his Batman i what you fear at least he might get another book later since Batman and Sheriff will be all he has afer Vision is cancelled.
I don't get why people dislike Finch so much
>>83487513
>decompression
Dropped.
>>83487830
His art is generic at best and really bad at worst.
Generic is okay, I guess, but Finch is a step down from Capullo.
>>83487513
They once wrote Batman living through his 60s and 70s shenanigans and having Batman of Zurr en arrh as his backup personality with Bat mite as his voice. That was along time ago, but Batman editorial under Doyle seems non restrictive.
The Gotham and Gotham Girl concept sounds really interesting to me. Definitely going to stick it out through the first arc at least to see how that plays out. I assume it ends in a fight with them versus Batman eventually based on that interview.
>>83489171
I'm hoping that'll be more of an early climax, I really want to see batman actually deal with the internal conflict of questioning his own capabilities.
If he just beats them to a pulp with no problem then I'd be really disappointed
>>83489171
I feel like Gotham will grudgingly respect Batmans opinion but Gotham Girl will get mad at Batsy
isn't he the one responsible for pic related though?
f you ask me, Batman got off to a bad start in Rebirth, and not just because of that. The whole one shot was just...bad.
>inb4 it's an edit
I know. I fucking made it.
>>83489896
He co-wrote it with Snyder and it was just a one-shot. I didn't think it was awful at any rate, there have been far, far worse Batman stories.
>>83489896
why is that bad? Batman has been portrayed as suicidal sinc the 80s
>>83489940
He wrote a lot of homolust moments like this in Grayson tho.
>>83487156
Wait what someone story time issue 1 please I missed it
>>83489940
>>83490011
I dunno. I'm not complaining because of the Scarecrow, for example, whose retcon I found refreshing.
the whole thing just felt like a stumbling batwank, with the exhibitionistic exercising, those 6 minutes underwater, another fucking member of the bat-family while being self-conscious of how many freaking robins there are...
Also I can't actually remember what the issue was about. Nothing memorable at all for me
>>83490104
I mean, it's the mainbook about Batman so it's expected to have some level of wankery about the character.
>>83489171
Nah they'll end up being killed off they're just a plot device
Either by a sacrifice or by a villain
>>83490104
>exhibitionistic exercising
It was literally just one old guy watching him. It's not like women were crowded around wetting their panties.
>6 minutes underwater
Tom Cruise can hold his breath for 6 minutes, why wouldn't Batman be able to?
>another fucking member of the bat-family while being self-conscious of how many freaking robins there are
Fucking what?
It's fucking hilarious how Bruce can't get away with SHIT these days because of how eager people like you are to scream "BATWANK" every chance they get.
That Batmoblie looks like one from Batman The animated series with a bat head on the front. I like that Batmoblie I'm glad it's in comics
What is this new thing Batman is trying with Duke?
>>83490606
He's going to try not molesting him
>>83490606
a not-Robin helper
more of a hero and less of a sidekick I guess
>>83490327
>exhibitionistic exercising
even if he was alone, a normal pole in the open would have sufficed to "train under extreme hot weather" which I guess was Bruce's aim. Also, the thing with him and Duke kicking the tree was just... I don't know. I know it's supposed to be a reference to YO, but they just didn't sell it to me
>6 mins
in sub-zero termperatures, with maximum physical and mental stress? even when he's supposed to make it only to 4 mins according to the comic's own rules?
>another member of the bat family
Batgirl, Oracle, Batwoman, Batwing, Nightwing, Robin, Red Robin, a couple more of robins, Blackbat (I don't even know anymore?)
All of this while Batman is shown to be aloof, uncapable of propper intimate socialization, and preffering to work alone
And Duke and Bruce were even discussing how he didn't want to be "another robin" iirc
Also, I love Batman, and I love to see him achieving impossible feats and being ridiculously good at everything as the next guy, but you know, small dosis over time, please.
>>83490056
here it is, buddy
>>83367739
>>83487261
Torturing people at the CIA is one hell of a drug.
>>83490791
>>83490327
also,
>implying Tom Cruise is human
aliens posessed that body decades ago, anon
Miki and Bellaire's doing god's work to make this art look tolerable. It already looks so much better than Janin's Rebirth special.
>>83487765
>Snyder
>Artsy
Pick 1
>>83491576
Agreed, they are both brilliant at what they do. Also how many fucking books does Bellaire do? She's a coloring machine.
>>83490739
I took it as more of an assistant and less of a sidekick.
>>83491411
>aliens posessed that body decades ago, anon
Ironicly, Tom Cruise believes the exact opposite of this
>>83492003
that's what they want you to believe anon
>>83490054
What do you got against those kinda moments
>>83492723
Seriously, that page isn't the problem.
If anything's batwank, it's the page of him slipping, and then being able to get back onto the tower
>>83490791
The whole pull-ups scene served two purposes, to get in a good workout, and to keep up his act as an eccentric thrill-seeking playboy in front of Lucius. Also to try and make a breathtaking page for Janin to draw.
Are you seriously mad that Batman was able to hold his breath for 6 minutes in cold water? He has state-of-the-art gear and has been training for shit like that since he was a boy. There are men in real life who can hold their breath for over 20 minutes. And kicking the tree was just an homage, I'm sorry that wasn't good enough for you.
And you have no idea what they're going to do with Duke, yet you're already whining. Unbelievable.
>>83492947
He was just switching hands.
>>83492947
He didn't slip he was changing arms on the bar
>>83493032
>eccentric thrill-seeking playboy in front of Lucius
What does Bruce gain from this? Doesn't he already know he's Batman?
>>83487156
shit book.
Dropped.
>>83490606
He's nt trying anything new. He's literally Tim. Listen to one of Tom King's interviews and he literally describes Duke "unique" role in the series as when Tim started out
>>83493071
Better question, why would he be exercising unmasked doing things that only Batman can in public, let alone when it's hotter than it's ever been in recorded history and barehanded on steel in the sun?
>>83494714
Where does he describe the role?
>>83494231
Ok. I haven't read the Rebirth issue. How could it be bad enough to get all of you fine /co/mrades calling it weak or downright "shitty?"
Can we get a storytime up in this?
>>83497129
Look in the archive. The problem with it is that it doesn't tell a complete story. It's just a meandering issue where nothing really happens except for having a lame symbolic allusion to the Rebirth concept. It's definitely Snyder's fault though. It reads like his typical garbage.
>>83497195
I will check the archive. And that's a damn shame the issue wasn't too great. I'm sure King will turn it around.
>>83487156
I'd feel more confident if the new vigilante wasn't named Gotham. That is a bit on the nose. At least Gordon looks his age again.
>>83495003
It was on a podcast he retweeted. Don't remember the name of a podcast but it was on soundcloud
>>83487513
It has a lot more splash pages because it's being drawn by Finch. He's got a thing for splash pages.
Also, they sell more afterwards.
King barely seemed to be involved with the Rebirth issue. It mostly seemed to be Synder setting shit up for All-Star.
This issue is just more of a reason for me to skip floppies altogether, trades it is for me.
>>83500199
Everybody is saying this, but it thoroughly reminded me of a King script in every respect but the pages with big black panels announcing dates and stuff.
It felt flat to me.
>>83497129
>>83497743
Batman - Rebirth 001 (2016) (digital) (Oroboros-DCP)
http://www31.zippyshare.com/v/oP99FUzc/file.html
Batman - Rebirth 01 (2016) (2 covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Faessla)
http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/IIxSTHH9/file.html
Batman - Rebirth 001 (2016) (Webrip) (The Last Kryptonian-DCP)
http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/HpxqSvEd/file.html
>people are actually unironically excited for Rehashbirth
>>83502618
They don't want to admit their golden boy, King, would write something so dissapointing. I could definitely see some SNyder there too, but not most of the issue at all.
>>83503187
This.
>>83493032
Lucius knows who Batman is, though.
>>83503187
Yep.
>>83487806
Batman is basically 2 comics since its bimonthly
>>83503594
He can do four.
>>83503614
he can but DC isn't necessarily interested in putting out 4 comics by him per month
>>83503623
He was writing 3-4 for Dc at a time. I think they would put him on one more.
>>83493032
>keep up his act as an eccentric playboy
Lucious knows.
>he has state-of-the-art gear
no face mask nor oxygen tanks. also, his suit cowl and mantle would weight him down, and the conditions in which professionals are able to sustain their breath so long are very specific. Certainly not in extremely cold water and swimming their asses off to
>you have no idea what they're going to do with Duke
another boy-helper. It's pretty darn obvious
also, stop getting this mad at me not liking the one shot very much. I've given my motives, which I deem reasoble. no need to be disrespectful
>>83503641
At most it was three and one of them was co-written by him.
>>83503707
>no face mask nor oxygen tanks. also, his suit cowl and mantle would weight him down, and the conditions in which professionals are able to sustain their breath so long are very specific. Certainly not in extremely cold water and swimming their asses off to
you may have autism
>>83503755
I may, but you're a 100% pure certified cretin.
>>83503707
Maybe you should e-mail Tom King and let him know you're displeased with having Batman hold his breath too long, or exercise in unreasonable conditions, or having a sidekick.
Fucking pedantic aspie.
>>83503792
no, you are seriously a fucking inbred if you read superhero comics and get annoyed about them having unrealistic physical abilities
>>83503801
>>83503814
as I said before:
>>83490791
"I love Batman, and I love to see him achieving impossible feats and being ridiculously good at everything as the next guy, but you know, small dosis over time, please"
also if you are so sensitive about me making any criticism about your precious batgod, maybe it would be better if you just offed yourselves
It was a mediocre story, both in art and in writing, I've already said why I think it to be so and I'm not the only one saying it is, nor the harshest critic.
now fuck off and let me be. love the damn book if you wish.
anon out of thread
>>83487261
I like that his voice is about one step away from being Bobcat Goldthwait
URG.
>>83487156
very ... very shit.
Not a fan of this cover. I'm hoping the variants are cool.
>>83508361
Several retailer exclusive variants are available; check eBay
>>83491840
At least 10 or so books.
>>83503614
He's still doing Sheriff, and Vision isn't over yet
>>83508575
Pretty sure he's done writing Vision, anon.
Based af
>>83490054
Gotta give the gays and girls their fanservice too, anon. It's only fair.
Look at it this way, the more scenes like this there are, the harder it is for people to argue against fanservice of female characters as well.
>>83488043
He has never been "really bad"
Pic related is some of his worst work dew to Diana looking to preposterously young but at the same time, she is well rendered and detailed and would look great IF she was meant to be a young teen Diana.
>>83509641
Those proportions on Diana seem a little off. Like, her arms are too small for that body and the head seems a little too big.
>>83487156
I enjoyed the Rebirth issue, it wasn't anything outstanding, but it was a good read nonetheless.
I'm looking forward to King's solo stories. And I'm actually excited about the new characters he'll be introducing.
Do we know who the villain will be in the first arc? Any speculations?
>>83511817
Gotham and Gotham Girl
>>83512659
Gotham and Gotham Girl? Isn't it Gotham Boy and Gotham Girl?
>>83512686
No, it's just Gotham
>>83512759
Well, that's just silly.
>>83512659
Nah, I think they're meant to be heroes, albeit amateurs. King said he wasn't planning on creating any new villains because there are so many old ones that haven't been used in a while.
The interview makes it sound interesting. It's going to be about Batman's internal struggles and limitations, which King has done well in Omega men and Vision.
>>83514418
They're going to be the main antagonists of the first arc, even if they're not "villains" per se
>>83487156
Based Tom King.
Omega Men's first issue (and Sneak Peek) also weren't really great, and we all know how good it ended be.
>>83516427
That's good to hear. I've tried a few times but haven't got past the sneek peek and first issue yet. It's the massive exposition and character dump
>>83516427
I loved both the Omega men preview and the first issue as well desu. I knew it was going to be a great series based on them. It was just a little confusing to read, is all.
Batman seems a little bit preview-y for a 20 page book and had Snyder's involvement. Though King's interview does give me more hope. It sounds like it'll go more into Batman's psyche rather than him saving the city from being destroyed every six months.
>>83516798
Gotta save that destruction for the crossovers they have planned
>>83516878
Atleast it's not every six months like we've had for the past five years.
![OMEGAMEN-%232_dylux-29_5596132de358c8.96967344[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/u2yahY6.jpg "OMEGAMEN-%232_dylux-29_5596132de358c8.96967344[1].jpg")
>>83516635
The second issue is much better, especially last page, and the third issue rises above that and sets quality standard for the rest of the series.
>>83516798
The first issue of Omega Men was too chaotic (especially without background from later issues) and it was more showing characters and world without starting the plot.
>>83517047
Well, that's a pretty fucked up page.
>>83516939
True
I hope editorial doesn't force it on King
>>83516427
I don't think the sneak peek or first issue were bad but the first issue was REALLY dense (as was the second issue)
>>83516878
I think he said that the crossovers would happen in only one of the issues each month and the normal story would continue uninterrupted in the other one.
>>83489171
Wow, that's really what they're called? Someone told me that in an earlier thread and I thought they were rusing me. What the fuck are they supposed to be?
>>83517570
I think bascially just Superman and Supergirl in Gotham
I really like Gotham's costume.
>>83514418
>>83514936
My theory is that they're going to appear good at first and have their hearts in the right places, but the end up over stepping way too many lines, like killing. Eventually their idea of saving Gotham is to be tyrannical rulers over it since that's what it takes. That's when it's up to Batman to try and stop these god like people IE A man with no powers trying to get by in a world of gods.
>>83517824
Nah. Not to speak too highly of King, but I doubt he'll go along those lines. Wayyy too been-there-done-that.
He's described them as being two eager young superheroes who get a little too ambitious. They genuinely think they can do better than Batman, and with their powers, it's possible.
I think that, with all their powers, they won't realize that the city needs its protector to be unpowered. The cover of Batman #4 shows Gotham falling in the sky, presumably because he loses the ability to fly.
>>83508792
It's 12 issues long
>>83518074
Yea you can tell from how King is stressing Bruce as a non meta that the Gothams are gonna be closer to Superman in power and style and the arc of the story is gonna be how Gotham needs a non meta street level hero
Does he have Asperger? Either way seems like a really cool dude.
>>83519295
I don't see how anything he said was asperger
>>83518074
In the interview, King says it's more about how helpless Batman feels, and him doubting himself. King has been doing the same in his other books, and he writes that great. Both Vision and Sheriff have a cliche plot. It's in the writing that he excels.
>>83517047
The preview was good on it's own. The first issue was confusing, but it gets better if you read it again after a few issues in.
>>83520990
Vision doesn't really have a cliche plot other than following a dysfunctional family.
>>83521576
The premise is cliche - Robot wants a family, backfires
>>83521772
Post previous examples that make it cliche then
>>83521820
Robot trying to be human is a pretty cliche trope, anon. DC had been trying to do it Red Tornado before. But King's writing is what elevates it.
>>83487156
high pitched voice
boner lost
time to find a new husbando
>>83521918
Post previous SPECIFIC examples that make THIS COMIC cliche then
>>83522126
>>83522126
Data
Bicentennial Man
Red Tornado
>>83522126
Are you looking for strictly comic book examples? Robots failing to become human is standard stuff with either hilarious or tragic results.
Family is a little more narrow but a non comic example would be Data from Star Trek building his daughter cause he wanted a child but it failed in the end. Damn good episode.
