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What's his fucking problem?
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Autism, duh
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He's ultimate example of a fan turned pro.
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>>83485946
Angry pedophile
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>>83485946
The problem is, your guns aren't even loaded.
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Litetally "not muh _____"
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>>83485946
>Grant Morrison: Now, although it is alive, it isn't what we would call conscious. It's growth and it's actions are essentially reactive like a plant, or an oyster, or John Byrne.
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>that story where Byrne fucked up a potential merger between Marvel and DC in the 80's.

Not sure where a merger would have been a good thing but reading the depths of this guy's autism is always funny
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>>83486387
Elaborate! ELABORATE!
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>>83485946
>it's a "Byrne writes an entire comic book to answer a question no one was asking besides Byrne" comic
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Poor John Byrne. No one likes John Byrne. Not even John Byrne fans. Especially John Byrne fans.
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>>83486539
>WHY ELSE WOULD SANDMAN AND NORMAN OSBORN HAVE THE SAME HAIR COLOR? THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY COUSINS.
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>>83485946
Jim Shooter made him feel in secure with his big dick and big muscles
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>>83485946
Aspergers.

Not even joking, he's probably in that area of the spectrum.
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Being very Godly.
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He'd rather copy and paste photos then draw something
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>>83485946
He's too much of a True Brit.
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>>83486164
>Are these actual nipples or some sort of DC Nipples one-shot
>"It's because I'm also a reasonably competent artist and I have a tongue stud."
>"I bet Mark Waid never made you feel like this did he?"
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>>83486535
Purportedly Marvel was going to buy out DC the way DC did to Charlton and Fawcett. Byrne got wind of it, bothered the wrong people about it (specifically, writing Marvel's Superman or whatever) and the deal feel through.

I don't quite believe it myself.
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>>83486535
>Marvel almost buys DC
>some dummy lets it slip to Byrne who's working for Marvel at the time
>Byrne marches up to the CEO of Marvel at that time and starts rambling about how much he wants to write and draw Superman
>complete with visual aides and test pages and shit
>after Byrne leaves his office CEO calls the EiC of Marvel and tells him to keep him the fuck away from him
>a lot of people believe he axed the deal because he didn't want to deal with spergs

Funny story, but the last part is pretty presumptuous and doesn't make any sense.
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>>83488559
>>83488943

i think the funniest part is he still ended up doing Man of Steel
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>>83486030
Yup.
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>>83487141
Wait, Sandman and Norman are cousins?
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>>83489675

In Byrne's head
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>>83489728
Because of this once-popular hairstyle.
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>>83489728
Well, okay then.
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>>83487149
You goddamn right.
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>>83489883
When will they learn?
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>>83486600
As someone who thoroughly enjoyed the post-crisis Superman reboot, I can confirm this is an accurate statement.
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>>83489883
Every time I see a picture of Shooter I think he's going to twirl out the Dracula cape and throw Steve Gerber through a plate glass window for missing his deadlines.
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>>83488559
>Purportedly Marvel was going to buy out DC the way DC did to Charlton and Fawcett
No, this was a rumor Jim Shooter made up to intimidate DC, with him calling various DC talents and telling them they had better play ball with him if they didn't want to get replaced. Somehow Byrne got wind of it and believed it and started making an annoyance of himself (as usual).

DC's management found out what was going on and it ended with Marvel's in-house counsel telling Jim he was on a real short leash when it came to "pranks" involving their distinguished competition.

You have to understand that Jim came to New York City to write Legion of Super-Heroes for DC when he was fifteen years old (being 6 feet plus tall, DC management then didn't know how young he was), and it was always in the back of his mind that being Marvel EiC wasn't nearly enough.

Present day Jim's not this delusional, afaik
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bryne made magpie right? he's good in my book for that at least
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>>83489946
I feel it. There are a couple of big Byrne omnis that I want/don't want for this very reason.
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>>83490133
Shooter is the hero current Marvel Comics needs.
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>>83489883
Who all is in the picture? I recognize Shooter, Byrne, Gruenwald and Roger Stern.
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>>83487277
>muh birthing matrix makes Superman American

Generations 1 is great, though.
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>>83489946
His Superman run is a case of trying to have your cake and eat it too.
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>>83485946
He's just an autistic pedophile.
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Too many "gal pals" in his life
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>>83491612
it can't be saved, anon.
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Delet this
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>>83486600
I love his work, think he's a phenomenal writer and artist who usually really 'gets' the characters he works on, expands their premise in smart and interesting ways and elevates them to a near-mythological level symbolically.

But he's still a spectacular, suppurating cunt of a human being.
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>>83486600
>tfw when you like all of his work, but everything you read about him makes you cringe.
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>>83491726
I thought the first one was great and the second one was kinda decent. Third one wasn't good.
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>>83485946
He got old.
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Byrne is /co/ personified
Prove me wrong
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>>83502738
Easy. Byrne has talent.
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>>83494143
Well put.
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>>83485946
trigger discipline
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>>83490186
>No, this was a rumor Jim Shooter made up to intimidate DC, with him calling various DC talents and telling them they had better play ball with him if they didn't want to get replaced. Somehow Byrne got wind of it and believed it and started making an annoyance of himself (as usual).

This is hilarious, and does sound like something Shooter would make up.
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>Just gotten into comics
>Read Sensational She-Hulk
>Damn this Byrne guy is really good
>And he keeps referencing all this iconic shit he worked on
>that's cool he sounds like a cool dude glad he's got his limelight

>find out about his stance on Vision
>and Australian celebrities
>and little girls
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>>83505358
>find out about his stance on Vision
>and Australian celebrities
>and little girls

Uh.... I need context for all of those.
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>>83505393
Byrne gets super autistic about robots having emotions, because as an autist he's an emotionless robot that malfunctions when he recieves data input that does not compute with his emotionally stunted processor. When he wrote Avengers he mind wiped Vision and had him act like BEEB BOOP I AM A ROBOT and broke him up with Wanda because he doesn't support human-robot marriage. Also he's basically a pedo but it's never stopped him being attracted to fully grown buxom women, he just prefers twelve year olds.

No clue what his problem with Australians is though.
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>>83505358
>Australian celebrities

This intrigues me.
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>>83505497
Wait.... he actually said that? Do you have like interviews of him saying that or something?
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>>83505393
He hated the Vision/Scarlet Witch marriage because Vision was "a toaster" so he had the Vision destroyed and rebuilt as a truly emotionless robot which was represented by him being pure white in the first half of the '90s.

He thought Steve Irwin was an asshole for getting himself killed and leaving his kids without a father or something to that effect.

He's written quite a few questionable comics with older men and younger girls i.e. Fantastic Four where a 12-year-old Sue Storm was getting wet the first time she met college student Reed Richards.
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>>83505556
He thought Steve Irwin was an asshole for having the job he did despite having kids and hopes his death was painful/that he's in Hell.
Or something to that effect.

Also he's wholly gone on record that he's attracted to prepubescent girls.
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>>83505556
He kind of had a point with the Irwin thing, it's a bit dickish to make a living working with dangerous animals when you've got a wife and kids. Byrne being Byrne though he had to be a complete dick about it and insulted the man and his family right after he died. Not to mention his wife did the exact same job and his daughter does it too now, so they weren't exactly unprepared for what happened.
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>>83505539
If you can be bothered, just go searching. Byrne has been saying outrageous autistic shit on the net for way more than a decade at this point.

Be warned, he says almost all of it on his board, and he deletes things that start to catch heat that he can't avoid, so a lot of your results will be people at other sites discussing whatever fucking insane thing Byrne just said rather than the original post.

If Fanboy Rampage has archives anywhere that's probably a good place to check.
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>>83491726
He wanted Lara to come to earth (America) while she was pregnant and then die giving birth so Superman would be born an American citizen (so supes like a Mexican anchor baby)

Why was Byrne so hard up on Superman being born an American citizen ? He was adopted by the Kents anyway.
Maybe he wanted to run for president ? (It was mentioned in at least one silver age comic that superman couldn't be president because he was born on krypton)
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>>83505358
The pedo thing seems to be when he made Reed Richards fall in love with little girl sue (not sure how old she was suppose to be in the comic all his kids are drawn the same)

And teen Lana kissing adult Superman which didn't seem THAT bad.
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>>83506169
And >>83489610
And his OMAC series, where the MC has sex with a teenage prostitute heavily implied to be underage
And his Doom Patrol, where they are send back in time to their past bodies, so race car driver Cliff Steele winds up kissing little girl Rita Farr.
It's called pattern recognition Anon.
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>>83506426
Yeah it happens too much for it to be coincedence. Like Claremont and mind control/bondage/domination, this is his fetish.
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Didn't Byrne make that one comic where Superman and Big Barda where mind controlled.into making a sex tape? And this was all part of Darksied's plan?
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>>83506591
Yeah, but it wasn't part of Darkseid's plan, he kicked Sleez out of Apocalypse for being too sleazy. He did watch the Barda porn though and showed it to Scott Free to see the look on his face as he was getting cucked.
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>>83506123
He doesn't like immigrants.
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>>83506169
Nah, it's creepy because he always has it the opposite. It's the little girl Sue who falls in love with adult Reed. It's the little girl Lana who forces adult Superman to kiss her.

For it to be non-predatory in the minds of those folk, they need to believe that they're just helpless before a strong and legitimate attraction.
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>>83506655
but byrne is an immigrant!!!
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>>83506702
ah shit yeah, I remember it now in the Generations series, Teen Lana (Now that I think about it, was she even a teenager then?) Had Future Superman kiss her.
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So, who's crazier-Byrne, Adams, or Claremont?
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>>83506827
he's not brown, so he just counts as an expatriate
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>>83506827
Byrne was so upset because he wasn't actually born in America he went out of his way to make sure Superman was constitutionally allowed to run for president

Reminds me of the stories where they go on about "why did Abin Sur have a spaceship" or "why were all the kryptonians on krypton when it exploded"

Doesn't seem like something the average fan cared about
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>>83506625
>this picture
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>>83507404
>"why did Abin Sur have a spaceship"

One of Green Lantern's most basic powers is unassisted space flight though, it really doesn't make any sense that he was in a spaceship to begin with. It's not something that deserved multiple stories explaining it, but it's still dumb.
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>>83507298
Definitely Adams. He's a Hollow Earth Conspiracy nut, Byrne's just super autistic and Claremont's just a gentrified degenerate. Batman Odyssey is the kind of exquisite madness a genius going completely fucking bonkers could conceive of, Byrne and Claremont are far too centered for that.
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>>83486164
>PG: Your Fantastic Four miniseries? Cat or girlfriend?
>GM: Caring for sick girlfriend
>PG: Did she die?
>GM: No, she recovered. That's why it's only four issues.
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>>83507404
>Reminds me of the stories where they go on about "why did Abin Sur have a spaceship"

Didn't Alan Moore do one of those?
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>>83511935
Yep, it's where Johns got Sodom Yat and Atrocious' planet from.
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>>83505590
>Also he's wholly gone on record that he's attracted to prepubescent girls.
Well, who isn't?
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>>83510687
>He's a Hollow Earth Conspiracy nut,

Please anon, don't libel him. He's an expanding Earth conspiracy nut.
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>>83513203
People who can get within 500 feet of a school.
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>>83510598
Why have a car when you can walk? If I didn't read the explanation I would never have thought that it was weird in the first place
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>>83485987
I know this gets thrown around a lot, but he probably does have some form of autism with the way he acts.
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>>83485996
Was he the guy who made Superboy the gay baby Lex Luthor had with Superman?
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>>83513405
No.
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>>83485946
the society
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>>83513405
Geoff Johns did that.
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>>83513405
That was Geoff Johns little fanboy sperg out. I don't have the images saved, but there's an old issue of the 90s Superboy comic with a letter from young Johns where he suggests that it would be an interesting idea if Luthor turned out to be Superboy's human DNA donor. The editor who answered the letter shot the idea down. But then years later when Johns is actually working for DC and writing Teen Titans, he retconned it into reality himself.
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>>83486600
>poor John
Hey, now. Let's not start pitying him, he's still an enormous cunt.
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>>83506625
The best part of the story was Darkseid admitting that he employs agents on Earth to get porn for him.
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>>83515086
I've been meaning to read Johns but I've been avoiding him because he seems like a DC Bendis. So are his Green lantern and Aquaman 52 books just as bad?
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>>83517769
Vast majority of his work is good. JSA, Action Comics, Flash, Booster Gold, etc. Justice League is the only thing I'd say to stay away from along with maybe his post-Final Crisis Flash stuff I guess (it's not awful in the context of knowing it was setting up for other arcs but not really worth it as stories on their own).
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>>83517769
Really, the main difference between John and Bendis is that John is constantly good to an extant while Bendis is constantly shit. While John writes the occasional streak of shitty books. I'd say John actually cares about his stories and the characters, its just sometimes the fans doesn't like what he does. Bendis doesn't care and just writes shit that will anger everyone.

Between the two, John as a little more artistic integrity than Bendis. Which is already ridiculous to say considering the medium.
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>>83517769
Johns is closer to Slott than Bendis.
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>>83491612
I dunno, I loved Starlin's Cosmic stuff and he constantly fucked with editorial.
Like the time he somehow got the CCA picture edited on one of his covers, and nobody noticed for years.
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>>83507298
Didn't Claremont pay a hooker to dress up like Storm? I mean I'm not saying that's an example of him being crazy but that's still out there.
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>>83520085
That's just a rumor.
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>>83485996
What's funny is that if you go onto his forum, one of the constant complaints he and his disciples have is the "fan turned pro." Byrne is the chief exemplar of this phenomenon and they can't even see it.
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>>83505393
>the vision

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Byrne#The_humanity_of_the_original_Human_Torch
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Byrne#The_humanity_of_the_Vision.2C_an_android_hero_whose_body_was_once_the_original_Human_Torch

>>83505516
>Australian celebrities

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Byrne#On_the_death_of_Steve_Irwin.2C_.22The_Crocodile_Hunter.22
Also follow the footnote to the entire thread at his "forum" it's a real hoot.

>little girls
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Byrne#Pedophilia
Also read any of his stories that feature young girls, 12 years old or so.

For more fun read what he has to say about pretty much anything.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Byrne
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>>83506702
He also keeps mentioning his "young female friends" he has visit Byrne Manor.
As in teens. He tries to make them watch old movies and appreciate the toys and stuff he has spread all over his house like a manchild.
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Guys like Claremont and Byrne get accused of putting their fetishes in their comics, and people love to say "no, it's just the characters or the story". Yet the same themes keep coming up over and over and over again in their work.
It's a recognized pattern. So where there's smoke, there's fire.
You know what's funny though?
George Perez is HUGE into BDSM, and yet there's never a trace of it in his professional work.
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I get that a straw breaks the camel's back but quitting X-Men and breaking up one of the greatest runs in all of comics over this word bubble just cracks me the fuck up. Maximum autisimo
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>>83521809
>the toys and stuff he has spread all over his house like a manchild.
Whenever I seepix of Byrne's house and studio, all I can picture is an older Chris-chan. (if Chris-chan was less retarded and had a million dollars.)
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>>83522582
He also quit She-Hulk because someone wrote a She-Hulk gag in another book where she was sitting by a pile of bent disposable razors as she trying and failing to shave her legs. The idea that Marvel would be willing to publish a book that would make Jen look stupid was enough to make him not want to do She-Hulk for them anymore.
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>>83510598

Ring charge don't last forever, Anon. Lanterns are also supposed to be in space all the time, handling shit in their entire sector. Jordan always spent too much time just squatting on Earth catching bank-robbers and jaywalkers. The Smurfs forced him to go into space with a ship one time, even.
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>>83522110
what is bdsm?
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>>83522590

>no one cares about aquaman
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>>83520750
>What's funny is that if you go onto his forum, one of the constant complaints he and his disciples have is the "fan turned pro."

That's actually a pretty common complaint among a lot of creators who came up during the 1970s. I'm pretty sure it's rooted in their resentment for former Marvel editor-in-chief Roy Thomas. Thomas came from the fanzine scene and he somehow leapfrogged a bunch of more experienced industry pros when he got to the top editorial position at Marvel.

Here's what Larry Hama said about the whole "fan-turned-editor" thing back in 1998:

>The glass ceiling [in DC and Marvel] involves fan-boy geeks turned editor sniffing your butt to see if you are one of them—if you don’t pass muster, forget it.

quote source: http://thegeeksverse.com/2012/08/15/leaving-proof-141-looking-back-on-larry-hamas-original-g-i-joe-run/

Of course, it seems like Marvel and DC have done a total 180 these days. Offhand, it seems to me like more and more editors at the Big Two come from a non-comics/non-fan background. (But that's probably just a reflection of changing reader demographics... fewer kids are growing up reading comics these days, so it stands to reason that more and more of the younger editors getting into the comics business have little or no prior familiarity with comics)
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>>83525481
He had a cool asteroid he would hang out in.

I'm not sure if it comes up anymore in the comics. I'd imagine it would be furnished like a futuristic 1960s space age bachelor pad
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does Byrne even do cons anymore? Would you go visit his booth?

If you had to choose to share an elevator with John Byrne or Rob Liefeld which one would you choose, /co/? The stairs are wet and slippery and are closed off.
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>>83527508
What's wrong with Rob? Aside from his art, isn't he generally nice to his employees and pretty well liked?
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>>83527508
Liefeld.
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>>83525491
This site is for people 18 and over kid.
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>>83527508
Liefeld always comes off as a cool dude who got way too big. Byrne's a far better artist and writer but I'd be talking to them, not reading their books
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>>83520444
Oh boo.
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It's weird how Byrne being the autist he is is apparently good friends with Roger Stern and Walt Simonson, who're some of the chillest creators of their generation.
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>A time machine would come in handy, right about now. Go back about fifteen years and shoot all those people who didn’t listen when I predicted the present state of the industry as the natural outcome of what the industry was doing, or starting to do, then. Basically—we must get the product back into the maximum number of venues, in cheap and accessible packages. Comics are primarily a cyclical fad, and they depend upon new readers being able to spontaneously discover them, on a spinner rack, at the drugstore, or the Mom & Pop, or the grocery story, or the bus depot, etc., etc. As long as new blood has to make a conscious decision to walk into a comic book shop, looking for comics, and as long as the comics we produce continue to be aimed at the wrong audience—witness Gareb Shamus and his insane attempts, of late, to rekindle the speculator mentality!!—the industry has slim hope of recovery, or even survival. (2000)

>This is the best job in the world. I just wish talentless hacks and suits would stop f***ing around with it!!! (2001)

>Face it—for the most part, when you say “comic book professional” what you mean is “unprofessional yahoo who is more concerned with making a name for himself and masturbating all his emotionally retarded fans than paying any attention to the history of the titles, the characters, or the work done by other creators.” (2004)

I hate it when Byrne's right about things. All of his comments from the early-mid 2000's about the direction the industry's headed in have been pretty spot-on.

Incidentally, does anyone have pictures of his house? I want to see this autistic shrine to nostalgia and old toys.
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>>83485946
Anyone have any screengrabs from the forums on his website? I saw one a while back on another thread where he took some toys away from a kid because she said some disparaging things about Aquaman? Anyone have it?

I felt bad after reading it because he's obviously not mentally well.
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>>83529434
>I hate it when Byrne's right about things. All of his comments from the early-mid 2000's about the direction the industry's headed in have been pretty spot-on.

It sounds like it, but realistically, a lot of it isn't that feasible. There's a reason Marvel left the newsstand market a few years ago and why magazines--not comics, magazines--had declining circulation.

>Face it—for the most part, when you say “comic book professional” what you mean is “unprofessional yahoo who is more concerned with making a name for himself and masturbating all his emotionally retarded fans than paying any attention to the history of the titles, the characters, or the work done by other creators.” (2004)

This might well describe some creators today. On the other hand.... It's kind of applicable to Byrne in a way, too.
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>>83529408
IIRC his friends are Roger Stern, Walt Simonson, Howard Mackie, and Frank Miller.
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>>83486600
And who hates him most of all?
John Byrne himself.
He's this weird self-loathing narcissist. I'm pretty sure when he's jacking off, it's basically hatefucking himself.
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>>83529545
>which hardly anyone ever seemed to pick up on!
This always makes me laugh.
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>>83529545
Thanks. Not as good as I remembered it but still the person who wrote it obviously needs to be medicated.
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http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2015/02/22/meta-messages-that-time-john-byrne-nuked-jim-shooters-hometown/
Byrne, always the class act.
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>>83529660
My instinct is to ALWAYS side with Shooter in these stories. Comic book writers are fucking weirdos and druggies and hippies and need someone stern and level-headed around to make sure they don't go off the reservation.

Without that, you get... well, you get what the industry is today.
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>>83529660
Star Brand under Shooter was a pretty decent comic too.
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>>83529545
Fascinating insight into the mind of a madman. Are there any more of these?
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>>83529730
So what you're saying is that Shooter was the Cyclops/Reed Richards of Marvel.
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Post the one where John Byrne disagrees with himself
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>>83486600
I like his comics, and I like reading about his antics, but I probably wouldn't like hanging out with him. That's kind of like liking him, right?
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>>83529795
Yes. Exactly.

Notice how nearly all modern comic book writers HATE Cyclops. They think he's lame and their idea of making him interesting is to turn him into a villain (which admittedly has made for some good stories). They reflexively dislike authority figures and people with self-discipline. Like I said: hippies.
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>>83529875
>Notice how nearly all modern comic book writers HATE Cyclops.
They'd been turning Cyclops into one of the cooler and more popular X-men since Morrison's X-men run...it was only during Schism and AvX he went back to being the X-man nobody liked.
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>>83529545
I hate to say it, but I'm kind of with Byrne on this. He doesn't present the facts well but it's pretty shitty to take your child into someone else's house, into what is clearly an art studio in that house, and then take from a neatly-arranged display of ephemera relating the artist/homeowner's career, something that very well might not be replaceable, and hand it to the child to play with/destroy.

Whichever creator that was needs to learn some boundaries regarding other people's property.
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>>83489883
He's a big guy
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>>83529953
Byrne's right on a lot of stuff. He's just an asshole.
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>>83529953
Didn't seem like he cared about the kid playing with the toy though. He only got autistic about it when her Dad trashed Aquaman.
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Shooter was no saint and he edged out a lot of good talent because of his mainpulative practices he learned from Mort Weisinger.

Christopher Priest, Tom Defalco, Ron Frenz, anyone who worked with him under Valiant Comics...
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>>83530001
Just because you're correct doesn't mean you're right
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>>83530028

>Mort Weisinger

man you wanna talk about an asshole
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>>83530028
Nobody is a saint. Even saints aren't saints. I still think the good he did outweighs the bad, though, and I would absolutely trade current Marvel for Shooter's Marvel.
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>>83529953
The thing is that Byrne can be right on things but then suddenly takes things to extremes.
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>>83530022
Bad communication/matter of interpretation.

Aquaman matters to Byrne in this context is probably the figure, not the character. He's angry that someone would be so glib about destroying his memorabilia collection.

(probably)

I actually have a friend who's a bit like Byrne in this regard, he's one of the most useful people I've ever known in terms of helping me improve as an artist but in anything other than direct face-to-face communication he comes off as extremely brusque and standoffish.

I wonder if Byrne's the same? Is he far more palatable in person than he is in writing?
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>>83505358
Never read about your heroes, anon. They all have secrets you won't like.
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>>83530070
I think Shooter proliferated in the climate of the industry at the time, but I definitely think that lightning wouldn't strike twice.

And if we're talking about suit and tie types wrangling in the hippies, I'd want the ghost of Dick Giordano back over Shooter
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It's jarring how some threads on /co/ are full of pedos and some are full of anti-pedos, but the two never seem to meet. Or maybe they just don't bother arguing with each other any more.
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>>83506481
That is pretty skeevy, though it's a bad guy so it doesn't seem like it's being painted as a normal thing that's okay. Also Lois doesn't look underage there, even though she's called a "pretty little girl" by creepy uncle Lex.
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>>83530216
I guess I idolize Shooter because for me he's the great archetype of the editor. I miss editors. I miss editors who did their fucking jobs and made sure comics make sense. Part of it is that I'm a writer myself and I know from firsthand experience how valuable it is to have a good editor.
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>>83515086
The absolute mad man
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>>83530350
I'll agree to that. I just wish there was someone working with a unified vision for the company line that wasn't a megalomaniac or a paranoid self saboteur
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>>83491612
Shooter is only in his early sixties. I want to imagine one year where he comes back as EiC. Just one, to see what the fuck he does to things. It'd probably be garbage, he's been out of the game for too long, but can you imagine how much it would fuck with things as is?
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>>83522582
I need context here, because what?
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>>83530513
I guarantee he'd fire Bendis. Make an example of him.
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>>83530528
>>83530528

short version is Byrne got mad the text made it seem like Colossus was struggling to rip out the stump instead of doing it easily. It was the final straw and he left Uncanny X-Men
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>>83530528
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2014/03/21/comic-book-legends-revealed-463/2/

It's actually more legitimate than we're making out. He felt his contributions we're being minimized/discarded, so he walked
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>>83506481
>Like Claremont and mind control/bondage/domination, this is his fetish.

Has anyone ever asked him about that shit? I met him once before through a friend for a few minutes and almost asked, but felt that would be rude as shit and quailed but I mean, someone has to have explicitly asked right?
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>>83529821
Holy shit this autism.
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Follow @johnbyrnesays for the highlights of Byrne's pedantry.

His latest tantrum was asking his forum member to list their 5 favorite 70s movies, then getting made at a guy because he commented agreeing with others favorites while adding his own; doubling dipping in Johnny's eyes
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>>83530573
I know he was asked about all the queer subtext with just about every female character

His response was that he wouldn't want to firmly establish any of them, he thought it was more fun if it was up to interpretation
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>>83530573
>>83530690
Wait I forgot that he did say that Kitty Pryde's true love is Rachel Grey.
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>>83530711
Does he not know who Illyana Rasputin is?
Frankly, I've been headcanonning a love triangle between Kitty, Magik, and Peter for a while now.
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>>83530690
>His response was that he wouldn't want to firmly establish any of them, he thought it was more fun if it was up to interpretation

It WAS fun until it started to become obnoxious how regularly it started to happen, same deal with the mind control/slave storylines. Individually, pretty fun, but when every third storyline seems to revolve around that, you need to go to bed, Chris. Seriously.
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>>83527508
Rob's coked up days are far behind him, I don't see anything wrong with sharing an elevator with him.
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>>83529821
Didn't he go full spaz over people calling Superman Supes?
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>>83530901
B-but...Peter is Magik's brother...

...that's l-lewd..!
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>>83533652

And calling Batman 'Bats.' Apparently it's too disrespectful.
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>>83506123
As an immigrant himself he couldn't understand why Superman would have an affection for his place of birth that he had no memory of.
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>>83533846
Congratulations, you somehow managed to look past the post being a response to a proposed Kitty lez relationship with another X-woman, and the canon history of a Kitty/Pete-ship, and somehow discerned my post's true forbidden-luv-triangle intentions.
You have won my perv-respect, my good Anon.
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>>83529545
Absolutely autistical.
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>>83490186
Did people just not sue back then??
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>>83531074
Wasn't the Hellfire Club was based on a real bondage club he frequented?

I mean, how do you tell stories about villains who are SUPPOSED to run a sex dungeon without including the sex dungeon?
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>>83529545
Holy autism Batman
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>>83534438
It's a true fact that during the Victorian age there were dozens of "Hellfire" clubs in England, it was a shorthand for "Brothel".
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>>83534438

The X-men version of the Hellfire Club is heavily inspired by a British TV show called the Avengers (no relations) that featured the Club in one of their perhaps most iconic episodes. In the particular episode, the club is depicted by be run as a sort of gimmicky gentleman's club where the dudes wear period costumes, just like X-men version. What makes the episode so memorable is that it features of the main characters of the show, Emma Peel, getting mindcontrolled by the club and wearing a black BDSM outfit. I imagine you start to see the parallels between Dark Pheonix Saga and the episode?
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>>83517769
Johns is Bendis
they both have usually great artists
both write fanfics
dgaf other runs
don't follow up on plot lines
snaked their way into movie/tv stuff
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>>83521663
Human Torch is awesome
>mfw I might be autistic too
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>>83506625
Just like my japanese doujins.
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>>83529754
it was like one of the first comics I read
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>>83485946
Byrne is my hero
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Once upon a time, when DC wasn't doing so hot sales-wise, they offered to license the books to Marvel. (This often gets misreported as selling DC to Marvel, which is false. They would only be making the books, the characters themselves would still be owned by WB.) It didn't go down because Marvel was being sued at the time for having a monopoly on comics, and swallowing their largest competitor making the monopoly idea even stronger scared the top suits at Marvel from pulling the trigger on the deal.

It never got farther than a few meetings and some proposals written up, but stuff leaks, and it wasn't long before it got around the Marvel office. And then, John Byrne showed up one day, setting on Jim Shooter's desk the cover for the first Marvel issue of Superman. He wasn't offered the job -- there was no job to offer. He wasn't asked to whip up a potential cover. He just did it. He really likes Superman. According to Shooter, Byrne bragged that he'd seen the movie over 1,100 times.

Between Superman: The Movie's release and this story, there were roughly 1,900 days.

He watched the same movie an average of more than once every 2 days for five years.
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