Do the turquoise slippers really work for you guys?
>>83474920
I hate them so much. I am so intensely triggered by them that I have never picked up another issue after the first.
But from what I hear it's not that great anyway so good for me.
>>83474920
Yeah they're cute.
Yes it goes with the web design on the arms and hood
>>83474920
not really
>>83474920
I like it.
Parker's suit's primary colours are red and blue, so this one goes for pink and cyan, aka the feminine version of it, without making it look like pijamas.
I like that they are bright at the tip of something dark. Makes it feel more acrobatic, since you'd only see the shoes making arcs through the air on a darker environment. Much like the tip of a cheetah's tail or a the white tips of those magician's wands. It amplifies the movement and should look graceful in motion. Comics don't translate too well, but if you imagine her in motion it should look great with her flipping and jumping around and kicking.
The hood also kind of works as a replacement for long hair to establish an even more feminine silhouette. I'd go as far as to say that if Spiderman had never existed, this suit would stand a good chance of becoming as iconic as spider-man, almost. It's not as good, but it's a damn great effort.
It's a little garish, but I'm not revolted.
>>83474920
I like them but considering they're shoe soles and not thin fabric idk why they don't give her a hard time when she's climbing with her feet. Maybe the alteration of the flux of inter-atomic forces of whatever she touches is strong enough to go through it? Seems improbable/unnecessary
>>83475274
>pink and cyan
>not black and white
>>83475383
>colours
I mean, sure black and white are colours, but you know what I'm getting at.
>>83475274
>pink and cyan
but that's magenta
>>83475309
stick-em powers work through anything. even power armor.
>>83475471
>>83475383
I'm sorry, it must have been so fucking hard for you to understand what I meant. I'll try harder next time.
>>83474920
No, they're fucking stupid and completely ruin what would be a solid costume.
>>83474920
TAKE A LOOK AT THESE HANDS
>>83474920
They're fucking hideous
>>83474920
works for me
>>83475518
but I'm just pointing out that that's not pink.
Do you not know what cmyk stands for?
>>83474920
No joke, that's a GREAT costume design.
It's a bit of a shame that the writing has not lived up to the looks, but so it goes.
>>83474920
I like it, I think it adds a nice but if color to the costume.
My only complaint/change is that they look like slippers. If they changed the part going over the top of her foot to black and just had a turquoise band running around the side of her foot it'd look better.
>>83475813
Yeah. Just cyan soles would look better than ballet shoes.
>>83475495
Very cool, didn't know that
>>83475789
someone needs to sit Marvel down and tell them that decompressed storytelling does not work for fledgling heroes.
you wanna get people hooked you gotta wow them with a new, interesting villain every issue and leave the ongoing drama to the B plot.
especially in an elseworlds. you have Kingpin Matt Murdock and Harry, Goblin of SHIELD but there's nothing to get excited about because they still haven't done anything entertaining. just go balls to the wall.
>>83475871
>someone needs to sit Marvel down and tell them that decompressed storytelling does not work for fledgling heroes.
THIS
If you want a fantastic example of how to write a brand-new superhuman, check out Worm.
https://parahumans.wordpress.com/
The guy who wrote that knocked it out of the flippin' park.
It's not a comic, but goddamn, it should be. I'd buy the fuck out of a good comic adaptation.
Remember: The story is the most important part. Pretty artwork is important too, but without a story, it won't last.
>>83474920
If the bicep area of the arms were Turquoise along with the inside of the hood and maybe eye outline than they would.
If the slippers were simply maroon like the inside of the hood and such that would also work.
Further into her costume the hood looks cool, but would limit ones field of vision all the damn time and only serve to be occasionally and literally hoodwinked.
>>83476018
>Further into her costume the hood looks cool, but would limit ones field of vision all the damn time and only serve to be occasionally and literally hoodwinked.
Yeah, but this way it looks more feminine without giving her huge tits and hips, since spidey isn't too muscley either. You can just bullshit explain it away with the spidey sense.
>>83476018
And that's why she usually has the hood down during fights.
>>83475871
>leave the ongoing drama to the B plot.
marvel wants girls and faggots, which means that the drama needs to be the A plot.
how will tweens connect with the characters if the characters don't also think that having a pimple is the literal end of the world?
>>83476018
No. People who say this have no fucking idea how to design a character or any concept of dynamic colour relationships.
The next best thing to what we have now would be solid black feet.
Some pics
>>83474920
Aren't they rubber soles?
>>83474920
Gwen's costume is great. My only gripe is that the hood makes literally no sense and is a huge liability in terms of peripheral vision, hearing, aerodynamism and potential snagging, but the resulting silhouette is cool enough that I don't care.
It's just a shame her book's so mediocre.
>>83476006
Worm was fun despite its flaws, but you can't possibly think it's an example of good compressed storytelling. It was three times longer than War And Peace, for god's sake.
I'd like the shoe color to be toned down a bit, make them look less glow in the dark, I mean the color on the rest of her doesn't have that same neon look to it. I'd also rather make them look less like clogs or something that she sleeps on over the suit.
>>83475274
What this guy said.
>>83474920
I don't like a single thing about that outfit.
The hood is stupid. The motif usage is weak. The slippers are absurdly loud. Overal looks like Candlejack cosplaying as a s
>>83476747
>>83476747
Here, have it in better quality.
>>83476875
so wait.
she actually calls herself spider-gwen?
what the fuck?
Best spidey costume to date, imo. Her flats would look better white, but they don't look bad as they are.
I didn't think her book was that bad either.
>>83476960
Only when she's teamed up with other Spider-Women.
>>83476960
She calls herself Spider-Woman in her own world and stories, but started using Spider-Gwen in multiversal crossover stuff.
>>83476960
Only because at that moment she is teamed up with Silk and 616 Spider-Woman, who both know her real name, and she's fighting a villain that also knows her real name. All of them were calling each other by their first names throughout the book, and also it's just a nod to 90's comics so.
>>83474920
I liked the costume at first but the novelty has worn off. A good costume can only carry an uninteresting character so far.
>>83474920
If you want my opinion, Those arms are too long.
>>83476875
So she is Gwen Poole?
>>83476868
If you don't like this you should probably stop reading cape comics, assuming you haven't already.
>>83476018
>>83475833
The problem with the soles is that the artists would probably forget about it half the time. At least this way they make sure it's there.
>>83476856
>shit opinions
>doesn't even finish posts properly
A true retard. Seriously what kind of a loser compares Spider-G to Candlejack, as if everyone with a hood would like the same character, that's absolu
there is only one okay length for gloves and boots, and that is close-to-but-not-quite-touching the knee/elbow. how close is up to you, but further than halfway along the forearm/shin
girls can get away with gloves and boots that go past the knee/elbow but it leaves them looking permanently waiflike so this shouldn't be trifled with if they're the tough brawly type.
this is what separates superhero costumes from dumbshit normal clothes that i hate so goddamn much but it's all you can wear because it's all they sell in clothes stores.
>>83474920
Love the contrast
>>83474920
Worst part of the costume.
Also bad when you have to remember that the wall clinging ability is basically like being a human magnet and Peter doesn't wear thick soles on his feet because then he wouldn't stick so seeing the blue chucks on Spider-Gwen triggers me.
>>83479581
Her soles aren't necessarily any more think than ballet shoes. That would still work. Hasn't spidey walked on walls with regular shoes, or am I misremembering?
>>83479581
>Peter doesn't wear thick soles on his feet because then he wouldn't stick
that's not true at all.
Darlene is best spider girl
from a distance and at first glance, they can be mistaken for cyan crocs.
>>83474920
I'd literally trade the suit in for a retcon of Peter's death and entire character in her universe.
>>83476018
...Is that Miley Cyrus?
I've never read a Spider-Gwen comic, but I know her basic plot - different dimension, she gets power, peter dies instead, etc-
Seems like a cool concept. Are all her villains also female versions? Is her comic worth reading?
>>83481095
>Are all her villains also female versions?
She hasn't had one yet from what I remember. But hey Cap is a black woman. So is Falcon.
>Is her comic worth reading?
Only if you're a Spider/Gwen guy. Most of it is teen angst.
>>83481711
What's the fuck is the point of having an "elsesworlds" "peter" if you're not gonna explore "his" "elseworlds" gallery?
Fuck modern Marvel comics, man, thank god they have the movies.
>>83481963
What? I never said his rogues gallery isn't being explored, just that they're not females.
>>83481095
Peter becomes the Lizard and Gwen kills him without realizing it's him.
>>83482165
>She hasn't had one yet from what I remember.
I read that as a villain, not as a female villain.
Disregard that then. Still sounds kind of disappointing.
>>83482287
That does sound better. Maybe I'll pick it up.
>>83475274
This anon gets it.
Is the hood on any male costumes? It's by far my favorite design choice.
>>83483021
Only when they are trying to be edgy.
Ben Reilly comes to mind, and that wasn't great.
It's not really practical, but she pulls it down to fight.
>>83474920
nah.
needs to be barefoot.
>>83474996
kek
>>83474920
I like them
Being a wall crawler she can't have big boots or anything.
Most of the time spiderman is drawn it looks like he has thin soles sewn on the bottom of his spandex tights.
Which seems super flimsy.
This seems like a good middle ground.
They are usually less blobby looking than OPs pic.
>>83484271
This. Not even a fetishist, it just makes the most sense. How the fuck does Peter's boot shit work? Even the gloves are a little odd.
>>83484872
>How the fuck does Peter's boot shit work?
He doesn't literally have the powers of a spider, in a sense. He has 60's "radioactive" powers: strength, can create a field of attraction with his fingers/toes and ha some enhanced reflexes/precog.
He doesn't have filaments in his fingers like the first movie showed, he has same sort of atomic magnets of sorts, that work through the glove. Same for his feet.
He just went for the spider-theme because a spider bit him and he managed to create the webs.
A similarly radioactive Ant could've bitten him and he'd get most of the same powers, and the writers would not have made him create the web shooters.
>>83474920
It works for me. My only problem is the mask when the hood is off. It just looks off and a little wrong to me.
>>83477078
No.
I think it works. 11/10 would smash Spider-Gwen
>>83479903
It is. Well used to be. Bagley used to draw him taking off his shoes whenever he used to stick to stuff outside of costume in the 90s.
>>83484872
His booties and gloves are thin. Like those fancy little white gloves waiters wear and socks
>>83478134
haha oh man.
>>83474920
Kinda clashes to me. I don't like them at all
>>83484872
The power is supernatural and psychic in nature, same as his Spider-Sense. It has nothing to do with how thick his shoes or gloves are.
>>83487575
She is acting like Gwen Poole.
>>83487747
That's the best pic you had?
>>83485515
Stop saying this. He necessarily has the powers of a spider. He sticks to walls, has the proportional strength of a spider and has spider-sense (a made up thing based on how fast spiders can react to a person trying to swat them).
>>83491858
Right, but there's no indication that he needs contact with the wall like in the movie, is my point.
They can just be explained as magnets for the autists that think it's fundamental for the movie to have an explanation as to why it works through the cloth.
>>83484872
I remember reading a Guide to the Marvel Universe years ago, and they said the wall-crawling was a result of Van der Waals forces. Or have they changed that?
>>83474920
yup
>>83474920
I've never thought of them as slippers, I thought they were like Converse. And I was cool with them.
>>83476573
>Worm was fun despite its flaws, but you can't possibly think it's an example of good compressed storytelling. It was three times longer than War And Peace, for god's sake.
Heh, yes, it's really long, but compare that length to HOW MUCH STUFF marvel or DC has put out.
And Worm told a tale every bit as big and grand as either of those two company's.
So, yes, for this genre, Worm is a solidly compact bit of work. And admit it, it started out with Taylor as a sad, geeky, bullied high school student, and it ended up with her....
Well, no spoilers, but if you read it, you know where it ended up.
The Big Two wish they had a story of that scope and grandeur.
>>83491701
Ooooooh, really like that one.
>>83491724
<Batgirl figurine on her backpack
Dang, now I'm sad she's not a Cassandra fan.
>Skintight suit
>full face mask/cowl, covering mouth
>non-offensive color scheme
>>83494049
>>>83484872
>I remember reading a Guide to the Marvel Universe years ago, and they said the wall-crawling was a result of Van der Waals forces. Or have they changed that?
When Spiderman was first created, they had no idea what Van Der Waals forces even were.
He used atomic radiation sticky power. Don't need no fucking science to explain atomic radiation powers, son.
>>83494049
stick-em powers and spider sense and spider strength are 'it just works' since JMS.
Spider-Gwen's design is a miracle of the Spider-verse.
Spider Gwen is probably one of the better spiderman related designs in a while.
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/prk6MTY.png "latest[1].png")
>>83498460
I think Silk looks really good if you can get passed the fact that half her face is uncovered.
Seriously how has no one figured out who she is?
>>83476126
>You can just bullshit explain it away with the spidey sense.
This. Spidey and other similarly powered heroes are the only melee fighter heroes who can really justify having a hood. Anyone without super senses and a danger warning superpower could be snuck up on and have the hood used against them regularly, but a Spider-Person would already have their spider sense telling them more than their peripheral vision allows them anyway.
>>83496411
They were designed to look like Chucks. Pic related.
>>83498707
new yorkers can't tell one gook from another on the best of days
>>83474920
They definitely look weird. From the pic I can't tell if they're the exact shade of blue as the lining of the web pattern thing on the red of the upper costume, inside the hood and on her arms. If it is, then it's okay. If it isn't, then it sucks.
I love that good though, it looks so cool.
>>83499231
Yeah, the slippers and webbing are the same color.
>>83475871
As long as everyone's treating every new character and series like a movie or TV pitch I don't think we're ever gonna get away from decompressed storytelling.
>>83498707
The half mask makes Silk's costume for me.
I love half masks.
>>83474920
They work
They're also for rock climbing/parkour or something from what I'm told which is why they were part of the design to begin with. They work just fine with it, but admittedly they threw me off at first.
>>83475596
You don't have to mention it.
No thanks.
>>83491858
>a made up thing based on how fast spiders can react to a person trying to swat them
No, it's from knowing when something hit their web.
>>83475408
>I mean, sure black and white are colours
no, they're not. jfc. I gotta get off this damn board.
also to stay on topic. No she looks like she's wearing a vaguely spider themed onesie with old asian lady slippers on. except the slippers are some garish shade of neon blue designed to make it easy to spot her because the black/white of her body will not stand out against night shots.
But hey we can just throw blue swooshes in to show the movement of her feet that way we can pass the job of motion off the penciller to the colourist!
I dont get why they didn't just make them white and make them flat like every other spiders shoes and instead make them look like slippers. Were they avoiding foot fetishists or something?
![Silk-1-Stacey-Lee-Variant[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/iuLH4t8.jpg "Silk-1-Stacey-Lee-Variant[1].jpg")
>>83498707
>>83498213
>Don't need no fucking science to explain atomic radiation powers, son.
Yeah, i know, man. It just stuck out at the time I read it. Believe me, I readily accept that a comic character can channel punches from the Punch dimension thru his eyes--I can accept "It just works like that" as an explanation.
Just reading that explanation as a kid and not understanding it until I got to high school physics was kinda cool to my youthful self. Comics: teaching kids weird science since 1938.
>>83474920
Not really, but like the purple bat-gloves or white hal-gloves, I respect it.
>>83501502
>I dont get why they didn't just make them white and make them flat like every other spiders shoes and instead make them look like slippers.
If you've seen her comic her universe is drawn with a lot of neon colors, the shoes very well fit the theme.
>>83491858
>a made up thing based on how fast spiders can react to a person trying to swat them
Flies, Anon, not spiders. In fact I think there was an interview in which Stan Lee said something to that very effect about flies but that the motif was too deterring.
>>83474920
Where did Spider-Gwen get her costume from? Did she make it herself or something?
I know Peter learned to sew because he's poor as shit and his aunt believes in making and mending, and in some versions he got his "full" original costume from the wrestling company he debuted with.
Where did Gwen get hers?
>>83504219
>If you've seen her comic her universe is drawn with a lot of neon colors, the shoes very well fit the theme.
>Posts a pic where the blue is very muted and they dont look neon at all.
>>83504825
I can't remember if they've touched on that, but I would assume she made it herself.
>>83474920
Nice freakishly long arms.
>>83506413
It seems pretty elaborate for that, though.
I mean, when you get down to it Peter's original costume was a blue lycra leggings stolen from a dance class, plus a pair of red gloves and slippers and a red shirt. The lenses were handwaved as being "borrowed" from the university theatre, so silk-screening the webs must have been the hardest part. In other versions he's taking a full blue/red spandex bodysuit or whatever and making some modifications.
Hell, in most other continuities Pete doesn't even do that - he has some ramshackle blue-and-red bullshit and then gets his "full" costume made for him by the wrestling/promotional company he first signed up with.
Gwen's costume is much more elaborate, and she doesn't have any of Peter's DIY skills. In this continuity she's the spoiled musician daughter of a police chief - where the hell would she have learned to sew or silkscreen or retailor clothes?
>>83474920
Why did Gwen decide to become Spider-Gwen?
I mean, we know why Peter did - he's poor as shit and he saw the "wrestle 4 big dosh" sign, so he figured he could leverage his powers into marketability. Hell, his first run-in with the Fantastic Four was him trying to join up so he could get in one what he assumed was sweet brand merchandising money.
Gwen, though... she doesn't. She has no motivation to do any of the things she does - which apparently involves drumming upside down on a talk show in full costume - before her Peter goes all reptilian school shooter.
Forget how she made her costume - /why/ did she make it? What for?
>>83474920
It's not so much the slippers themselves as the lack of other matching parts.
If the arms and hands had the same color order as the legs and feet, possibly moving the magenta with web pattern to the midriff, it would be fine.
If there was a cyan web pattern on all the black areas instead of the magenta areas, it would be fine.
If the head was black with cyan eye outlines, it would be fine.
But I don't see any other cyan touching black on that suit, so it looks like the upper and lower halves of it weren't designed to go together.
This is the same problem I have with Wonder Woman's classic costume.
One part red+gold, one part blue+white, one part red+white. It would've looked more coherent to have only red+gold and blue+white.
>>83498707
People got to know she isn't white with those slanty eyes of hers.
Kind of funny how both Dikto and Romita drew Gwen as a knockout prom queen and now we have Spider-Gwen who is some sort of quirky anti-establishment chick. It's such a weird-ass character to latch onto as a social misfit with angst.
>>83498828
She might as well not wear a mask at allor anything else while we're at it
>>83498801
>I just noticed the spider on the costume
HOLY FUCK
Why do they draw her so flat in the actual comics? Gwen is a titty monster.
>>83474920
Yup
>>83475041
This.
>>83474920
I wonder if she smells in there
Wasn't her costume designed by Janet Van Dyne of earth 65?
>>83481095
>Are all her villains also female versions?
no, Rhino is still a guy, Daredevil is Kingpin's attorney and de-facto Kingpin, Cap is a woman but Falcon is a shota, Lizard was Peter and Octavius is still Octopus(now with a live octopus as additional arms)
Actually, except Cap I don't remember anybody else being gender-swapped?
Black Cat is female, but a French Negress
Silk should have still been semi barefoot in her new costume
>>83512522
I don't understand how she can just weave her new costume from her silk when her last costume looks like actual spider person silk.
>>83477337
this is awesome.
>>83480993
It's Kerraldine, her tumblr is here http://drquinzel.tumblr.com/archive
She went a bit too tumblr a year or two ago and now she's demi this and pan that.
Shame really, she used to be fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFpKDrriUUU
>>83507281
>This is the same problem I have with Wonder Woman's classic costume.
annnnd, here's the point when I knew you are a pretentious idiot and quit reading.
i regret it took me that long
Does Spider-Gwen where a bra?
>>83474920
hey where can i start reading about silk and spiderman
apparently they fuck a lot
i want the whole story
i need to read this shit
should i renew my marvel unlimited or what
>>83474920
Well what about Spider-Piggy?
>>83512837
Anonymous that is disgusting.
>>83512837
you know the name of the artist who drew that?
>>83474920
she looks badass
>>83512837
Can't unsee
>>83512837
>swollen goodies
Not sure how I feel...
