Good evening owls of /co/,
we 11 part crossover now
>Kupperberg
Uh-oh
>>83456966
I enjoy seeing all the tweets of CW2 not selling as well as hoped
>>83456966
>there's a real place on Earth where GA Rebirth outsells CW2
>>83435953
>>83457009
same
I know the tweets mean pretty much nothing but I enjoy it anyway
>>83456966
Hello Storyteller.
Are you okay? You went kinda loopy on us last night.
>>83456966
How are we collectively shitting ourselves in Comics World today?
>>83457014
sad that it will still do well due to variants and not actual market demand
>>83457035
>Brevoort: In terms of Rhodey, we were not unaware that killing Rhodey meant we’d have a story where an African American character dies, which is something that happens prevalently in our medium. That’s a conversation that we had. In our particular retreat where we talked about this, Ta’Nehisi Coates was in the retreat for the first time. He heard all of this, and afterwards, he sent a long missive to myself and Axel, which we forwarded to Brian and we all spoke about, in terms of what he thought the reaction would be and what the ramifications would be, that we had to consider that from all sides. And we have.
>>83457032
I didn't go buy any vodka :(
>>83457035
Negative reviews of CW2 are finally coming out. I'm happy.
Sucks that Shulkie's death is barely a footnote for most, but it's technically not confirmed.
Also, previews keep making like Wanda is trying to sex Billy.I like it
>>83457035
more of the usual
I have seen disappointingly few people upset about Rhodey and Shulkie though. people are still too mad about Captain Hydra to get mad at those yet I guess
>>83457035
usual. lotta yelling about fanfic. Marvel not listening to TNC got me rolling.
>>83457061
>all those jokes about Coates being incredibly out of place at the Marvel writers meeting were true
>>83457061
>which is something that happens prevalently
I call bullshit. Lots of people die in comics all the time regardless of race/gender/what have you. Cheap drama is pretty colorblind.
>>83457061
"He told us 'this is fucking stupid' and we ignored it"?
>>83457091
I've started to see fussing about Rhodey and Shulkie, and the debate of whether 'fridging' is applicable. I'm wavering because I like a tight definition, but it DOES seem Rhodey being ded is mainly "make Tony feel bad", but that's also the plot in and of itself, soo
>>83457091
>>83457098
Nobody cares about garbage characters like War Hammer and She-Hulk
>>83457097
>thirsty Wally fans get it and cause it to go into a fourth printing
>>83457111
How do you not listen to TNC? He's famous for broadly recognized as being good at his job.
>>83457121
Never heard of the "black guy dies first" trope?
>>83457042
Ryan Higgins @RyanHigginsRyan 4 hours ago
>Just sold out of the main cover of Batman Rebirth #1, more than double what we've sold of Civil War 2 #1, all covers.
>the reason Rhodey is getting a real funeral is because of Coates
>>83457159
That's mostly movies. Not as much of a thing in comics.
>>83457097
So... much... Photoshop...
>>83457163
This guy's shop is in California, apparently at least one area code there has taste.
>>83457162
Walker, definitely
heey, it's Valentina Vostok, who Rucka would use briefly in Checkmate
>>83457121
No it's not, really. A-listers skew pretty white, and the B-listers and C-listers that get killed off for cheap drama are more likely to be not white.
>>83457162
David Walker, I don't think Coates will write another comic after BP, at least not at Marvel.
>>83457162
Walker
>>83457266
I have no choice but to imagine you're a 7'4" Russian
>>83457252
I'm cracking up that his first summit was apparently the one where they decided to kill a black guy first so he sent Brevoort and Alonso and Bendis an email which they apparently ignored
>>83457128
Here's your (You)
>>83457252
Bless his heart, TNC has discovered that Comics Are Hard. And he can afford to only take gigs he really wants to, and I suspect he'll only be offered stuff where they want that imprimatur of 'authenticity'.
>>83457163
What, with quality variants like this? >>83437839
>>83457306
Fucking Land
>>83457301
ho shit it's my one true home upon this earth
>>83457167
So is it She-Hulk that's getting buried in a tarp?
>>83457317
The ass-pose woman doesn't even have booty, classic Land.
>>83457301
I wonder if he signed to do anything after 12 issues of Black Panther.
>>83457330
awkward double grave with Bruce.
>>83457009
Civil War 2 started and ended for me at She-Hulk casually jumping onto a helicarrier in a pair of mirror shades.
>>83457350
How does it happen? Like, he can trace hips can't he? Is it some strange form of agnosia?
>>83457328
what's this about Clint I hear?
>>83457136
it's genius really
>>83457087
Not that anon but that's not really answering the question, huh?
>>83457412
As I said when I first read that issue, it's a lot funnier when you remember there's a lot of thick clouds under the Helicarrier, so she probably missed and had to try again a few times.
I really hate the attitude of current generation writers that somehow they become popular enough, they're above writing capeshit. Hickman's shitpost on Twitter really pissed me off.
>>83457420
Remember that art tutorial where he literally traces a picture of a model but deliberately narrows her hips? Dude just hates booty I guess
>>83457392
The Chulk preview suggests Bruce is just walking around somewhere. So...more likely that Amadeus would join her in green motorboat heaven.
>>83457442
>>83457442
There's a rumor going around that he's going to kill a Hulk-less Bruce Banner, because Bendis can't do an event without shitting on Hawkeye.
>>83457442
People are guessing he's gonna kill Bruce Banner
>Lemire's book was a failure compared to Fraction's
>Marvel basically saying Kate is gonna get a solo
>we know a hero kills a hero
>he's on Carol's side
>Bendis doesn't care about him
>>83457467
I forgot Cho was a Hulk.Is Hawkeye gonna kill a kid?
>>83457471
>>83457442
dude perched on a fucking lampost, budda
>>83457460
Which shitpost on twitter?
>>83457481
>>83457488
oh geez, does that mean skaar's coming back to earth?
>>83457481
>>83457488
jesus on a fucking pogo stick
Also, why is Clint the "let's rehab villains" on the PUNISH FUTURE CRIME side?
I saw that Thunderbolts art and I think I've nope.jpg'd out.
>>83457488
But how will it be Scarlet Witch's fault?
>>83457460
>Hickman's shitpost on Twitter
Which one?
>>83457488
what if Bruce and Clint kill each other
can Bendis possibly give Clint a worse death than Disassembled?
>>83457442
Just a rumor but
>Ulysses sees a vision about Hulk fucking up stuff
>Carol's side is told about it
>not everyone is aware that Cho is Hulk
>Clint kills Bruce before he becomes Hulk and fucks up stuff
screencap this anon
You know Bendis will do this
>>83457540
look at that "fuck this shit I'm done" walk
>>83457540
>I saw that Thunderbolts art and I think I've nope.jpg'd out.
No 3 issue rule? You were the one holding out for Zub's understanding of the characters. I mean, we read all that 90s art already, it's not a dealbreaker for me.
>>83457545
Wanda's titty game makes Billy think he's turning ungay, so he sexually molests Clint, traumatizing him into a murder-spree?
>>83457540
Because nobody behind Civil War cares about Hawkeye or reads comics more than 10 years old.
>>83457540
>Also, why is Clint the "let's rehab villains" on the PUNISH FUTURE CRIME side?
because Bendis doesn't care about him.
Carol's side is like 90% characters he doesn't care about.
>>83457574
so what I'm getting from all this is that Bendis is writing unintentional black comedy
>>83457488
I was thinking I would probably like Civil War 2 a lot better if it was specifically the Ultimates who decided on stopping future crime and the book was them vs. everyone else.
>>83457592
90s art is acceptable when it is actually from the 90s, less so in 2016 with that awful coloring
>>83457630
I don't think it's unintentional.
>>83457630
Yeah. That's actually really accurate.
>>83457460
To be fair once you've done it long enough it must be really dreary to read new superhero comics, let alone write them. It's like sitcom writers often don't enjoy watching sitcoms. They've done the formula so many times, they know every story beat in advance.
Whether creator-owned comics are such hot shit, I don't know; I think the current Image generation is a bit weak on characters because they don't have multiple writers' perspectives fleshing them out. But I don't really blame the writers for being over it.
>>83457540
>Also, why is Clint the "let's rehab villains" on the PUNISH FUTURE CRIME side?
Well, I can actually kinda see it. If he wants to reform villains, by working for Carol he can get those people some therapy to weed out those villainous tendencies before they have a chance to manifest.
>I saw that Thunderbolts art and I think I've nope.jpg'd out.
Sad how they gave the T-Bolts such a big push, only to have terrible art in the ongoing.
>>83457592
I'm trying, but the more I look at it the more I realized I'm deluding myself that it'll ever be okay
>>83457654
It's totally unintentional, come on. Bendis has the self-awareness of a plum.
>>83457521
>>83457552
https://twitter.com/JHickman/status/738411328327520256
https://twitter.com/JHickman/status/738413431326412800
https://twitter.com/JHickman/status/738415647240114176I'll admit third one is funny.
I just don't understand holier than thou attitude. Rucka gave up his creator owned because of his Wondy passion project. Morrison is still writing for DC after all these years because he loves the characters.
>>83457675
Ha, that's pretty brutal! I'm gonna give it 3 issues anyway.
>>83457675
It's not like cheap vodka, where there really IS a hill of "I'm drunk enough I can't tell what shit this is" you can get over the top of.
>>83457674how long until they bribe bubu into coming back and rescuing the series
>>83457697
I kind of think you're wrong and he's wrong. There's nothing wrong with a writer wanting to not write superhero comics, but right now in the American industry to reach certain segments of the market you have to write cape stuff before you can write other stuff (and usually you have to write other stuff before you write cape stuff...)
I dislike the Image wanking because a lot of Image does nothing for me, but I understand why so many creators love it. I just wish... they actually came out with more imaginative books, I guess.
But I'm not much of a Hickman fan either, so if he wants to stay out of it that's fine by me.
my answer is Martin Sheen
>>83457676
Killing Hawkeye is 100% a joke at this point.
>>83457697
Remender basically said Black Science is the F4 he never got to write
>>83457771
same Khouri
>>83457671
Repetitive books is a slightly different problem from too many superhero comics IMO.
>>83457775
>>83457771
I actually really hate bassy voices, I'd pick Derryberry because reasons.
>>83457775
Black Science doesn't do much for me desu. Shit I'd probably like it better if it was the F4, there'd be more to work with.
>>83457767
I think I have had enough of Hickman's preferred tics and style for now, because if you read enough you really see the recycling
>>83457671
I understand it but expecting big 2 model to change and acting as if you're above capeshit just pisses me off. Capeshit makes 90% of these writers. Then again not everyone is as passionate about big 2 and why would you be when in the end it's about paycheck and paycheck is bigger at Image than Marlel or Damage Control.
>>83457697
Morrison is one of very few writers who can write superheroes for a long time without burning out, though. It helps that a lot of his work gets to stand on its own unconnected to events.
Brubaker recently said in his newsletter that he stopped writing superheroes because the slog of events and reboots and shocking twists wore him out.
Plus if you write superheroes for long enough eventually you will run out of characters you write well. Brubaker really connected with Captain America. But he was not a good fit on X-Men.
>>83457767
>I just wish... they actually came out with more imaginative books, I guess.
Yeah, there's barely anything at Image that actually grabs my attention. So much of it just looks completely bland.
>>83457834
this comic is not very exciting
>>83457771
Based Khouri
>>83457873
A lot of it has similar elements that mash-up with similar characters. Not all, definitely, but Image fatigue is for sure a thing.
The next Image book I buy will probably be the K6BD release.
>>83457767
>I just wish... they actually came out with more imaginative books, I guess.
has Image stopped being like 50% sci fi yet
>>83457844
Agreed.
>>83457875
Yeah, it's kind of...there.
>>83457875
>>83457844
Bru won't even talk about Rise and Fall of the Shi'ar Empire and I don't blame him
>>83457771
Claudia Black, maybe.
>>83457911
What was that? An x-men arc that didn't pan out?
>>83456966
This really didn't need to be eleven parts.
>>83457911
... Am I the only one who liked War of Kings?
>>83457708
Cheap vodka is a bad time. I always get a nightmare hangover from the bargain stuff - wake up feeling like my skeleton is about to step out of my skin.
>>83457115
>All the jokes here were posted by Coates himself
>>83457911
so many Image pitches are Big Two with the serial numbers filed off
>>83457935
it's all that stuff with Vulcan, the Lost Summers Brother
>>83457943
I liked some of War of Kings; Hickman's wrecking of that Inhuman status quo sucked
>>83457943
That was DnA wasn't it? I remember liking it
>>83457844
Even on Cap you could tell Bru was running out of steam.
>>83457975
We need to save him, anons
>>83457767
>I just wish... they actually came out with more imaginative books, I guess.Yeah, I wish all Jojo's Bizarre Adventure fans would get rounded up and shot.
Life is kind of unfair that way, sadly.
>>83457952
you haven't had a hangover until your hair has ached
>>83457943
>>83457977
I tolerate the X-Men Vulcan stuff only because I got into it after it was over, knowing it was all a prequel to War of Kings.
>>83457771
Khouri is literally me
>>83457993
legit praying he doesn't get duffie'd
>>83457999
I just used to shake off booze until a couple of years ago, then I really started to get it bad.
>>83457999
right, now shit should pick up
>>83457995
Love you too.
>>83458036
goddamn, Ben
>>83458051
>literal chess set
yfw Despro
>>83458051
>>83457995
JJBA has qualities that push it beyond the similar books it sits with. Kind of like Prison School that way actually.
The visible influences Araki displays are really interesting, especially how his male characters are inspired by gay fetish art.
>>83458084
THANK GOD DOG, OSTRANDER'S BACK
>>83458051
dat bulge
>>83458023
L O N D O N
>>83458099
not for good, sorry
>>83458087
dude/not dude is always a fun Jojo game to play
>>83458081
I love chess themes
>>83458084
I love this cover too
>>83458087
Araki's a bit more well-traveled than your average mangaka (not that I take that lightly, you have to be successful to afford to get out of the grind), and it shows.
>>83458122
I'm still shocked Narancia was a boy.
>>83458122
ho shit, Snyder?
You might remember him as Prester John in Mage
>>83458122
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>>83458122
It only works if you show people women, but I don't mind
>>83458157
Okay, just Narancia. And maybe Booch if you only show a headshot.
Is there any hope for HJAGLC?
>>83458087
I don't care. I hate Jojo fans, and I want them to go away.
>>83458160
feel free to TRY to kill Eiling, no one's managed yet...
>>83457807
Sure, but some genres really are more formulaic than others. Doesn't make them bad but it means people burn out on them.
It's like Conan Doyle tried to kill off Sherlock Holmes.
>>83457993
We should all write him get well cards.
>>83458187
I'm expecting more of the same considering Venditti is still on the bookso in short, no
>>83458188
Too bad.
>>83458187
Handjobs Almost Give Lesbians Comas?
>>83458197
>>83457875
It feels weird that they had an opera but didn't show it, especially because they could have brought in a chess/checkmate/plotting theme there. Why have the opera house? Just to ground it in a location?
>>83458253
I thought it was just to show how 'hip' the dude was, hating opera but loving the Talking Heads.
>>83458234
That reminds me, are we confirmed for HCs of Part 3? I guess if Japan isn't doing it, we wouldn't get any, but I haven't looked.
>>83458187
That is the clunkiest title of all time
Worse than Batman and the Outsiders
>>83458201
I think at its core the idea of a superhero is a really open concept. It's like the idea of magical powers, or really any fantastical element. So there's a lot that can extend to.
Even writing in the shared DC or Marvel universe has brought us stuff like Dial H or Omega Men. Blame editorial for this sameness rather than writers, probably (and the people buying).
>>83458253
I think so. Also, someone barely scouted it out, because the inside of the Met is infamously not a very good place to have a large gala like that, even if you move the restaurant tables out of the way. But it's a beautiful and striking building.
Might be something interesting here
http://www.newsarama.com/29599-dc-s-didio-lee-on-whether-rebirth-was-a-repudiation-or-not-of-watchmen-and-the-new-52.html
>>83458311
There was an issue of something with Daken and Osborn going to the opera where the penciller hadn't done *any* research at how the interior of the Met looks for people sitting in boxes, or the writer on what was in possible repertory
yeah, I know, I know
>>83458241
...Anon. I'm gonna need you to go ahead and stop saying things.
>>83458373
>Daken and Osborn going to the opera
This sounds really great and I bet it wasn't actually at all.
>>83458394 (You)
>>83458301
We are. I preordered the first one on Amazon.
>>83458373
the names on the Force of July bust me the fuck up
Also, if you don't love Count Vertigo yet, you will
>>83458311
I like that first panel a lot.
>>83457540
>I saw that Thunderbolts art and I think I've nope.jpg'd out.
Marvel seems to change artists up enough that I'm hoping it doesn't take too long here for it to happen
>>83458428
>>83458459
that reminds me, who's filling in for Stelfreeze?
>>83458421
Hot damn, I'm on it.
The redraws on the covers are pretty damn cute, even though I'm not fond of nuCaesar. There's just something about OG's hair and cheeks that he's not putting back in.
>>83458495
So Spencer talked in a podcast about how he's intentionally writing Zemo as going rather backwards in his development, seeing him as having been on a downward spiral since Bucky became Cap. He's makes it sound like he's going SOMEWHERE with it, and that Helmut will have a moment where he looks at himself and asks "what the fuck am I doing?"
>>83458420
Yeah, you're just further proving why you should stop saying things.
And yes, that counts, smartass.
>Jai Courtney explained that Captain Boomerang is a big a-hole!
>“He’s sexist, he’s racist, he’s a total piece of shit and that’s something I’ve embraced fully,” Courtney said. “It’s Boomer’s job to state the obvious, do the wrong thing and annoy everybody with his ignorance.”
>>83458531
I don't trust Spencer an inch with that shit.
>>83458545
(You)
>>83458531
/o\
not sure if want, but if done cleverly enough, that IS a way to deal with Bru/Waid/Hopeless/Remender
>>83458565
I don't mistrust that Boomers gonna Boom, but I wonder whether he'll have any significant screentime to be best worst best Australian.
>>83458598
>>83458629
>>83458629
no comment needed
>>83458678
10/10
>>83458678
ILU
I'm not going to pay to vote, but if I were, Chuck Tingle all the way
>>83458612
He needs to save the day by sheer accident.
>>83458710
>>83458759
don't make him mad
>>83458678
>filename
I'd have gone with "poor lil' Aussie boy", but that works too.
>>83458531
Link?
>>83458779
oh no, it's a libertarian
>>83458801
hi ron paul
>>83458779
Okay I love Lady Liberty here.
>>83458828
Ron Paul was the best wordfilter
>>83458874
>>83458373
I can always tell when the writer or penciller hasn't done quite enough research on the opera.
Like in Batman: Hush Batman says his parents loved the great composers "but especially Leoncavallo." Leoncavallo only wrote one opera that's popular.
This is not a bad thing *at all*, it's just that it brings home to me how many things in fiction feel just *slightly* wrong to people who know the subject inside out.
>>83458531
i told yall there was a plan
>>83458896
...that's great, author is trying to be even higher brow and fucks up instead
>>83458794
http://wordballoon.blogspot.ca/2016/05/word-balloon-podcast-captain-america.html
Zemo talk starts around 00:49.
>>83458801
His two expressions don't sync up.
>>83458896
I was so pleased when Superboy didn't implicitly go to the Bishop Museum, but interior-wise, it was clear as water he was there and at least the artist did the research. Pre-internet days, yo.
>>83458304
Batman and the Outsiders is at least better than, ugh, Aquaman and the Others.
>>83458925
WHOOPS
>>83458977
Equally clunky, but Outsiders sounds cooler than Others.
>>83458977
Could Johns not come up with a better name for them than "Others"?
>>83459002
It's our favorite scheming bastard!
>>83459046
ha ha you're fucked
>>83459002
>Dr. Light, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Infanticide
>>83458925
That's Loeb for you. Pre-dead son Loeb at that.
>>83458832
Why? She's utterly ridiculous, and not remotely in a good way. If she was literally the Statue of Liberty come to life, then I'd be with you. But she's just some crazy cosplayer bitch.
But then, the Force of July seem like the kind of assholes who would hate the Statue of Liberty because she's French, so whatever.
>>83458977
>>83459033
>the Outsiders weren't around during DC's movie variant month
>>83458977
At least it's not Superboy and the Ravers
>>83459067
>major force
>lois lane
oh lois, honey, no
>>83459046
That's not Vril.
>>83458977
>>83459033
What aboutSuperboy and the Ravers?
>>83459109
10/10 name
>>83459084
we'll have some Loeb on our tour of "what the fuck happened to Nathaniel Adam"
>>83459139
Superman/Batman?
>>83459086
>tfw midnighter didn't get any gag covers
>pulp fiction with prometheus as uma thurman
>>83459108
True, true
>(Someone's going "oh, so @tanehisicoates should get special treatment?!" Yes, he fucking should. Go write Marvel's highest-selling comic.)
Errr, I don't disagree that listening to TNC on "not killing the black dude" is a good idea, but let's all be honest about how and why BP sold what it did and let's see where it lands at #5 or so once LCSes have adjusted for actual demand.
>>83459174
yep
>>83459117
Too bad it wasn't a very good book.
This was the first time I heard of old-school Checkmate, and it actually made me a little interested in them. Shame the actual comic seems to blow chunks.
>>83459227
It had some good waifus.
>>83459197
I love it when people aren't aware of how comics work
BP does of the advantage of being pushed and not having a book before ANAD but I imagine it'll end up selling around Dr Strange
>>83459241
It's very no-powers-actual-espionage, hence an acquired sort of taste, I think
here, have page 2, and not page 3
>>83459324
Fucking lol, the plaster is just on his fucking hair?
>>83459294
It's from someone who ought to know better but sometimes I wonder about. But I guess it's technically true as of the right now, so I'm just nitpicking for its own sake, as I like to do.
So, are we all in agreement that Willshot/Boomer is likely to be the breakout gay porn fountain from SS, if anything at all?
I don't see Rick getting enough screentime to get any lewds.
>>83459241
>Metroplis
>>83459250
Wait, Babylon got killed?
>>83459373
B-but Boomer is racist!baka~
>>83459373
Get your mind out of the gutter.
>>83459359
>This man has written your highest selling book in YEARS.
It was a perfect storm for the #1--how many variants did it have, and what ratios were they at?
that Peacemaker helmet does not work
>>83459266
Yeah, but in spite of what /co/ says, waifus are not enough.
>>83459373
Rick Flag/Nemesis m8.
>>83459425that makes it even better, i bet dudeshoot has to teach boomer-kun black people don't have black cummanually
>>83459450
But arent' they, anon?! AREN'T THEY?!
>>83459463
is Nemesis in the movie?
>>83459373
No, but we can probably all agree that shippers are subhuman garbage who should all die in a fire.
>>83459444
That one dude's suit reminds me of Booster's.
>>83459444
The Peacemaker helmet is great, fight me.
>>83459444
This was the first time I read Peacemaker in something that wasn't Giffen/Rogers Blue Beetle. It was a bit jarring.
>>83459463
He's not casted.
BUT WE HAVE SLIPKNOT
HE COULD BE A WEALTH OF BONDAGE KINK BECAUSE HE'S TOTALLY GOING TO SURVIVE THE WHOLE MOVIE
>>83459493
Unconfirmed, but there are hints Scott Eastwood's character is him.
>>83459444
>in years
Uhhh
>Star Wars #1
>Secret Wars #1
>Invincible Iron Man #1
>Amazing Spider-man #1
Who's saying this and do they even pay attention to comichron because all of those are higher just there
>>83459558
>Who's saying this
Casuals.
>>83459558
hah, data is a beautiful thing
>>83459532
hmmmm
>>83457121
>I call bullshit.
You remember the last Civil War, where the only named character to die and stay dead was a black guy?
>>83459532
Oh, Eastwood's still in the movie? I guess Steve and Nemesis are kinda interchangeable.
I don't know how you have Eastwood on tap and not use him for maximum mancandy, he's underused.
>>83456966
Hey howdy hey.
Man, I keep missing like first hour+ of these threads, and missing most of the fun convo.
That last Wally West thread was literally just me talking to myself once I started posting in it, too.
How readable is Checkmate, besides "not as readable as the OYL version"?
>>83459524
Even if he dies/gets maimed like he probably will, that's not going to stop anybody.
>>83459613
He looks just like his dad, it's crazy.
I can't be arsed to care about the Suicide Squad movie because 1) It's yet more Harley and Joker stroking, and 2) because they made my evil waifu look awful. Enchantress is edgy enough without that... whatever the hell that look is supposed to be.
>>83459524
ya'll are forgetting the joker is in this movie and people will prioritize his porn footprint
get ready for hot joke-on-rick self-inflicted hurt/comfort, kiddies
>>83459669
I liked how Cara turned up to a promo event in a classic Enchantress green dress. She looks kind of weird and pseudo-Egyptian, but I don't hate it completely.
>>83459684
oh god, so much Jokerporn
>>83459661
Maybe he's a secret Clintbot. That's why they don't push him.
>>83459620
>OYL
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>>83459606
No. I didn't read Civil War. Because I'm not that fucking stupid. And I don't know which character you're talking about because I only recently started reading Marvel stuff.
>>83459744
One Year Later.
>>83459744
One Year Later, aka the immediately post-Infinite Crisis DC comics.
>>83459742
There's a lot of blind list stuff about him being closeted. Possibly just wishful thinking. It is an eerie resemblance.
>>83459753
See upthread for the deeply insulting image of Bill Foster Goliath being buried in a tarp
there's a history here that's pretty unpleasant
>>83459783
>>83459784
Oh. Thanks anons.
>>83459803
>>83459789
I want to be in a future where that is not an issue so I can watch Hollywood-budget films about men kissing men EVERY YEAR
>>83459753
If you're not familiar with Marvel or its shitty events, why are you trying to 'call bullshit' on people who are familiar with it?
>>83459866
Shut up, faggot.
>>83459840
Oh gosh, now a relative n00b I know is asking "why is this character in one place in one book and another in their solo?"
no good comes of trying to make continuity that month to month tight, NONE
>>83459885
Where do you think you are?
>>83459885 (You)
>>83459885
>not wanting men to kiss each other
