Mental out of service sign edition.
>>83448094
"We were at Six Flags... I stepped away to get cotton candy... and I lost them..."
>>83448094
You've reached the mind of Holly. She's not in at the moment. Please leave your message after the tone.
>>83448094
Looks like it's beginning to hit Holly.
Besides Doc she just lost everything. Even besides family, the house, and whatnot I'm sure APEX has conveniently declared her dead and frozen her assests already.
>>83448212
>Beeep
>>83448094
Huh, okay. "Who are you?", not "What are you?"... so he didn't know she was Holly, but he also wasn't immediately going to identify her as a "monster", meaning, perhaps, that he really does know more about the mutations, like that earlier scene suggested.
If they have been happening sporadically for a year, could he have already secretly treated anthros before they, escaped, were taken away or destroyed? Maybe he's part of an underground railroad already and that's how they're going to get to Endtown...
That thousand yard stare... she's worse than she was in the bathroom scene, when she was just floating along in a sort of cloud of detached disbelief. It's all catching up with her, and it looks like her brain's just suffered a jam, or an overload.
>>83448094
>Missing pet signs.
That seems like the kind of thing that comes up later, huh?
>>83448094
The thousand yard stare is never a good sign
>>83448094
>The face of Holly at panel three
>The face of horror of Doc for knowing that the mouse is Holly
>>83448362
Aaron did say that the animals started disappearing...
>>83448094
Christ, and it's only gonna get worse from here.Think Aaron's gonna show her progression to sanity once she gets to Endtown?
>>83448305
Well, he's not an idiot. He can see she is a mouse-woman so he can skip that question, and she did drag him out of a car and through a field of buddibomb so it wouod be rude to not give her some degree of acknowledgement.
I always thought thousand yard stare meant a pointed accusatory look people give to other people.
>>83448094
Doc's nose seems to be phasing out of reality in panel 4.
>>83448455
Oh good, I was hinting at that.Honestly, I had forgotten if that was one of those spoiler things I should share or not. If buddibomb and apex robots are domestic let's then maybe that explains why bombs are so loyal to their users and react to perceived dangers. They aren't really programmed besides basic functions and the rest is instinctive behavior from the let's brain. That's kind of horrorifying really.
>>83448362
Aaron's suggested as much, hinting something more than mere bomb radiation happened to the animals.
My guess is that for every X humans who mutate (or maybe just mutate into anthros), Y animals go missing, possibly providing some key component - the information on how the body must be changed to become an anthro must come from somewhere, after all. I mean it could be in the virus' genome, if it really is a biological virus (which I doubt), but that would be a massive, massive genome.
>>83448455
See, I wonder if the animals were getting infected early? Maybe they turn into something else unidentifiable, just phase out of reality or crumble to nothing.
>>83448487
Nah, it's a phrase that popped up to describe victims of shell shock.
An unfocused stare that goes right though you out to some other place and time they can't escape.
>>83448470
>Think Aaron's gonna show her progression to sanity once she gets to Endtown?
I suppose unless Aaron wants us to deduct that she used furry magic to get better.
It hurts to watch Aaron break best mouse for two solid months
>>83448651
Interesting
>>83448487
No, a "thousand yard stare" is a look a person gets when their eyes are focused on nothing in particular - looking like they're focused on some point a thousand yards distant.
>>83448651
Viruses don't work like that!
>>83448799
>implying is a virus at all
>>83448799
What if it is in fact not a virus, but some other agency causing the mutations?
>>83448683
>crumble to nothing.
Background Amesworth from weapons used in foreign nations, drifting across the planet? I mean, there's that theory that it works by weakening morphic fields... maybe lesser animals with less of a concept of "self" just crumble, but their damaged fields hang about, trying to fix themselves by sticking to compatible humans until there's enough invading field scraps to overwhelm the host and forcefully alter their very physical identity...
>>83448799
I know. That's why I doubt it's an actual virus.
But then, Aaron's not exactly a scientific guy, I mean, he emphasises the role of trees in atmospheric oxygen production in that one scene, when I'm pretty sure about 80% of our oxygen production comes from oceanic algae, so you know, I think we're running on Hollywood Biology anyway...
>>83448964
Not 80% but majority yes. That's not the point of that scene though. Jim and Sarah mention that "IF EVERYTHING" got wiped out there would've been only 4 years of air left.
And that's Topsider guesstimate.
If you want to point out Aaron's a bit unscientific approach to things, you might want to go into the fact that Mutant that comes out of a topsider does not match the mass of the original topsider violating mass transfer laws.
>>83448821
>>83448865
>>83448964
the only things on earth that kind of, sort of manage to change DNA are viruses and radiation, which is why pop entertainment loves to use them as instant monster creating formulas.
most sensible thing would be a compound of a few factors with a dash of "fucking magic"
>>83449249
who knows, maybe most of the mutant is actually air pockets and they are gelatinous instead of solid.
>>83449249
Yeah, but if "everything" got wiped out, what's using up the oxygen? Organic life looks to have been decreased in equal proportion whether plant or animal... so I'd think they'd have way more than four years of air left, considering the size of the atmosphere (even if you only include the denser regions) and the reduction in the population, even if it was slowly running out. I'll just chalk that up to a "writers vs. scale" issue, I guess.
Never saw it as including the ocean in that "everything" anyway, since they immediately went on to imply green land and it seems like the nations of the world would have concentrated on bombing each other, rather than the oceans.
Of course, it could have something to do with the dust - if it washed into the oceans and blocked enough light it could kill plenty of photosynthetic stuff.. of course, being organic, if it didn't block much light it probably would have caused algal blooms instead...
(Also I checked after I wrote that and apparently estimates range from 50% to 85% of oxygen coming from oceanic phytoplankton).
And I always thought the mass-shifting was another clue that there's something freaky and supernatural going on... maybe all the mass from the anthros somehow gets added to the eatbeasts?
>>83449249
>>83449510
Actually, apparently this is an answered question:
http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=3097
A few hundred years with other animals around, a thousand or so with just humans says one estimate, and that seems to be assuming the current population. Another says a few hundred at least. In the world of Endtown, with humanity massively reduced, you'd probably get a fair bit longer.
So holly break down again before unity arc is because she thinks that was losing Clive (she actually lost him) and wally
>>83449758
just clive
>>83449758
>>83449758
I'm really having a hard time trying to understand what you just say
>>83449510
I mean even Sarah and Jim comments how the 'guestimates' are stupid. Don't really put much value into topsider "Research" as it's mostly smokescreens and fearmongering.
And yeah the latter suggests supernatural.
>>83449868
I'm trying to say is holly reopened his wounds wen she lost Clive and feel losing wally to kirbee
>>83450182
>losing wally to kirbee
she has no idea about the kiss, or about his feelings towards her... Aaron said this himself
>>83449833
Fun thing, if you compare the Doc of this page with the one in the OP you will notice that he doesn't have his mostache.
>>83450246
She don't know about the kiss but she knows how close kirbee and wally were getting in the desert
>that feel when you don't feel no more
fug
>>83450374
>>83450784
>They are talking!
>That bitch!
>>83451231
suicide much?
>>83451290
>i will prove to wally how much better i am!
>by possibly killing myself and endangering everyone...
>>83451370
In all fairness, Holly has eaten less children than Kirbee has.
>>83451440
What, you think she let a perfectly good fish go to waste?
>>83451440
waste is a sin, anon...
>>83451564
>Miriam might have gotten out alive
>>83451606
only to get blasted by topsiders...
they were bitches, but i thought they were perfectly fuckable.
>>83451370
>I don't need safety gloves because I'm Wally Wall-
>>83451661
>wanting to fuck a 9 iron in a wig
>>83451564
Needs freckles
>>83451762
Shouldn't it be "Holly Holl-" since she was the one who went full Grimes?
>>83451564
If she didn't waste and was not a sinner... why did JimGod say this?
>>83451781
>curly hair and freckles
You have very nice taste anon.
>>83451820
we are all born sinners, anon... fire will cleanse their sins.
>>83451661
It wasn't their fault, it was just the awful society they were stuck in.
Like pre-mutation Holly.
>>83451840
meg's still shit though.
>>83451881
Yeah but she's my shit.
>>83451871
they seemed to be pretty ok with it
being banged all day, laying giant eggs and eating them
pretty much too far gone into their lizard instincts by then.
>>83451881
She is one of the few named Endtown girls who has not made any contact with Wally and as a result is not dead or broken.
Makes me wonder what Doc did the first time
>>83451931
fuck her, she made my waifu feel baaad.
>>83448094
She's gonna spend the next two or three years trying to get over this.
Makes sense.
Maybe the missing pets have sonething to do witn the schism syndrome. Maybe holly will go through it and revert somehow. Either way might be cool
>>83451905
Linda was pretty okay with the mutant hunting.
They're all messed up when surrounded by people making them think they're doing the right thing.
>>83452123
>>83449249
>>83448964
>>83448906
>>83448651
Metamorphic polyfields aside, anthro mutants happening because a random animal disappears somewhere and merges with a sleeping human sounds pretty stupid.
Haha time for casserole
>>83452444
trips demand it! Post Casserole!
>>83452444
Casserole is Best Husbando!
-Holly <3
>>83452571
The casserole was the only one not to betray Holly.
>>83452444
>>83452480
I bet what made her so fixated on Clive was that her baby was going to be named Clive.
Or she is going to see some abandonment hard and determine to never be like that.
>>83452441
>a random animal disappears somewhere and merges with a sleeping human
more like a random animal is turned to dust via Amesworth Radiation, and a particle is wafted through the air to influence a mutation.
>>83452719
..or that Clive was genuinely helpless and she felt sorry for him?
>>83452684
because he was unplugged, i'm pretty sure he would have told her to fuck off just like chic did.
>>83452719
I doubt names had much to do with it. Clive was just a replacement for the baby.
And Wally was just a replacement for Lyn.
>>83452822
>And Wally was just a replacement for Lyn.
i'm pretty sure wally was a replacement for the baby as well...only that he literally got casted aside for clive when holly found it and got attached to it.
>>83452571
Clive a shit. Petey is best casserole.
>>83453024
We never did find out what happened to the other transporter brain Petey rescued.
>>83453024
I still find amanzing how Petey managed to overthrow a rocket with his hands
>>83453060
Maybe in the next story arc
>>83452782
I still wonder the reason behind that tho. Why Chic wanted to stay in Unity? he knowed that he wasn't loved there, I suppose that it was a question of honor, funny, in that aspect he resemble his father.
>>83453216
>chic is 5 years old and has honor
>Holly is 40 and cares only for a casserole
Holly confirmed for SanFran SJW!?!?
>>83448094
Holly looks really fucking hot here.
>>83453242
i guess...
>>83453242
What? I doubt that Holly is that old, and she was just projecting her trauma in Clive. Also I really want to know how much mutation affect the newborns, Chic is very intelligent to be only 5 years old.
>>83453242
damn, you really have it out for Holly...
>>83453349
Holly is a cunt who never loved Wally. Wally is right to move on.
>>83453390
Wally's not moving on anon, as much as id like him to.
>>83453390
>Holly is a cunt who never loved Wally.
That's just assumptions, I recommend you to wait the flashback to end to see it if you are right
>>83453390
That's kinda baseless.
She clearly loves him very much, evidence from the 6 years of comics they are together.
>>83452719
>>83452822
Clive is her, not the baby.
If people only see Clive as what he looks like, then people are going to do the same to Holly.
She's human and so is Clive.
They're just a little mutated.
Kirbee and Wally not seeing Clive as human is the same to her as them not seeing her as human.
>>83453457
well, within the comic's time line it's only been two years.
>>83453497
I think that Clive saying to Holly that she wasn't a human anymore has also something to do with her attachment to him.
>>83453242
You missed the part where Holly's guilt and her severe traumatic experiences are resurfacing
I just caught up with the comic and I can say I'd take Holly and her stubborn devotion over Kirbee and her ditzyness any day.
>>83453823
So you just finished? well, share your experiences with us: what did you like? what not? some moment that made "clip" with you?
>>83453823
>i just finished reading the comic
>lets waifu fight!
>>83453889
Loved it until Mary Sue Marx showed up, although he wasn't as bad as some of these threads have let on.
Ignored the Flask backstory at first, but went back to read it out of curiosity and actually liked it some.
I loved Linda's story, made the trial hit a lot harder
I have nothing but seething hate for the lizards. They are irredeemable monsters and got what they deserved. Kirbee was the only one who was exempt from that, although the comic makes it clear she's supposed to be an idiot so I'm not sure if it counts. The rats were more sympathetic.
>>83453823
Agreed.
Holly would never give up on you, even it it would be mad not to. She keeps on going.
Kirbee would wander off to scrub toilets and forget your name a week later.
>>83454066
>Kirbee was the only one who was exempt from that, although the comic makes it clear she's supposed to be an idiot so I'm not sure if it counts.
You know I never see Kirbee as a idiot but more like a really positive person about his situation, since the comic seems to point that her live before mutating wasn't that good.
And yeah, someones here can exaggerate about Marx, I don't consider him something to stop reading the comic but oh god, everytime he appears is a fucking disaster.
>>83454201
>Holly would never give up on you
>she dumped wally for a plastic head
aight
>>83454290
>she dumped wally
no she didn't
she insisted on carrying Clive herself. She'd definitely try to carry Wally too if she had to. This flashback shows the source of her refusal to give up on anybody.
>>83454428
>This flashback shows the source of her refusal to give up on anybody.
her crazy and obsessive projection towards things, yeah.
>>83448212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7EpSirtf_E
>>83448094
>>83454591
i love this piece, Smagg out did himseld.
>>83454290
Like, she lost her shit for completely understandable reasons, then literally apologized and asked for help. I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or if you're just ice cold.
>>83454717
>literally apologized and asked for help.
>Help
wally tried to help her, but she refused to go back to endtown, regardless of all that happened, endtown is the safest place for her... well, in your defense they had to make it to the boat regardless of her agreeing to go back.
>I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or if you're just ice cold.
i guess i'm just cold, that fucking mental breakdown lasted at least a couple months, it was a train wreck in slow motion and i hate it... i guess i'm still bitter about that.
All i'm getting from this flashback is that Holly was a selfish person, and that everyone had it extremely rough when the mutagen broke loose...
>>83454717
She never apologized to Kirbee or Chic. Or showed any gratitude for Kirbee's prior help, come to think of it.
>>83455180
well, she genuinely believes it's the other way around.
>>83455133
It's hard to call her selfish, because she demanded the very best for her baby. Suddenly she's rich and damn it her baby is never going to be wanting for anything like she may very well have been.
>>83451781
And a micro-bikini
>>83455133
>All i'm getting from this flashback is that Holly was a selfish person, and that everyone had it extremely rough when the mutagen broke loose...
She tried to protect her family, by the wrong means yes, but that wasn't selfish. And yes everyone had it rough, but why does that demerits what happen to her?
>i guess i'm just cold, that fucking mental breakdown lasted at least a couple months, it was a train wreck in slow motion and i hate it... i guess i'm still bitter about that.
I think you're not the only one, the fact of waiting for a new page to drop to then show Holly acting like crazy didn't help her case.
>>83455180
I gotta say, even though she's going through a slow motion nervous breakdown, Holly's treatment of Kirbee seems way out of character. I guess we needed some conflict between them, or else Kirbee and Wally's flirting would have been completely beyond the pale.
>>83455272
I'd forgotten that Kirbee killed Clive! It worked out for the best, but i guess she's not above sacrificing an innocent life for the good of the group.
>>83455180
Actually, after that point she doesn't talk to them, maybe she was ashamed by her acting? we will have to wait until the final of the flashback to see it.
>>83455180
She looks at Kirbee and she sees a lizard who she had to beg in order to get help out of. This is after she was robbed and imprisoned by similar lizards, who she leaned were cannibals on top of that.
Seeing how desensitized Chic was to his own situation clearly struck a maternal chord with her... she always wanted a child yet was denied one, here is a couple who abuse and ignore their child. That broke her down into tears,
Now this lizard(whom she helped save) appears to be trying to get between her and the man she loves, all this combined stress made her snap. She was destined to break, Kirbee just made it hit even harder.
>>83455317
>It's hard to call her selfish, because she demanded the very best for her baby.
>>83455357
>She tried to protect her family, by the wrong means yes, but that wasn't selfish.
I understand wanting to provide the best for your child specially since she had the means to, but she obviously had humble beginnings, not because she's suddenly rich, she has to start acting all entitled and ignore all of Lyn's advises...
>but why does that demerits what happen to her?
it doesn't, but i feel that what's happening to her is not more tragic than what happened to the rest. it's not a special case.
>I think you're not the only one, the fact of waiting for a new page to drop to then show Holly acting like crazy didn't help her case.
it was a fucking nightmare, specially the cliffhangers...
>>83455459
>I'd forgotten that Kirbee killed Clive!
not exactly, she hid him but it was the missile who vaporized his ass, for good.
>>83455543
>it doesn't, but i feel that what's happening to her is not more tragic than what happened to the rest. it's not a special case.
I dunno, man. Wally was a voluntary member of an Apex death squad. Holy just wanted to take care of her family, and lost everything in about the most horrifying way possible. I'm gonna give her a slight edge on the tradgiometer.
I'm not giving up on Holly
Because she wouldn't give up on us. Any of us. Even if she had only just met us. Even if one of us tried to kill her.
Because she's Holly Hollister.
>>83455272
This always made me want a SBaHJ edit of Kirbee saying this.
>>83455317
She demanded the best for the people she cared about at the expense of anyone else. And it isn't the first time.
...well okay if we go chronologically it was the first time, but I mean it's something present Holly does plenty. She hates Wally putting himself at risk for the sake of others because she puts her own interests (in this case her relationship with Wally) first. Which does sound pretty selfish, especially in contrast with Wally and Kirbee's altruism.
>>83455543
>not because she's suddenly rich, she has to start acting all entitled and ignore all of Lyn's advises...
In what way she was entitled? by accepting the buddibombs? Everyone has one, and the paranoia was in his highest level, she just follow the logic of the moment. And Lyn was just a tiny voice againts all the people who agreed that the buddibombs were safe.
>it doesn't, but i feel that what's happening to her is not more tragic than what happened to the rest. it's not a special case.
And that means that I can't feel sorry about her? who is that people that your are talking about? Wally, Kirbee and Chic? I feel sorry about them too, everyone in this comic suffers and we will have time to feel sorry about them, but in this moment we're focusing in Holly. I don't see what's your problem with feeling sorry about her story.
>>83455956
How is selfish to care about people you know above the one's that you don't?
>>83455956
>>83456007
But wait, since her first appearance in the comic, Holly has been one of the most genuinely altruistic characters we've seen? See:
>>83455701
I don't even read this comic but I've seen this thread for years. Every time it seems a little bit more fucked up.
>>83456135
Then you have to, is very good.
>>83456084
That seems like the very opposite of being genuinely altruistic. She's clearly unhappy about having to help someone.
>>83455970
>Lyn was just a tiny voice againts all the people who agreed that the buddibombs were safe.
he knew better, and she completely ignored him...
>And that means that I can't feel sorry about her?
course you can, i an personally having a hard time doing so for some reason...
>who is that people that your are talking about? Wally, Kirbee and Chic?
i was not referring to any of them, but everyone we have seen during the arc so far...
>>83456084
it almost feels like she's trying to make up for something.
>>83456177
But it shows that she cares, if she didn't she wouldn't help Linda.
>>83456177
>She's clearly unhappy about having to help someone.
because that particular someone tried to cut her head off
>>83456135
Can someone post that crudely drawn rendition of Endtown from a while ago
>>83456203
>he knew better, and she completely ignored him...
And now she is paying the consecuences
>course you can, i an personally having a hard time doing so for some reason...
Maybe because you are still bitter about the mental breakdown? I mean, you have all the right to do it, but at least try to see it for the other side.
>i was not referring to any of them, but everyone we have seen during the arc so far...
Again, you're saying this like it means that what happen to Holly wasn't sad
>>83449249
Well, some thing has to fuel all that chnaging. Would it be plausible to assume that whatever excess mass is digested as fuel for the moodification?
>>83456177
She's just doggedly determined to do it. She was the same way with Wally. She knows she doesn't have to, but she's going to do it anyway, god dammit!
It really seems like she can't stand to see people in pain, and she tries to see the humanity in everyone, whether it's a former topsider, a child mutated into a horror, or a plasticized brain.
Except for Kirbee, for some reason. Even though she's losing her mind, that *did* seem out of character.
>>83456347
he's not saying that her hatred towards her is unjustified, which totally is for the point you just mentioned... that doesn't make her "genuinely altruistic" like anon mentioned
>>83456203
>>83456203
>buddibombs
I understand that Endtown's thing is being really wacky and not necessarily plausible, but only retards would accept explosives as a home defense device.
>>83456524
>which is totally justified*
my goodness...
>>83456492
Well, Neitherlands was like the Cold War's America, if people heard that buddibombs were secure they will believe it.
>>83449510
>"writers vs. scale" issue
It is, Aaron also has trouble with time passage. Gustine's quest lasted FIVE months, supposedly. Wally was in Endtown for TWO YEARS. They events on Unity amounted to -two weeks-.
Wait is this story implying that the Buddibombs were an inherirently bad idea?
>>83456492
We've been over this before, Anon.
>>83456581
Oh yeah, the amount of time elapse in Endtown sometimes don't have logic.
>>83456612
Since his introduction, buddibombs always sounded like a bad idea.
>>83456484
She can be altruistic and still be mad at a person for trying to kill her you know.
>>83456612
No shit, Sherlock?!
>>83456695
>>83456764
taht just reinforces the idea that "tool is bad" instead of the more correct "the person using the tool is bad"
>>83456612
Any mishaps are clearly down to user error.
>>83456807
hope you are not that anon who implied buddibombs were some allegory for "self defense with guns is bad" or some shit...
>>83456807
The problem here is that the buddibombs were a bad idea from the go, but you see all that persons using them, why? they have fear, Apex promised a weapon to protect them and they believed it because they were scare of what could happen in the future.
Toddlers have killed more people with buddibombs in 2016 than monsters have. Get woke.
>>83456849
That is exactly what it is. It's hilarious that people think that Aaron is some redpill, rational crusader in the cesspit that is webcomics because the undertones of Endtown say otherwise.
>>83456903
monsters cant use buddybombs tho
If Beardchef had had some buddibombs he wouldn't have died in that fiery explosion.
>>83456905
so it's you...
>>83456905
>That is exactly what it is
Why?, because there's guns in it? I don't know, it almost seems that Aaron just thinked: "What if there's home-made bombs?" and decide to see the obvious cons of that idea. In any moment the comic says that using guns is bad, hell Wally didn't want to use any gun and look how it ended: someone die because he refused to keep the ray pistol.
>>83456351
>>83457138
I wonder where is he now...
>>83457204
>when all the lizards were burning
>>83457138
>>83457204
Magnificent x 2
>>83456905
Not this shit again.
where's my Neon Genesis Endtown anime dammit?
>>83457539
And where's the pinup calendar?
>>83457539
Who would be who in a parody opening title?
>>83456903
Hey pal, that was only because of little Barry 'manface' Bambino and his bloody crusade. Skewing the numbers.
Hey guys! Tomorrow is game day again. We are using new skill rules so we are getting that house ridden.
>Rules are getting revised for skills. Like all things it will be 1d100+stat bonus+skill. For each skill there is set numbers for if it was an easy task, medium, or hard. Every skill give you +10 per level or what would equal 2 points in a stat.
An example of this would be:
>Lockpicking:Agility bonus: thresholds: easy: 90 M: 120 H: 140
So if you had an agility of 5 and a lockpicking skill of 2 then it would be 1d100+25+20 or 1d100+45, or 50% for an easy.
This of course does mean that the character sheet is going to have to be revised, sorry Suule.
>>83459143
Oh boy, I can't wait to break it to the group. Thanks rpganon for helping me learn how to relearn a system.
>>83459143
Additionally: session is 18 hours from now or 12noon PST/ 3pm est.
Current:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9zUbKbVjWUBcTRWdDZqaTN1bXc/view?usp=drivesdk
[email protected]
>>83459143
I'm modifying character sheets as we speak to include the space for bonus from stat, so don't worry. We're going with the 3 skill level format still right?
>>83459231
It's a living organism, so yeah until the rules are in place we're gonna keep working this out. Good luck with that campaign tomorrow and please post how it went.
>>83459231
With all the systems I've learned I cant tell if you're being sarcastic. But really though hit me up with any questions.
Everything stays the same, but that 00-99 three level skill thing was always kind of a bad fit. This should be easier, although it makes everything more stat dependant.
...and you have to look up the levels for each skill check. That could be bad... whatever, worth a test.
>>83459334
>I'm modifying character sheets as we speak to include the space for bonus from stat, so don't worry. We're going with the 3 skill level format still right?
Actually that three level thing should be discarded given that it's only a +10 bonus. I it would have to be like weapon skills where there are no skill limits.
I'm also going to adjust how much it takes to buy a skill to compensate.
>>83459565
So we're going away with dots and just sticking with "Skill level" instead? Gotcha. Oh BTW - if a character doesn't possess a skill and still wants to try something there should be an attempt at -20 or -30 or -40 penalty. I mean they're welcomed to try but that just means they're gonna fuck up.
>>83459231
>>83459334
It does have some benies, this way.
Now I have cemented types of skills:
>Bonus skill: a skill that gives a bonus to another action. Ie combat, some physical skills.
>Action skills:. Skills that cause something to happen. ie most skills.
>Mini game skills(terrible name I know): skills with their own rules and mechanics.ie gambling, stealth skills, medical skills.
>>83459642
I don't know. I'm a big fan of the dunning Krueger effect. I don't think I'd be here without it!
The average threshold is 80, so I think maybe saying you don't gain your stat bonus so you are looking at 20 to 30% chance to success. So for this week let's just say it's a straight role.keep in mind the skill bonus for high mind players still applies.
Besides that I want to get to a better encounter table for the great wastes. Bandits are fun, but what other weather stuff would you see?
>>83460494
>>83460080
And there!
Whoops. Fixed 130 into 140 in the cheat sheet.
>>83456432
Still wouldn't disappear into thin air, unless you're talking about turning it straight into energy, in which case enough would be converted to blow an asteroid-impact-sized crater in the planet, so probably not.
>>83460767
>>83460546
Nice!
>>83460856
As I understood it the day guns destroyed carbon and vaporised water. The remainder would be silicon and afew other substances. The metric tons of dust in the comic is the literal remains of everyone that got hit by Amesworth radiation. I mean there are alot of mysteries to the comic so who knows all of what happens. But I do know that zero radiation=Instant cremation.
Also, Amesworth radiation is a mouthful, sure theres zero energy but it could use something more slang, you know? Something like AmRad or Rad Amey.
>>83462588
Weren't we talking about where the spare mass during a mutation into a "fuzzy dwarf" vanishes to, not the dusty stuff from a disintegration? I mean, we literally saw mass vanishing into thin air when that one topsider mutated inside his suit...
>Endtown's latest page has a broken woman realizing she lost her entire world
>Poppy's latest page is more "hilarious" lesbian jokes
I don't know how to feel right now.
>>83463232
You can feel good about both of them because both comics are swell
>>83463232
What about this? I actually don't know why you care that much
>>83463368
I wouldn't call Poppy "swell", but eh, everyone his way.
>>83463432
>I wouldn't call Poppy "swell", but eh, everyone his way.
to be fair, it was kinda cute when it started out, the first couple arcs were pretty nice... the morbi ODs on tumblr koolaid and started shoving a bunch of lgbt shit into the comic for no real reason...
>>83463368
>>83463432
It's just that both comics update frequently at the same days and the mixed moods make me feel make my head hurrt. That's all.
Not trying to incite a fanbase rivalry or anything.
>>83463569
>then*
>OD'd*
i better go to bed...
>>83463633
But anon, sleep deprivation give us things like Roxie with a beard
>>83463674
and metal holly, i was the one who fucked up on that one...
>>83463619
>make me feel make my head hurrt.
Yeah, this is definitely messing with me.
>>83463569
The gay stuff has been there from the start. I'm honestly surprised that most people didn't catch on earlier, since the first chapter it looked like Petunia and Poppy would end up kissing or something.
>>83463705
And don't forget a classic like motion blur
>>83463712
>The gay stuff has been there from the start. I'm honestly surprised that most people didn't catch on earlier, since the first chapter it looked like Petunia and Poppy would end up kissing or something.
If there was any gay stuff in the beginning it must have been very subtle, which is fine, to me it looked like a lighthearted comic at first, a mom possum on adventures and stuff like that. it was shaping up to be like wuffle or something similar.although wuffle feels like could explode into homo orgy at any time.
now pretty much every character is a complete homo or a lesbian for no apparent reason.
>>83463876
>although wuffle feels like could explode into homo orgy at any time.
You don't know? the author finally give up, and start drawing porn of the comic.
>>83463918
It was a fan comic. We don't even know if Piti-Yende approves of it.
>>83463918
>>83463957
i see, well i wouldn't be surprised of he ends up drawing gay porn eventually... for a pg13 comic, that shit's pretty gay.
>>83463619
>someone said "Endtown is better." in the Poppy thread
It was not me, I swear.
>>83464075
some one trying to start shit probably, i hope they ignore him.
>>83463876
>subtle
Morbi was a notorious yurifag long before he started the comic, and he made absolutely no effort to hide the fact that bisexuality was the norm for his setting.
>>83464037
I could swear someone said he got his start in gay furry porn, and that's why Wuffle always looks like it's about to turn into that sort of stuff on the very next page.
>>83464108
Not like it's hard to start shit over there. I specifically don't want to talk Endtown because I'm afraid it'll start something.
I'm not afraid of talking about other comics here because things are pretty civil,until someone talks about grammar.
>>83464219
It's not a rumor, it's a fact. And not "cute gay" like Morbi does (or what Wuffle looks like, honestly), it was hardcore stuff.
>>83464256
>Not like it's hard to start shit over there.
all you have to do is say you dislike anything about the comic, they will tear you a new asshole... the place is a huge hugbox
>>83464256
I can't remember a single time the Poppy threads have ever talked shit about Endtown aside from the few sane posters telling people trying to start fights to go back to their own threads.
You're far more likely to see Endtown fans ragging on Poppy fans than the other way around.
>>83464256
>I'm not afraid of talking about other comics here because things are pretty civil
You know, even when talking about the deal with Holly and Kirbee things are somewhat civil, specially now that the waifufags fuck off
>until someone talks about grammarBeware anon, one typo is enough to start it
>>83464332
If you're the guy obsessed about the Children of the Fruit, you derserved it.
That was one of the most stupid arguments I've seen in my 7 years on 4chan.
>>83464381
>Children of the Fruit
not at all, i haven't posted on a poppy thread since the last hiatus, no idea what you are talking about.
>>83464381Context? I always like some drama
>>83464380
>Beware anon, one typo is enough to start it
I've already made a mistake I hope nobody notices.
>>83464435
>>83464458
It started with >>83332874.
You're in for a very stupid and infurating ride if you wish to continue.
>>83464370
the only reason i'm salty about poppy is because i used to genuinely enjoy the comic... the hiatus during the dragon arc absolutely killed the comic for me, i tried to com back and see the end of the arc, but that dragon fight was a complete fucking mess. i just dropped the whole thing all together... and apparently i'm not missing out on anything at all
>>83464458
Some guy was complaining a plot element that was introduced on the very first page of the comic (the species in Poppy are all descended from magical God trees) was unbelievable because he had assumed it was a metaphor instead of a literal story until the comic directly brought up the concept of "children of the fruit" still being born in the present times.
It was extremely stupid.
>>83464536
>>83464580
Holy fuck, that guy was a real retard.
>>83463619
>Not trying to incite a fanbase rivalry or anything.
Get out of here with that civility nonsense. You pick a waifu and you start shitting on everyone that's not her.
>>83464819
I rather not throw stones from my glass house. She *is* a raging alcoholic. She's also dead.
>>83464819
>You pick a waifu and you start shitting on everyone that's not her
That's bullshit, what you have to do is recollect all the pics that can find of Jim and start lamenting his death.
>>83464907
That's okey anon, though im a kirbee fag, i can't possibly shit on this Qt, i miss her so much,
>ib4 we see human Allie in pep stadium
>>83465011
But at least she's now in a better place right?Unless o'course that Eye ate her soul
i have always been amazed by the lack of Allie lewds and cheesecake... she could use some fucking love.
>>83465267
Most were done by non-Alliefags because we're too busy moping to do anything.
>Chochi delivers
>every reply is sadness
Allie is cute!
>>83465462
Radical, dude.
>>83465536
i didn't draw that... just saying.
>>83464467
poor motion blur anon. He'll never hear the end of it.
>>83465462
>>83465267
>>83465011
Drunk angry Allie is best Allie.
>>83465807
Don't worry about him, he just needs to listen to his favorite band and he will be happy.His favorite band is Blur btw
>>83465883
Allie is for sexyand bad puns
>>83463194
Maybe it just gets dense. Would explain why Wally can fist fight normal sized mutants when realistically he would be man handled like a small child.
>>83466069
Take into acount that Wally was also a soldier so he most know one or two things about hand in hand combat.
>>83463368
>>83463232
They are both very different comics.
>>83464256
I hope we don't I know I personally make terrible mistakes every pst.
>>83466106
>was also a soldier
Wally was a dirty contractor. The flag he saluted to was a blank check flapping in the air!
>>83466181
It doesn't start like that. It starts when we question whether something is grammatically correct or not.
For example, was it right to include the dot inside the quotation marks in >>83464075? Some would say yes, some would say no. Or you could argue if calling it a "dot" is right or not.
This is just an example, though. Please don't take it seriously. Please.
>>83466272
Wait,Wally was a mercenary? I think he was a engineer working for Apex
>>83466425
He was an engineer that made buildings but when they needed soldiers he was given an assault rifle and training. Then he got about a year of experience in the battlefields before the incident with the teacher.
Did you think he is good at fighting just because he is a cat?
>>83466614
>Did you think he is good at fighting just because he is a cat?
I'm not that anon, just that I always thought that he was a soldier all the time.
>>83466272
i remember some one actually made a drawing of wally as a PMC a long time ago, it was actually pretty decent, i wonder if anyone has it.
![2012-03-29-endtown-03-29-2012[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/X3mwErs.gif "2012-03-29-endtown-03-29-2012[1].gif")
>>83466425
>I think he was a engineer working for Apex
Combat engineer. Does blueprints and does fighting.
And Apex was a corporation or non-government entity so that means he was a mercenary working under a contract and commission. Apparently they were also working with the government about the 'mutant problem.'
Although Wally acts on moral soundness now, it seems he was pretty good at ignoring details until they were shoved in his face.
>>83466850
>Does blueprints and does fighting.
now i kinda want to see wally Operating along side Jim.
>>83466882
Now I want to see Wally as the engineer from Team Fortress 2
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5PZ8JOc.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>83466906
>>83466882
I always thought Jim would be a sort of wet work, black ops kind of mercenary.
Seemed like the kind of guy to snap necks all day long and fuss about The Mission.
>>83466850
>it seems he was pretty good at ignoring details until they were shoved in his face.
Well, he was a mercenary after all, as long as he received his pay he would be ok. It wasn't until he saw that Apex was contributing with the problem instead of solving it that he wanted to take action, but it was already too late.
>>83466961
ha!, before he had schism, there was some speculation that jim was a soldier for apex, and that he was gonna wage guerrilla warfare against the lizards as revenge... i wanted that to happen so bad.
>>83466961Metal gear?!
>>83466614
>about a year of experience in the battlefields
Scratch that. It was three.
>>83466850
>>83467008
Jim was very pragmatic but it only got him so far. It seems like Sarah knew a lot more than him in general.
>>83467516
For being just a telemarker, and whatever Jim was they knowed too much that the average topsider. They would have a reason to lie to Wally and Holly since they didn't know if them were trustworthy.
>>83467594
Sarah was a telemarketer for Apex before the apocalypse, it isn't clear what she was a topsider though she claims she was a scientist. Jim was probably just a grunt who fell in love with her and believed everything she said.
>>83466069
We've seen no indication that Wally or Holly are particularly dense for their size, in fact I'm pretty sure they aren't since we've seen that anthros can still float in water.
Additionally, the reverse would apply for the giant abominations - they'd be light and weak, and that doesn't seem to be the case at all.
>>83467008
Jimbo: First Blood
>>83468642
>In a alternative universe Jim survives and ends in Endtown, where he starts having flashbacks about his time hunting down mutants
>>83468751
Is this true?
>>83468803
Yes
>>83459231
>>83459143
One last update: I made a quick sheet for skills. Also its a different roll to repair things as opposed to crafting.
The image is small and hard to read, I know. Here is the full pdf to make things easier.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9zUbKbVjWUBYk5kT1UyRVQ4TkE
>>83468803
Well I don't think either creators are bad. It's clear that both focus on different aspects and have different goals for their work. And they have different kinds of fans and deal with different crap.
But Aaron clearly works his ass off. Really I think that's a skill he's developed from doing this kind of thing for so long.
>>83466039
source please for the love of god
>>83469622
Chochi, you newfag.
>>83469622
Chochi made it
