Just incase anyone missed it
>>83445501
Lets get some discussion. What'd you guys think of the issue?
>>83445532
BRUCE CLOSE THE DOOR
>>83445519
still autistically annoyed Wally was in the Kid Flash suit
but happy he's back
>>83445519
I enjoyed it a lot more than I was expecting. All the character bits were well-done and succeeded in getting me interested in following where they go next.
>>83445615
I miss old dcu
>>83445629
How huge was the reaction to the ending in the original thread to those that were in it?
>>83445519
All is well except
>no muh Hawks
>>83445629
There was a lot I enjoyed about the New 52, but fuck it's so nice to have Wally and the JSA coming back. I really missed the legacy and interconnectedness of the DCU post-Crisis.
>>83445657
This issue is fucking long
>>83445677
Hopefully this stuff is touched upon soon and we don't have to wait like next year for the event to continue
>>83445644
Pretty big, the other Watchmen pages and Wally were spoiled by leaks but the ending homage to Watchmen was pretty cool, admittedly.
>>83445560
It makes sense, several years of his life were taken out.
>>83445644
Ending was spoiled, so...
But there were bitchfests of threads for couple of days with JOHNS RAPED MY CHILDHOOD HARDER THAN STAR WARS PREQUELS.
Come to think of it, this is pretty much Brave New World vol. 2.
>>83445644
Empty is his hand.
>>83445744
What are the chances stuff from multiversity gets incorperated?
THOSE were some good threads
>>83445735
This scene is weird to me because the LoSH has shown up a couple times in New52. There was nothing to reestablish there. They even had legionnaires living in modern times for a while.
>>83445730
No Batman finding the Comedian's button was spoiled, not the clock conversation at the end.
>>83445665
Everyone's a Hawkman now.
>>83445762
This event pretty much runs on Hypertime already.>
>>83445812
Jamie's comics really sucked. I like him though
>>83445787
Didn't Levitz's League turn out to be the future of Earth 2?
>>83445829
Have you read his original series that immediately followed Infinite Crisis? The one with Giffen and Rogers
>>83445842
Ted's such a fucking dork.
>>83445841
Hmm maybe, but they still also showed up in Morrison's Action Comics run.
>>83445842
>mfw MAGIC
>>83445890
Those are the ones I'm talking about. I might need to give them another shot, but I really didn't like them. They just felt really disconnected and the art wasn't that appealing to me
>>83445890
And Pandora died as she lived.
Completely unmemorable.
>>83445970
OTP
T
P
>>83445817
How so
>>83446003
This is the best issue to come out this year
thoughts on the rebirth books so far?
>Batman: Rebirth
Kind of weird for an opening salvo but its full of rebirth-based symbolism both visually and in the text, and even homages year one, so there's plenty of layers to be explored, which I appreciate from King
>Green Arrow: Rebirth
Despite not being Percy's first time on Green Arrow, it is the start of a new run and it's the best issue of his stuff so far. He gets the character dynamics just right, it's as preachy and loudmouthed as a green arrow comic needs to be but never sacrifices the story for it. blends the political commentary with superheroics just right and the art is gorgeous
>Superman Rebirth
This is okay. I think Tomasi nails the voice of old superman, and mahnke's art is still good despite faltering on justice league new 52. Feels a little recappy I guess
>Green Lanterns Rebirth
some of the dialogue feels a little bendis-y and the art is all over the place, but the characterizations of jessica and hal are decent. i give it 2 more issues to hook me
>>83445964
I didn't notice the quotes on "tragedy" before. That's an interesting distinction. Does that mean the dead Superman isn't actually dead or maybe he wasn't a real person?
>>83446020
>art is all over the place
Especially skinny Dex-Starr and orgasmed-out Bleez.
>>83446073
I find it funny that everyone is whining about one Moore property being co-opted when these two have been put through the DC ringer for so long.
>>83446008
Old continuity rebounding back. Both Johns and Morrison specialize in reintroducing old characters and concepts from previous iterations of the DCU.
>>83446130
Yeah, plus Johns has said in interviews that the interpretation of the multiverse in rebirth is the Morrisonian one, a living being constantly growing with every story that is written.
I've always been more Marvel, since I was a kid and read the first Secret Wars.
I haven't bought anything physical in over a year.
I'm feeling like picking this one up on my way home.
huh.
>>83446183
>>83446201
>>83446212
Masterfully portrayed scene with high tension, beautiful compositions, and loads of comics references throughout. Johns and Jimenez go together like peanut butter and chocolate.
>>83446292
Alright /co/, we have to react to the next page as if we've never seen it before in our lives
drumroll please
>>83446315
HOLY SHIT
>>83446345
MOORE IS GONNA SUE THEM!
>>83446345
JOHNS YOU FUCK
>>83446345
>>83446405
>>83446420
Is it pathetic that I was shivering right here?
>>83446529
If you were shivering with anticipation, no.
>>83446556
Antici
pation
But where's Bart?
>>83446345
>>83446529
>>83446556
Seriously though, I know some people are upset about the Watchmen being incorporated into the DCU, but without them, could Rebirth have had this much hype in one single page?
>>83446405
>>83446420
>rewinding from 11 to 9
>2011 is when Flashpoint happened, 2009 is when Flash Rebirth happened
>Literally rewinding the clock from Flashpoint back to the old DCU
>Hour hands points to 5, minute to 9
>'59 is when Wally West got his powers
>>83446602
>But where's Bart?
Baby steps, senpai. There's Bart but he's not Bart. Gotta get rid off of impostor.
>>83446632
I knew there was some meaning that was 2deep4me.
>>83446602
Honestly, I'm hyped as hell. Sure it's a risky move and it has to be carefully done, but it's Johns we're talking about here. He can do it.
>>83446602
If Batman found the Ultra Comics issue I would have lost my shit, but this is still a great twist.
>>83446239
MUH WALLY
>>83446783
Still weird how Earth Prime didn't get copy of Ultra Comics.
>>83446239Where's the porn?
>>83446948
We did though. You read it, anon. It's inside your brain, anon.
>>83446529
Zooming in to show the doomsday clock was chilling for me too.
>>83445460
Read x3 so far. 4th incoming
>muhwally
>>83446420
Thank you
>>83446632
save this for the next hypercrisis thread please
>>83445790
>DO NOT....
now i'm curious
New cover for the third printing, by Gary Frank and Alex Sinclair.
>>83446183
>>83446201
>>83446212
Well that was fucking awesome
That Jimenez scene is just too good. He killed it.
>>83446237
>I'm feeling like picking this one up on my way home.
Sold out literally everywhere
>>83448806
FUCK I WANT TO GET IT. It's not gonna be incentive based right? I don't want to deal out $20 for a fucking cover.
>>83446237
Too bad it's sold out freaking everywhere. You can pick up the 2nd Printing which is double the price but has an actual spine and better page quality (Real Talk: Despite being twice the price it still has more pages than the also $6 Civil War 2 #1 which caps at 56 pages.)
>>83446315
>going to war with the forces of hopelessness
>>83446368
>>83446405
>>83446420
>manhatten fixing what was broken
>turning back the doomsday clock
>>83446529
I knew it was coming and and I'm still shivering.
god, let this be the time one of the big two actually does something right
>>83445829
the original run was goat
the solicits for the new one explicitly says they're ignoring the new 52 one, that's how bad it was
>>83450435
What happened in his New 52 run?
>>83449549
My LCS had plenty on the Wednesday it released, but I think it sold out the day after. The extra printings help.
>>83450501
They ignore or mishandle his entire supporting cast. Biggest problem with it.
This is like watching someone dig up a tomb, then play around with the corpse, like it's a puppet.
>>83451233
Watchmen is a shit book
>>83451960
Tell 'em Steve-Dave.
>>83446405
the rust on the wheel is on the same place the blood is on the comedians pin
>>83445460
It seems so weird that DC would let Johns write a whole book about how the last five years of their editorial policy was a terrible mistake.
I mean, it *was* a mistake, but this is the sort of thing you usually expect after a complete shakeup of management.
>>83445568
/co/ told me you can see where the Comedian's badge embeds itself into the Batcave here
>>83456078
They've been letting Morrison openly criticize editorial and WB corporate in his work for a while. It's not that weird.
>this is the sort of thing you usually expect after a complete shakeup of management
I think that kind of happened. Johns seems to basically be acting as EIC right now.
I just noticed that the store I usually buy comics from is selling second printings of Rebirth for 8.8 USD each, has anyone else seen anything similar?
>>83456545
>conspicuous sound effect
>textboxes centered around it
Makes sense to me.
>>83446632
Oh I just saw it starts at 52 minutes and rewinds back.
>>83457041
They are probably just taking advantage of other places being sold out, the second printing hasn't shipped yet iirc (you'll know because it has a spine rather than just being a normal stapled floppy like the first printing)
>>83446020
I liked ho each had small Rebirth nods.
Batman: Calendar Man knowing time is wrong.
Superman: Pic related.
Green Arrow: This scene >>83445935
Green Lantern: Well maybe no clues in Green Lantern,cause Hal is clueless.
>>83457726
They are the only store in the country that sold the issue directly and were sold out a week in advance so yeah, probably. Still kind of odd to see them raise the price that much since that makes it twice as expansive as buying the issue from the UK or Germany...
>>83446602
>But where's Bart?
He needs to stay in limbo for a bit till people forget the shitty New 52 version of him.
>>83446183
>>83446201
>>83446212
>>83446239
fucking beautiful. I almost cried.
Wait.....COMICS ARE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT FOR ONCE?
Well I'll be damned
>>83446345
DC has officially run out of storylines
>>83445855
>hurr homophobic parents in 2016
Why DC?
>>83458839
nigga 4chan has homophobic teens/young adults in 2016
you think old people being homophobic is a stretch?
>>83445665
Hawkgirl's still in Earth 2.
As for Hawkman... fuck 'em.
>>83458839
>homophobic black parent
Just portraying reality.
>>83446345
Nice pog, Batman
>>83458990
>Even Batman doesn't have the Alf pog
Milhouse was right.
>>83445560
Wally is more recognizable in the Kid Flash suit.
If he was in the Flash suit it would just make the scene with Barry Allen in this issue weird.
>>83458866
4chan is known for it's conservative views etc.
The worst part is the mother approaching her teenager and not providing any reason for insulting him, other than her idea of 'unnatural' because DC doesn't want to assblast the liberals who read their comics. The fact DC even thought to include that shit is pathetic.
>>83458916
nah, SJW's would pick up on that as muh racism
>>83446345
>>83459168
>4chan is known for it's conservative views etc.
4chan is know for being contrarian trolls
>>83457969
I did.
>>83458622
I remember when Marvel said when Ultimate and 616 crossover that means Marvel has run out of ideas
cue Spider-men
>>83446719
>Geoff Johns
>intelligent and careful writing
pick one.
http://www.newsarama.com/29599-dc-s-didio-lee-on-whether-rebirth-was-a-repudiation-or-not-of-watchmen-and-the-new-52.html
>Although DC Co-Publishers Dan DiDio and Jim Lee are hoping Rebirth can duplicate the kind of high sales numbers the company saw when the New 52 was launched in 2011, the two executives aren't shying away from admitting that the "New 52" had a few things wrong with it.
>And although DC Universe Rebirth undoes some of the damage done by the "New 52," the two executives prefer to focus on how the upcoming stories are adding things back into the "New 52" that were, admittedly, missing.
>But one of the things being added into the DCU is something that's never been there before — the world of Watchmen, the acclaimed graphic novel that was formerly completely separate from DC continuity. With DC Universe Rebirth, the Watchmen characters have crossed into the DCU, and in fact were blamed for the "New 52" reboot itself.
>So why add Watchmen to the DCU? And what's the new approach to continuity? And is all the commentary about DC being too dark in the past representative of how the company's executives feel? Following up on our pre-Rebirth interview with the two executives, Newsarama talked to Lee and DiDio to get their insight on those post-Rebirth questions and more.
>Newsarama: So Dan, Jim, let's cut right to the chase. Was there any hesitation at the idea of introducing Watchmen into the DCU? Was that just something you thought made sense?
>Jim Lee: Look, we expected it would be a controversial decision. I think with all storylines that have that potential to go that direction, you have to look at the story and the creator that's telling that story and look at the trade-offs, honestly.
>>83445996
Linda's right looks like a cut and paste error in the bottom panel.
>With all kinds of potentially controversial decisions, we always weight the creative upside of making these kinds of changes. And I think the story that Geoff Johns came up with really accomplished that. There was a lot of creative upside to making this a reality, a change in DC continuity.
>And if you've read any of the reviews or criticisms online, a lot of people picked up on the meta aspect of it, which was really interesting for us to read.
>But at the end of the day, it fit in. You're doing it retrospectively, of course. But it definitely positioned and re-seated the "New 52" within the context of the pre-existing universe continuity, and incorporated elements of Watchmen.
>I think it comes down to, do you do something that's disrespectful of the Watchmen or do something that alters what that story is? And our goal is to do neither of those.
>So I think it's an incredible tease and set-up for a bigger storyline. But as far as, is this a Watchmen story? I think it's not. It's handshaking the concept of the Watchmen and using it to adjust some of the continuity that was going on in the DC Universe.
>And I think you have to wait and see for the rest of the storyline, I won't really spoil it.
>But you'll see that there was some tremendous creative upside in making this happen.
>So it was a challenging, difficult decision to make, but in the end, we stood behind the creator, the storyline, the creativity of the storyline, and we feel we have a very exciting story that will unfold in the coming year.
>Nrama: As you mentioned, one of the things people have picked up on from Rebirth is that there's kind of this meta context that the DCU has been dark and has turned away from its hopeful and inspirational nature. There's even an implication in Rebirth that Watchmen kind of infected DC Comics since it was published. Is that idea at all supported by the DC publishing side of things?
>Dan DiDio: You know what's interesting to me is I've always found comics to have a little bit of a counter-culture feel. And that's one of the things they did — they took ideas and sensibilities and they found a way to build story around it and find a way to galvanize the sensibilities of the world.
>One of the things that's interesting in the world today is that there's an inherent negativity and anger and hostility that's all around us. This felt like the right time to shift the sensibilities of the publishing line to actually bring back a counterpoint — a sense of hope and inspiration.
>If we have a world that is lacking heroes or people to rally around, then we're going to elevate our characters and show them what that level of hope and inspiration is about by putting our characters in the forefront by showing what it means to be a hero again.
>So it seemed like the right time to embrace this story. Just the same way we attacked different sensibilities in the world post-9/11, now it felt like we needed heroes again. And there's no better way to tell hero stories than with our characters.
>Nrama: The other thing that this story felt like was kind of a repudiation of the "New 52," that things were stolen from the DCU. Do you see it that way?
>DiDio: The launch of the "New 52" is still the single most successful period of time for DC Comics, in sales and storytelling. For us, this is an evolution of that period of time.
>That said, we probably changed some things a little bit too much, and we left things out that really resonated very importantly with our fans. And this was an opportunity to start to work those beats and stories back into storytelling so that we're able to reach the greatest audience possible.
apparently there was a TV ad that aired for Rebirth. Anyone seen it?
>I mean, you know, we don't — as much as some people might think changes are being made haphazardly, when we do a line-wide change of this sense, it's thought all the way out, about where the weaknesses are in our storytelling, what needs to be addressed.
>So everything you saw in Rebirth was meticulously planned and discussed, because we realized these were the things that were missing with our audience, and if we really wanted to connect to them, and to really improve sales to get back to those numbers we had when we first launched the "New 52," we had to make some changes. And that's the reason why we went down that road.
>Lee: When I said the meta stuff was interesting to read, I meant it was interesting to me, because that wasn't necessarily the intent of Rebirth, this repudiation that you're talking about. It was interesting that people picked up on that and ran with it.
>I think at the end of the day, what Rebirth is really about, if you take that line literally or look at it through the meta prism, you know, "I love this world, but there's something missing," I think it's more than: Hey, the "New 52" was exciting and introduced a lot of new elements. It excited the readers and brought in new readers and new fans. But there were things that we overlooked, and elements of the DC Universe that really were core to the universe, that in our zeal and excitement going forward to establish new continuity, that we might have overlooked.
>And I think that was Geoff saying, look, we have to restore these elements. These are critical elements of the DC Universe. And he came up with a storyline that embraced the hope and optimism of the DC Universe and allows us to restore those elements.
>So I think, to me, it's more additive, rather than a repudiation. But it was interesting reading these reviews, because people were looking at the story in so many different ways and looking at all the different layers of the story. And that was interesting for me to see as a reader and as a fan, that people were very engaged, to that level, by the story. Because that, to me, signaled that we were on the right track. It got people really thinking about comics, the history of comics, what DC Comics should represent, what kind of stories they want to see, and what these characters represent.
>So I think it's a creative challenge to everyone — the fans, the editorial teams, the business, of where this business is going. That's a heavy story to put out there, and I think it's great that he was able to weave it into an entertaining story as well.
>It accomplished all that, and I think that's why it's really resonated with the readers.
>DiDio: And if you read the book, you can tell that Geoff put his heart and soul into writing that book, the Rebirth special. I think that's why it worked so well.
>From our standpoint, we always need to evolve. We always need to grow, we always need to change, we always need to reset every once in a while. That's the way our business works. We're in a periodical business. We've got to turn out a great number of books on a monthly basis, or twice-monthly basis now. So in doing so we've always got to find the best opportunities, the best stories. And if there are good ideas that were left unused and not touched upon from the "New 52," we would be making a mistake not to explore them at this point and not build on them.
>What's exciting to see is that, because these ideas have been rested for an extended period of time, the level of acceptance for them and the excitement for them has never been greater.
>And actually, I remember my days when I first started at DC and Paul [Levitz, former president and publisher of DC Comics] used to do this. He used to talk to me about characters all the time. And he used to talk about, when a book was canceled, you'd have to put a character on a shelf for three to five years. He said, "Let some of the toxicity wear off from whatever that previous run was. Let other people remember how wonderful the ideas were. And then come back strong and hopefully be able to rebuild the character or story for a long run again."
>That's how they used to cycle the DC characters through. You used to see a Hawkman book or something every five years or so.
>We've accelerated that, and probably to our own detriment in doing that. We've rushed books behind books so quickly that we didn't have a chance to build an audience.
>And I think in this case, we actually rested something the right amount of time, so when it comes back, it's going to come back stronger than ever, and hopefully can last for as long as it can.
>Nrama: It's interesting to hear you kind of — I don't know if the word is "admit" — but you said that every once in a while, and I'm guessing every five or 10 years, you do have to reset things and decide, "what is our line saying now?" And you just revised things again that way, not rebooted mind you. But it sounds like you're saying that's just the nature of a periodical business. That's what this is?
>DiDio: Yeah.
>And you know, if I could get anything back from the "New 52" and do something over, I'd probably try to look at a better way to introduce the line so it felt like a continuous story, rather than just a hard stop and a hard, fresh beginning again.
>But, you know, we Monday morning quarterback on every decision that we do here.
>Nrama: I don't know how much you can say about how the continuity works. I assume we'll find this out as we go. But Rebirth seems to embrace Crisis on Infinite Earths but it rejects, for example, Identity Crisis. Can you speak from a publishing standpoint how that affects the books in your backlist? What "counts" and what "doesn't?"
>DiDio: It's an interesting question because, ultimately, the backlist is determined by the sales. If you look at Dark Knight Returns, that was never to be part of any continuity, and yet it continues to go. And Killing Joke was never supposed to be part of continuity and yet it came in, and it's still a best-seller.
>The story that were picked and chosen in moving everything forward were integral for the storytelling for what we're planning to do for the future.
>I mean, when you have 75 to 80 years’ worth of publishing behind you, every story can't have the same weight or matter in continuity. Every story cannot be as canon as the others.
>And the ones we're choosing and how we're working forward are the ones that help best to keep the characters moving forward.
>Lee: I think that very same question came up before we did the "New 52." They were saying, "how are we going to sell this trade if it's no longer in continuity?" And I think, at the end of the day, the readers are very bright. They know how to weave this all together, and essentially create their own version of the DC Universe based on what they've read and their favorite stories.
>Like Dan said, the stuff that sells the best or is the most revered tends to rise and dominate the continuity space.
>And if you look at the concept of Rebirth and look at what Geoff has done with the Flash and Green Lantern prior, you see that, it is a sorting through of the past and picking out the elements that are more core and representative of the characters and elevating them and pushing them to the forefront.
>That's not necessarily to rewrite past continuity, but it's really a focusing on what's important going forward.
>Nrama: But you guys know that die-hard fans' heads will explore trying to figure out how one thing fits and the other doesn't. Is that dealt with in upcoming stories? Or is it just left with the idea that continuity got "messed with" and so this is just the way it is?
>DiDio: Things will unravel as we go forward. Some things will be explained and some things will probably be left hanging.
>Nrama: I know we're about out of time. But looking back at my interview with the two of you before Rebirth came out, is there anything you didn't get to say then that, now that people have read Geoff's issue, you can more clearly explain?
>DiDio: I think the immensely positive reaction is self-explanatory.
>Nrama: Aren't you lucky you get to say that?
>DiDio: Yeah, that's the first time I've ever said that! [Laughs.]
>Lee: It was not an easy or light decision to make, but it was gratifying to see that the reaction was very, very positive, not just for the Rebirth special, but for all the Rebirth #1's and the first issues of the books we've had so far.
>What we're seeing online from the fans and what we're hearing from the retailers is that they're embracing it. So it's exciting. We're really pleased with how it's going, and it makes all the hard work worthwhile.
>DiDio: And hard work is the key part right here. The number of hours, the amount of energy, the amount of writing, rewriting, meetings and discussions and work that's going in to building this, the fact that it's being so incredibly well-received, I think, is really just a rewarding feeling for all of us. And we're very excited by the fans, that there were fans out there who felt disenfranchised but now, they're able to come back and try everything again. And we're hoping to hold on to those fans that came on with the "New 52" and feels like this is their version of the DC Universe. There shouldn't be everybody feeling like, "my version." It should be all of our version of the DCU, all of us enjoying the same world, the same characters together, the interpretations.
>And hopefully this direction, this focus from Rebirth out is something that really unites the DC comic fans.
>>83448806
Out on July 6
>>83446239
love this page
>>83445964
So this is Ozymandias, right?
>>83446034
>>83446053
This is the saddest I've ever felt during a comic.
>>83463561
Either that, or Warner really wants to rub in the fact that they own the "Wizard of Oz" movie by having the Wizard himself make an appearance.
>>83463561
I hope so, then Ozy fight Bat and Ozy nearly killed him and thenRorschach saves Batman
>>83463561
>>83464002
could be the wizard Shazam making a joke with the Oz reference
>We're getting a Nite Owl vs Batman fight
place your bets, /co/
>>83464086
Well the entire point of Nite Owl is that he sucks at being a superhero sooo
>>83464086
Nite-Owl is a Blue Beetle analogue, not a Batman one.
>>83464086
my money's on Rorschach beating the ever loving shit out of the Question for stealing his entire gimmick of "crazy paranoid investigator who's been right all along"
>>83464086
no, we're gonna have Dick get dubbed Knight Owl by the court of owls
>>83464208
The Question isn't crazy or paranoid though, unless you count the cartoon version
>>83457969
Fuck off Bruce, we know you balled.
>>83459168
Because she finds it unnatural and wrong? I'm actually kinda hopeful for this, hopefully we'd get a character that has views like that who isn't considered totally evil and acts like a prick all the time and has no redeeming qualities. That shit got boring before it was even a thing.
>>83446361
No he wont and you know it.
>>83464324
The cartoon version is the best version.
So does this all mean DC one million is cannon again?
>>83465057
DC 1,00000O was always a separate parallel universe.
>>83461896
>The launch of the "New 52" is still the single most successful period of time for DC Comics, in sales and storytelling. For us, this is an evolution of that period of time.
That sounds like bullshit. Didn't baby boomers buy a lot more comics?
Is anyone interested in Lex as Superman for Action Comics? Everybody's talking about all the other Super titles except Action. Is it just because Jurgens is on it and it's going to be about Doomsday, again?
>>83464556
Nice shit taste you have.
>>83457825
>Superman: Pic related.
And I wondered what those lights could be.
>>83446632
damn son
>>83465758
>and it's going to be about Doomsday, again?
Mostly this, but yeah the fact that they're saying pFP Superman is the main character also isn't that appealing. I'd be hype if it really was Lex's story like when Cornell was on Action.
>>83461896
>>>One of the things that's interesting in the world today is that there's an inherent negativity and anger and hostility that's all around us. This felt like the right time to shift the sensibilities of the publishing line to actually bring back a counterpoint — a sense of hope and inspiration.
please dont play with my hopes, DC
DC Universe - Rebirth (2016) 001 (Webrip) (The Last Kryptonian-DCP)
http://www83.zippyshare.com/v/US7aYblN/file.html
DC Universe - Rebirth 001 (2016) (4 Covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Drunk Monk)
http://www16.zippyshare.com/v/2zLA75jZ/file.html
>>83445519
After reading Convergence, I think the extra two arrived from alternated Earths. One's Pre-Flashpoint, and another is probably pre-Crisis.
>>83446345
Wait...Why was it in the Batcave? Did Wally drop it or something?
>>83464086
>casual who doesn't read comics detected.
>>83466947
take a look at the bottom panel here >>83445568
notice anyTNK?
Thanks for the read.
>>83467044
So, the speedforce itself like...gave Batman a clue?
>>83467159
I mean, it could be Wally willing for Batman to find out the answer and his own control of the Speed Force obliged in a vague and mysterious way, the way the Speed Force do.
>>83467159
>>83467317
More like it's some nonsense for a "GASP" moment towards the end of the comic. Even though the epilogue did it better.
>>83466797
That's a really good theory. Gold star.
>>83466797
>>83467361
Actually yeah that's a better idea than I came up with.
>>83445615
So....what's up with Donna and Garth anyway?
>>83445842
This old Doctor fate or the new Arab one?
>>83445855
BLAQUALAD
KALDUR
HYPE
>>83445916
Wtf is going on here
>>83446053
>>83446034
>>83446024
>>83446012
))))))))))):
>>83446170
>>83446160
;----;
>>83446201
HYPE
>>83446212
HYPEE
>>83446233
Wait
Barry knows?
>>83446239
HYPE
AS
FUCK
YEA
HYPE
>>83446345
WHAT
>>83467665
It's probably Kent, who recently showed up in the Dr. Fate series. Turns out he and Khalid can sorta "share" the helmet's power, allowing them to both be Fate.
>>83467359
The Speed Force has, for many years, been able to materialize matter out of nothing and also been a font of multiversal knowledge. Wally was the best person at using it. If anyone could pull off that little stunt it'd be Wally.
I mean, it's an asspull, but there's precedence.
>>83445762
Probably slim, but it be interesting to see how justice incarnate would deal with Manhattan given he's not an empty hand type who sits on his ass making preparations for the oblivion machine but so far seems to be ok with vaporizing anyone who poses a threat to him
>>83445890
Why's Manhattan such a stone cold killer here, last I checked he wasn't the murdering type that's ozzys thing
>>83446034
Holy shit that's heart breaking
>>83467945
I think Johns said that fore Rebirth he's working off Morrison's multiverse as it was described in Multiversity.
Still, I don't expect and material to be directly used. Probably just some of the concepts and a nod here or there.
>>83467945
Plus empty might finally have met someone who he has a reason to fear
>>83446239
q_q
>>83447601
Shit, when should I expect the gentry to get here?
>>83468079
Sales are too low on that for it to come up again, I'll wager.
>>83459168
>4chan is known for their conservative views
Huh?
>>83467911
>two fates
Goddamn DC has been so hype the past two years or so whereas marvel has been trash
It's frustrating only one is good at a time but I'm two hype to care
>>83467361
>>83467391
So when did this three joker thing come about? Rebirth?
Three jokers is a great way to hand wave Joker as a character; and how different he can be
>>83468145
If by "great" you mean lame.
>>83468168
I think its fine. It does adequately explain why Snyder's Joker was so different.
>>83468213
We could have just ignored that nonsense. Also it doesn't explain it, because that Joker knew all about early meetings with Batman firsthand.
Is the current Doctor Fate book worth checking out?
>>83468358
No.
>>83468358
Not really.
>>83468227
Three jokers from three different earths would all know batman pretty intimately
>>83457825
Those are spotlights on the ground. That's not even the sky you goof.
So is Rebirth getting a second issue? Is this like an event comic or will everything from now until whenever just be fleshing out from what happened in Rebirth #1 in all their one shots?
>>83468145
Three Jokers is a great way to pander to their customer base that primarily buys Batman and Batman accessories like Harley Quinn.
>>83468485
I think Rebirth is just a one-shot and the one-shots for the new series are setting up the new status quos for them.
>>83468491
I'm not even a batfag and I like the idea of it.
>>83446239
oh thank god, I was afraid DC would Kill off wally again
>>83468622
Just wait 5 or so years when sales go back to normal and they will in DC Debirth.
>>83468538
So do we know what book all this Watchmen stuff is gonna play out in? I get the teases for all the other characters but I can't see where that's gonna payoff in? Justice League?
>>83468737
Dunno. Honestly, this is my first time really getting into Ongoing DC stories. (Read quite a bit of pre Nu52 DC, so I still feel like I'm getting alot out of this book) I imagine if not JL it'd be in an event, possibly.
>>83468737
Wally will be appearing in Titans and it looks lie the story will continue there.
>>83468866
I'm really hoping Titans will be good. I like the team so far, and Abnett's a decent enough writer. Should I go ahead and Read Titans Hunt if I'm interested in that?
>>83457041
>ust noticed that the store I usually buy comics from is selling second printings of Rebirth for 8.8 USD
Are you in the US? How do they get away with that?
>>83468899
Oh my, yes. I wouldn't picture reading Titans without Titans Hunt.
>>83464324
Is it paranoia if you're right?
>>83468908
Nope and no clue, maybe oversea sales can't be regulated by DC or Diamond or whoever usually does that?
>>83469001
Where do you live man? Here in NZ a $2.99 US floppy goes for $7. A bit of a rip off and it's why I stick to trades
>>83469060
I'm sorry, Anon. I wish you got the same prices as us, foreign fans should have decent access to comics, it would be good for the industry.
Well, except for Australians, they're criminals and should pay more.
>>83467680
Why is everybody hyped for him? Cartoonfags?
>>83447085
Dude Wally is like his sonI've seen some fics in Ao3 so I am pretty sure someone has done art too
>>83468917
Is it a good enough read? Probably just gonna pirate it for now and if I like it buy the trade.
>>83446292
What the fuck does Wally know about Darkseid? They've only mildly interacted like twice, and the last time it happened the multiverse was collapsing into him.
>>83445568
I bet Batman isn't gonna ask Barry shit for months.
>>83469925
Yeah, sometimes I found the art a bit lacking, but I actually really enjoyed realizing as it went that Abnett is on a mission to roll back retcons.There's even a bit where Speedy is staring at something that reminds him of a big building with a funny shape, and he just can't quite put his finger on where he saw it...
>>83446073
Who are those two? Robin and Huntress?
>>83447085
>>83464208
>Rorschach beating the ever loving shit out of the Question for stealing his entire gimmick
Rorschach was based on Question (created by Steve Ditko in 1968). Not the other way around.
bumpann
>>83472065
This
>>83470214
Gotham and Gotham Girl.
