>Detective Comics returns to its old numbering with a new concept and creative team in DC Rebirth, with writer James Tynion IV, artist Eddy Barrows, inker Eber Ferreira, and colorist Adriano Lucas joining forces to explore the next generation of Gotham superheroes. The series also sees the return of Batwoman to prominence in the DC Universe, working with Batman to train Red Robin, Spoiler, Orphan (the new codename of former Batgirl Cassandra Cain), and the reformed villain Clayface to take down the rising tide of evil in their city.
>These preview pages of next week’s Detective Comics #934 introduce the Batman family’s new threat, and it’s one that looks a lot like their leader. The creative team does great work building suspense in these pages, and this is easily some of Barrows and Ferreira’s finest work at DC, elevated by Lucas’ bold coloring that amplifies the tension with a strong contrast and warm and cold colors. It’s an exciting action sequence that establishes how dangerous this new Darker Knight is, and there are some especially striking shots of Batman when he hits the scene after the villain has fled. The storytelling is clean and dynamic, and it should make for some thrilling superhero team adventures when Batman and Batwoman get their students together.
Only lettered previews of Action #957, Aquaman Rebirth, and WW Rebirth remain (one of them will be released on CBR by Monday)
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>>83445103
Arts pretty good.
Kinda weird that tynion is using the Arkham Knight story line without Jason being the knight.
I sure as fuck hope we don't get another "villain" out of this. Bat's "associate - list" is already filled too the brim.
>>83445067
Oh, evil copy of Batman? Is it time for Thomas Jr.? Or that weapon-seller guy, Wrath I think his name was?
>>83445240
Afaik the last time we saw Azrael was in Batman Inc. when he gave Bruce the suit of sorrows. Did he turn up in B&R eternal?
>>83445306
He did. As one of soldiers created by Mother and sold to St. Dumas.
>>83445290
At first I thought it would be Jason again but it probably is just going to be clayface judging by the cover
Wait, so if Rebirth "gave back" the ten years that were taken away, then what's Azrael's deal? Did Knightfall still never happen? What about No Man's Land with Cass?
>>83445466
>put together Rebirth to fix the New 52
>continuity is still an absolute fucking mess
>>83445421
Nah, Jason is infiltrating Gotham. With Bizarro, god Lobdell what were you thinking.
I don't know about Clayface... he was heroic in Batwoman. Then again, Snyder's last issue had him in Arkham so fuck everything.
>>83445021
>eddy barrows
why does he still have a job after all those chins?
>>83445466
It hasn't given back anything afaik. It was just a confirmation that somethings were taken and the next few years, the major story will be getting those things back.
>>83445021
>Tynion IV
>>83445513
>Jason and Bizarro
But when are we getting the team-up we really need-Bizarro, Solomon Grundy, and Manbat?
>Eddy Barrows
OK art's good but what the fuck is Barrows doing on a bi-weekly book?
>>83445553
When Grundy leaves Earth 2.
>>83445648
The JSA already has, Grundy will return when Allan does probably
>>83445648
Fine, replace Grundy with Frakenstein. He is, afterall, a Grundyman.
>>83445611
Alvaro Martinez is the other artist.
For twice-monthly books they need more than one artist.
>>83445698
Why do you want Frankenstein ruined forever anon?
>>83445706
I know but it still doesn't explain how he's on bi-weekly book. He can't do monthly schedule, he's off the book 4 issues in. They'll need a lot of fill-ins.
>>83445689
Right, completely forgot about JSA coming back.Hope Abnett will continue writing.
>>83445716
What do you mean? How would that ruin Frankenstein?
Nice art, too bad about Tynion and the eventual return of fan favorite Harper Row.
>>83445103
>You... you did
>>83445763
>return of fan favorite Harper Row.
in book 5.
>>83445797
The second I see her in solicitation, covers or anything else, I'm not even going to bother with this book's storytimes.
>>83445843
Harper Row is cancerous anyway.
>>83445021
>Cassandra has the old mask sans the ears
>still keeps the shitty Orphan outfit
Just make her Batgirl again.
>>83445021
Hmmmmmm. Thomas Wayne Jr? Hes been missing quite awhile now.
>>83445876
She's not as marketable as Barbara
>>83446048
Have Babs actually become Batwoman then and get rid of Kate. She's hardly a "girl" anyway.
>>83446100
Nah, Batgirl needs to be into selfies and instagram. It's hard to do that with a mute assassin.
However, as a compromise, instead of a Chinese Batgirl, you can have a white girl going on a backpacking trip *through China* to ~find herself~
>>83446152
>It's hard to do that with a mute assassin
She hasn't been mute for a long time, man.
>However, as a compromise, instead of a Chinese Batgirl, you can have a white girl going on a backpacking trip *through China* to ~find herself~
Like Babs could actually manage that one.
>>83445513
I'm actually curious to see how Jason will interact with Bizarro.
>>83446216
>you're stupid
>thank you!
>>83446216
Are there any good Bizarro stories besides A-SS?
>>83446328
Forever Evil.
>>83445038
>>83445056
>>83445067
Oh man, I love Azrael.
>>83445876
Give her Jim's Batman costume and give her the full on mask and belt. The fact that Gordon's costume was so good, and it would fit her character so well. But nope. She's wearing basically the same costume from B&RE.
>>83446216
Bizarro will be dependent on Jason like Roy was, Jason will insult Bizarro constantly and Bizarro will think he's complimenting him, and Jason will feel protective over and camaraderie with him but will rarely show it.
>>83446634
But he'll constantly think he good friend Bizarro is.
Fucking Lobdell.
>>83445873
What's wrong with her?
>>83446889
She's a pet OC, great at everything, everyone loves her.
>>83446889
My waifu should be in comics, not her.
>>83445021
>>83445038
>>83445056
>>83445067
>>83445076
>>83445103
Well, the first five pages don't appear to have anything at all to do with the comic's stated concept, nor do they involve any of the main characters. That's the kind of start I expect from Tynion.
There's just no god damn way this isn't a disaster, is there?
>>83445306
Yeah, but that appearance better be ignored
>>83445513
Clayface is supposed to be a good guy in this
>>83445553
Kirk's too good for those losers.
>>83445793
kek
>>83446889
She hasn't been written well by anyone.
They made her this star child everyone immediately loves and respects at first sight, who acts bossy around established heroes and so on.
>>83445021
Damain and Dick are too good for those losers.
>>83446634
Man, I'm really going to miss Jason and Roy being Bros.
>>83447652
I mean considering Tynion wrote a book called "Batman and Robin Eternal" and left Robin out until the very end....yeah, my expectations are not very high
That was weirdly alright. Hyped for the full issue.
>>83445466
>implying any of that shit applies to Batman continuity?
Johns almost ruined everything with the 3 jokers bs
>>83448989
You forget how well Joker sells. The Bat-verse has always played by its own rules as opposed to the rest of DC, but this time it happens to be for the worse.
>>83449064
Given how they turned the plot in Forever Evil into Grayson, I'm confidant they can do something with it.
I think I like the coloring a lot more than the pencils, better than your usual DCfare.
>>83445466
The Rebirth put back stuff like the original Teen Titans, JSA , 3 Jokers, the existence of Wally West.
Batman stuff may be hand waved in but this Detective Comics run is predicated on both Eternals being in continuity, and those volumes introduced the 90s trash that star in this book
So I would expect the portrayls/origins from Eternal to continue to form the base of those characters. But look for this book to bring back the 'classic feel' for those characters.
Tynion is a confirmed 90s-00s nostalgia fag and this book is the culmination of the Batfamily fanfiction he's been writing since then
>>83447744
It won't be. Tynion has stated this will be something of a successor to that.
>>83451800
American comic books are surprisingly hardcore stuff tbqh senpai
>>83452170
That's why I only readmanhwa
>>83448989
I thought the 3 Jokers thing is just more proof that the DC Universe has been fucked with a few times.
>>83451800
>But look for this book to bring back the 'classic feel' for those characters.
So does that mean Tim, Steph, and Cass will get into a threesome together then?
>>83451800
>Tynion is a confirmed 90s-00s nostalgia fag and this book is the culmination of the Batfamily fanfiction he's been writing since then
If he's such a fucking fan of these characters then why did he personally fucking ruin Cassandra's reintroduction with his bullshit retcons?
>>83452060
Fuck.
>>83453124
>So does that mean Tim, Steph, and Cass will get into a threesome together then?
Cass and Steph will lust after him, but Tim will turn them down saving himself for his true loveKon
>heroic Clayface
>not Ethan Bennett
Being a TheBatmanfag is suffering.
>>83453382
Lies! We all know what Tim's true love is for...Jet skis.
Though if both wear Batgirl outfits, Tim's only kink, he's doomed. DOOMED!!!
>>83451800
If we killed Tynion right now, would it be too late to fix 'Tec?
>>83453382
>Damian reaction
>Homoshipping
Get the fuck out of here with that.
>>83446328
>Escape from Bizarro world
>Paktion comics right before truth
>Bizarro comics
>Trinity
>Forever evil
>>83453827
>Paktion comics right before truth
I think that one was full Kuder. Still good though.
>>83453712
It couldn't hurt.
So why Is Tyion considered a bad writer? I don't think I've ever read anything by him that didn't go beyond painfully mediocre
>>83455463
You didn't read Batman and Robin Eternal?
>>83455463
>So why Is Tyion considered a bad writer?
BRE was unbelievably bad. And this comic is supposed to be a direct sequel to BRE.
I have such negative hype for this comic that it's unreal. "Watchmen 2 written by Chuck Austen and drawn by Rob Liefeld" level antihype. I love these characters and I just know he's going to completely ruin them.
>>83454816
>Sam Humphries takes over Detective Comics starting with issue #959
>>83456031
We just have to kill Humphries, too.
>>83455681
No. I have mostly ignoring a lot of the Batman stuff during nu52
>>83456058
>Kate Leth joins the DC Comics Family exclusively to write a year long arc on Detective Comics.
>>83445103
Aquaman preview is out, on newsarama I think
>>83455463
Fans are butthurt that the comic celebrating the 75th Anniversary of Robin turned into a Harper Row story.
It was alright. The art near the end was the true horror show of the comic. Also Tynion IV was on the mark with Batman/TMNT.
>>83456394
>It was alright.
No.
Even if you ignore how the comic failed at its implicit goals, it was also a failure as a story. There is no perspective from which it's okay.
>>83453382
Cass is in a lesbian relationship with fan favorite Harper Row.
>>83456528
Implying everybody isn't just going to die. Detective Comics becomes a Harper Row solo title within five issues.
>>83445021
Thank you
Is Batman Rebirth worth buying or should i just pirate it. Just starting to get into DC ongoings.
>>83456204
Too late for Nrama, because CA has the lettered preview. I will post it together with the Nrama interview with Abnett later
>>83460905
You'll post it now.
>>83461021
Done:
>>83461694
>>83445466
I thought it was just that the characters are now aware of their lives before their reboot, but with none of the consequences. Or was I wrong?
>>83448200
It's not like Batman was in the book very much either. It was just a poorly named mess.
>>83445021
My reaction for Duke as the new sidekick: "oh god not another one"
>>83460099
Only if you are into Duke and superpowered Calendar man
>>83456136
FINE! We just keep killing and build a mountain of corpses until the book is good.
>>83466418
lol
>>83445751
I believe Steve Orlando has expressed interest.
>>83453320
He's writing fanfiction and everyone knows fanfictions need a speacial snowflake OC
>>83445876
I don't get why they bothered naming her Orphan. Black Bat seems to be a perfectly fine codename and one she's used before. But I actually haven't read much of classic Cassandra so maybe there's something wrong with her using that?
>>83460099
Pirate it. It doesn't need the sales and who knows wether you'll enjoy it or not.
>>83470194
There's nothing wrong with Black Bat, but why she would take the codename of her murderous and abusive father, I have no idea.
Why she's wearing a gimp mask is another mystery.
>>83470211
This
>>83470410
Really? That's a mystery?
>>83445498
It's poetry
>>83472383
It rhymes
>>83472364
The bat ears make all the difference in the world.
>>83446152
>selfies and instagram
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>83470410
Well at the end of her New 52 Origin, he does sacrifice himself to save her.
But still.
>>83476854
He was still a giant shit compared to pre-FP Cain, and that is saying something.
>>83453320
He reintroduced her and used her. This after almost a decade where DC editorial has actively discourage people including their a-listers (Snyder and Morrison) from touching the character and trying their hardest to make her a villain.
