How powerful is this guy in the MCU?
Could he beat Black Widow? Hawkeye?
How would he fare against Captain America or Black Panther?
>>83425908
> ez win vs black widow
>hard win vs hawkeye (has to limp back to his apartment and losses consciousness
> hard loss vs captain hydra (MCU cap is near superhuman with jet li movies lol)
>hard loss vs black panther (same reasoning as cap)
>>83425908
Punisher has a better chance than him.
>>83425908
He's about Black Widow/Hawkeye-tier, yeah. Good hand-to-hand fighter, but definitely not Cap or BP levels of fighting skill.
>>83425908
He'd lose to all of them. Black Widow and Hawkeye clean the floor with grunts, but Daredevil can't put them down with single blows. Cap and Black Panther are superhumans, they'd destroy him.
He's still a pivotal character. His ability to win in a fight really doesn't account for how important Murdock is.
Also
He's a perfect Hell's Kitchen hero. Street level.
>>83426104
This inconsistency is just due to time restraints imo. You have less time in a movie so just have the extras not get back up lol. In a show you have way more time- 12 fucking 1 hr episodes) so as a director you can play with the fights more.
>>83426237
Exactly
Hes beaten everyone hes come across, starting to show how hes beating even the supernatural stuff.
Not to mention his powers. Arrows or shields will not work against him at all.
>>83425908
Depends on who's writing but the tone of his show is too different from the movies.
He's a character who's allowed to actually be hurt and beaten.
BW and Hawkeye are the only ones who he's even comparable to, and they're typical action heroes who can take out mooks without even being touched.
So no he can't touch any of them because even when he's taking on a bunch of low class thugs he gets hurt doing it.
>>83425908
If he wasn't a bitch faggot and actually finished his ninja training he'd beat down Black Widow and Hawkeye without breaking a sweat instead of struggling to win. He'd have the fight of his life taking down Black Panther or Cap, hundred to one shot of actually winning and even if he did he'd be limping off. Comics Daredevil is a much more polished and accomplished fighter.
I just want to see him and Spider-Man team up
>>83425908
Cap would rape his blind ass.
Didnt Clint beat Matt one time in the comics?
>>83427538
In Waid's run Matt recounts the fight. Clint uses Solar Flare Arrow and it takes Matt a second to realize what happened. He then overreacts and gets punched out.
>>83426237
I agree with this, if he ever makes it into the movies I would assume they would buff him a little so that he at least matches the other normies.
>>83427288
That's a team up I wanna see as well, they need to fix DD's costume first.
He needed help to defeat a fat autist. Clint could run circles around him.
DD's show is bad and overrated. You should feel bad for liking it.
>>83429604
Yeah its like really good idk what you're even comparing it to
>>83430377
It's a more of a thriller than a story.
>>83428302
I thought the S2 costume was great.
>>83430569
Mask looks like shit.
Plus I wouldn't think it would fit in to a Spidey team up with Spidey's bright costume
>>83425908
>Black Widow
I'd say even matchup assuming he can dodge her taser rounds, tough to guess.
>Hawkeye
I bet his super senses let him dodge the arrows. Once it's a close quarters fight it's Matt's game.
>Black Panther
I doubt there's much Matt's nunchucks can do to Vibranium armor. T'Challa wins that one.
>Cap
He may be able to dodge the shield, but once Cap closes in, Cap wins
>>83426012
>captain hydra
MCU Cap isn't Hydra. He's the last best Captain America out there. So leave the comics out of the MCU.
>>83425908
DD knocks out the lights and he wins, otherwise he'd get wrecked.
>>83431036
In Season 1, yes. They fixed it in Season 2.
>>83425908
>Black Widow
Only one he has a chance against, and even did The Slut's electric stingers give her the win most of the time.
>Hawkeye
In close range Blindman has a better chance then against The Slut, but at mid range Hawkguy's arrows will fuck him up. Way out of his paygrade there.
>Captain America
>Black Panther
Nah, not happening. Too big a difference. He'd be lucky to put up the same fight that Hawkguy did in Civil War.
>>83431312
No, he is Caotain Hydra too.
it seems like he's been getting stronger from season to season
Daredevil has small muscles.
>>83427219
Nothing Matt could do would allow him to win against Black Panther. He's wearing a suit of vibranium and has super human abilities. Even if by some miracle or DD super senses and ninja training DD was able to hit Black Panther, his batons would do jack shit against BP's suit.
>>83426026
He could easily frank them all minus thor and hulk
>>83426037
Cap isn't more skilled than DD in MCU. He's just got super human abilities.
>>83425908
Depends. Are the lights on, or off?
>>83432769
Clint's arrows aren't stronger or faster than other arrows, just more accurate and Matt has shown that he can dodge and and grab arrows mid air before.
>>83436982
he's got em where it matters
I'd say DD beats both Robin Hood and The Slut
He beats them all if they are fighting in a hallway.
>>83439753
MCU Daredevils real superpower is hallway manipulation
>>83425908
Black Widow could beat himoff
>>83432915
I think all those memes have cut off your brains connection to it's common sense, let me spell it out for you.
>Comics Cap is now Captain Hydra
>Movie Cap is not (unless Marvel does some sort of stupid retcon to keep the MCU in line with the comics, or hires Hack Snyder.)
This is all head cannon unless they ever meet but:
>only slightly less skilled/powerful than Black Widow and Hawkeye. Had a chance to beat either of them under favourable circumstances.
>would get rickety-fucking-wrecked by Cap, Panther or any other enhanced.
>>83425908
For what it's worth, I think Batman has nothing on him.
Nuke didn't die did he? Nuke vs DD when?
>>83425908
He'd get wrecked by everyone.
Every Avenger's pretty much superhuman. Cap can stand toe to toe with Ironman. T'challa's apparently on that level as well.
In theory, BW and HE are human, but in practice, given that they can take out aliens and robots, they've exhibited strength, durability, stamina etc beyond human levels.
DD's a tough mutha' and once he gets his armored costume, he gets a lot tougher. But his super senses don't give him nearly the advantage they give him in the comics and he's just plain physically outmatched, even against BW.
>>83439622
Literally any trick arrow would kill him, fuck off.
Not to mention Clint was able to get close enough in combat with panther to get his bow on his throat. Superhuman panther...naw Clint wins
>>83439736
I'd say you are ignorant of the facts shown.
>>83439622
Yeah, DD can grab the arrow from mid-air, just like Loki did in Avengers.
How long would Luke last against the Avengers?
>>83442730
We know how that turned out
>>83442858
Hawkeye uses the arrow that either took out a bunker in AOU or blew a hole in the Helicarrier and hits him square in his black dome.
Luke is knocked clean the fuck out. Hell this version would probably die from his brain turning to mush from the concussive force
DD could maybe beat Hawkeye or Widow. He'd be hard pressed to beat Panther, and he'd probably lose to cap, but that would be one hell of a fightthat we'll probably never get to see.
>>83441007
only the fact that Batman is a much more skilled fighter and a master in any martial art?
>>83443142
It's always hilarious when I read this. "Batman has mastered all martial arts" even though he started being Batman in his late twenties. Hey; a punch is a punch is a punch, right?
>>83440908
underrated
>>83439806
Then who would win in a fight between Oldboy and Daredevil?
>>83443538
started his run as batman when he was 25
Trained up until then.
I know it's not realistic, but hey... comics, man
>>83443032
implying Cap is superior to BP
they were tied, anon
>>83426012
This post is fucking disgusting
Nom MCU cap is powered too and is a master martial artist casual
>>83442676
see
>>83426237
>>83425908
>How would he fare against Captain America or Black Panther?
Are you serious?
>>83425908
If he was in an Avengers film he'd get a big boost in how skilled at fighting he is.
The reason he has more trouble with thugs than Black Widow and Hawkeye is entirely tonal; it lends itself better to the gritty tone the series cultivates than if he just waltzed through them like they were nothing.
>>83425908
Daredevil is pretty low on the MCU totem pole. Even among his netflix fellows Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist and maybe moonknight he'd probably not win against them.
>>83442730
>>83442861
>Implying he wouldn't smell the cordite charge and knock it out of the way with his batons rather than grabbing it.
>>83444944
>implying he knows what it smells like
Has he had any experience with explosives so far? Has he even sniffed anything out? I recall him tracking that chinese blind lady in S1, but he was using his hearing
>>83444926
Feats are feats. Tonal or not. He would have died very quickly in Sokovia
>>83425908
He's one if the better martial artist but it depends on the writer.
>>83444944
>reaching this hard
Either way, the blast radius would still kill him if he batted it away. Especially the bunker buster
>>83445054
>Feats are feats
And fiction is fiction.
If someone was writing Daredevil fighting alongside the Avengers in Sokovia, they'd have him fighting much more effectively.
>>83440952
He's remarking on the fact that Stan Lee himself said that Marvel Studios will probably do it.
>>83437221
Does MCU Thor have hard skin?
>>83425908
>Daredevil
>MCU
>>83440952
Why are you being so anal over a joke?Bucky?
>>83445101
His nemesis is Bullseye-- Hawkeye is a kiddie-pool swimmer compared to him.
>>83445538
We arent talking comics dumbass, and nice deflection of the point made. Matt loses hard
>>83445161
Unfortunately feats are all we have to go on and based on feats he would have died against the first drone he encountered lel
Widow would steamroll everyone DD has faced. Kingpin included
>>83428349
I want to see Fisk completely manhandle and crush MCU Nat.
>>83443032
>that we'll probably never get to see
Neither will Matt.
>>83443142
>>83443538
DCEU Batfleck? Sure.
NolanBats? He would lose so hard to Matt.
>>83443597
>Oldboy
Thanos, of course.
>>83445203
I wonder what would happen if/when Frank sends a .50cal round into Thor's pupil. Is he like Supes or does he have soft, squishy entry points?
>>83444932
>Netflix
>Moon Knight
Nigga what?
>>83425908
He regularly beats Deadpool, who is better than Taskmaster, so that puts him pretty much at superhuman levels of combat skill.
>>83451735
He said mcu dumbass. Read the fucking thread
>>83450219
Thor's eyes don't explode when beings like Kruse or Hulk wack at it. And they doesn't vaporize when then bifrost or sokovia blow up point blank in his face
>>83453854
Kurse*
>>83425908
He could beat Black Widow and Hawkeye easily.
If he fought Cap he could probably dodge quite a few of his attacks but Cap is stronger than DD could possibly even imagine compared to what he has fought previously and Cap is beyond skilled enough to hit Daredevil fairly quickly. He could last for a little bit but he doesnt have a shred of a chance of beating Cap.
Jessica Jones couldnt beat anybody.
Luke Cage maybe MAYBE could beat Black Widow.
Punisher has basically the same chances against MCU avengers as Daredevil.
>>83425908
If I had any skill with Photoshop, I'd shop a set of drums into that pic.
Daredevil would do well against Widow and Clint, and any normal fighter, but Cap, Panther, and Spider Man would kick his ass
>>83456183
I don't have any skill with photoshop
>>83426037
Captain America, Winter Soldier and Black Panther are outright superhumans in MCU, they would easily destroy Daredevil in combat.
>>83445181
Stan Lee doesn't have input anymore
The show is being really inconsistent with his powers. So the hand have no heartbeat, any other ambient sound should reveal them to his echolocation.
>>83456584
It's ninjas, dude, they don't follow the laws of physics.
That's writing 101.
>>83456601
I'm trying to find a way to refute this and I can't
Daredevil could probably beat Hawkeye because he's capable of beating Bullseye.
Ok, so Daredevil can beat most non-superhumans.
>>83451735
You retarded or something? We are talking about MCU. And even if this was 616, Deadpool wasn't even attempting to defeat Daredevil during their confrontation. Just stall and get away from him some that he can kill the bastard that he needed to kill.
>>83439574
>Cap isn't more skilled than DD in MCU. He's just got super human abilities.
Define "skill", simple maneuvers don't preclude skill.
