Today's comic didn't have a proper thread.
>>83397537
Fucking hillside drivers.
Confused Query: Is it just me or the mouse meat bag seem to have a flip switch on sanity when it comes to chaos or stress and it flips when there isn't a fight or flight response present?
Hey guys, sorry I have not been update posting this week, honestly I've just been mulling about arranging art assests to send off to the publisher.
I've also been sketching out remaking he skill system to be 1d100+stat+skill level. Each skill will correspond for a stat, each skill level will have a number threshold that you must roll over. In this sense, combat and skills will work in the same roll.
But yeah, things are getting to a critical juncture in the development. If there was ever a time for stupid ideas to be proposed and thrown in the game it would probably be now.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9zUbKbVjWUBcTRWdDZqaTN1bXc/view?usp=drivesdk
[email protected]
>>83398003
Yes. She seems to panic after the fact.
>>83398323
hey man
I suppose the only recommendation I'd have is a proper character sheet. Like with the list of skills and their levels, character name, age, race, size, etc.
>>83397537
Not sure why she's so upset. I mean, they're alive right? They just need to head over to that H&H and have a cup of joe.
>>83397582
Glad they got nuked.
Beardchef could still be alright, r-right?
>>83401302
A-anon...
I'm so sorry.
>>83401302
They will live in our hearts
Page 9 bump
>>83397537
m Ouse pussy smell
>>83397537
Seems like Holly is paying a visit to the dentist in the first panel.
>>83403509
Uhh..okay?
>>83399461
There are character sheets, actually.
Made by one of the players.
>>83401302
If Indiana Jones can survive an explosion inside a fridge, beard chef can survive an explosion by running into a walk in freezer.
And it looks like Doc is about to take a protagonist role while Holly remains unhinged.
>>83404471
>And it looks like Doc is about to take a protagonist role while Holly remains unhinged
That sounds nice, Doc is character that easily could lead his own arc, to move a bit the thread: What other characters would you like to see to have their own arc? Mallard can be a obvious one, maybe Petey too or maybe the guy who owns the Endtown's bar listening to the histories that the people has to share him.
>>83404471
We need to e-mail Aaron and see if any of the three survived, and if we'll ever see them again.
>>83398323
You've got your own page on the /tg/ wiki, feel free to edit it. I think the rules there are a really old version.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Endtown_RPG
>>83399461
It's the last two pages.I can't post pdfs on /co/ so here is an old png version.
We have had it for like months now.
>>83405673
Yeah, probably should do that.
>>83397537
These action pages are great but kinda difficult to make for discussion.
>>83405790
But you can't say that they are not amanzing, just imagine seeing this animated. Something tells me that we won't see any discussion until Monday when things calm downfor the moment
>>83405749
Here are the most recent versions
>>83406856
>>83405851
What I'm really curious about is how Holly and Chase go from here to Endtown. Do they just find a hole that leads there? Is there some magical bus that takes them? Are they going to be thrown in a death camp first?
>>83406856
>>83406865
This will come in handy
>>83398003
I think you might be onto something here, anon
>>83405851
>>83397537
Kind of easy to forget this is all an illusion
>>83410583
Not all of it
>>83410666
Don't remind us Satan.
They were talking about their feelings right?
>>83411372
The only thing Wally knows for sure is real isDAT ASS!
>>83397537
what is is with lizard mutants being promiscuous whores?
Not even a week after becoming one, Sarah goes from "Promise me you will never leave me, Jim" to this.
Looking at her and Kirbee, it seems like it comes with being a lizard.
>>83411703
>>83411736
some one need's to draw jim doing this...
>>83411798
>need's
that fuck is wrong with me
>>83411703
Sarah was a huge bitch willing to toss people aside for her goals.
Kirbee just lost everyone she knew and her home, in addition to narrowly escaping death. Sometimes that makes people do weird things anon.
>>83411810
Anon! what are you doing!
>>83411703
They're kind of polar opposites.
>>83411798
>>83411810
She also now knows that Holly doesn't deserve someone like Wally. And likely won't want to see him go the same way as Lyn.
>>83411897
>Walt: Hey jim! heard you like fishing!
>>83411924
i'm a kirbeefag and this is stale bait, steer clear.
>>83397537
To be fair, running and screaming seems like a REALLY good idea under the circumstances.
>>83411810
>Kirbee just lost everyone she knew and her home, in addition to narrowly escaping death.
She sure seems bothered by it.
>>83411958
Except for the likelihood of triggering even more buddibombs from people freaked out by the shrieking, bloodsoaked mutant running towards them.
>>83411703
Aaron flat out stated that mutants suffer from cartoon animal tropes, Holly and her cheese addiction, Jim gathering trash and so on.
He has also gone on to say that lizards are considered "cold-blooded" and mentions the reptile brain. Kirbee could be dumb because lizards are so simple-minded. The cannibalism comes from lizard habits as well. Kirbee may not be an apparent sociopath cannibal, but perhaps she could instinctively eat Chick/Holly/Irving out of nowhere and get over it in an hour.
Does anyone else think part of her losing her shit recently was partly due to her miscarrying during the milk trial?
>>83412426
That's a misconception, she wasn't pregnant then.
>>83412426
hello gocomics
>>83412426
Yeah, Aaron covered that; Holly wasn't pregnant during the Milk Trial.
>>83412426
She was having a flashback to fish baby.
I'm sure if she was pregnant the baby would have been brought on separate charges.
>>83397537
>>83412684
I never read the comments, i was on endtown.com till the unity arc. I should follow the author though and see what he's saying.
>>83413182
don't go to the gocomic's comment section unless you want to drop a few braincells
>>83412082
Lizards aren't typically characterized as simple minded. Most often it's vicious and ruthless, underhanded even.
So I imagine Kirbee must have been a walking drama crisis before that whole cold-blooded thing kicked in.
>>83413227
>So I imagine Kirbee must have been a walking drama crisis before that whole cold-blooded thing kicked in.
well everyone has had it rough, i want to see what kirbee story's all about.
>>83413268
She was a country ditz from goddamn drakesville. I don't know if it's official but some of Aaron's concept art had Mallard being from Drakesville as well.
>>83410666
>Holly is having a psychological break and needs help
>Wally macks on the nearest woman while the woman that loves him is being driven insane
Way to go Wally.
>>83413340
Yeah this is so out of left field.
>>83413340
Like >>83413773 shows, is not entirely Wally's fault he's just feeling the pression of not being loved anymore by the woman he loves. This reminds me more or less of the same situation that James Sunderland suffers in Silent HIll 2: he loved his wife, but her sickness change her into a different person that it was hard for him to loved her anymore.
>>83414054
This
>>83411736
Go home Jim God, you're drunk.
>>83413340
Wally didn't make any moves on Kirbee. She ends up kissing him both times they did. He could let her down and say he's taken. But fuck Holly, she's worst than Hitler.
>>83414274
No way, baby!
>>83413227
based on what we have come to see from Endtown, Kirbee has done something horrible to be as opposite of evil as she is now.
>>83414391
That Sarah Battle is such a sweet girl, I just don't know what she sees in that hotrod hooligan Jim, he's nothing but trouble!
>>83414326
>But fuck Holly, she's worst that Hitler
Well memed kiddo
>>83414326
>worse than Hitler
>not as bad as your spelling
>>83414541
Anon, you want this thread to derail into another grammar discussion?
>>83414326
They say an argument is over the moment someone makes a comparison of their opposition to Nazis or Hitler. Said person who made the comparison is said to have lost the argument.
Case in point.
>>83414575
Nah Daddy-O, I'm just here to race!
>>83414633
Endtown has cars right? What ifsometimes they organize secret races a la Fast and Furious?
>>83414851
>>83414851
>Endtown has cars right? What if sometimes they organize secret races a la Fast and Furious?
Endtown itself has cars, yes. We saw an ambulance and a ratmobile
>>83414851
Better question,do used-to-be criminals collect cars, gasoline, and parts in order to do raids throughout the wastes? Eventually they build a society of criminals and thugs who run rampant in their own section of the wastes, but look to expand their territories.
>>83414944
>Krupp
Isn't that the same brand as the incinerator whe see before the current page?
>>83415114
>>83414944
>Krupp
>>83416106
>requesting Jim as Capt. Underpants
>>83414992
Requesting Wally as Kenshiro
>>83415114
>>83416106
>Krupp
I suggest we let this thread die so tomorrow's update can actually have a proper thread and not half of this one then half of other.
>>83414326
>Wally didn't make any moves on Kirbee.
he's holding her head as they kiss... i wants the cloaca anon.
>>83418466
>he*
>>83418466
>>83418805
Freudian slip?
>>83413227
Isn't the reptile brain is the seat of lust, though? It sounded like the lizards were pretty into "free love", at least. Feels like Kirbee may not have hangups about promiscuity or polygamy, which is perhaps why she instigates this stuff.
I wonder if the love triangle will eventually turn into a three-way relationship, if Holly and Wally can accept that? Another mixed-up novelty in a new world...
Or, perhaps, Wally will eventually see her doing the same thing for someone else she feels sorry for and then realise Kirbee's love is a bit more impersonal than he thought, even if there is a kind intent behind it.
>>83419458
>which is perhaps why she instigates this stuff.
does she?
>I wonder if the love triangle will eventually turn into a three-way relationship
that's highly unlikely, i don't think it will go beyond those kisses to be honest, which is a bummer for me, not because i do ship Kirbee and Wally, but because the whole thing would feel completely unnecessary at the end, like some kind of filler drama.
>Wally will eventually see her doing the same thing for someone else she feels sorry for.
only that she doesn't love him out of pity, but because he saved her life from unity, which is probably a lot fucking more than anyone has ever done for her since she became a lizard.
>>83419745
>does she?
Well, the first time, even though she knew he was in a relationship. The second time Wally was an equal participant as far as we can tell - there's a long shot, and then in the next they were kissing again, if memory serves. That's what I'm saying, though, I think the free love thing let her initiate the relationship and while she does care for Wally, there's a chance he might be in for a bit of a surprise when it comes to how she views their relationship, or even romance in general.
>>83420165
I agree with the first time, i guess she couldn't help herself to thank him for saving him, but the second time in which she prevented him from jumping into the portal was obviously an move out of fear, she didn't want him to die, and the third, well... i guess they just let their feeling loose for a little while.
>>83419458
>Isn't the reptile brain is the seat of lust, though?
that's poetry, not biology
>>83420165
Well yeah. She has clearly seen that Wally loves Holly, yet she courts him all the same. What kind of "exceptionally nice person" would even harbor the thought of doing something like that to anybody? Unless she is being vindictive towards Holly for yelling at her, in which case she is most certainly not all sunshine and rainbows as some would like to think.
>>83420714
Ah, I forgot about the portal-jumping instance, my bad.
I didn't address the sympathy vs hero-worship bit either: I think it started with hero-worship with a side order of "Cheer up, little dude" (>>83420165), but deepened on the sympathetic side of things when she saw more of how his relationship with Holly was going. I recall feeling that there was just something in that look she gave him when they were flying...
For the record, I hope he can help Holly and patch things up with her (though I don't think the Holly that emerges from this will be the one he fell in love with, either...), but I don't think Kirbee is bad or disingenuous in any way.
>>83420958
You mean, akin to cartoon logic?
>>83419458
>>83421129
>vindictive towards Holly for yelling at her
hahaha that's silly but funny if it turns out to be true, "HAHA! I TOOK YOUR MAN FOR BEING MEAN TO ME!"
>>83421153
>I hope he can help Holly and patch things up with her
he will try for sure, it;s all up to holly at this point.
>I don't think the Holly that emerges from this will be the one he fell in love with, either...
or the Holly who fell in love with him on the first place, there's a theory that Holly baby projected into Wally from the beginning, if she some how gets cured and gets over her baby trauma, does it mean that she will still love wally? if she actually truly loved him in the first place...
>>83421267>>>/trash/2987522
>>83421267
>>83421355
It's good to bethe Jim
>>83421355
>there's a theory that Holly baby projected into Wally from the beginning
You're right, I'd forgotten that she found him in pretty rough shape.
>>83421355
>or the Holly who fell in love with him on the first place, there's a theory that Holly baby projected into Wally from the beginning, if she some how gets cured and gets over her baby trauma, does it mean that she will still love wally? if she actually truly loved him in the first place...
If she didn't really love him and it was all some fucked-up maternal-instinct-mistaken-for-romance issue (is there a word for that?), then yes, I would expect their relationship to fail, at least in terms of romance. Any remaining friendship would probably be harmed by the fact that Wally would likely still love her romantically on some level, too.
On the other hand, if there is real love there then the removal of any baby-substituting behaviours might allow their relationship to deepen.
I wonder if Holly would take Wally's surname if they decided to get hitched, or would she feel like that was a betrayal of Lyn?
>>83421580
Reminds me that there's a parallel between her and Kirbee's "spark" for him in that he acted the hero both times.
>>83422033
Taking Wally's surname would be a good way to finally detach from the pain of the past. Then again, she might not want to forget about Lyn because he did genuinely care about her. I dunno, that's just my own opinion.
>>83422033
>I wonder if Holly would take Wally's surname if they decided to get hitched, or would she feel like that was a betrayal of Lyn?
Or maybe Wally will take Holly's surname, after all her husband was Lyn Hollister.
>>83425167
because hollister is lyn's surname... we don't know holly's real surname though.
>>83425258
>because hollister is lyn's surname...
It was? sorry for the confusion then.
>>83425332
well, to be honest, we don't know for sure. but it would make sense for holly to keep her husbands surname even after his death... specially since she loved him, which i dont doubt she did even though she was kind of a bitch to him sometimes.
>>83425424
>which i dont doubt she did even though she was kind of a bitch to him sometimes.
So she was a normal wife
>>83425477
>So she was a normal wife
>>83425167
It's difficult to tell whether Neitherland has some odd naming practices going on that lead to frequent alliterative names (and therefore Holly being Holly Hollister even after marriage might be significant), or if that's 100% Aaron's love of such naming schemes and will never be remarked upon in-story.
>>83425477
>>83425626
>>83421192
>>83419745
>>83419458
I've asked Aaron a similar and he sent this.
At first I understood but now it feels like I don't.
>>83426342
I think he's saying that depending in the stereotype of the animal in your country of origin the cartoon logic your animal follow.
>once I drop a few more red pills into the narrative water supply
Is he saying that the rats are related to the water supply in Endtown or is he talking in a meta point of view?
>>83426796
>Is he saying that the rats are related to the water supply in Endtown or is he talking in a meta point of view?
i think he means hints in the story...
>>83426342
Sounds like he's saying you turn into the creature which most matches your personality, as filtered through the stereotypes of the people around you rather than your own?
So a noble and brave person who came from a culture where creature A is noble and brave and creature B is cowardly and sly would become creature A. If, however, they came from a culture where creature A is vicious and predatory and creature B is noble and brave, then they'd become creature B instead.
There's also the way that anthro mutations influence their victims, though. Jim may have developed a looting habit and Holly definitely got addicted to cheese, for instance. So the more important take away, perhaps, is that if Holly had come from a country where the Mice Love Cheese stereotype was not in effect but where the people were largely aware that you can catch mice with peanut butter, she might have had a craving for that, instead.
This also puts paid to my own private line of speculation that ordinary animals in the Endtown world were actually cartoon stereotypes themselves and the "Cartoon Logic" thing had nothing to do with the minds of the victims.
>>83426342
>red pills into the narrative water supply
Something that the story has so far lead us to believe, isn't actually true. He's said "most rats are not proper mutants", I believe, which to me suggests that there's a couple of humans who became some manner of rat, but the security rats are something else.
Random ideas, new and old:
>The rats have always been like this in the Endtown universe, it's just gone unremarked until now because everyone found it normal.
>The rats were created by someone as the original caretakers of Endtown, and had already been there for years when the anthros and Typhoid Maries showed up.
>The rats are what nonhuman primates turn into when exposed to the virus.
>The rats are the result of experiments on lab rats to find a cure for the virus (Mallard?).
>>83426872
That or anti-PC statements.
>>83427033
>Holly definitely got addicted to cheese
I still think that is partially a reaction to being lactose intolerant.
>>83428531
this.
i strongly believe is the fact that she can now taste what she has been missing all this time.i pity lactose intolerant people.
>>83426342
That is a very good question to have asked.
I guess most dino mutants wouldn't have feathers then, due to most people growing up learning about featherless dinos.
>>83428531
>>83428724
Now I am picturing Holly in Endtown, eating all the cheese that she can find cover with melted cheese while saying: "This is life"
>>83429201
not exactly the same but...
>>83429201
A piece of cheese kindly left for her at the top of the stairs in the clocktower will be the first step on the road to recovery once she reaches Endtown.
>>83428833
literally impossible to not try to peek under her skirt.
>>83428491
>all along Endtown was an anti-feminist story
>>83429561
let's not go there, last thing we need is a triggered feminazi doxxing Aaron...
>>83429632
>like that would stop them
>>83429561
Well, the comic takes place in a retro-futuristic 50's so maybe some characters show the opinions and attitudes of that time.
>>83429357
Anon, no
no lewd here.
>>83429943
>no lewd here.
What's the matter anon?, you don't like fun?
>>83429201
>>83430167
cute!
>>83430167
That's adorable
>>83430167
>Lactose intolerants will never experience this
>>83427341
>>The rats are the result of experiments on lab rats to find a cure for the virus (Mallard?).
Mallard used to run Endtown before the council was instituted, right? I'm not misremembering that? Then perhaps another "narrative red pill" will be the revelation that Mallard has somehow rigged Endtown's security team to always be ultimately loyal to him so that Endtown is never entirely out of his control. I mean, would a genius like him (mentally agile, strong-willed, crafty and canny, not your stereotypical absent-minded professor) really cede control in a way that allowed people to potentially fuck up everything he had built or was working on? He just hasn't played that card yet because once he does it'll change everything...
>>83430768
>He just hasn't played that card yet because once he does it'll change everything...
that would have been a very dick move if you keep in mind what holy, maude and linda went though
>>83430835
Which did resolve itself in the end, albeit somewhat unpleasantly and with a promise of a political upheaval. Not necessarily something to reveal your "secret once-off emergency tyrant powers" over; I'm imagining that would be more a matter of immediate life or death for the whole colony.
>>83431005
Shit, was working on posting a note with that comic before I decided to reply to (>>83430835
), sorry folks.
Anyway, I noticed that that much older comic has the start of the mutagenic plague being a year before the bombs fell. Retconned, or was it a really slow burn while the "virus" built up strength/infectiousness/mana/whatever?
>>83430835
If Mallard really has the total control of the rats, he would take action in a way that he looks like "the saviour of Endtown" than the dictator that takes the control againts everyone's will.
>>83431048
>Anyway, I noticed that that much older comic has the start of the mutagenic plague being a year before the bombs fell. Retconned, or was it a really slow burn while the "virus" built up strength/infectiousness/mana/whatever
IIRC, WWIII began because the Neitherlands couldn't content the infection, so I suppose that the virus spread for almost a year before reach a global scale.
>>83428833
Jeez DK, can you make anything non-cute immensely dawwable and cuddly?
Seriously, you did dinosaurs, monster-mutants, fucking Skaven twice, made them look cute. Is there any ugly animal or thing you can't make adorable?
>>83432456you
but yeah, DK is top-tier cute maker
>>83432500
Got me there.
>>83431005
>It's been five years since WW3, six since the mutagenic outbreak
Huh, guess I missed that. So everyone was living as looney tunes and fighting Cthulhu monsters for a year before everything got obliterated?
>>83432689
>So everyone was living as looney tunes and fighting Cthulhu monsters for a year before everything got obliterated?
Everyone was living out their daily lives, listening to horrible stories about monsters appearing in cities and towns.
Those who turned into anthros were most likely kidnapped and sent straight to APEX labs.
>>83432760
Exactly, it was not until the problem couldn't be hiden anymore (like we see now with Holly) that things went down
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WydLJLR.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>83431005
>"secret once-off emergency tyrant powers"
I for one would like to see Mallard's final form.
Although really if he wanted control of the rats then he'd just have to pen a line about him having authority in their rule book. Remember, these guys had Wally and Holly attacked for being terrorists when it was their idea to make them act like terrorists.
>>83432760
Also helped that the best selling gizmo at the time, the buddibomb, would immediately attack any nearby mutants.
So there was a good chance that any high profile mutation would be a smoking crater within minutes. At the very least it would cut down on witnesses. Look at>>83397537 that was for just one mutant.
>>83397537
It's like poetry, it rhymes
>>83433272
The rats are dumb, no question, but if I was a genius I'd go with something that couldn't be countered with a bottle of Tippex. Like... zombie-soldier brain chips... or something parasciencey. I dunno, *I'm* not a genius.
>>83433456
that pages pisses me so much, thanks a lot anon...
>>83433272
>Remember, these guys had Wally and Holly attacked for being terrorists when it was their idea to make them act like terrorists.
All the rats except for his sergeant seems to be really dumb so yeah it woudn't be so hard for Mallard to gain control on them.
Now that you mention the fact that the rats attacked Wally and Holly by believing that they were terrorists, could that affect their comeback to Endtown? if the rats still consider them terrorists I doubt that they can put a foot back since the rats shoot everything in sight.
>>83433494
Considering how Holly never wants to come back, I'd say that's a moot point luckily. She'll probably mess endtown up if she had to come back.
>>83434753
Did you mean to quote >>83433938 ?
bumpjng with some nice colors from Selina.
>>83436122
Nice, but we shouldn't let this thread die so we can start with a new one tomorrow?
