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So is Jocelyne ever actually going to be revealed, or are is Willis just going to keep hinting to it and never actually do anything about it?
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>>83367709
I can't imagine caring.
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How long till sjwillis completely ruins Joyce?
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>>83368083
It already happened
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>>83368083
>acting as if he already hasn't
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>>83368083
Somewhere around October last year.

http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/escalate/
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No no no, anons.
You know what I mean.
Getting that fucking haircut and sex with becky.
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Why does Willis insist on already stating that her brother is trans before it's even a thing in the comic? Doesn't he realize a new reader is going to be confused?
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>>83368768
SJW brownie points
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In recent threads, we discovered a female character with blue hair that looks just like Willis.

I found another one with samehair syndrome: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/endupgay/
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>>83368928
Crap, I forgot to make sure it became a clickable link

http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/endupgay/
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>>83368950
Curses. I am too tired for this. FML.
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>>83367709
Joyce's mum is going to drop kick her when she gets back. And force Becky to not watch.
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>>83368768
I thought Joyce's brother was gay. Regardless, I think Willis enjoys weird, supplementary material-based irony, like with Carla being transgender.
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>>83368950
I think that's the same character. She dyed her hair.
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>>83367709
Is anybody going to mention how fucked up the perspective in panel five is?
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>>83368364

someone should storytime its walky

it was dorky and it was silly and it was childish but at least it was unpozzed
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>>83370543
nobody really cares
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>>83370543
obviously he had a babyhand in the entire comic before this moment and you just didnt notice
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>>83371136
I agree, but we should wait until he's uploaded the rest of it in high quality.
http://www.itswalky.com/
Currently we're a third of the way into Book 2.
We could do a story-time of 'Roomies', though.
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>>83371199
>It's walky started in 2000
>Roomies started in 1997
>Willis has been making comics for 19 years
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>>83371136
>>83371199
>Currently we're a third of the way into Book 2.
In that case, I'm requesting a storytime of Book 1.
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>>83371244

Thank you for making doubles great again.
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>>83371272
>I was 6 years old when willis started making comics
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>>83368768
There are more trannies in this comic than in all of Indiana.
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Goddamn, the people who post there are human garbage. Willis is a fucking tyrannical babyman.

You hear me Willis? BABY. MAN.

WITH A FULL DIAPER.
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>>83371297
Here's the starting page if anyone's thinking about it.
http://www.itswalky.com/comic/plagued-with-a-sense-of-normalcy/
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>>83371309
>The World Wide Web is 25 years old
>Willis has been making webcomics since the tripod days
http://walkerton.tripod.com/
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>>83333366
Actually yeah, even if Mary remained as she is. Especially if she remained as she is.
That would be entertaining.
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>>83371377
>tripod
whoa
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Will Willis spend the rest of his "adult" life with his delusions?
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>>83371896
Probably.
The worst part is that his kids will inherit his delusions.
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>>83372044

I wonder if it will alternate.

Willus took the fundamentalist thinking he was taught as a kid through Christianity and applied it to "Feminism"

Will his kids take the fundamentalist thinking that they're taught and apply it to Christianity again? Or maybe something else entirely?
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>>83372160
They'd become the equivalent to us.
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No patreanon today?
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>>83370543
Perspective is the least of this comic's problems.

Coincidentally, perspective is also the biggest of this comic's problems.

SEE THAT WILLIS? THAT WAS A CLEVER JOKE, SOMETHING YOU CAN'T DO
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>>83373842
It would just be some shit about Becky.
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>>83368768
It was stated in the comic, a long time ago.
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>>83374126
>Coincidentally, perspective is also the biggest of this comic's problems.
oh snap
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http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Dumbing_Of_Age
how long before Willis loses his shit over this?
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>>83375274
You're assuming he's going to care about what "bigots" say rather than dismissing them out of hand.
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>>83375274
It's an old hat, he likely has seen it already. Also what >>83375505 says.

You only have a chance of phasing him if you get some popular progressive outfit to tear him down somehow.
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>>83375546
Are you suggesting that we convince some 'progressive' comic website like the mary sue to do a negative article about Dumbing of Age and then gauge willis' reaction?
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>>83375576
Yes. Something about shallow stereotypes, like dyke bitch Becky or how Carla is an asshole and it reflects badly on transpeople or how Joyce's transbro is still a guy and it encourages transpeople to hide in closets or etc
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>>83375622
Sounds good.
Only problem is how we get it published.
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>>83375576
>>83375622
>>83375546

Won't work, he's already been covered positively by Mary Sue.
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>>83375796
So what should we do instead.
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>>83375887
Nothing? He won't listen to reason, his True Believers will never stop fellating him, and for some reason the people he's supposed to be an ally of will never catch on to the fact that he's making them look terrible and actively giving the other side fuel. Just shake your head and walk away, because you can't cure stupid.
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>>83374935
Where?
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>>83371244
witnessed
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>I'm banned from the comment section

I don't know why this makes me so angry
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>>83379229
Shit, I thought this was the new one.

Who is that in the last panel?
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>>83381096
>banned from the comment section
I used to comment on there and I did go to the comments for the last couple Carla strips, but I honestly couldn't bother posting after seeing some of the sentiments.

I've been watching some episodes of All in the Family, and that does a better job of examining/critiquing bigotry and progressiveness, while not conflating those ideas with morality itself. There's a lot of dignity that I find missing a lot of the time in these strips. "Good thing better than bad thing" isn't really a revelation, but I just thought it interesting that a piece of media from a time with less awareness could do so much more of a nuanced job than one now.
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>>83375274
>Sally "Sal" Walkerton - Walky's sister, who we're repeatedly informed is cool and a badass. She smokes, has a motorcycle, and speaks absolutely nothing like her brother. Sally is intellectually inferior to her brother, violent, and is a convicted criminal.

>In spite of these differences, she claims her parents favored Walky because she's blacker than he is (NOTE: THIS IS A PLOT POINT) even though they have the exact same skin color (#CEA87E). This leaves open a troubling question: since Sal literally can't be talking about skin color, which part of being an inept, ill-educated, violent criminal did Willis write-in to make her "blacker" than Walky?
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>>83382801
She's basically accusing Walky of being a Carlton. Because who'd be a better expert on the Black Experience than the white fanboy from the Midwest.
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>>83382974
Who indeed?
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>>83379229
Ahhh, I love timing. I was just looking at this strip the other day: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/terrible-2/

Billie specifically says she won't leave Ruth, even if Ruth pushes her away. But she isn't pushing back at all.

Also, great edit--I thought it was a new one too, until I saw the signature face thingy in the second panel.
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>>83381999
I would assume Billie since she has her Dragons shirt on. She's just drawn really inconsistently.
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>>83375546
>It's an old hat
Maybe I don't understand the expression, but the article is only 2 days old.
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>>83381096
Because if Liberals are good at anything its censorship.
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hey.
Hey!
HEEEEEEYY!
where's becky?
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>>83386286
IN ALL OF OUR HEARTS
and just outside your window. Probably should close the curtains.
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>>83371377
>mfw Willis has been making money off his retarded comics for over 20 years
>meanwhile I'm here, doing nothing but whining and wallowing in self-pity daily

Screw it. I'm starting my own webcomic. It can't be worse than the dribble Willis makes.
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>>83386513

The entire reason that Willus can make money off the garbage he vomits out is that he's essentially been grand-fathered into the big-boys' club simply from having been in the game for so long.

The amount of newer webcomics that can make any money at all is tiny.
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>>83386742
plus you have to endless pander to the snowflakes. I doubt Willis even enjoys what he's writing anymore, which is probably why he flips out at the little criticism.
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>>83371244
https://youtu.be/rl2AM3j3dIw
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>>83378524
page 138, panel 3
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>>83386513
I'd read it if it is good and charming.
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>>83367709
I really wanted this to end badly for them.
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Wait, is Joyce's black roommate a sophomore? Why is she dorming with a Freshman? Is that a thing at some schools?

I just remembered while I was writing this that my wife graduated from IU. Let's ask her.

She says almost certainly not.
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>>83387494
At least where I went, it was perfectly possible as long as they were compatible roommates. We had stuff to fill out like "are you a night person or a morning person?" and "do you smoke?" and other questions like that.

It doesn't make sense for Sarah and Joyce to room together not because of their age but because they are utterly incompatible as roomies. I can't imagine my old college doing ANY of these roommate assignments.

Willis intentionally put everyone where he did in order to create as much fake conflict as he could. But in reality, the roomie system is normally much more accommodating. And with it being a month into the school year, at least a third of them would have left the floor entirely.

A lot of freshmen quit after the first week of classes, after the first month, and at the end of the semester.

Plus, a lot of people don't like their roommates or they met people they liked more, so they move in with people they don't hate. This floor could have been fixed, at earliest, two weeks ago, in-universe.
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>>83387692
They would've all left because Carla wouldn't stop skating in the damn halls.
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>>83387692
>A lot of freshmen quit after the first week of classes, after the first month, and at the end of the semester.

Do you mean quit in the sense they got assigned to new rooms or quit in the sense they dropped out entirely?
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>>83386513
Good on you, Anon.

You meant "drivel", not "dribble".

Sorry.
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So, what's the patreon strip gonna be about? Move to someone else, or Becky and Joyce's Wild Roadtrip Adventures?
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>>83390726
It's going to be 4 panels of Becky and Joyce talking about nothing. It will not move the plot at all in any conceivable way at all. Becky will mention being a lesbian.
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>>83389307
Yes. My freshman year I had my first roommate drop out maybe two weeks into the semester.

>>83390726
Probably more Becky and Joyce. If he sticks to his usual format for switching focus the only thing he's got happening right now is Carla/Mary and that's pretty much done. We've got incoming drama with Joyce's family, considering it's nighttime and they've been gone since the morning without telling Joyce's parents and her other brother probably went straight to their mother after the diner stuff.

Here's hoping it switches to hardcore Danny/Ethan smut.
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>>83386513
I remember from an old thread one anon remembered him from Transformers(?) message boards from like the mid 90s and he was retarded and hated even then.
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>>83391502
Really? Did he sperg out and screech "WIIGII" even back then?
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>>83389307
As in drop out. There were a lot of people that I thought I'd be around for the rest of my college life, and then they suddenly GTFOd because it was too stressful.
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>>83390871
At least 3 times.
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>>83392292
What even is the origin of that ridiculous phrase?? I know Willis came up with it, but how? And why?
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> Let's make 9/11 about me, 14+ years later

http://www.itswalky.com/
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>>83392549
He came up with it on IRC (I think). He needed a CATCHPHRASE(TM), so why not make it the most inane monkey-chatter someone can screech?
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>>83392672
>he doesn't know that It's Walky finished forever ago and the site just recycles updates over and over like old syndicated newspaper comic strips
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>>83392770
Oh no, I do. You see that update? He wrote that today. "IMAGINE HOW HARD IT WAS TO DRAW A MONKEY BEATING PEOPLE UP WHILE REAL PEOPLE ACTUALLY DIED IN NEW YORK"
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>>83389307
Both.

Anyway, I keep saying this but DoA makes me uniquely uncomfortable as it just reads like Willis' own form of catharsis/therapy. So many of the major conflicts/plot points boil down to a dude railing against his mother/upbringing. At least his other comics tried to tell a story, or were just generally sitcom-ish.
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>>83392716
You're mostly right. He coined it as an interrogative and they kept using it as an IRC channel name. They probably still do. Transformers fans like Eric Schwartz don't interface with technology developed after 2001.

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Wiigii!
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>>83392897
Even Shortpacked! was better than this, which says a lot.
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Oh, it's THIS retard.

"HEY LET ME DEFLECT THE FACT I SOLD OUT TO SLIPSHINE BY GIVING BOTH BARRELS TO GAMERGATE"
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>>83393029
Every time I read his rebuttal to a critique or argument, he takes it so extremely and so personally. Sometimes, I just want to tell him to unclench his asshole and just relax. Fuck.
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>>83393029

>Plotting to rape, plotting to murder

The GatorGolf incident was fuckpocalyptically stupid and blown out of proportion for what it was, but this nigger literally cannot be for real.
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>>83381999

The protagonist of UNDERTALE.

There's a piece of butterscotch pie on the floor.
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>>83393349
Oh, he very much is. See that INCREDIBLE LOGICAL PIVOT? "Oh yeah well h-huh you guys are doing so much worse than being a porn lord, you c-can't silence me!"

No one was asking his opinion on Gamergate. At most this strip had to defend himself from anti-porn "fans." What does he do? He brings up people targeted by malcontents in Gamergate as his personal shield.

What a fucking doorlord.
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>>83382801

At least Archie Bunker's character actually grew. Near the end he got thrown out of his lodge for punching a guy who was putting down his housekeeper and Jewish great niece
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>>83383619

That's better than Willis' own art
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>>83393510

>Oh, he very much is

Did he watch that CSI: SVU episode and think it was real life?
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>>83367709
I'm sure he knows a lot of gay guys.
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>>83393668
He gets so many ass-pats from his "insightful" reblogs on Tumblr, Willis is likely on a first-name basis with Zoe Quinn and the other principal actors on the anti-GG side of the aisle.

And yeah, he probably saw the episode and thought it was real life too.
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>>83391502

Not so much "Hated" as "Worthy of hate". ATT and the Allspark were more or less his clique.

One day someone bought a prototype Alternators toy off Ebay and wanted to share some information about features no one else knew before. Walky then led the witch hunt, proclaiming him a thief

Another time on the Allspark he talked down condescendingly on some guy who was commenting on GI Joe switching to the t-crotch format of the early 2000s. Walky said "It's called progress, try looking it up sometime". Even though his experience with GI Joe was limited to owning a few Tiger Force figures

He's a real shitlord and has been from way back
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>>83392549
>>83392716

It was created on IRC. But it was actually a typo. He meant to go "Woohoo". THEN he decided to make it his catchphrase.
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>>83393240
Because he can't let it seem like your stance has the slightest semblance of logic. He has to act like its entire existence disgusts him.
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>>83394124
> not just going "*woohoo"
> HA HA IT WILL BE MY CATCHPHRASE FOREVER
This is on the level of "AND N"
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>AND N
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>>83394246
Nathan Grayson wrote a long, spiraling email to Milo at Breitbart, ending it with "AND NO" (Meaning "and no, you can't have an interview with me")

https://twitter.com/Nero/status/555149652509474816/photo/1

It was just too precious

But really, that's how Walky reads too
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>>83393573
his art isn't exactly a high bar to get past, though.
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>>83392716
>>83392922

He's attempted several forced catchphrases like "It's So Babies!"

Ironically his life used to have minimal levels of Baby, but now there's Too Much Baby.
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>>83392770
...didn't he crack wise about newspaper strips like For Better or Worse becoming zombie strips?
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>>83394638
I remember that one riffing on Funky Winkerbean for being unnecessarily dramatic or some shit.
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>>83393029
This reads exactly like that CAD "fuck you Jack Thompson" comic.
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>>83394638
He regularly makes fun of strips like Funky Winkerbean because of their melodrama. The total lack of any self awareness makes my teeth rattle.
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>>83394721
For the cancer (which was deserved) and the incest (which didn't actually happen but idiots who read certain strips out of context think it did).
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>>83389307
You already got replies, but when I was a freshman, yeah, a ton of people didn't last to the second quarter, let alone the second year (like me). Lots of drop outs and fail outs.

And the school I transferred to after being a frosh, in my junior year I know the same thing happened, because my brother was a freshman and I got to see the rooms suddenly empty around him and his friends leave school, too.
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>>83393349
>>83393510
I think some goober said "but you draw porn, what kind of feminist are you?" to him on Tumblr. This was his response. Obviously he had no idea what was going on beyond the death and rape threats as exaggerated by Tumblr.

But guess what? Were there death and rape threats? Yes. Were they serious? Probably not, but just making a threat is a crime - 18 USC 875(c). And certainly there were sleazy people using the fact that they were targeted by these human garbage as a shield against valid criticism, but that doesn't detract that there were DEATH AND RAPE THREATS.

Yes, I mad.
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>>83395060
Yes, of course there were death and rape threats. That's practically the grease that works the gears of any politically-fraught shit-fest online. It cut both ways and I stayed miles away from it.

But, holy shit, Willis just hard-turned from "OH HA HA I GUESS I CAN'T BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY AS AN ARTIST BECAUSE I SOLD OUT TO SLIPSHINE" to "AND CLEARLY I NEED TO TALK ABOUT GAMERGATE NOW"

How am I supposed to read this as anything but, "Clearly if you aren't cool with my porn you're a Gamergate shitlord, also double barrels (by which I mean to Gamergaters but probably to anyone who doesn't like my porn or porn artists because they're, like, the sam people, wiigii)"
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>>83395060

>Yes. Were they serious? Probably not

That's not how you spell "Definitely not"

The words "I am literally going to murder you" are typed in Youtube comments approximately 10 billion times every day, exactly zero of them lead to actual murders.

At some point you have to be a fucking adult and stop pretending to be retarded for attention.

Not to mention that the threats were flying hot and spicy from both sides and I can count 3 pro-gators that were doxxed for every one anti-gator that was.
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>>83392366
Most of the panels will be copy-pasted, with only slight variances
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>>83395134
It's all about winning the argument by changing the question.
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>>83395134
I think the strip was first published as a response to the goober complaining about his Tumblr posts. The response was positive so he posted it on the main site, stripped of context, so it looks like he's attacking GG out of nowhere.

>>83395189
You don't know that. I once got into an argument on a message board with someone I later learned spent a few years in prison for stalking a minor celebrity. There are a lot of deranged fucks out there, and you never know if you're dealing with one of them.
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>>83395364
No, he posted it directly to his website. "The goober" isn't the only person to rail on him for making porn of characters and moving plot points around to make the porn "make sense in context" (which is another way to read "changing whole sections of the plot and slowing down production FURTHER to offload them to Slipshine with a referral coded URL in the comments when things get steamy in the main comic).

Honestly? I think he needed another "big hit" comic like his piece about the Starfire reboot. Every time he throws a fit, Mary Sue and other outlets are almost guaranteed to farm his content, netting him more views.
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>>83394782
>>83394721

this makes me mad bc Funky Winkerbean actually works despite all logic
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>>83395443
Look, it was fall of '14, and at that point pretty much everything on the Internet was all GG all the time. In context it made sense. But frankly I don't feel like digging up 2-year-old Tumblr posts by someone I've grown to despise so I won't argue it further.
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>>83395594
You're right, it was the climate. It's just insane to me he doesn't have the filtration skills necessary to separate his "I AM A GOOD ALLY TO WOMEN!!1!" strip from "OKAY SERIOUSLY I AM OKAY BEING A PORN ARTIST"
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>>83395364

>You don't know that

Can you actually point me to a single instance of these kinds of threats leading to an assault or killing?

If you go by the logic of "You never know" then you might as well refuse to go outside when it's cloudy, you never know if lightning might strike you after all.

Fuck, at least I can actually point to examples of people actually being struck by lightning.
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>>83395663
I think some idiots latched onto the anti-porn feminism of Sinfest and assumed Willis had to agree with it, because male feminists are all the same amirite?

That's funny, though. Secular Ishida converts to feminism, suddenly porn is evil. Christian Willis converts to feminism, suddenly porn is 100% awesome.
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>>83395926
Ishida was pozzed by radfems. Super-pozzed. Just riddled with it. Willis less so.

But you notice he hasn't posted a new porn story in ages despite having no less than three in rapid succession? Chances are his stories weren't enough for Slipshine to front him any more money, so he's "trailed off."

That's a short way of saying "His smut wasn't good enough."
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>>83395926
Porn is awesome so long as it's positive and Done Right. For these purposes, Done Right involves the dude being the one who squirms and squeals like a high school girl in an anime while the lady works him over.
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>>83396214
There was one of Amazi-Girl and Danny riiiiiiight when they were breaking up really recently.

>>http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/unrelated/

It was extremely obvious that he was getting it out of the way because they were going to break up.
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>>83396708
Hmm. He had ONE comic of them fucking over a year ago, then just recently, hoping to cash in the superpowered lady bloc? What a dweeb.
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The dreadful thing about transgender people like Carla is that disliking them is automatically a hate crime somehow. You're not allowed to find them annoying or obnoxious, because that clearly makes you a transphobe. If I wouldn't tolerate the sort of shit they pull from a peer, is it not prejudice in itself to tolerate it merely because they're trans?

I'd bet the lion skin which comprises the totality of my clothing that, were I to oppose the diabolical Kerberos purely in the spirit of literary criticism, the worthless king of the comments would not allow my voice. Soon, they shall suffer the lash of my tongue!
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>>83397207
I personally know at least five trans people, and four of them would slap Carla for half of her "antics."

The fifth would use a chair. Trans guys do not give a FUCK.
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>>83397207
What chaps my ass the most about this whole thing with Carla is that Willis straight up says, on the cast page, that if "you don't hate her, she hasn't been trying hard enough," but somehow despite making Mary do just that, saying mean things is a big no-no. Heaven fuckin' forbid someone says something hateful to someone they hate for what seems to be a pretty justifiable reason, right?
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>>83397207
The best part about Cerebus is how much of a hypocrite he is. Attacked someone's gender for pointing out Ruth was a shitty RA and the whole thing is her fault. Went max damage control afterward.
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>>83397648
But what if Mary doesn't give in? Willis accidentally writes Carla as loving Mary because she's the only one that doesn't back down.
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>>83397731
This is a ship Willis is too scared to write. Carla being a hatesexual or whatever would cause comments to flip out. Carla is the real victim here.
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>>83397716
>>83397716
So Cerebus actually misgendered someone? The thing that makes Mary the villain because no matter what, You're not supposed to misgender someone?
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>>83368768
Is the brother a trans man or a trans girl and really her sister?
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>>83398214
She behaved exactly like Mary. Arguing with people left and right, then decided to claim someone was 'mansplaining' or however she wrote it.
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>>83398214
do you think Cerberus, the self proclaimed "transgendered poster", sees the irony?
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>>83398341
"using man-logic"
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>>83397716
I'm also not getting the destruction of property thing. What property? The hallway? Because that's what Mary put the glue on. Carla didn't have to skate there. In fact Mary took several steps before to keep Carla from skating there. If we're gonna use Willis' logic of "no one told Mary to take the box", then we can use it here too.
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whats the deal with this cerebus character? every time i scroll by the thread i think you guys are talking about an earth-pig born
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>>83397716
I wonder how Cerberus would react to the fact that I've basically been "misgendered" my whole life and it's not that big a deal. Getting called ma'am happens to me a LOT and I've never made a big deal about it. I might not even correct them if it's a short enough interaction.
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>>83398341
>She
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>>83395060

>>Implying Walky getting offed would be a bad thing
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>>83395189

>That's not how you spell "Definitely not"

Wasn't trying to spell "Definitely not"
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>>83398279
Trans girl.

Willis thought it would be super-clever to give the children the eye color of their opposite-gender parent. So since the dad has big blue eyes, Joyce does too. And so does Josh/Jocelyn.

The only one who knows that Josh goes by Jocelyn is Ethan. This was largely done to screw Ethan over, since he finally was going to admit to liking a guy, and then it turns out the "guy" is going to transition to presenting as a girl. Perhaps before the heat death of the universe. But not likely in Willis time.
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>>83398503
I'm a hairy, long haired bearded man. Some people still call me ma'am, if I'm not facing them. You know what I do. Smile, and look at the look on their face as they apologize, and tell them it's no big deal. Because it's not.
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>>83397207
>the worthless king of the comments

Shouldn't that be the RUTHLESS king of comments?
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>>83398796
No please god no. Willis for the sake of all transwomen, stop writing transwomen. You suck at it.
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>>83397716

Carla wasn't defending himself. Making this contraption was nothing short of pure, old-fashioned, straightforward retribution and spite.
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>>83386513
You know as an aside, I saw Zeta Gundam years ago and I'm still not sure why Kamille went so far over the edge here? I mean I get snapping over time, but isn't it revealed that he just met Jerid later? Did he just have a psychotic break?
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>>83399055
Now is Carla going to remove all that mechanical crap she tied to Mary's door or not? Because I'm sure blocking someone's door with garbage would count as an actual offense too, even if you're a poor oppressed Trans girl.
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>>83398214
>Cerebus
Actually, reading Cerebus the Aardvark instead of Dumbing of Age would be an excellent idea.
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>>83393524

He adopted a young Hispanic girl, he refused to take part in a minstrel show.

And Mike is called out on his bullshit a lot.

https://youtu.be/K0xsid5I5j0?t=18m40s

That's what makes the show great. That's good political writing. It pokes at both sides and shows the flaw in both.
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>>83393524
>his character grew

By enabling people who would eventually push the idea of "white privilege"?
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>>83399234
Now that gay marriage is the law nationwide, trans rights are the Important Issue Of Our Time(tm) and you have to bend over backwards to give every benefit to the trans community so you can be on the Right Side Of History(tm).
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>>83398493
Eventually I will drag Kerberos before the throne of Eurystheus, and on that day I will be free.
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>>83367709
I wanted to see the cops show up while they were in the dad's house. Then while they struggle, the cops pulls off his shirt and everyone sees he has a bra on underneath. Awkwardness ensues.
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when did this arc start? cause a bathroom law plot would be timely and also maybe not as horrible
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>>83400048
Honest hard working black people hate the blacklivesmatter movement more than white people.
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>>83400647
>maybe not as horrible
Doubtful, the whole bathroom thing has been a shitshow, and Willis isn't known for being insightful or fair.
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>>83400668
Given that blm doesn't seem to have real goals and just run around smashing shit and pissing off shillary, sanders and trump together I'm not surprised regular black people hate autistic black activists for making everyone else think they're retarded.
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>>83400807
The people in BLM probably had nothing better to do before it. It's there new hobby/occupation.
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>>83400807
Normal black people are too busy working to stand in the middle of a street then cry racism when people honk at them.
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>>83400729

i'm just so mad about the bad plotting of Carla being evil for however many strips before we're supposed to turn and root for her
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Holy shit this took a turn to /pol/
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>>83401052

Someday you're going to have to accept that there are native /co/ posters who happen to have some beliefs that align with some of those espoused by native /pol/ posters, without actually visiting /pol/.
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WHERE IS THE NEW ISSUE?!
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>>83401736
here ya go
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>>83402082
in b4 Becky rapes Joyce.

Like, seriously, I feel as if everything about these two has been leading up to one big happy rapefest where Becky hogties Joyce to the bed and does the Screwnicorn.
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>>83402292
theres pretty much zero chance of that
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>>83402082
I don't know what emotion the last panel is supposed to be conveying. Worry at breaking in somewhere again? Because she has an alternative, Becky just fucking said it.

I'm really pissed off that Willis said Joyce's character is autobiographical. Unless he got almost raped, or on a high-speed car chase on a motorcycle, or had a 1-way homosexual relationship split him from his family, he doesn't know what autobiographical means. It's like saying "This is basically my life, if it weren't so boring"
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>>83401126
Or that people crossboard

It is irrelevant anyway because anyone whining about "le /pol/" in a thread about a webcomic written by an autistic ex-fundamentalist christian who is currently a fundamentalist SJW people will obviously be "/pol/"
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>>83402082
I actually thought Becky was copping a feel at the time.
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>>83402767
Making it even semi auto-biographical makes in protected from criticism as it makes anyone critiquing his comic automatically critiquing him. Like a Tag Not It Forever kinda thing.
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>>83402082
Honestly, this is the closest Willis has come to making a decent, believable strip in recent memory. The last panel is obviously a forced attempt at a joke, but at least nobody's acting bizarrely out of character, or like a cliched caricature.
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>>83402292
She already tried.
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>>83402767
Seconded! I'm really glad that this ocurred to someone else too. There ae so many Joyce things that can't be true for him.
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>>83402082
Holy shit, Becky is so ugly.

Like, it's bad enough she's intolerable to read, but she's not even pleasant to look at.
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>>83399189
Kamille was a teenager and New Type, which means he was over-sensitive. Also, the Titans were a violent occupying army.
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>>83397716
>usually people saying to approach it objectively are men
I understand the implication is to paint men as unreasonably assuming the other party (usually women) are being nonobjective, as if not being objective (i.e. subjective) is inherently unreasonable and negative. Subjectivity can be a wonderful thing, but the law must be just and an objective middle ground is essential.

Stupid fucking Cerberus.
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>>83402082
Okay, Willis veterans, what is Joyce's mom going to do? Try and lock her up and force her to quit school? Kidnap her? Try and kill Becky?
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>>83405219
Joyce's mother will pull out a can of gasoline, douse Becky with it, and Joyce will have to wrestle with her to keep her from throwing a match.
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>>83402292

"DAMN! You got Downs Syndrome so bad, you probably got Left, Right and Up Syndrome too!
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>>83405219

She'll only bitch untill Joyce finally snaps and tells her off, then cut her mom out of her life forever. Jocelyn will follow suit.The Dad will likely decide to get a divorce.

Because bigots deserve to die alone
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>>83405512
Hey, she'll have her son, whatever his name is
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>>83405219
She'll ask if Joyce has a boyfriend and whether they're trying to have children. It's Walky Joyce mom was better. I don't know why he turned her into a shitlord as well.
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>>83402082
So her mom evolved into Toemom at some point when we weren't paying attention?
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>>83405697
He needed to fit his mentality of Religion Bad and I'll make you see that.
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How about we make a petition to Willis to make one of his awful porn comics about Mary.
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>>83405921
He'll just find some way to humiliate her in several ways.
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>>83406046
>he doesn't have a humiliation fetish

It could be about her fantasizing or having a wet dream about Carla's dick
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>>83406132
I've thought of way too much weird and fetish stuff that could be done with Mary and Carla to be satisfied with simple humiliation.
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>>83395060
>I think some goober said "but you draw porn, what kind of feminist are you?" to him on Tumblr.
Maan those SJWs are the craziest.
>NO MATTER HOW YOU PORTRAY WOMEN IN EROTIC WORK, YOU ARE ANYWAY A PATRIARCHIAL MALE EXPLOITING THEM FOR OTHER PATRIARCHIAL MALES
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>>83367709
WHAT IS THIS GAY SHIT AND WHY IS IT ALWAYS ON /CO/

ITS FUCKING STUPID
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>>83407296
0/10
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>>83405736
>So her mom evolved into Toemom at some point when we weren't paying attention?
During the phonecall, she declared the same "I WOULD DIE FOR YOU" as toedad did.

>>83406046
>He'll just find some way to humiliate her in several ways.
That's cool with me.

>>83406132
>be mary
>have desire for women
>BUT BIBLE FORBIDS
>BUT THESE TRANSES
>THEY REALLY MEN
>BUT LOOK LIKE WOMEN
>CARLA MUST BE MINE OR SHE MUST BURN
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>>83407381
Seriously now there needs to be maryxclara porn set to Hellfire.
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>>83405697

Because Walky's a shitlord himself.

Might even be a Shitking
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>>83407381

Funny that Walky thinks that his mom being willing to die for him is reason for him to shut her out of his life and deny her ever seeing her grandchildren
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>>83407381
>Be Mary
>Carla is so cute, but also annoying and loud as fuck
>what do?
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>>83408854
Well, taking the situation he presents in the comic and his life at face value, it does put the parent in the wrong.

"I would rather risk death to keep you as I want you to be rather than let you be as you want to be" is not a positive trait.

For his mother, he does not need her to sacrifice herself for him anymore. They had serious conflict of beliefs and attempting to use that "would die for you" to get him to abandon his beliefs is not a nice thing to be doing. (Of course neither is his massive rageing.)
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Why are they always MTF trannies? Why no FTM?
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>>83405697
I'd be cool with that if it leads to Joyce's trans brother worrying because they want children and don't know what to do. I mean you could always sperm bank, but that's like 250 a year and for a college student with no support from their parents that isn't likely.

Though Willis won't do that because he doesn't actually care about any of the anxieties that come with being trans and only cares about using them as a plot device to show he's a good person.
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>>83408983

Because girls can dress and act like men with less social bias than the other way around.
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>>83408983
because then he can't fantasize about becoming a woman
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>>83408983
Pretty curious phenomenon isn't it.

I think it's rooted in still present "women=weak, men=strong" view. As well as actual physical effects of suppressing vs encouraging testosterone.
Which results in MTFs being easy fodder for victimisation.
Would you antagonize this guy to his face?

And actually I've seen one total example of FTM character - one of the signature characters in Exalted 3e. I don't recall any prominent mtfs in it actually, just one-page illustration of a nameless npc mtf from the same culture the more important ftm guy is.
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>>83409075
Well that and FTM usually have a better time passing.
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>>83405921
I did send an ask to him about when was there going to be Carla porn. He never answered. I didn't actually want to see his porn. I wanted to see his reaction to having to draw Carla as anything other than a martyr for trans rights. I still firmly believe that despite all his posturing, gay men and trans people disgust him and that why he focuses on lesbians so much more.
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>>83403066
Joyce's expression in that last panel. Becky is totally reaching into Joyce's crotch.
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>>83409096
>FTMs are usually hotter
Fixed.
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>>83409184
Is it gay to plow a pussy while cuddling into a firm manly chest?
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>>83409218
Probably? But who cares, firm manly chests are objectively superior in all ways.
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>>83409292
With proper girl you can have both firm abs AND soft breasts right above.
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>>83409184
I'm not into super masculine men so I gotta say I think MTFs are hotter to me, but only the one's that take care of themselves like Sarina Valentina.
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>>83409176
sounds like an edit ready to be made
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>>83409372
Yeah but I like a nice hairy chest.

>>83409438
I like masculinity so MTFs sadly don't do much for me.
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>>83409518
Yeah I get you, I guess we're just on opposite sides of the sexual scale.
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>>83409176
Did anybody try sending willis some beckyxjoyce porn?
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>>83408983
I know two trans guys. They can pass so much more easily than trans women. Give them a little spirit gum and stage beard hair and they're halfway there, hormones or no hormones.

Men, well ... It's easier to add to a marble statue than chip away at it convincingly.
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>>83402292
point of order, it's the Screwnicorn Trick.
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>>83402082
Outside of the last panel that one is not half bad. Although I kinda wanted to see Becky go into quip mode to have Joyce call her out (BUT THIS WILL LITERALLY NEVER HAPPEN). Also, by call out I mean saying either "stop being a chucklefuck asshole, Becky" or "open up to me for reals Becky instead of hiding behind jokes, I wanna help."

>>83402767
I mean, she's not a weird depressed artist loner, so I don't really understand how it's similar anyway. Joyce's mom hasn't even sent her a cake with a drawing she made about wanting to kill herself cause she's so horny. I think the link is they both have parents, which is a blight on both their lives!
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Faggotry faggotry faggotry gays gays homosexuals faggots demonizing christianity lesbians gays gays fags homosexuals gay gay fags fags fags faggots.

Does this comic have ANYTHING else? Every single time I make the mistake of opening one of these threads it's the same fucking shit from Willis.
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>>83393029
But Anon, you posted the wrong version!
>>83393573
Yoto is the drawfriend we need, but not the one we deserve
>>83398453
Mary glued up Carla's skates, even though no glue works that fast AND it was the last resort after Carla was being a stupid bitch.
>>83399351
I'd be down for Cerebus storytimes in these threads every now and then.
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>>83405219
Absolutely nothing will happen.
The next part of the story involves Joyce, Becky, and her father going to church. A church meticulously modeled after a church that Willis himself attended as a child, mind you.
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>>83410516
I suspect there'll be forced drama during the church service (is there any other kind?) that will lead to another public breakdown from Joyce.
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>>83410545
Nah, the forced drama is coming in through a continuation of the Mary/Carla conflict.
If I had the leaked strips, I'd post them.
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>>83410261
No.

I remember short pack was pretty fun. I thought it was cool someone made a comic about working at a toy store. Then I started noticing shit, like straight guy character straight male characters having gay sex as a prank or joke, evil parents who you never find out what they actually did but sounded like there best their children.
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>>83409438
I know a few nice ones. Pretty ladies and take good care of themselves. I've seen their before and its a utterly different person.
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>>83410545
I will be astonished if that church service ends without Joyce interrupting the minister to rant and shout at the whole congregation, because PURE INNOCENT BECKY MUST BE DEFENDED.
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>>83411112
and Becky will make some kinda Braying Jackass statement during that event. We're supposed to see that as an expression of an individual and not the raving of a imbecile.
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>>83410075
>not having joyce enjoy it
poor show, chaps.
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>>83372044
I've said it before but all kids rebel so in this case they'll go full fascist.
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>>83405219
Joyce's mom is going to follow Deuteronomy and take Joyce and Becky to the village gates and have the men hanging around there stone them to death for rebellion against god's law.
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>>83410516
>A church meticulously modeled after a church that Willis himself attended as a child, mind you.
Oh fuck me this is gonna be awful.

Who's ready for two weeks worth of strips with ridiculously stereotypical evangelicals preaching about "lynchin' them ho mo sexuals' followed some cringeworthy Becky shenanigans and another angry outburst from Joyce?
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>>83412417
AND THEN JOYCE BECOMES AN ATHEIST

Which is funny because most of the devout college kids I knew who didn't exactly agree with organized religion listened to traveling non-denominational preachers instead
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>>83412417
Baptism is happening
>Father your drowning the baby
Upturn face clenched teeth "God told me to!"
Choir boys screaming"he molested us!"
People lighting themselves on fire
Becky stands and says she is a lesbian, and the church turns into an angry mob.
They re saved by amazi-girl, followed by a half ass excuse of why and how she is even there.


Meanwhile Mary and Carla have gone out for ice cream, while Mary explains anime is part of God's plan.
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>>83412417
>with ridiculously stereotypical evangelicals preaching about "lynchin' them ho mo sexuals' followed some cringeworthy Becky shenanigans and another angry outburst from Joyce?
It's only ridiculous because it's how they actually are. Can't blame Willis on that.
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>>83412934
Nah Joyce becomes a agnostic and begins to worship the mother goddess instead. She also replaces all her pictures of Jesus with Georgia O'Keefe paintings and becomes Becky's subby slut.
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>>83413045
Becky takes Joyce bed and her clothes. Joyce now sleeps in a dog bed, required to be naked when alone in the presence of her mistress. All her underwear is thrown away.
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You know, it's funny. I'm a hard core leftie. I think gay marriage is a good thing, bathroom laws are pure stupidity, and that if someone wants to identify as sexually nonbinary then that's their prerogative and I really have nothing to lose by going "OK."

But I really, really can't stand this guy.

He is every single stereotype /pol/ has, except he's genuinely serious about it. He's a bigot who's blind to his own bigotry, he thinks harassment is A OK when done to people on the wrong side, he writes completely bullshit characters who any queer person I've ever interacted with would want to slap... And he genuinely thinks he's helping rather than giving the loonies on the other side someone to point to and yell "SEE!?" I genuinely wish he would stop making comics, and I'd honestly be happier if he went religious right so they'd have to deal with him.
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>>83413296
I'm the same way, I'm also mtf and I hate him since this comic is just turning people who's aren't also blindly following him, against transgender rights.
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>>83413405
You should post in his comments section. Seriously. Cap it before he deletes it so we can post it on tumblr and other places. As a FtM, this guy is hurting trans rights more than helping them.
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>>83405407

my easter nigga
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>>83410261
>Faggotry faggotry faggotry gays gays homosexuals faggots demonizing christianity lesbians gays gays fags homosexuals gay gay fags fags fags faggots.

Can we get that on a T-shirt?
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>>83413045
>Worship the mother goddess

Surely that would make her a pagan not an agnostic?
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>>83413493
I would, but he'd just say I'm someone faking and that real trans people email him all the time with how important his comic is to them. The guy's got his head up his asshole, even if I take a pic and timestamp it he'd claim I was lying.

This shit is just as bad as Caitlyn Jenner, like I'm glad she's finally living how she wants, but she's a rich kardashian who's incredibly sheltered and never makes the conversation about the non rich trans people who don't have fame to protect them from harassment. Kinda like Carla.
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>>83413653
I guess the point is her new religion would be worshiping Becky's cunt.
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>>83411179
Yay, someone used my edited panel!
Here's it without text though if you'd prefer that...
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You know, if we really wanted to get at willis, we could just fill the dumbing of age tumblr tag with positive posts about Mary/negative posts about Carla.
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