X-Men Apocalypse thread EVERYTHING THEY BUILT WILL FALL Edition
So now that X-Men Apocalypse has come out and is panned worse than X-Men the Last Stand (also ASM2 and MoS), what will fix do with another hater movie? I mean, on one hand, they have Deadpool. But they also had Trank's FF.
What should Fox do to improve the X-Men franchise and make them not suck?
Should they focus on smaller X-Men like they did with Deadpool? (Maybe a Doop movie? A Longshot movie?)
Should they reboot the whole universe and start over?
Should they make a deal with Marvel Studios like Sony did and have MS make their movies using their characters?
I say fire Singer and bring in fresh blood. Someone like Tim Miller who knows to have Fun with the X-Men characters (and isn't afraid of fun costumes).
>>83315057
Just give the rights back to Marvel already.
So that we can have Wolverine teaming up with Captain America during WW2.
And Peter Parker dating Kitty Pryde.
And Beast on the Avengers.
And Spider-Man teaming up with Iceman and Firestar.
And World War Hulk.
And Storm dating Black Panther.
And Wolverine vs the Hulk.
And Rogue fighting Carol.
And the Avengers vs X-Men.
And good costumes.
>>83315057
Gads, just looked at the weekend box office, is this thing even going to break 100 million over the 4 day holiday weekend?
>>83315057
get Joss Whedon to direct the movies
>>83315486
Not enough angst.
>>83315481
No. It's not going to break it in the following 4 days either unless it's fucking lucky.
Overseas opening weekends indicated a final gross expectation half that of DoFP; that appears to be born out by the domestic as well. $375m is possibly still low, but I would not expect to see $500m on this showing. Very poor.
>>83315486
>>83315057
I say either Tim Miller should take over or bring back Vaughn.
Will probably just catch this movie on TV.
Hope it has an ass shot to go along with this scene, at least.
>>83315057
A franchise can survive one bad installment. The franchise is in a much healthier position than it was after TLS and as long as the next thing they release is good no one will notice
>>83315057
X-Men Apocalypse? More like CRAPocalypse!!!!
>>83315728
yes there was, movie was good cant understand all the hate way better than last stand
>>83315371
>Storm dating Black Panther
fuck off Hudlin
>>83315057
The problem with the movie that Apocalypse is boring (especially compared to Civil War's breath-taking performance of Zemo). And the movie focus on Magneto (AGAIN). You might as well call it Magneto-Men at this point.
>>83315371
I already hate this pasta
>>83317194
>I hate Fun
A Wolverine/Captain America WW2 movie and Spidey and his Amazing Friends movie might seem uncanny but would be astonishing.
>>83317615
It's TRUE. The X-Men in the MCU would be eXcellent.
Explain this
>>83317703
Thank god you will never get what you want
>>83315699
Vaughn and his writer Jane Goldman are only coming back if Mark Millar allows it.
Just got back from seeing it. It had its moments, and overall I had a good time. I liked Cyclops splitting the tree in half, and Nightcrawler fighting Angel. I also liked Singer's take on Caliban. My biggest complaints are the same ones we all have with all the other Singer X-Men movies.
>cyclops doesnt do anything important
>storm doesnt do anything important
>too much mystique (and she doesnt do anything important)
>stakes are way too high, and the only characters that really matter are jean, xavier, and magneto
>they let magneto go again (what the actual fuck?)
>black leather flight suits
>quicksilver is a fucking meme x-man
Overall, I'd say it was about as good as DOFP, maybe marginally better for having Cyclops and Nightcrawler. Not total shit, but not great either.
>#1 X2: X-Men United
>#2 Deadpool
>#3 X-Men: First Class
>#4 X-Men
>#5 X-Men: Apocalypse
>#6 X-Men: Days of Future Past
>#7 The Wolverine
>SHIT: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
>SHIT: X-Men III: The Last Stand
>>83319972
Yes, it's a negative review of Apocalypse that also says that it was the best capeshit movie this year.
I wonder what does that mean
>>83320002
>I wonder what does that mean
That the person is either autistic or never seen Civil War?
>this one autistic reviewer speaks for all critics and the state of superhero films
90% of critics loved Civil War and it's the Citizen Kane of capefilms (Capekino)
X-Men Apocalypse is dogshit and has a rotten RT score. People are coming out disappointed.
Fox and WB may be dying, but Marvel is just getting started!!!
>THIS HOW YOU DO IT!!!!
Marvel Studios for le win.
*Mic Drop*
>>83320513
What this guy says is that capeshit sucks, but somehow Apocalypse sucks less.
LEL
>>83320691
>because a lot of negative reviews aren't really that negative
But most of them are. Singer was too busy having sex with little boys than making a good movie.
>and some also criticize Civil War as well
A few do. Kinda like how some people hate Citizen Kane.
>>83320856
you know, if you want to bait, at least do it properly
>>83320814
Except Captain America Civil War doesn't suck. It's the best cape film of the year. The guy just hates good movies.
>>83320856
Citizen Kane is dogshit, when compared to Civil War
>>83320895
Exactly. It's the best movie I have ever seen in my life. Fuck them. Civil War > Literally everything else
>>83320892
>implying it's bait
Your movie is dogshit, Singer. Stop having sex with little boys and go kill yourself. But before you do that, tell your bosses to give the X-Men and FF rights back.
>>83320954
Everything is dogshit. Only Civil War is good.
Civil War is the best thing since sliced bread.
DC should sell Batman and Superman to Marvel.
Image comics should sell everything to Marvel.
Marvel is love. Marvel is life
>>83319484
Are we ever going to have an X-Men movie that doesn't focus on Magneto, Prof X, Magneto, Wolverine, Magneto, Mystique, and Magneto?
>>83321053
I know your being sarcastic but GiAnt-Man's scene was a thousand times better than the shitty Quicksilver scene.
>>83321089
In 10 years that might actually happen. Though it would be Disney buying out DC and Image.
>>83320691
Are you this angry that Civil War won?
>>83321089
I think Marvel would actually make a decent Marvel vs DC movie.
>>83321192
just imagine a universe where superman and captain america fight evil together
>>83321145
I'm dead serious. Civil War was the best thing ever. It was better than sex.
>>83321192
Hell yeah. I want to be bought by Disney too, I hope that they will want to buy me :(
>>83320691
>>83321229
I think Marvel would actually make decent everything. Feige should be the president of United States.
>>83321231
Imagine a universe where Zorro, Batman, Nighthawk fight crime together
>>83315481
It seems really low.
The opening weekend on USA was 35 million lower than DOFP.
I already saw it making less than DOFP due to Civil War, but fuck.
>>83317039
Zemo was boring as shit what are you talking about? He's a noncharacter
>>83321252
Nice meme shitlord
I'm disappointed that you didn't post evans.
What's the matter? Getting slow recently?
>>83320691
Yeah, they aren't that negative, in fact, most of the reviews are more positive than Civil War.
X-Men won.
>>83321322
>>83315057
>Leave twinkino to me.
>>83321352
Either post Evans, or fuck off
>>83321375
>>83321334
Yep, that 49% and ROTTEN score on RT shows that more people loved X-Men Apocalypse than Captain America and their 90% score an certified Fresh.
Truly, Marvel Studios need to be afraid of Fox. What will they do next??? Have Trank rape the X-Men?
>>83321392
Well, then fuck off
>>83321402
Exactly, X-Men won, and it's probably going to get a huge bump when this word of mouth spreads.
It'll break the 1 billion barrier easily tbqh.
>>83321402
>Have Trank rape the X-Men?
sounds legit.
>>83321417
>>83315371
>And Spider-Man teaming up with Iceman and Firestar.
Those sound like some amazing friends.
>>83321456
>>83321489
>>83321519
>>83321450
>Michael B. Jordan as Cyclops
>>83321564
are we going to do this until we run out of memes?
>>83315481
80 mill isn't terrible, but it should have done much better for a memorial day opening. Is it possible that most people are just kinda done with the X-Men movies? Days seemed like a logical jumping off point, it brought everything together. Maybe most folks saw that and decided "alright, the series is over now. I'm content." Everything else is just an epilogue at this point.
>>83321616
No, I'm going to fap to Evans. You can stay here.
>>83321657
fag
My biggest problem with this movie was that Fox didn't have the balls to shake up the status quo in any major way. I mean, its Apocalypse for christ's sake. There should have been major consequences.
This movie should have ended with Mystique and Xavier dying, further motivating Magneto to become good and fight against Apoc. It should have ended with Magneto replacing Xavier as leader of the X-men, thus cementing this timeline as radically different from that of the original films and ensuring fans of the franchise that the new films will be fresh and original.
>>83318487
Put her in the movie and X-Men is fixed.
>>83321663
Uhhhhh
>>83321679
>using fag as an insult on 4chan
oy vey
>>83321368
Can you imagine if they let him direct X-Force?
>>83321700
>jewish fag
>>83321631
>Is it possible that most people are just kinda done with the X-Men movies?
Maybe.
It doesn't help that Apocalypse doesn't really bring anything new to the table.
Deadpool was popular because it was different. It was over-the-top, crazy, bloody, and funny.
Apocalypse is just generic superhero movie with a boring villain with boring costumes and it's only big draw is boring destruction porn that hasn't been original since Independemce Day.
Fox's X-Men needs a big revamp.
>>83315371
>And Storm dating Black Panther
No, that is a terrible idea.
>>83321368
I may like your Xmen movies
But your taste in guys is trash.
...Except Angel
...And Young Apocalypse
...And Nightcrawler
but the rest of the pretty boy twinks are pleb tier.
>>83321687
havok and angel apparently died. but i agree with you. if youre going to turn the stakes up to 11 like that, then at least have the balls to show some people dying in the chaos. they really should have killed off a major character everyone is tired of like mystique or magneto. this would have been the perfect opportunity to do something like that.
>>83315057
How does Singer manage to cast some of the worst actors ever? The person playing Jean was godawful. And JLaw was bored as hell throughout the movie. And Fassbender was chewing the scenery.
>>83321872
Iceman was the worst.
>>83315057
doesn't it show there's an issue with the critics when they're that far from the audience?
>>83322660
Singer casts Game of Thrones stars for his cast for some reason
>>83324632
Not that far. The auidience is like 70% now. Just 10% higher than people who liked X-Men the Last Stand. But not as good as Zootopia.
>>83315481
How is Alice in Wonderland doing out of curiosity?
I went in expecting a shit show, but I came out enjoying it. It's not a bad film, but not a great one either.
It's like Quantum of Solace. It's not a bad film, but I'll probably forget it exists.
>>83321631
>Is it possible that most people are just kinda done with the X-Men movies?
No, Deadpool was received well, people are getting tired of Singer's format for X movies. They're just making bad films, and the audience is responding to it.
So, I like the MCU and all, but for some reason, I love the feel of the X-Men films. Everything feels bigger and larger. It feels like a lot of the MCU stuff is stuck on sets, while X-Men feel like globe trotting epics.
Does anyone else feel this?
>>83326738
This Singer is over-rated and the only good X-Men movie he made is X2.
>>83326949
not really, no. Avengers felt big. Deadpool felt small. I think it depends on the movie and the director and stuff.
>>83326949
>I totes love the MCU my fellow homedogs, but don't you love FoX-Men even more than the boring lame MCU!
>I mean FoX-Men is just so amazing and they make everything amazing!
>you should spend money on more shitty FoX-Men movies instead of good from the MCU
Oh gee, I wonder who's behind this post!
Seriously, Fox Employee, instead of shilling your shitty movie here why don't you tell your bosses to stop raping the X-Men? Mmmkay? Or are you afraid of losing your shill job?
>>83327220
I actually thought Avengers felt small. Most of the film was stuck in the Helicarrier and then most of the Battle of New York was fought on the same street. The world didnt' feel big. It just felt like a TV show.
I don't know why, but I look back and Raimli Spider-Man and then the X-Men films and there is a sense of grandness to everything. But the MCU just keeps feeling like everything is trapped on sets. I love the MCU, but for some reason it just doesn't feel like they are as big as they can be.
>>83327212
And even that wasn't really a good movie as it was 90% a Wolverine movie.
Shit, say what you will about Hawkeye in the first Avengers movie, but he wasn't treated as bad as Cyclops in X1&2.
>>83315057
>So now that X-Men Apocalypse has come out and is panned worse than X-Men the Last Stand
That only says movie criticism boils down to panning anything a PR agency did not pay them not to slander to death.
They are retarded if they do believe it was worse than last stand. They are entitled to their opinions, and I am entitled to ignoring them if as I disagree with them.
>>83326949
Fox's movies are all literally ninety percent filmed in green screens and sets
>>83327304
Oh for fucks sakes. I think the MCU balances characters very well and continues to build great stories. But the world feels small in the MCU. I never really get the sense that civilians have a presence in these films compared to something like Spider-Man. It feels like we're trapped in small locations in a lot of the MCU films. For example, the battle of New York is mostly on that one street, and most of the AoU fight is in that cathedral, which the Avengers were at in the start of the film.
I don't know if it's how it's shot or what details they leave out, but the MCU just doesn't feel grand enough. The world just doesn't feel as big as it should be. And I say this as someone who gets really excited for each MCU film that comes out and see them opening night.
>>83327428
And most of the Avengers films are on sets.
God, why are you trying to make me seem anti-MCU? I just feel like the MCU is missing something.
>>83327490
>MCU is missing something
Yeah, the MCU is missing all the characters wearing black latex and all the actors being played by talentless twinks that the director raped.
*rolls eyes*
>>83327490
Dufe, don't let that shitposter trick you into thinking his intention isn't to rile shit up this thread.
Besides, there are indeed some problems with the MCU, but I think it's rather the fact that they use a LOT of directors for eaxh film, and that's why it doesn't feel connected up until Captain America: The Winter Soldier's release, and again, up until Perlmutter got the boot from Marvel Studios.
>>83326949
Not really, but I always kind of felt more like the X-Men movies were more "real", and for adults, and not in the laughably grim "please take us serious" way of the DCEU. I mean the use of mostly true-to-life colors, more creative interesting uses of the "people with powers" concept, like Mystique in the first X-Men movie, when you didn't always know who was real or a disguise, and the real history and allegorical political questions.
For instance, the X-Men movies weren't afraid to make Magneto actually be a Holocaust survivor, and open with a scene of him in the camps. The MCU felt the need to make Cap's enemies in WWII HYDRA instead of actual Nazis, and changed Red skull Zola to HYDRA, partly to avoid questions of actual Nazi atrocities
>>83315057
>people are surprised a movie revolving around literally the worst Marvel villain is bad
>>83318487
Dem Joobs.
>>83327490
I think a big problem is that most of the MCU has battles in cities and it gets a bit repetitious. Age of Ultron has one in South Africa, South Korea and Sokovia.
>>83327934
It's sad that a show from the 90s did everything better than these shitty movies
>>83315057
So... was the blackface(technically purple face) part ignored? They has a half Gautamalan playing a guy from pre unification Upper Egypt.
>>83328904
I was really hoping to hear Oscar Isaac deliver this line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bmn6bjlw70
>>83326482
Depp's scandal seems to be sinking it.
>>83315728
Someone post that feminist getting mad at that billboard of Apocalypse choking Mystique.
I need a chortle right now.
>>83321192
>>83321089
>>83321236
Image literally doesnt own anything besides there name and logo. Disney would jusr be buying a lowercase i
And DC is owned by Time Warner, even if TW WOULD sell it for some reason, Disney would have to sell Marvel for anti trust reasons.
Just got back from the film, and just learned that critics are apparently panning it.
Why? The film was called X-Men: Apocalypse. It was about a guy named Apocalypse, who ushers in the Apocalypse. What sort of story were reviewers expecting, fucking Richard III? This movie could've been a completely obvious by-the-numbers hero v. villain clash like the first Fantastic Four, and the fact that it tried to do more than that should be plenty of reason to give the film some bonus points.
The plot felt like something right out of the 90's TV series, and when I realized the final conflict was going to beApocalypse vs. PheonixI couldn't stop grinning. I actually enjoyed it more than Civil War, desu- that film could only meet my expectations. This one exceeded them considerably.FUCKING SINISTER NEXT FILM, HYPE CANNONS ONLINE
>>83315481
JUST OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES YOU PIECE OF SHIT. JESUS.
>>83329811
Ignoring the fact that you liked this shitty movie, are you REALLY exited for Mr Sinister in FoX-Men? Are you? Do you honestly think Fox won't rape the character like they did to Apocalypse, Psylocke, and Deadpool (before Miller saved him)??? Do you really think Fox won't have Sinister anti-climaticlly killed off in a shitty way?
Do you really think that Fox won't have Magneto come in (AGAIN!!!) and steal the spotlight (AGAIN!!!!)??
>>83321631
Probably cause this trailer is captivating, emotional, chilling, and incredibly intriguing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK2zYHWDZKo
The movie delivered on all of this and so much more.
The Apocalypse trailer has interest plot set up in its trailer. Though is pretty typical with flash bang effects, the BWAMS, and the threat of the world being destroyed by a new villain. We've seen this. In every movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COvnHv42T-A
DOFP is a far more unique film vs Apocalypse and the trailers highlight that. XM:Apocalypse doesn't do more than its trailer either. It's a "see the trailer, seen the movie" deal. And it what we saw was pretty predictable.
>>83330354
Ignoring the fact that you're a memer, do you really have nothing else better than shilling for Mickey Mouse to do?
They pay people for aggressive marketing like that, so I hope you're at least getting a check for your time.
>>83318292
>better than Deadpool
>better than Civil War
even if you hate capeshit you can tell those movies are better movies, apocalypse is mediocre as fuck.
>>83330354
>Apocalypse's character was raped
The fuck you talking about, anon? The only thing Apocalypse has ever done has been attempt to destroy the world and take it over. If he didn't, he wouldn't be Apocalypse, in either name or character.
Sinister is an actual villain that can have a character plot written about him, like Magneto, so yeah, I'm more excited for Sinister than I was for Apocalypse.
>>83330764
>Sinister is an actual villain that can have a character plot written about him
And most of it will either be ignored or changed. While Magneto's 'tragic' villains story takes up a third of the freakin film. Again.
>>83331203
Man, I don't see it happening again, honestly. There's too much they can do for the next one to keep rehashing Eric. Quicksilver's confession might be the closest we get, but outside of that?
>Sinister himself
>Jean and the Pheonix
>Psylocke
>Havok's body was never actually found
>Wolverine, possibly X-23
Plenty enough here to make a film from without Magneto taking the limelight again.
80 million over a 4 day holiday weekend?
Jesus, that's awful.
I liked Xavier dropping his spaghetti around Moira, and I liked Quicksilver being a proud NEET. Dude's gotta be a wizard by now, too.
Nightcrawler's great. Favorite part of the movie. I've missed him since X2 and the new guy's just as good.
>>83331554
It's been way too many big event superhero movies in a row.
I think people have had enough for this year.
The next big team up movie is Justice League, so it'll be enough for people to take a break.
I for one, want to go back for lower-scale stories for a while.
Saw Apocolypse today
Really thought I was going to hate how they portray En Sabah Nur, but I enjoyed him fairly well. Specially when he's start to use his powers when he speaks. Sounded fucking awesome.
Also, that is NOT Quicksilver. How fucking out of character. Quicksilver is supposed to be a dick, but still have a moral compass. Gives off the idea that he doesn't have time for you and your bullshit. What I saw was a young adult with Autism who's looking for his dad
>>83331570
I'm sad there was no mention of Scarlet Witch, but I guess they really made a deal with Marvel regarding the twins.
>>83331626
so are we pretending Doctor Strange portrayed by Binnydinkle Cummysnatch isn't happening in November?
>>83320931
You literally have shit taste in movies. Please hang yourself after you kill your entire family so the gene pool is safe from your disgusting genetics.
>>83331680
Yes, but i'm talking about team-ups.
Dr. Strange, GOTG2, Spiderman, Wonder Woman, Thor 3, Wolverine 3 will all be much lower scale.
I do have to say I almost laughed when the cop went "oops" and twanged that arrow.
>>83329831
Wesley Snipes as Hairbag when?
>>83331917
I particularly liked the progressive "Oh fuck OH fuck fuck OH FUCK" faces of the rest of the cops after the arrow
Fox will make a Gambit film with some of the new X-Men characters in support. This is an easy solution for cost cutting measures. McAvoy will demand more money if he's to return in a feature role. It would be cheaper to leave the X-Men out with a possible exception of one or two figures.
I think you can pick up with the Morlocks and Sinister, and introduce all of that in a Gambit spinoff. X-Men can be featured in support.
Fox will keep jobbing when it comes to Fantastic Four movies buy making movies for 100 million in areas with tax incentives and with minimal marketing to make Marvel look better when they buy the rights and make Fantastic Four movies.
>>83329112
Oscar Isaac is some guy that gets Apocalypse's consciousness transferred into him. They don't seem to say where he's from or whatever before that happens. He wouldn't really look too different from some modern Egyptians, however.
>>83333343
underrated
bring me sum nasty boys
>>83331739
Thor 3 is Ragnarok. It's literally the end of existence.
>>83335864
Well, it can't be the end of everything or we wouldn't have any movies afterwards.
>>83335885
because Thor will win. It just completely nullifies you 'we need a lower scale' point. Ragnarok will be about Gods fighting in a cosmic scale.
>>83331644
Now compare that Quicksilver to MCU Quicksilver.
>>83336082
MCU Quicksilver's depiction was full of holes
>>83315057
>the movie is mediocre
>it gets mediocre reception
>it makes a mediocre profit
How did this become
>IT'S OVER, THEY'RE FINISHED
>>83329831
if i was snipes i would have done the same thing
>>83315057
>A Longshot movie
OH GOD FUCING NO! That would be so fucking boring. It's gonna be X-force and you know it.
>>83336612
And by the end, so was he!
DOHOHOHOHOH
>>83316261
>can't understand all the hate
Every piece aimed for public reading is a type of propaganda, and on this field the one with more money and general influence always wins.
>>83321872
I'd kill or sell my soul to get that warpath actor for me though.
>>83336650
>the movie is mediocre
It's shit
>it gets mediocre reception
It says ROTTEN on the rotten tomato website. It has a lower RT than Man of Steel, The Amazing Spider-Man 2, and X-Men the Last Stand.
>it makes a mediocre profit
It cost 234mil to make
>>83315057
Do we need five threads of marveldrones complaining about X-Men being owned by Fox, Le Twinks and Munn's dick taking abilities?
>>83338083
>It's shit
It was entertaining
>It says ROTTEN on the rotten tomato website. It has a lower RT than Man of Steel, The Amazing Spider-Man 2, and X-Men the Last Stand.
which is baffling, because it's superior to all of them, but then again, it has 75% among audience.
>It cost 234mil to make
It cost 178 mil
>>83338291
Apparently yeah, they are very insecure about a potential success, so they better shit on it just in case
>>83338312
Summer Never Ends
>>83338297
>implying audience rating matters
Most of the posters are either paid shills or retards (the same people who like Bayformers).
The movie was dogshit. A boring cliche movie with a boring cliche villain, terrible cgi, and terrible actors.
Fox should let Marvel Studios stick to making Capekino.
>>83315057
>Good movie
>ITS NOT MARVEL THO
>gets shit scores
>shit movie
>terrible convenient plots and character 'development'
>gets given blowjobs by normies
If I remember, First Class and DOFP didn't do AMAZING either despite being objectively way better than the Marvel films as comic book movies.
Though that's the point. Normies don't want comic movies. They want popcorn flicks that they can discuss with friends at the office/work place. The same as TV shows like Walking Dead and GoT. The truth is that normies aren't smart enough for shows of proper political intrigue so they give them a percieved superiority by making it easy to understand and cutting out certain elements.
Thats essentially what the Marvel movies are. No human factor. No quality writing. Just memes, quips and action scenes. They DID try with the Iron Man movies with the change in personality for Tony but they proved they didn't know what they are doing in the new stuff. Especially with the UN shit.
Could have EASILY done the hero registration act as a thing. Could have used it to introduce people like Luke Cage and other characters nobody gives a general shit about. But no.
![The.Spectacular.Spider-Man.S01E09.The.Uncertainty.Principle.Blu-ray-9.mkv_snapshot_12.28_[2016.05.31_01.11.20].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/j5FWWJG.jpg "The.Spectacular.Spider-Man.S01E09.The.Uncertainty.Principle.Blu-ray-9.mkv_snapshot_12.28_[2016.05.31_01.11.20].jpg")
>>83327432
>I never really get the sense that civilians have a presence in these films compared to something like Spider-Man.
You get a lot of that "Street Level" stuff in the Marvel TV shows, Agents of SHIELD, Daredevil, Agent Carter and Jessica Jones.
But it's limited in a sense that they can't easily connect to the movies and vice versa other then the offhand BATTLE OF NEW YORK or obscure name drops.
Movies being movies, I think the bigwigs usually want to do things on a grander scale, so the stakes are usually higher, threats are nationwide or worldwide. Antman was a bit more on a smaller scale, but the corporate shenanigans and villain is similar to what they've done in the past
I think the Spider-man movie will be more street level though, just hoping Iron Man doesn't eat up too much screentime and they don't try to stuff it too much with other heroes, at least for now. I personally wish they would do a Spider-man TV series with the bigger events being movies.
TLDR; I WANT SPIDER-MAN
>>83338312
>potential success
>Rotten tomatoes score less than Man of Steel, ASM2, and X-Men the Last Stand
>barely managing to get people into seats
>meanwhile Civil War has a certified 90%, made millions, and is literally beloved by everyone
Yes, Marvel Studios is really scared of Fox. If Fox keeps making movies like X-Mb Apocalypse and Trank's Fantastic Four, there's no way Marvel Studios can survive!!!!!!!!
>>83338425
See >>83321252
Hurts don't it, Fox shill? ;^)
>>83338425
No no no, don't blame this on Marvel. If the movie is shit, it's shit.
>Though that's the point. Normies don't want comic movies. They want popcorn flicks that they can discuss with friends at the office/work place.
That's literally what comicbooks are. That's exactly what movies are. Something to watch and entertain you, so you walk away having enjoyed your time. Of course people want popcorn flicks, no one wants to sit in the theater bored for 2 to 2 and a half hours.
>The same as TV shows like Walking Dead and GoT.
Normies like those because they are entertained, being able to socialize with people about them is a bonus.
>The truth is that normies aren't smart enough for shows of proper political intrigue so they give them a percieved superiority by making it easy to understand and cutting out certain elements.
Now see I know you're trolling. And i'm taking the goddman bait. Mother fuckers just want to sit down and watch a good show/movie. They don't wanna fucking have to think, but even still nothing about this movie is thought provoking. It's not as bad as people made it out to see, but it's not liek some oscar worthy art-house tier film. It's a silly block buster.
>Thats essentially what the Marvel movies are. No human factor. No quality writing. Just memes, quips and action scenes.
That's all subjective. I find Captain America being very humanly. Small kid with a big heart. Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, and hell even Scott Lang are humanly. As for quality writing, it depends what you consider quality, if you're going on a redditier rant about how light hearted the movies are, then hell yea you're not going to like them. Because to a god movie is dark and edgy.Yea that make quirky dialogue, but it's part of the charm they have.
>>83331680
Who?
Did you mean to say Bumpernut Cumquat?
>>83338581
Do not bother, anon. That is the infamous /co/ntrarian! Watch as he hates everything MCU (including the famous Captain America Civil War which has a 90% on RT from critics) because it's popular and dismiss it as lower level trash while praising terrible movies (like X-Men Apocalypse and BvS) to look cool and deep.
>>83335864
Ragnarok means "the crepuscule of the gods" not "the end of existence"
it's not the end of the world, it's the end of the gods
it does involve a massive flood, but it also specifies that the human race will survive and several gods as well (so it's even a misnommer)
it's more like the end of an era
>>83338336
Summer doesn't affect the number of users on 4chan. Moot proved this. Nice job proving you're a newfag.
>>83315057
>worse than X-Men the Last Stand
finally, im not crazy. is the worst. and its the 3rd since the reboot-retell-relaunch. so, singer was right. the 3rd is always shit.
>>83338793
It's hilarious how his shitty quote can also apply to his movie and not just XTLS. The man has no awareness.
>>83315057
>Just give the rights back to Marvel already.
APLAUSE. CONGRATS YOU ARE THE STUPID OF THE YEAR.
please keep your fanfiction for yourself, or mail it to your mom. she will be happy.
>>83338846
Ha, what was it? self fulfilling prophecy??? HA
>>83315371
>marvel
>good
Wew lad I am laffin
>>83319484
X-men 1,2, and 3 are shit. DoFP and Wolverine are much better.
>>83320513
>civil war
>good
>>83339045
Not just good, but better than X-Men Apocalypse.
>>83335409
im cool w/ gambit/marauders film. bring back caliban and do a better sabettooth though.
So why didn't they simply have Magneto pull a heroic sacrifice fighting Apocalypse and holding him for the burning of Phoenix instead of being good guy hero that gets off scott free
This was his last movie anyway right? His and Jennifer Lawrence's contracts are up?
>>83320856
Kinberg fucked up too. The script is a sloppy mess, which is baffeling after DOFP had a pretty tight script.
>>83321872
i reckon that angel actor's ass landed him the role, but how's he in the movie?
>It's a "Let Marvel have X-Men back" Mousketeer thread
>>83315371
SWEET
>>83340542
I like how Magneto killed billions of people and everyone forgave him.
>>83315486
No. I'd rather watch Shane McMaohn write and direct the movie.
>>83316261
>yes there was
Yes she Unconscious after that scene
>>83315371
The rights are never going back, kid. Best you can hope for is Fox continues gathering fresh talent like with Tim Miller on Deadpool, and hopefully the guy they got to direct New Mutants.
>>83315371
>>83315371
>Logan teaming up with Cap during WW2
No point, would be alright
>Pete daing Kitty
No fuck off
>Beast on Avengers
Okay
>Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends
Okay, cool. Not worth it.
>WWH
Can still be done if modified. Fuck off
>Storm dating T'Challa
That was and always will be a shitty idea.
>Wolverine vs Hulk
We can do with out
>Rogue vs Carol
We don't really need that.
>Avengers vs X-Men
I should have known you were baiting
>Good costumes
Deadpool
>>83338678
But Civil War is trash.
>>83331701
Citizen Kane sucks. It's all about some shitty rosebud. At least Civil War has a coherent plot
>>83338462
Yeah. They're scared of another Deadpool
>>83315057
but apocalypse wasfun. the user ratings have been good, too. i don't think it's reasonable to predict a cape movie's success based purely on wether or not rotten tomatoes likes it
>wooden arrow goes through 2 (TWO) people
>Mystique leading the XMen and being a positive influence, ever
>Cyclops' autistic "AHHHHHHHHH" at the end
>completely hamfisting Phoenix
>Jubilee was there for yellow fever
>depending on Wolverine's scenes for a buzz
>serious Stan Lee camo
>Psylocke useless as shit
>muh angel vs devil symbolism
Did I miss anything?
>>83346302
besides a sense of humor?
>>83317703
Marvel Studios has a dedication and love to the source material that no other film studio has, which is understandable by some degree. Because Marvel Studios, is, well, Marvel Studios. FOX and Warner Bros and SONY aren't comicbook exclusive nor are they headed up by individuals who are fans of the comics. Bryan Singer, Simon Kinberg, Laura Donner, Amy Pascal, Zack Snyder, Tim Rothman all have one thing in common. None of them give a fuck about the comicbook properties that they've had a hand in adapting to screen. Singer has even only recently pretended to care due to the increasing traffic of geekdom on the internet.
Kevin Feige on the other hand? Hardcore fanboy. Always has been. The rest are pretenders. And Feige's hand over the MCU is what has made their films good-to-great comicbook movies, while all the rest flounder at even being halfway decent movies barely resembling the source material.
Marvel Studios takes it's comic book property seriously. They don't make whimsy of it and this shows in their dedication to costuming and embracing it with tact. Kinberg and Singer are not better storytellers than the collective writers who have shaped the XMEN over the decades. You're supposed to draw on what has worked and magnify the elements that lend itself to cinema. Marvel does that, FOX doesn't.
>>83346522
>implying the majority of the people who see marvel movies read comic books
accuracy to the comics isn't important
>>83346584
Which makes it all the more impressive that they even bother.
>>83346183
the user ratings have been dropping solidly, RT still counts ratings made prior to release as "good", which skews the result
you need to subtract the number of ratings it had prior to release from the total and calculate the user score that way
>>83346302
Yea
>Magneto going full Vader NNNOOOOO
>the entire mall scene getting cut into pieces
>Cyclops not giving a fuck his brother died three minutes later
>Quicksilver (who was established as having to hold neck to avoid whiplash and snap) grabbing people and chucking people at a billion miles per second and none of them are injured
>Wolverine Weapon X costume looks like shit because of no visor which lets you see Hugh's face
>JLaw giving a bored performance and not wanting to be there
>Archangel looked stupid
>>83347320
>JLaw giving a bored performance and not wanting to be there
I don't blame her, the movie seems to have no idea what to do with Mystique.
>>83338875
>Aplause
>You are the stupid of the year
>All caps
>mail it to you your mom
You sure got his number, anon. Burn of the year.
>>83345731
Avengers Vs X-men would probably be amazing in film. Cause they would trim it and give it new focus just like Civil War. We can do without for sure, but I don't think they'd fuck it up. Though I think AvX or XvA(1987 mini series) in comics were better than the civil war comic. If they pulled from both vs events it could be great, but..... it's not happening.
>>83346183
>the user ratings have been good
People said this about BvS too. It's too early to predict what those will be, as they often start high because they're flooded with fans, but will drop if general audiences don't like it.
>>83348374
the reviewers have been saying the same thing as /co/, ironically: she's up front because she's famous but they've got nothing for her to do
>>83315057
Utilize all the mutants appropriately. Jubilee got most of her scenes cut. Xmen needs to be more of a shared universe. I want a Nightcrawler meets Azazel movie. Even though he is dead he comes back. Need to read that solo series. But make a Nightcrawler pirate film, Cyclops film, etc. Gambit is being worked really hard on which is a good thing. I cant wait for a Deadpool crossover. Deadpool can make fun of Channing Tatum. I heard that Xmen Apocalypse is better than critics say. They just mad it ain't MCU. But they disliked the cgi I guess. Cgi is great technology why do critics use that as an excuse? As long as it aids the story it is fine. Is the cgi that bad?
>>83348990
The CGI is fantastic. Fox really fucked themselves over with the state of the new trilogy, though. First, they should have made it take place in the present day or a little earlier than the present day. No one is going to believe that there is a 30 year gap between First Class and the next X-Men movie. It was cool for a time being, but they need to stick to one time period. They shot themselves in the foot by introducing a FC cast, killing most of them with a DoFP retcon, then killing the rest in Apocalypse. Apocalypse had to effectively produce a villain, his four followers, AND the new X-Men that are supposed to carry the franchise. All within the span of 2 and a half hours. Lord knows when Gambit will take place and Deadpool takes place in the present day, leagues away from the rest of the X-Men cast. Apocalypse is good, but it had a lot of shit to do and suffers for it. Not to mention that the entirety of the mall scenes, aside from a 3rd movie joke, were removed. The joke shouldn't even be there since although Last Stand was trash, Apocalypse is the third movie itself. Who knows how many other scenes were removed.
Fox mishandled the new trilogy, but things seem to be getting better. It's definitely worth a watch.
>>83317483
Holy shit, the word play, pls stop.
>>83315371
>And Peter Parker dating Kitty Pryde.
Fuck off, Bendis.
>>83349748
She is the best for Peter Parker and you know it!
>>83348633
It would make for a cool movie
>>83346522
THIS
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>mfw my friends say this is better than Civil War
>>83315371
nice pasta.
>>83354554
Your friends are either paid shills or have shitty taste senpai
>>83338083
>It has a lower RT than Man of Steel, The Amazing Spider-Man 2, and X-Men the Last Stand.
I mean those movies legit upset me and this one didn't. It's just kinda meh but with a few bright spots. Those movies were awful with a few meh spots.
>>83355215
Just because you love eating shit, Foxshill, doesn't mean everyone else does.
Tell your bosses to stop raping the X-men. Or at least stop using Magneto for the billionth time.
>>83356039
The Last Stand was a Fox film, friendo. It was also hot steaming garbage.
>>83354554
Ditch them and find a bunch of Marvel Shills to be your friends instead.
>>83356208
At least Marvel Studios make fun films and actually care about their characters.
Fox only cares about money and underage little boys.
>>83315057
Still the funnest capeshit of the year.
fite me
>>83356292
>"A-at least muh Marvel"
lol christ I may have enjoyed Apocalypse but I won't deny it had problems.
Like I said ditch your friends and find some Marvel shills to hang out with instead.
>underage little boys
That's not what a twink is you retard.
>>83356430
True, this movie >>>>> Deadpool
>>83356430
Unintentional funniest maybe.
It raped the X-Men franchise so hard it made X3 the Last Stand look good.
