Why is Tony Stark stealing Peter's shit?
I CANT READ THIS FUCK YOU!
>>83288841
i dunno, ant man.
ANTSSS
>>83288841Not sure if it just me but it feels like Slott and Bendis would prefer to swap their main comics
>>83288841
It is not stealing if it is upgrading.
Do you complain if some guy break into your house and give you 500,000 dollars and Free video games to you? And then fix your car while leaving out.
>>83288903
But the weird bit is Peter is basically Stark these days given his own science corporation. This kind of like Reed and Pym particles now
>>83288903
It is if the guy doesn't know how cars work. How the fuck does Tony know what a "working" webshooter is? Is he going to lower the pressure needed to shoot webs? Because that's so that only people with super-strength, like the various Spider characters can use them (until other writers don't know that). Is he going to remove the double-tap function, so that webs can be launched faster? That's so you don't web your wrists every time you throw a punch.
Next you'll be saying Reed Richards should build War Machine's next armor. Leave the upgrading to people who have stress-tested this shit.
>>83288841
Because Peter is stealing Tony Stark's shtick.
Pretending to be your own bodyguard is a silly secret identity.
>>83288899
But Miles got his Web shooters from Ultimate Peter
>>83289419
Given that we don't know exactly how Miles's new history is, post-Secret Wars, maybe Peter DID. Actually, fuck, what is Miles's motivation in 616?
Iron Man's "armor" is just a skin tight suit with some separated segments.
>>83289507
Isn't he aware of the fact that his old universe and supporting cast is gone for good and he's now living in an entirely new world?
So, since there are two Spider-mans in 616 one, how do they differentiate them?
Like if someone says "Go get Spider-man", how do they know which one to get?
>>83289419
Miles has been around since 2011, the smart thing to do would be to make his powers a result of Spider-Island like what happened with Anya.
>>83289669
No
Molecule man made him 'always part of 616'
Because reasons. I guess just rebuilding 1610 wasn't worth the burger
So if Peter, Miles, -and- Miguel are all using the Spider-Man name, how do people in the Marvel universe differentiate and address them?
If all three were in a room and someone goes "yo, Spidey!" what happens?
>>83289949
It's Spider, future-Spidey, and Black Spider-man
>>83288997
Yeah Parker has like nine million specialized kinds of webbing now. It'd be like him wackying up one of Tonys friends and iron man suit.
>>83289949
What about if you're, say, Kingpin and you want to put a hit out on Spider-man.
How do you describe him?
>I want Spider-man dead
>Which one?
>The black one.
>But two of them wear black
>No I mean the one is African American
>You know what he looks like under his mask?
>No, but he just sounds black
>That's a bit presumptive, isn't it, Mr. Fisk?
>>83289888
I mean It was only a one old burger. Miles did come out ahead in that swap.
>>83289974
Very, very few people know Miguel is from the future or even a separate person from the one in red and blue. Hell, a lot of the time, he shows up and people think he's -the- Spider-Man just wearing a different costume and acting strangely.
>>83290019
Miguel has a white costume now.
>>83288841
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Keep Miles away from Spiderman please
>>83290019
That's silly. Fisk would just order them all to be killed. Nigga, do you even Kingpin?
>>83290099
The skull on his chest looks pretty Punishery now
>>83290099
I liked his old costume. I hate this one.
>>83290165
Do you have any idea how much it costs to put out a hit on Spider-man?
Please be fiscally responsible.
>>83289419
Then ultimate Peter knocked him out and stole them back after an unsuccessful robbery attempt.
>>83290212
He would consider it fiscally responsible to eliminate 3 potential problems to his empire.
>>83290212
>Do you have any idea how much it costs to put out a hit on Spider-man?
Considering how many of Spidey's rogues, who are on a higher power-level than probably 99/100 assassins, would do it for free?
50 bucks
>>83290212
Please be.....FISKally...responsible
>>83290325
>Considering how many of Spidey's rogues, who are on a higher power-level than probably 99/100 assassins, would do it for free?
Given how alive Peter is, you evidently get what you pay for
>>83288841
Are Pete and Tony on opposite sides for the new Civil War?
Will Miles' be this one's Peter? In the sense that Tony manipulates him to join his cause?
>>83290099
>Dubs in 99
Most people call him Spider-man 2099. Because he came out of 2099 and people started calling him out.
I guess People will call him "Scarlet-spider". Because Kaine and ben are dead, And miles fits the scarlet spider more than both of them (costume wise).
>>83290419
Gee, I wonder who's name is on all the comic book covers. I think that's probably the reason that he's still alive.
>>83290491
Miles should call himself Scorpion given how Venom Blast reliant he is
What?
He's not above taking someone else's secret identity
>>83290491
>Because Kaine and ben are dead
Kaine is alive, he resurrected himself for a third time in the final pages of Spider-Verse.
>>83290545
>He's not above taking someone else's secret identity
1. The costume will be ugly.
2. That is part of miles powers. He can turn himself invisible too.
Next pages, please?
>>83288841
They're swapping places.
>>83290099
Why are modern remakes of future super hero costumes shit? Classic case of "If its not broken, don't fix it".
>>83291484
What's with everyone getting those two toned shoes?
>>83289161
There's no super strength pressure needed to shoot webs, just the double-tap function. Peter used his web-slingers when he lost his powers back when Stan Lee was still writing him.
What Tony CAN do is rearrange the web feed system so that the cartridges rotate out automatically, toss in the web-ball feature that Ben Reilly invented, integrate communicators and a GPS, or other fun bits.
Pete knows chemicals. Stark is a mechanical genius. He's an expert at miniaturization as well, and he could probably pack a ton of shit into web-shooters that Pete wouldn't get. Shit, Pete's had them for fifty years and he still has to manually reload the web cartridges.
>>83290029
And yet they didn't tell Read to take food with him when he went in, that could have gone so much easier.
>>83290019
YouTube knows he is a person of colour.
>>83291484
God, It isn't a bad costume.
It stills looks pretty cool and terrifying.
>>83290099
Ugh, what did they do? Miguel's costume was literally perfect, why change it?
>>83292822
maybe Pete doesn't want too many moving parts
>>83291484
>>83293700
The mask looks pretty silly, he looks like he has big saggy jowls. That being said, it's overall not bad just worse than the old one by comparison, since the old one was pretty much perfect. Same issue with >>83290099
>>83293803
Good thing that those are Miles' webshooters and not Pete's, then.
>>83293828
and who is Miles going to go to when all those fiddly moving parts interfere with the slinging of webs?
>>83293879
Stark, of course.
What, are the webshooters created by a fifteen year old child somehow beyond the grasp of one of the top five mechanical engineers on the planet?
>>83293879
It won't. In fact Tony's web-slingers will probably make him a cool refreshing drink after Miles beats some bad guy's ass.
>>83293915
what experience does Tony Stark have with web-slinging, especially what experience does he have over someone who has been doing it since age 15?
>>83289669
Nah man, that's far too interesting
>>83293976
I'm sure the genius will have to just slog his way through it.
>>83294032
when you go to get your car fixed, do you go to a guy who's been doing it his entire life, or do you go to the smart guy who's seen it done a few times?
>>83293976
Stark doesn't know anything about slinging shields, but he managed to make a remote control device for Cap's shield. Cap only ditched it after a few months because it threw the balance off just enough to irritate him.
He doesn't know anything about astronaut training, but he made multiple space suits that performed to perfection.
He didn't know anything about powered armor or medicine, but he made the first Iron Man suit based around an electromagnetic chest plate on his first try.
>>83289507
>Actually, fuck, what is Miles's motivation in 616?
To be the best Spider-Man because he is black.
In all seriousness, Miles has no reason to exist in 616, and blending him into it the way they did was retarded. All his character development and motivation is gone, and now he just... is.
Where does new-Miles get his webbing?
Is it Ganke or does Pete stop by every once in a while to fill up Miles' webbing stores?
Paste-pot Pete, if I remember correctly, lamented being unable to figure out Pete's webbing formula, so I'm guessing it's a closely guarded secret
>>83294077
so he didn't know anything about slinging shields, and it annoyed the shield slinger enough that he stopped using it?
do you not see a parallel here?
>>83294137
Basically, Cap loved it for the first while, used it for a few months, then decided that it threw off the balance just enough that it wasn't 100% perfect anymore. Only 99%.
So Cap ditched it.
>>83294059
>guy who's been doing it his entire life
If Parker is more than 25, I'd be surprised, which means he's been doing it about 10 years. when means Tony's a fucking genius, older and until recently the only one of the two who had 2 nickels to rub together. Team Stark here.
>>83294127
>so I'm guessing it's a closely guarded secret
Yet Tony seems to have figured it out or better yet improved on it.
>>83294189
and now Peter has the money and Tony is broke sooooooooooo
>>83294230
>They find out Tony's version doesnt dissolve correctly and becomes corrosive.
If only.
>>83289949
This is literally the plot to Bendis's first arc of Spider-Man. Black Cat puts out a hit on Spider-Man (Pete) and they mark the wrong one (Miles).
>>83290099
What I don't understand is how 2015 tech can outpace 2099 tech in the costume.
>>83294331
it's best not to think about it too hard
>>83294243
And yet he can still afford billion dollar pieces of armor. Sad thing is that when it's all over with, Peter will be going back to his broke ass self and you know I'm right.
>>83294230
Well I guess Reed DOES know more about Pym Particles than Hank, so Tony can know webbing better than PeterTurns out Stark's finicky high tech version can only take one specific formula of webbing
>>83294376
>Tony going to take over Peter company.
>Peter going spend fuck-ton of money on bullshit.
>Peter going to get kidnap by kaine and kaine going to run his company.
>The company is going to be BTFO.
>Doc ock going to get back his company.
>>83294604
>Tony and MJ get out of his private helicopter as he walks over to Peter and asks him to smell his fingers.
You forgot one.
>>83288901
Far, far too late for that
They probably would've done equally bad jobs
>>83290019
Us well-spoken black people are, audio-wise, indistiguishable from whites unless you actually see us talking. Or unless we get pissed.
>>83294604
All I want from Spider-Man right now if for Slott to die suddenly, Yost to take over, and it to become a Spider-Man team-up book where Pete uses his company to fund the Spider-Squad composed of him, Kaine, Miguel, Miles, and Silk. He could employ them all legitimately at Parker industries (Miles is the kid intern) and they could fight crime when shit hits the fan.
We'll never have nice things.
>>83294769
>Yost
Yes.
>Team Up
Not as the main book. But that sounds like a neat B title.
I'm just beyond ready for this Parker Industries shit to go away. It wasn't interesting when it was called Horizon Labs, and it certainly isn't interesting now. I don't read Spider-Man for super science and office drama. I read Spider-Man for a more human/street level superhero.
>>83294769
A team up book will probably happen with how well the spidey spinoff books like Miles and Gwen's books are doing
>>83288841
Marvel is making Iron Man the face of the company instead of Spider-Man. In order to make people care about Iron Man and stop caring so much about Spider-Man, they need to switch shit.
>>83288841
Because Peter keeps neglecting it.
>>83289419
>Ultimate Peter
Who?
>>83295574
I know the movies boosted Ironman's popularity by leaps and bounds (and a rocket-ride to the moon), but that still seems like a really tall order.
>>83295047
But depending on the team that could be awesome or terrible.
>>83294091
what the fuck happened to 616 miles? what the fuck did pete find out
>>83295668
The guy who died, came back to say Miles is totally cool and legitimate, fucked off to nowhere because responsibility is best shoved off unto a kid even younger than himself, and then was squashed when the universe imploded
>>83295697
it's what Nick Fury whispered to de-worthy Thor
>>83295697
That shit has likely been swept under the rug, with the post-secret wars erasing that miles from existence.
>>83289419
and Ultimate Peter got his (last) webshooters from Ultimate Stark
>>83295626
Oh snap!!!
>>83290099
>2099
>dub 9s
Checked
>>83295697
Supposedly supposed to be revealed in Spider-Men 2.
>>83295697
Nothing of import.
It was just a plot hook to be used in the future, but then Spider-Verse prevented Bendis from picking it up, and Secret Wars collapsed the universes, throwing that plot hook in the trash.
Can somebody post the next page?
>>83288841
Pretty sure Miles doesn't belong to Peter.
>>83296111
>>83296296
You are right.
Miles doesn't belong to Peter.
BUT HIS ASS belong to Peter.
>>83296296
neither does MJ :^)
>>83296342
Go to hell Hank.
>>83289699
Nigga Miguel is there too
>>83294059
Peter had never gone web-swinging before when he invented them.
Are we seriously suggesting that Tony Stark is incapable of examining, reproducing, and improving on something that a literal child invented?
>ITT: people think a genius with no experience whatsoever in web shooting is better at doing an artifact about web shooting than a genius that created them at 15 and has 10+ years of experience with the now the respurces to upgrade them
People what the fuck
>>83296797
>>83297022
Both of you are retarded, please shut up.
>>83288841
Bendis likes NTR.
>>83289369
Crane no! That's the wrong wealthy crimefighter!
>>83297022
Stark's an engineer. He has literally taken alien technology apart, figured out how it worked, then put it back together better than before.
I think he can manage a glorified silly string projector. It can't be that difficult if Peter managed to make and perfect it as a child, with the budget of an orphaned basement dweller.
>>83296517
Michael Jackson?
>>83297022
i thought smarter people than stark have tried to recreate peter's web fluids but for whatever reason, e.g., totemic, only peter knows the correct way to engineer it
otherwise everyone who doesn't already fly could be swinging around since bindlestiff peter could afford it
>>83298007
It's been replicated.
Seeing as how this is a general purpose Spider-person thread
Is anyone else super disappointed with Spider-Man 2099? LIke... the art seems bad, the writing seems bad (which is crazy because I normally love Peter David, I have his whole X-Factor run).
Is it just me? Am I being too picky?
Stark can take Miles if he wants, it still wont make him relevant
>>83298485
>>83298485
nigga you can hate him all you want but he's relevant
>>83298555
Eh, to each their own. Personally I dont care for any of the spider knock offs, but thats just me.
>>83288899
I don't like nuTony. His 22yr old Not-RDJ personality kills it for me
>>83298555
How? As others have said, right now he just kind of exists for no reason in universe. How is he relevant?
>>83290099
checked
and new suit looks like shit
>>83298856
1. Well, We don't know his Origins in this universe.
2. He probably be helpful in the civil war 2.
3. He is part of a small avengers.
At least he got his own thing to do.
So is Tony's plan to take everyone in Peters life and give them upgrades? Because after seeing that Iron Spider Mary Jane, Im expecting Tarantula Aunt May or something
>>83299073
Iron Spider Mary Jane? What? Did I miss an issue of ASM?
>>83299203
I dont think its happened yet but its a leaked pic thats circled around.
>>83297309
I'm sure he can reproduce it no problem, but can he upgrade them without messing with the mechanics of swinging?
>>83299578
Probably, yeah. It's not like there's not a lot of room for change in there. Remember, Ben Reilly even modified his to fire impact-webbing, which hit harder and acted differently than the normal webbing.
If you can modify it to fire balls of webbing that are actually dangerous to hit normal people with, as well as adding ranged stingers, then the actual mechanics must have some more room for improvement. Especially with someone who's built his career on miniaturization.
>>83294708
>us well-spoken blacks are quite civilized until we get mad and drop the facade
>>83299756
Ben has all of Peter's memories, it'd be pretty easy for him to modify them.
>>83300279
The fact that there's room for modification shows that there's room for improvement.
And Tony Stark is the kind of guy who can examine the webshooters, find where there's wasted space or room for improvements/modifications that don't interfere with the original function, and make those mods/improvements.
>>83295708
At least he died with MJ
>>83291484
i honestly dont see the issue, like it looks goofy as fuck but i'm pretty sure its just because of the way he's drawn
like with a better artist it'd look fine
>>83294189
Peter has been pushing 30 since the mid 90s.
>>83294331
It's easier to replace parts if you use modern technology.
>>83294769
So Web Warriors without the multiverse?
Speaking of Tony being a dad.
>>83290211
I really like this one and hated his old one.
