So Dan Abnett made it sound like the bulk of the immediate follow-up for the DCU Rebirth storyline was going to be done in his Titans comic, which starts in June. However, judging from a couple other threads it seems like a lot of people haven't read it yet. SO I'M HERE TO FIX THAT.
Strap in, folks.
>>83284547
I personally don't have a lot of background with the Titans, apart from the CN cartoon. And that line-up is in a completely different book post-Rebirth.
Still I think this is a good intro to the general structure of the team and the characters if you're new like me.
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>>83284547
That grave should just say "(Insert Titan's Name Here)".
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>>83284641
It's sad how "A TITAN DIES!" has become a punchline for DC comics.
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>>83284547
Thanks for the story time!
>>83284641
Haha. Brutal.
>>83284688
Speaking of Abnett in Rebirth, he's got an interview out talking about his work on Aquaman too.
>http://www.newsarama.com/29497-abnett-on-aquaman-s-rebirth-prposal-to-mera-aqualad-s-return-plus-first-look.html
>" And further down the road, Abnett and DC Chief Creative Office Geoff Johns will be working together on "Rise of the Seven Seas," a storyline Johns teased when he was on "New 52"'s Aquaman title."
yeeaaaaah right
>>83284716
Can't read right now but I appreciate this
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>>83284746
No problem, just be sure to keep it bumped, or you can always find it in the archives later on.
I have nothing else to do this three-day weekend other than put off grading papers for as long as possible.
>>83284716
lol, good luck with that Abnett.
But maybe Johns just gave Abnett his blessing to tell the story without him or will be co-plotter or something. Since he's apparently doing Harras' job for him and Abnett seems to be one of the writers to follow on Johns' Rebirth/Darkseid War plots.
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>>83284585
It's a decent update to the the '66 Titans lineup. Mal and Karen are both completely different characters for no reason. IDK if Tempest has appeared in the Aquaman books before now, but he's changed too. Everyone else is at least consistent with their New 52 characterizations.
>>83284806
Whoa. I'm new to the titans books. Who is this guy?
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>>83284849
You'll find out!
>>83284832
That might be something they explore in the Titans book on the other side of Rebirth, Wally might remember the rest of the team with completely different personalities.
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>>83285098
Someone want to give me a background on Lilith here? I had no idea she was a Titans character until I read this.
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>>83285172
Sorry for the delay, had to take out my laundry.
>>83285132
She doesn't really have much background
She's one of the least important Titans. Like even in Titan reunions she usually gets left out since people focus on the fab five, so even Garth has that over her.
She was basically Raven 2.0 in the late 90s/early 00s since Jurgens and the other writers were pretty much banned from using Raven since she was a golden aura or something.
>>83285286
Oh Roy you self-destructive idiot.
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>>83285301
Thanks.
>>83285326
I dunno why I'm hyped for Titans withWallybc I don't really dig this. Fun to pick up all the obvious Flash hints tho
>>83285132
Lilith was a psychic/mysterious cage dancer the team met at a nightclub when they were all still teenagers. She can see the future and has premonitions and stuff. In the 90's they find out she's Mr. Jupiter's daughter (Mr. Jupiter was the richest man in the world and sponsored the Teen Titans as a public service/social activist group in their v1 no-costume era) and she joins the Jurgens not-Teen Titans team as Omen. She never did much.
She's Raven without the demon powers, basically.
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>>83285357
This mini feels super decompressed to me, which is a problem. Feels like this could've been done better in six issues rather than eight.
>>83285301
Well, you could say that Raven is Lilith 2.0, since she was a member of the Titans in the second part of their first runthat is also the shittiest one since all the member abandon their costumes for the biggest part of it and the stories, while still being silly like the first part (and, really, most of the silver age's stories) tried to act as if they were serious
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>>83285559
I love how Abnett writes Dick in this miniseries.
>>83285357
This is the problem
>>83285415
Abnett was supposed to get 12 issues and this was clearly the "Wally West returns" book, but DC interrupted it part way through to set up Rebirth with Wally as their figurehead, so Titans Hunt got cut down on issues to 8. So the first 5-6 issue arc got stretched out too long to lead into Rebirth and the big reveal Abnett was building up was taken out from under him.
Why else would you get all these weird Flash references like this? >>83284989
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>>83285634
>Abnett was supposed to get 12 issues and this was clearly the "Wally West returns" book, but DC interrupted it part way through to set up Rebirth with Wally as their figurehead, so Titans Hunt got cut down on issues to 8. So the first 5-6 issue arc got stretched out too long to lead into Rebirth and the big reveal Abnett was building up was taken out from under him.
Ah that makes more sense.
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>>83285678
i can't get over how stupid he looks
>>83285836
I for one am glad that we seem to be completely ignoring all of Finch's bullshit with Donna.
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>>83285866
He looks like if a redneck guy I went to high school with decided to be a superhero.
Which isn't necessarily bad, I guess.
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>>83286052
Abnett saying that he's taking inspiration from Haney/Cardy Teen Titans is pretty exciting
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>>83286100
Is that a good run to check out?
I guess a better question would be is it even collected in the first place so I CAN check it out.
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>>83286345
This isn't a Rebirth title you inbred fuck. It started in 2015
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>>83286398
It leads into Abnett's Titans book, which IS a Rebirth title though.
Thanks for bumping the thread.
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>>83284806
Is that Dick in the top left? He looks middle aged
>>83286033
She goes directly for the neck.
Must be amazonian training
>>83286556
Alright folks, I'm going to take a quick break to finish my laundry.
>>83286612
Awww Don and Hank.
Best duo.
>>83286612
Thans for the storytime op
I'll bump. I'll read it when you're done.
Thanks senpai x
>>83284547
I wish SIQUUEIRA was the artist on titans Rebirth.
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>>83285078
>You were right, Dick!
>You were right all along!
>Garth is the key
>Find us, Dick
So, let me see if I got this straight
>This is new 52
>There have never been a Teen Titans team before, outside of the one made by Red Robin
>All the different original members of the Titans have had their own stories separated completely from the others (so they basically never met each other until now)
>Now they are meeting each other because this mysterious guy need them for whatever kind of evil plan he is programming and is using Lilith ad a mean to it, even if she's trying to avoid it
It's everything right until this point?
Because it would look like that they were actually going to insert the "10 years stolen" plot twist for the whole DC universe in this saga like >>83285668 said
>>83286983
Whoops, forgot the last point
>And now the Titans are going to remember the fact that they were once part of that team that technically didn't ever exist in New 52 Earth
>>83286983
Pretty much. They are bringing back JSA and The Legion too.
They are going play out Nu52 as a nefarious plot to alter the world and return most of the universe to how it was before.
But they are still doing some time-whammy shenanigans as Damian will star in a separate Teen Titans team that includes characters like a young Raven so presumably some characters will remain de-aged and without previous memories.
>>83287140
Just remember, story > continuity (except when the continuity makes for a better story)
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>>83287140
That is one of the part I would like to see the most: people finding out all of a sudden that once they were different in some important element that shouldn't be possible to change. BB and Raven interacting with Starfire that is "suddenly" ten years older than them or Batman that basically changed his Robin every couple of yearsIf it wasn't that he's the one that triggered the whole Rebirth thing, I would have loved seeing Kid Flash waking up one day and say "Wtf, why am I black now!?"
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>>83287450
>that art error in the top panel
It took me a couple of double-takes to figure out they're not supposed to be floating.
Also I remember reading like the first two issues of New 52 Hawk and Dove and nothing else. Guess that goes for everyone else because I think they've done fuck all in the DCU since then.
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>>83287309
I'm more and more convinced that the worst thing ever happened to comics is not the Dark Age, is not the whole "SJW" that is happening right now in Marvel, but is the invention of copy-paste
>>83287571
It's a joy to see beat panels that actually show time passing through changing small details, rather than just assuming it by virtue of how the eye reads across the page.
>>83287604
Yes, Roy.
Yes they are.
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>>83287631
>it's still red
Dick why
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>>83287613
What?
Speedy is a fine name.
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>>83287700
It's not bad, but it comes off as more "pet nickname" rather than "superhero moniker"
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>>83287604
While I can accept those cases (like the one where Iron-Man want a "bearded high five" from Strange), in other cases it's obvious it was done just for laziness, like in the page a quoted or in the infamous "Bobby, you're gay" from X-Men (where Jean even had the "lines of movement" around her hands, so we are basically supposed to imagine that she is shrugging non-stop for something like a minute
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>>83287908
Whoops, my name fell off there.
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HANK SMASH
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>>83285788
>Those songs
Was Dick ever in the Philippines on a mission? 90% of that list are from Filipino artists.
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>>83288067
I'm pretty sure the art team is Filipino
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>>83287041
It depends on how you look at it. From our perspective, yes. The original Fab Five never happened. In universe they existed but were forgotten about -- just your typical retcon.
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>>83288186
My problem is actually being responded right now, actually. It looked like they were remembering facts that were pre-New 52, but apparently they simply had forgotten that they had formed the Titans in the New 52 universe too
Was it explained how the Red Robin ended up choosing the same name? He actually found out about it, lucky guess orit's something like a curse where if someone is Robin he is unable to think names for his team other than Teen Titans?
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>>83288322
The DCU has a tendency to replicate aspects of itself when those parts are removed.
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>>83287520
>Blue mask, white eyes
>>83288078
>White mask, blue eyes
Why?
>>83288508
That's not the only art fuck-up in that issue. Guess it got rushed out the door.
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>>83285624
Yes this is what happened.
>>83287200
Spoilers.. and pics in a storytime!
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>>83287262
Wow that is oddly conspicuous.
Wonder if anything was missing.
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>>83288593
Oh shit, did that get leaked from the upcoming TItans book or what?
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>>83288763
And on THAT bombshell, I'm going to go grab dinner then be back to finish this up with the last two issues.
Please keep the thread bumped in the meantime!
>>83287520
Ass
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>>83288624
WHAT THE HELL
>>83288642
no. It was planned all along, and as noted. cancelled, and Rebirth stealing the story.
Figured I'd share. I doubt those pages will be seen otherwise.
>>83288850
That was Wally running by as he was trying to find somebody who remembered him. But he was going so fast that all that this group saw was a pile of rocks fly up.
>>83289062
I think the anon who shared pics implies Wally was supposed to be part of flasbacks but Rebirth aborted the plans.
>>83288786
This
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>>83288874
Thanks for posting them then.
HOME STRETCH HERE WE GO.
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>>83289231
Sortof.
The pages were intended to have Wally missing the first time.
And then, the Wally reveal would return to those flashback pages, and show Wally, who was there the whole time.
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>>83289824
It's one of those things where I could get mad about this story getting undercut like that but Rebirth was good enough that I guess I don't mind as much.
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>>83289941
In hindsight, knowing that the one they had sacrificed was most likely supposed to be Wally makes me rather interested in seeing who they chose as a substitute
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>>83286196
I just realised Abnett is writing NAMOR, not Garth
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>>83290309
What's Garth like normally?
>>83290339
Fuck forgot the page
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>>83290098
>You've gotta find first gear in your giant robot car
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>>83290440
LAST ISSUE
NOBODY DIES
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>>83288624
I guess this still sort of works if you spin it as Wally's whole schtick of being erased from the timeline.
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>>83289941
yeah.
I am a bit annoyed for the readers, who paid money for an incomplete story.
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>>83290731
Someone refresh my memory, does Roy have ANY connection to Green Arrow in the New 52? I didn't pay any attention to Red Hood and the Outlaws so I have no idea.
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>>83290515
Is that a thing for Wonder Girl, hating to be called that way?
Because I think I remember the one from New52 Teen Titans saying the same thingOn that matter, how is that series?
I don't expect masterpieces or thought-provoking stories, but is it at least entertaining and reasonable?
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>>83290851
New 52 Teen Titans? Oh man, it goes from just mediocre to Storytime of Pain territory.
>Bar-Torr
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>>83290851
new 52 TT was one of the worst new 52 books
the volume after Lobdell was mostly mediocre with good art until Rocafort left and it became just mediocre
>>83290752
Yeah if I remember right he started as the guy who built his trick arrows. Ollie ditched him because of the alcoholism and they're still on the outs
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>Dick
>it's coming
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DUN DUN
DUNNNNNNNN
And that's everything. Thanks for reading along. Supposedly this is going to be picked up with Abnett's Titans series start here in June, so if you're interested in the team (or just really want to see ginger Wally again, like me), be sure to pick that up.
>>83284654
>You look like a teenager son
No. No he doesn't. At all. Judd Nelson made a more convincing teenager. When are cape comic artists going to learn what those look like?
>>83284585
>Everytime he get's a FLASH of something, he thinks is the is good memory I can't remember?
Fucking hell, it was right there on the first page all this time.
>>83291080
Thanks for the stoytime. Even if everything didn't go to Abnett's plan and it got cut off, I feel it still managed to lead into Rebirth well enough.
Here's hoping any plot threads he dropped will be picked back up in the regular series.Too bad Booth's art is physically painful to read.
>>83291158
I don't mind Booth's stuff THAT much, I do agree with the people who say he really needs a better colorist. The heavy metallic style just makes his lines look weird.
>>83291138
To be fair we all did call that out when the first issue came out but eventually paranoia set in and people thought DC was just bullying Wallyfags.
>>83291184
Yeah, the colorist he works with (I'm pretty sure it's always the same guy, though the name escapes me) is really half his problem. His work would be a lot more tolerable with a better one.
You can't deny that Booth's faces are really bad, though.
>>83291338
There's a lot of otherwise good artists who draw weird faces.
Shit, I love Gary Franks' art, but his smiles are creepy.
>>83291338
When I first saw this cover I thought it implied Wally would be a villain
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>>83291338
TITANS: REBIRTH #1
Written by DAN ABNETT
Art and cover by BRETT BOOTH and NORM RAPMUND
Variant cover by MIKE CHOI
Retailers: This issue will ship with two covers. Please see the order form for details.
Friends. Teammates. Titans. Donna Troy, Arsenal, Garth, Lilith and Nightwing were all that and more until a mysterious force erased their memories, forcing them to forget what they could accomplish together. Reunited with their memories returned, the Titans must destroy the interdimensional demon that broke them apart and threatens reality itself.
One-shot • On sale JUNE 15 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T
TITANS #1
Written by DAN ABNETT
Art and cover by BRETT BOOTH and NORM RAPMUND
Variant cover by MIKE CHOI
Retailers: This issue will ship with two covers. Please see the order form for details.
"REMEMBER THE TITANS" Chapter One
After an old ally returns to the team, the Titans set their sights on a dangerous enemy with the power to change reality itself! But the Titans have never faced a threat this massive before, and with so much on the line, will they be able to stand united as a team? Or will their past mistakes be their undoing?
On sale JULY 27 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T
>>83291389
It's actually a reference to the classic, pre-"darkness" Silver Age covers where you would usually find Green Lantern trying to kill Superman with kriptonite, Superman torturing Jimmy Olsen, and others of the same kind
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TITANS #2
Written by DAN ABNETT
Art and cover by BRETT BOOTH and NORM RAPMUND
Variant cover by MIKE CHOI
Retailers: This issue will ship with two covers. Please see the order form for details.
“Remember the Titans” part two! As the Titans prepare to do the unthinkable in order to defeat the intergalactic demon that stole time itself from theDC Universe, enter the Fearsome Five! But are the sinister quintet acting of their own accord…or are greater forces at work?
On sale AUGUST 24 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T
>>83290500
Nooo what happened to the art, the sexy beautiful art?
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>>83291523
So you can basically consider the Rebirth story a prequel for the other stories of a series? (this not only for the Titans, but for Superman, Batman and co.)
>>83291582
Yeah it's basically the real #1 to cover the introductory stuff.
What was the Convergence lead up to this?
>>83289062
I don't get it. Why nobody remembers Wally? Wasn't there a Post-N52 Wally all along? Or he just started to exist into this universe the moment Barry pulled him from the Speed Force?
>>83291653
I don't think there was anything. There were a few Titans books in Convergence that maybe they used to justify bringing this team back into continuity but nothing that I can remember directly connecting.
>>83287520
THAT DELICIOUS PLUMP ASS!!!
I guess I'll ask here regarding the Convergence spinoff comics. Did Telos end? I recall he got off the braniac planet and fought Paralax. Was there and end I missed or forgot?
