How can Marvel even compete
>>83277895
With live action
>>83277895
Snyder
>>83277895
With live-action movies and Netflix-original shows.
All kike created characters to get the shekels from the goyim.
>>83277895
They did a good job with EMH but JLU is still the best.
Now DC animation is dead (until JLA) and Marvel has been shit for a long time.
>>83277947
>Now DC animation is dead
Pure action cartoons are dead in general. If it's not heavily peppered with childish jokes and humor and doesn't have merchandising potential, like selling followup toys for example, networks won't even touch it with a ten foot pole.
>>83277947
EMH could have toppled JLU if they didn't let Loeb come in and absolutely fuck it so he could ram out Assemble.
>>83278127
Pretty much, Assemble was rushed the fuck out of so that they have a cartoon resembling the live-action movies that were hot at the time.
Like how the current Guardians of the Galaxy cartoon is basically riding on the coattails of movie's popularity.
Why doesn't DC just give Batman or Superman or even Wonder Woman to Netflix so they make a good show? Cartoon or live action idc.
>>83277895
>>83278162
After BvS being a critical failure, DC and WB have come to a conclusion that they have to take a different direction with their non-comics media (booting out that idiot Snyder was a starting point). We'll have to wait and see what they have planned out, maybe we will get some of that stuff you mentioned.
LIVING ON THE EDGE
>>83278162
Because that's a terrible idea
>DC had half a dozen fantastic cartoon series over the span of the last two decades
>losing out in market share and movies
what happened
>>83278201
>they have to take a different direction with their non-comics media
Video games.
>>83277895
with the MCU anon
haven't you been paying attention?
Earth's Mightiest Heroes was how, until Loeb decided to be a douche
>>83278292
Iron Man happened
>>83278162
They had a sweet thing going with CN and that went to shit.
I want my DC Nation back. Some of those shorts are just begging to become full shows.
>>83278321
Tell that to the executives who are literal out-of-touch fossils, still not knowing what video games are.
>>83278505
You mean the fossil executives that allowed the Arkham games?
![[Agitation Intensifies].gif](https://i.imgur.com/yTyYpn8.gif "[Agitation Intensifies].gif")
>>83278372
>we will never get an Animal Man or Batman of Shanghai cartoon
>>83278127
>Thor's arm
>Cap's spine
Hail hydra.
>>83277895
Summarize the basis of each of those characters in one sentence each and you'll see why.
>>83277895
>there will never be a redo of Justice League with a better character designer
It hurts
>>83277895
Marvel BTFO
>>83278259
FIGHTING CRIME SPINNING WEBS
>>83277895
Regarding powers the MCU can't, Doomsday alone would wreck the avengers with a single blast.
>>83277901
>he thinks the MCU is better than the DCAU
Stop reminding me that we're not getting John Stewart, you prick.
>>83278372
>There will never be a full Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld cartoon
>>83278162
DC decided that the only way to promote other heroes was to sabotage Batman and Superman.
That's why they literally cancelled the Elseworlds thing.
Martha
>>83278127
Don't forget Spectacular Spider-Man too.
>>83278201
>(booting out that idiot Snyder was a starting point).
Do you mean "would be a starting point"? They haven't done it yet. And in fact they seem to be blaming everything they can except Snyder.
>>83277895
They can, they just cancel them.
>>83278198
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRAbdDe-iY8
>>83277895
DC can do what Marvel is doing lately.
>>83277895
With a huge marketing department, a multiyear smear campaign, and payoffs to online comics review sites
>>83278127
whoa there, let's not go crazy. EMH isn't bad but it is very much held back by the worst of Marvel's practices. There are few actual character stories and a massive over reliance on events and crossovers/cameos.
Spectacular Spiderman was a much better cartoon, and much closer to DCAU quality.
>>83278321
I mean, they have the Arkham games and Injustice.
>>83278372
Blame Mattel.
>>83282021
WB is going to start it's own Videogamic Universe.
>>83277912
Eh, I just started watching Daredevil. I stopped after two episodes.
>Most everyone I work with would still rather sit through the Felicity and Friends hour
>>83279694
>And he would be right and you should add DCU to it as well.
Is there any truth to the rumor that Timm & Dini & Tucker & Co. never moved on to higher profile stuff (LIKE BEING IN CHARGE OF THE GODDAMN JOKE OF A DCCU) because WB execs hate them for pitching original shows and then making them successful despite WB execs wanting them to fail?
>>83282223
mouseketeer, pls
>>83282223
Lmao
>>83282176
Daredevil is tremendously overrated and poorly put together. Jessica Jones is Arrow tier bad.
>>83282303
Nice company wars, Bro. As usual, anyone who doesn't drink the kool-aid just MUST be on the other side. Go kill yourself, regenerate and then die in a fire.
>>83277901
>>83277912
>/tv/ shit
Am I the only one that thought OP was comparing their cartoons to each other on a comics and cartoons board?
I like the mcu, don't get me wrong, but why bring it up when it isn't relevant to the thread?
>>83282349
nah
>>83282176
I highly recommend watching it. It starts a bit slow. But the second season is so fuckin' worth it.
>>83282408
Personally I think there's two damning sins Daredevil commits:
Number one is that the dialogue is sophomoric and is delivered in the worst ways possible. People don't talk- they recite speeches like Rorschach's internal monologues at each other.
The second is that the whole thing looks ridiculously cheap. The best comparison is a film student's undergraduate project, or a low budget teleplay- the framing of each individual shot tends to be straight-on, which makes it look like it was shot on a camcorder. The sets are sparse and flat, and I swear I've seen sets that are supposed to be complex. They don't try and build a world with them; they're just places for things to happen in. And the choreography is some of the worst I've seen in anything above a daytime Soap Opera. Everyone knows fights in film are faked, but the ways they're faked in film differs from stage shows.
The best example of this I can give you is Frank's prison fight- whenever he stabs someone, he slides his fingers forwards over the "blade" and bumps them with the butt of his hand. This is common in stage shows because it's easy and you aren't looking too closely, or in movies when it's shot from a proper angle. Daredevil shoots this straight on, so you can see him not stab the other person. This is really poor form, and destroys any illusion that the fight is happening.
It's not just tat, though; every punch is from the elbow, people are clearly punched past, and the whole thing generally looks like a bunch of kids playing.
Then there's the hallway fight that people praise, where the Daredevil "actor" over-theatrically plays up being "tired" like a silent movie actor would. If you watch it with the sound off it looks like a Marx Brothers skit, especially when he ducks people's punches and tries to do jumping kicks off the wall.
There's a ton of other problems (the pacing, the so called "comic relief," the costume...) But the blatantly bad filmmaking is something I can't forgive
>>83282407
Welcome to every Marvel thread post BvS.
>Avengers story time thread!
>"Wow this comic sucks."
>"Butthurt DCuck, you mad that BvS flopped?"
>>83282421
>muh punisher
Second season of Daredevil is a MASSIVE step down in quality if your only reason for watching isn't Frank. It's a mess.
>>83278127
This.
If you look at EMH's first season and compare it to JL's first season, EMH was unquestionably a better show.
Timm & Co took a long time getting how to make a team format work and had to learn that again when transitioning to JLU's half hour format.
Meanwhile, once EMH hit's Gamma World, shit's off the rails and amazing. Even the first half of season two was pretty good until the actual final episode of the Secret Invasion arc.
>>83282471
Hello pasta.
>>83282492
They can still brag about the $800 million it made because they all went & saw it 5 times apiece and pretending to like it instead of demanding a better product from DC.
>>83282471
Ravioli Ravioli give me the fucking pasta.
>>83282549
Meanwhile Mousketeers organized a campaign effort to prevent TMNT from breaking GoTG's streak.
>>83277895
Daily reminder that JLU & the Timmverse ended over a decade ago in 2004
Daily reminder Brave & The Bold ended five years ago and it's all been downhill from there
Daily reminder that all the DC DTVs in the last couple of years have been dog shit, especially the New 52 adaptations
Daily reminder that there's no competition because both Marvel & DC have garbage animation right now.
>>83282600
Nice company wars.
>>83282704
Well the topic of the thread IS company wars.
They can't.
Marvel can't make decent cartoons. The only one they have in their name was made by Sony.
>>83282882
No, it's the usual shit of "Oh, you are saying something about my brand so you just must be from the other brand" shit.
>>83282562
nice argument
>>83282613
Gods and Monsters was good nigger.
>>83282963
How is
>How can Marvel even compete
Not company wars?
OP could have just made a DCAU appreciation thread, but he chose not to.
>>83277901
honestly storywise nothing in the MCU comes close to the Cadmus arc
At first, I didn't like X-men Evolution, because it was ignoring all the stories set in the 90's X-men and it was my first exposure to reboot of a show I actually liked.
But after I while, it grew on me and it turned out to be quite good show.
It was still weird when apocalypse showed up, though, I was like "isn't this supposed to only happens when they turn adult or what?"
(sorry for messing my previous post attempts)
>>83283036
Which medal did you win in the Special Olympics? What part of people that say shit about your brand not automatically being with the other brand did you get confused about?
>>83282021
Evidence that it works should be proof, but it sounds like you're saying that it should be enough.
>>83283029
It was forgettable at best.
Fuck you, the shorts were significantly better than the actual movie.
>>83283108
Ironically, that's hurting DC more than Marvel.
Even if the coming DCCU movies manage to trump our expectations and actually get to be good, they will never top the DCAU and it will always suffer from the comparison, especially for hardcore fans.
They can ignore the the Marvel movies, but definitely not the DC cartoon and Justice league unlimited.
>>83283124
Wolverine and the X-men is pretty good too.
Not long ago I watched all the Marvel cartoons. The Xmen cartoons, Spectacular Spiderman, and to a lesser extent Silver Surfer are all really good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI0vtqxoG1k
how can anything in either live action universe top this moment?
>>83283264
>brobdingnagian
Oh God, my nipples
>>83283335
Q's word of the day calendar is really paying off
>>83283264
>President?! Do you know how much power I'd have to give up to be president?
Every time.
>>83283440
I prefer the next line
>That's right, conspiracy buff. I spent $75 million on a fake presidential campaign all just to tick Superman off.
>>83283440
>>83283648
Too bad it all went downhill after that.
>>83283720
what?
>>83283720
It went awesome after that. Great final fight and the heroes save the day.
>>83283785
Lexiac was a retarded twist Timm and co. made at the last minute because they didn't have a convenient bad guy to beat up when the plot with Cadmus became too nuanced.
>>83283826
Lexiac was the plan all along and is the reason of the whole speech.
>>83278127
never forget.
>>83283130
What the fuck are you talking about?
I was talking about the OP you idiot.
>>83281995
> There are few actual character stories
>That episode where Cap escapes from the Skrulls
>Dat Beta Ray Bill origin story
>Gamma World
>Hank leaving the Avengers, How to Steal an Ant-Man
>Technovore episode
>Panther reclining his throne
>Vision vs Purple Man'ed Avengers
>Kang the Conquer episodes
>Ultron building Jocasta
>Jan and Hank's marriage
>Hank becoming Yellowjacket
>Cap vs Winter Solider
I could keep going on here, the point is that most of the great stories being told, we're being told parallel to others during the show, few episodes focused on just one character doing stuff because they needed to advance their story. You should watch that show again dude.
>>83278127
Indeed.
