That ending.
It was good! I think a circular ending was always on the cards though. If I had to come up with a criticism, I'd say the military debriefing shows some of what you lose in transparently making the Vega system a Middle East analogue, but that was basically the point of this comic in the first place.
The whole thing was just a top-notch contained run. There was nothing wasted. Consideration was evident on every page and panel.
>>83241130
I'm excited for the trade!
>>83241257
I do think the first 6 issues spun its wheels a little more than was necessary. The back half was a really intense rollercoaster, but I can unfortunately see why sales rapidly waned early on. I hope that the series finds a longer life on trade. I think it can.
But I do love how it all came together. It built up to it perfectly. And Kyle's words at the end about the gutter were pretty haunting. A little on the nose, but haunting all the same.
>>83241130
First time I gave a crap about Kyle and that ending was just perfect. Pity it looks like he'll go back to being uninteresting again with Rebirth.
Do you think any of the Lanterns in Rebirth will get as lucky as Kyle was to get a fantastic solo story?
Im happy it wasnt an ongoing. it ended up a tight self contained story. we need more minis like this. BTW when is Prez going back?
>>83241550
October, I believe.
>>83241526
I don't think so since Venditti and Humpries are writing. King is wasted on Batman, GL would have been better for him.
Also Kyle really looks good in black
>>83241298
#5 was the best bruh
>>83241526
Kyle has a tradition of fantastic solo stories, if i was a writer I would pick Kyle or maybe John but fuck trying to craft a good story with Hal or Guy
>>83241130
Ending was pretty shit. What's some American general talking about invading a galaxy it can't even get to?
>>83241130so what did he pick at the end? them or us?[/spoiler
>>83241130
You know, when i read that last part, i think about wildstorm. It could be great if their could tie-in to Vega system
>>83241753
Yeah, I love that costume
>>83241968There's always a third way
>>83241968
"There is always a third way"
>>83241968
reread the first issue
>>83241526
They're all being written by Venditti so no
>>83241785
Why? Hal and Guy are great and they have good solo stories too
>>83242128
>>83242073
so i'm guessing the third option was himself? or neither but he's not going back to the rebirth lantern books (not that he'd be let back in after what he did)
>>83241785
I reckon you could do a good Guy solo if you went full 'cowboy cop in an untamed land'
>>83241785
King did a fantastic Hal one-shot.
>>83242147
Hal is not even a character, he has no personality.
Guy has a tonne of stupid baggage.
>>83241785
I think Guy works better as part of a duo, he makes more sense when he's contrasted against someone else.
POTTERY
>>83242163
>Hal is not even a character
Nice meme bro. Go read O'Neil, Wolfman, Jones and Busiek's Wednesday Comics and then get back to me.
>>83241785
Kek. Omega Men is the only truly great solo story Kyle's ever had. Just like John only has Mosaic.
>>83242163
You could have just said you haven't read any comics.
>>83242149
He is going to be in Hal Jordan and the GLC
>>83243016
well that's stupid
he can't even say the oath anymore and i thought the ending of omega men was implying that he'd be out of action for a while
>>83241955
Earth should be a space-faring planet. Seriously. The planet is full of aliens, there are several human Lanterns and the JL is constantly going to other planets. So why shouldn't the army be able to also do that?
>>83243196
Because then you no longer have a modern setting but a setting in which civilians have alien tech and space faring capabilities which is full futuristic scifi.
>>83243273
So?
The best parts of New Krypton were General Lane recruiting a bunch of alien and magical worlds against New Krypton.
DCU should be futuristic. I want to see the US army invading Hell again.
>>83243308
Just read Legion of Superheroes.
>>83243329
No. I mean, yes, but i also want the US army invading other worlds and busting heads against the JL.
>>83241785
>Kyle has a tradition of fantastic solo stories
Hahaha
>>83241955
It's you again. And why wouldn't US general not talk to Kyle about all that happened? Earth needs stellerium too. Were you even paying attention or do you just want to shitpost?
>>83242117
>>83242128
No there isn't.
>>83242163
Fuck off faggot
>>83243086
We all knew that nothing that happened to Kyle in Omega Men was going to stick
>>83243402
pfft what? That's stupid as fuck.
The book has to be interpreted in light of William James' work. It asks you to do that on every opening and closing page. That stuff is particularly important to this book concerning James' ideas of truth and his views on religion. I think that Kyle's experiences in this book very much translate to a positive religious experience in James' terms. His apparent equanimity in front of the general at the end of the book; his ability to pray when he cannot recite the Lantern oath - and even, potentially, his abandonment of the crucifix with the Viceroy (I've seen some people interpret this as a broken faith in God but I do not agree with that interpretation, I don't think that holds up) - can all be seen as signs of that.
>>83243402
I seriously don't understand people's problem with it. Earth has 4, i mean 5 human Lanterns. The US government are aware of them as shown in Geoff Johns' Green Lantern run.
You've the JL working with the US/ARGUS and the JL are full of aliens and constantly going to alien planets.
The planet Earth and the US is full of alien life-forms.
DC Earth should basically be like MIB.
>>83243494
WTF is stupid about it?
>>83243588
It's not "people," it's just one shitposter
>>83241526
>Venditti
>Humphries
lol no
>>83241753
>King is wasted on Batman, GL would have been better for him.
It would've been better for you, not him. Batman is the better career move for King. It puts his name out to more people and is probably the larger paying gig.
>>83241785
>Kyle has a tradition of fantastic solo stories
>I would pick Kyle or maybe John
>fuck trying to craft a good story with Hal or Guy
Why do kylefags have such shit taste.
>>83241550
It was an ongoing. The story King had planned was 12 issues. But if sales were good and DC was going to let this continue past issue 12 there would be more to tell.
>>83243892
It is a better move for him but I'm still hoping he gets to work on GL in the future
>>83243273
>Capeshit has to be set in a world that is identical to ours
Kill yourself senpai.
I dunno why people want King on GL. I'd much rather see him and The Question, or maybe Suicide Squad.
>>83243273
I think the best way to go with Superhero setting is to treat it like a full fantasy setting where magic and sci-fi tech is ubiquitous and the world is shaped by it.
Kingfags vs. Morrisonfags
who loses? Besides /co/ and people who have had sex, of course.
>>83244151
The dude just wrote a great book, anon. Why have we got to pretend he didn't?
>>83244004
I gotta say, I realy like Seeley's Suicide Squad story, too bad it's only one arc.
>>83244004
He wrote a great cosmic book that kind of featured a GL and he wrote a great one shot focusing on a GL, and the GL line desperately needs better writers and a kick in the ass
I think King would be great on a main GL book
>>83244004
He could probably be pretty good on The Question but idk about Suicide Squad, it doesn't seem like his kind of book. Especially not if it's supposed to match the movie and Quinn's everything.
>>83244267
>People being used by government
>covert ops
>political tone
>people suffering from PTSD
Nigger
>>83242154
>tfw no Space Westerns
>>83241955
You also have to remember that this was intended to be an ongoing, with the first 12 issues having major consequences. Granted, given the nature of status quo, not much would change, but you can imagine this could've been Earth's foothold into galactic expansion.
>>83242154
A frontier thing? Yeah, that would be good. You probably don't built up the lanterns as an organization there: Guy moves from problem to problem resolving and becomes the rumored lawman of that area of space. He doesn't really care about organizing justice in his wake and maybe that comes back to haunt him later in the run.
The contrast is John Stewart, where you put him in a fixed place - like a big, seedy, urban space city - and he has to navigate the complexities of that while he does organize justice and organize his case against the evident but half-hidden endgame villain.
>>83244461
King said he only had 12 issues plotted at the start. I think everyone knew this wasn't going to survive longer than that.
>>83242149
The third option is both. The whole savage/civilized thing was to hammer home the pettiness of the things we fight over
>>83244590
He did also say he had plans to continue if it did well enough
;_;
>>83244733
The writing was on the wall as soon as issue 2's numbers were out so they couldn't have been too detailed.
>>83244799
He mentioned it would expand more on Kalista but yeah I'm guessing he didn't make any real detailed plans
>>83244733
Recently, he said he might take another crack at it if his Batman run does well enough.
https://twitter.com/TomKingTK/status/735577919800651777
>>83244004
He wrote some good stories with Lanterns starring in them. And GLfags desperately want better writers on their books.
>>83244151
But I'm both, anon.
>>83245067
That's not what he said at all. And it was probably a joke.
>>83245067
>New title announced
>Batman and The Omega Men
>>83245067
I just keep thinking that if Six Pack/Dogwelder can be a thing why not an Omega Men continuation
>>83245692
>That's not what he said at all.
But that's basically the implication.
And sure, it's a joke, but there's a kernel of truth to it. The jokey part is "haha, advertising for Batman." But he's not lying about its reception potentially determining whether he writes more of Kyle or more stories for off-the-mark teams like The Omega Men.
He could just have easily been more coy or said "for now, I'm finished with the story and have no real intentions of going back."
>>83242277
>kyle lets himself be turned.
Damnit.
>>83243402
I feel like it should've been a Guardian.
Kyle's REAL issue was with the Corps letting Vega rot. Making it a general was dragging the subtext into text.
why are lantern fags so insufferable? Can't we just like them all?
>>83244267
>it doesn't seem like his kind of book
It's about a team of emotionally damaged people sent on covert and deniable operations by the totally-not CIA. If that ain't a King book then nothing is.
>>83246343
That's not exactly what happens.
>>83241130
Can you believe this was gonna be a gairdians of the galaxy knock off originally.
>>83247171
I think King likes to swerve on his story pitches.
No one guessed The Vision was gonna be a horror/crime book.
>>83247311
He said when they asked for Omega Men pitches it was right after GOTG so he pitched a blatant knock off and they were like "Tom wtf is this, we wanted something interesting" so then he came up with the better pitch
>>83247723
Maybe the gotg rip-off would have actually sold.
I miss the old version Felicity.
>>83244004
>Question
too late, with Rucka back you will get Renee and you will LIKE IT
>>83247956
>not called Guardians of the Galaxy
>not published by Marvel
>not including Batman
>by a literally who writer
nah
>>83250942
I actually will though.
>>83252764
and why wouldn't you
>>83250774
I don't think she's in this at all, is she? The 2008 series had a pretty good Felicity, but nothing like the classic version.
>>83244004
>Suicide Squad
THANK YOU
He'd fit SS like a glove
>>83242147
>Hal and Guy are great
So great in fact that writers have replaced both of them twice over, more than any other linchpin character INCLUDING the Flash.
>>83243308
>I want to see the US army invading Hell again.
I never thought Ty Templeton would be a great non-funny writer. Man.
>>83253239
but Flash has been replaced three times
>>83253239
But Hal got replaced once and Guy didn't get replaced at all, what are you saying
also Batman's been replaced two or three times and the Flash mantle's been passed around like four times
>>83253370
more than that (Jay to Barry, Barry to Wally, Wally to Bart, Bart to Wally, Wally to Barry)
>>83241130
I keep getting this recommended to me so I reckon it must be pretty good. Should I get the trade /co/mrades?
>>83255944
yes, absolutely
it comes out in August I believe
>>83255944
YES
also stop namefagging
>>83255962
Thanks, I suppose. Namefags gotta namefag...
>>83243308
>DCU should be futuristic. I want to see the US army invading Hell again.
That was an awesome fucking story, but it's hard to incorporate that into world-building across the board. You can't really have major status quo changes about tech levels or everyday life when you're coordinating a setting with a dozen other writers and editors.
Settings handled by single writers? Sure, it's cool when their baseline status quo changes over time, but larger shared universes are kind of bound by it.
>>83255959
I've had a look at some pages and I absolutely despise that kind of bland, sub-Jim Lee art style...does the writing/story make up for it?
>>83257315
actually kill yourself
>>83257315
Did you actually look at it or are you just retarded? How is it any similar to Jim Lee's style?
>>83257315
>a namefag is a retard
what a surprise
>>83257315
the art looks nothing like Jim Lee, what on earth are you talking about
also you should take a closer look at the layouts, there's some real gems in the way issues are laid out
and yes the writing and story are very good
>>83257315
Thanks for the good laugh.
>>83257538
>>83257503
>>83257609
>>83257669
Genuinely looked at a bunch of pages and I think I was looking at a different artist, my mistake, I fully accept that one. The art is by this Barnaby Bagenda, yeah? Still not keen on it.
Hahah wow my criticism of your spiritual king Jim Lee certainly caused some butthurt, wew. People accuse Steve Dillon of sameface, he's got nothing on Jim Lee.
>>83257936
No problem, laughter is a good thing Anon.
>>83258023
>Hahah wow my criticism of your spiritual king Jim Lee certainly caused some butthurt
It's the exact opposite. People on /co/ detest Lee; Bagenda's art is actually decent and, certainly by the end of the run, it grows on you if you don't already love it.
>>83258023
you need to stop
>>83258023
>Hahah wow my criticism of your spiritual king Jim Lee certainly caused some butthurt, wew. People accuse Steve Dillon of sameface, he's got nothing on Jim Lee.
You criticized Bagenda, not Lee dude
>>83255944
>>83257315
>>83258023
is this the first comic you've ever read
is this your first time on /co/
is this your first time on 4chan
>>83258106
I thought Jim Lee was pretty revered around these parts. He crops up often enough in "post your favourite pages/panels" etc. threads often enough.
>>83258236
No, I was looking at a different artist. Google images threw up a few different, it was my mistake.
>>83258280
Hahah absolutely, no. No. And no.
