These cartoons are what is saving animation from dying in the modern age.
>>83220878
I like the calarts artstyle and these shows, fuck off you critical memer.
>>83220878
HAHAHAHA MEEEEMEEES.
Now do this with Grunkle Stan, Pearl, Harvey Beaks, Chloe, Ms Baker, and Sylvia and maybe this argument of "all cartoons the same!" would have a point.
hey guys check out my new calarts cartoon its features a buff cat who is totaly into solving mysterys with his gay brother who happend to be a ladybug but he's a guy not a lady hhaha its a running gag within the show hahah so funy i kno any way they live in a shack outside th magic kingdom of treasure land and they help the princess with magic and shit some times its super funny and has a lot of great characters like angry crocodile man and sassy shoelace around 20 episodes in it gets a random backstory and gets super dark and edgy i hope you enjoy it
That artstyle has nothing to do with calarts.
hey guys check out my pilot it's about a happy-go-lucky girl and her two friends and their wacky adventures in school!
hey guys check out my pilot about a fun-loving girl and her giant pet cat as they go on crazy adventures in a world where all the animals are giant!!!!
hei guz check out my new pirate it's about a happy boy with magic backpack and wacky monster things come out pew pew
help guys i made a pilot about a happy earmouse teaching his friend bottle 2 love life and it's wacky cuz y are they alive hahahaha?
hello gays i made a spin-off about margaret and eileen but jg quintel threatened to go skyler page on me if i went through with it so heres my new short, bottoms butte!!!!
it's about something happy and something wacky.
it's a pilot about
a dumb-but-happy character as they
>>83220878
nope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOjVHNOYm-8
do something wacky with their BFF and
>>83222160
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they all make this face
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>>83222193
cartoon networks new line up looking fiiiiine
>I hate all current trends!!!
literally wait 5 years
>>83222257
Almost all of these are Nickelodeon pilots. But ever since passing up Phineas and Ferb and Adventure Time, Nick has shamelessly been taking CN's reject pilots and turning them into TV shows.
>>83221631
is this the gumball series finale
OH BOY ITS THIS THREAD AGAIN.
>>83222363
sorry anon, you cannot delete reality.
So has anyone outside of /co/ ever criticized Calarts art-style?
>>83222642
>who is John K.
He's the reason that meme even exists.
>>83222716
Really? I wonder if /co/ knows that
>>83221912
Oi! Don't lump Tall Tales of Urchin in with this shit.
There's real heart and potential there.
>>83220878
But it's true. All of those are good shows and are the only ones that respect the craft.
>>83222754
I wonder that if you stayed on /tv/, the board would be much better
>>83222716
John K's criticism seems different though its more geared toward Disney. Which makes sense as it used to be a school totally sponsored and influence by Disney. I guess you can say that the "CALARTS" style is any style that dominates the entire school.
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>>83222642
http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2010/01/cal-arts-style.html
>When cartoonists refer to the "Cal Arts Style" they are talking about this recycled look that is not influenced by life or even other cartoon styles. It is strictly a straight line of inheritance through a few generations starting from somewhere around the "Aristocats". ...Losing important genetic code with each new generation and getting staler and staler.
>It has been blended with 70s Hanna Barbera, Nelvana and Sheridan College in the last 20 years - and even a bit of Spumco, but the basic core of the feeling - soft Disney is Cal Arts.
This rings true for OP as well. "Cal-Arts" is not strictly talking about the school, it's just a general term to refer to "current industry style that originated from the latest batch of graduates of Cal-Arts".
It applies to Steven Universe because Rebecca Sugar used to have a drawing style until she got into TV. Now she draws like every other CalArts student because she's been influenced by them so heavily.
>>83223063
not with that artstyle
>>83223551
Maybe not, but have you seen it?
It feels very much like a spiritual successor to Flapjack.
>>83223574
CN doesn't care about their old man talent. That's why they've ditched Craig McCracken, CH Greenblatt, and Gennedy. They're all about going after recent graduates for cheap and for "new, original, out of the box ideas". Why do you think nuPPG is made up almost entirely of artists with no industry experience?
The only reason Gennedy is back is because of nostalgia on Adult Swim's part moreso than actual interest in him as an artist.
>>83223459
i don't think so. Her style is still pretty distinct.
>>83223680
Her self portrait drawings literally look like stuff I see in CalArts graduate portfolios.
>>83223779
Links?
>>83223886
You have to just scour past her reblogs on Tumblr to find her art. Honestly, it's easier just to google "Rebecca Sugar Art" for stuff she's done in the last few years.
>>83223779
this is a very distinct style
sugar did not go to calarts btw
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>>83223459
>Rebecca Sugar used to have a drawing style until she got into TV
her style hasn't substantially changed since she made "Don't Cry For Me, I'm Already Dead" but you don't even know what that is, do you
>>83220942
Remember when "the CalArts style" was the Milt Kahl style perpetuated by Brad Bird?
>>83222296
I'm guessing they wanted to redeem themselves afrer pushing away Adventure Time.
>>83226217
>but you don't even know what that is, do you
Yeah, I have no idea about her very few pieces she's done outside of Steven Universe. What the fuck is Pug Davis, Singles, or Even Braindead People Can Enjoy Simpsons? Fuck me if I know. Also can you recommend any indie bands? I want only people really underground, you know?
Her organic forms are way less squishy than they were when she graduated college + did those comics. Fuck, just look at the pilot compared to now. The pilot actually looks like pages out of her sketchbook.
>>83226322
half of the beatles are underground
>another "[buzzword] is the reason everything sucks" thread
>>83226615
BEEEAATLES UNDERGRRRROOOOUND
BEAAAATLESSS UNDERGRROOOOOUNNNDDD
CN employees on massive damage control ITT
>>83223459
Sugar had to conform to the low-tier "cal-arts" style to save money. Of course her and Ian would say "HEY THIS CHANGE IS AN IMPROVEMENT!" lest they be fired.
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>>83222296
What happened to animation. Is any 5 year old allowed to make a pitch now? Why must they all be happy? A little misery please
>>83227172
> No, anon NO!!1! I don't like my fav chars sad and miserable like me, they make me feel better being who they are!!1! ;(((
>>83227172
Because kids cartoons with angry or miserable characters tank in the ratings.
The fact that she-who-must-not-be-named show that was on the same network got 15 times more popular than this one speaks volumes on what people look for in a kids cartoon.
>>83223574
First off, the problem is that CN toons aren't geometric enough.
Secondly, you're seriously using a version of a false flag /v/ meme (pic related is commonly used to false flag "sonyggers") associated with phrases like "DELETE THIS" and "ITS NOT FAIR". I don't want this board to become like /v/ but it will happen if you keep posting images like this.
My dream is to move to the United States for the sole purpose of studying in CalArts, how fucked am I?
>>83227708
CalArts is a good school and their student shorts are damn fucking good. Second best to Gobelins (Which is unreal levels of professional for students). The problem lies more in studios being aggressive with their in-house style rather than throwing up some variety. But even that can be argued, is that even really a problem? Because CN has a very prominent "studio style" and they're doing quite well in the ratings.
>>83220878
Mabel makes life worth living.
>>83221631
u realize every animated movie you've ever watched was made by cal arts right? the style in the op is the cal arts equivalent of a flick of the pencil to most people.
>>83223779
looks like pilot Pearl
>>83228487
>self-inserting
no shit
>>83228550
Well rebecca has said all the gems are just different parts of herself.
>>83228611
Rebecca sees herself as part strong black woman?
>>83220878
Sure is the Simpson these days.
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>>83220878
No they are not, they're cancer.
We need standers.
>>83228740
You need a dictionary.
>>83228758
No, I don't.
This is quality animation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwJZhPFs9Kw
>>83220878
Are you implying they're inferior because they have comparable design aspects? Every era of cartons has had sets of tends and stylistic choice that can be traced across a multitude of shows.
>>83228811
>animation done for theatrical shorts when there no was no guild to regulate animator wages
ok.
>>83228924
If you want something newer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-ji8Oo5q3o
>>83228997
You have any examples from the last decade?
>>83229042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RODNLawkA7s
>>83229042
I think that's his point.
>>83229124
>Lupin
My Nigga
>>83229166
His point is that he cherry picks the shit out of his examples to fit his needs. It's like asking why can't all anime have the same animation quality as One Punch Man. Answer: Because the conditions to that show are completely fucking bonkers for industry standard. Not everyone is willing to kill themselves in overtime over a passion project to make it look its very best.
Just because Don Bluth and his crew basically filed bankruptcy just to make Secret of NIHM doesn't mean every filmmaker should just to give small audiences some good ol' 2D animation.
>>83229166
Thank you, I fear for the staff's retirement due to working since the 70s (80s staff is good until 2020 to 2024).
>>83229283
The only good animator on OPM was Hiroyuki Aoyama and he did that at his house.
>>83229381
OPM's overall quality was still higher than the average anime. Japanese studios in general pay their animators per drawing, not per hour, which is why they crank out so many drawings, so they can make a decent living.
They don't have an animation guild like we do where, if people want to put out quality, they basically have to lie on their timesheets which means they won't get paid for all that juicy animation you want so bad. And a lot of people would like to live decently and pay bills without killing themselves over it, so they're not going to do it unless they REALLY love the project. Plus TV shows don't have big budgets to begin with, so they can't just throw overtime pay at their employees like feature film studios can. Not to mention it's pretty hard to supervise your animators when they're across the globe in a different timezone from you.
Maybe learn basic things about the industry before bitching that the quality isn't very good.
>>83229685
TMS I know pays per hour, KyoAni between 2007-2013 as well.
Low end studios pay per drawing but the higher end ones pay per hour and Japan has JAniCA.
It's South Korea that lacks a guild to the point that lower end studios and pre-strike Mir were getting payed per foot, Rough Draft and post-strike Mir do get payed per hour however (Rough Draft pays more however).
>>83228629
>post made less than an hour ago
I still have the comedic timing on my side:
I know one strong black part of herIan's dick.
>>83228629
I think she's said that Garnet is the cool side she wishes she had
>>83230200
You're not wrong. Sugar has said that Garnet being a fusion is suppose to represent her and Ian being an interracial couple. I only assume that's why Ruby looks really close to KO from Lakewood Plaza.
