So is there going to be an actual Rebirth comic or was Rebirth #1 all there was and we're just supposed to read all of that shit to figure out what the hell is going on?

The books i want to follow have abysmal teams behind them, not sure why i expected anything else

>>83211318
The DC Rebirth #1 is a glorified 2.99$ teaser for the whole relaunched line up.

>>83211318
They haven't said yet where the main story will continue.

>>83211359
A large part will be in Titans.

They haven't announced Justice League of America's team yet, but I think it seems likely to be the major book to care on the rebirth plot lines, since Justice League by Hitch/Daniel/Pasarin doesn't seem to be.

I also think there's a decent change Orlando is going to do something with the JSA based on his twitter feed (although he is apparently just a massive JJ Thunder/Johnny Thunder fan)

>>83211282
>that horrible Huntress

It sucks not being a Superfag or Wallyfag so the company doesn't pander to us without shame

>>83211282
In my 5 years of pirating comics and occasionally buying trades, DC Rebirth has encouraged me to start picking up floppies. I fucking love it.

>>83211345
As opposed as a glorified 12 part $60 cash in to a movie? Get dicked mouseketeer, I hope the blowback from the Cap Controversy actually hurts you this time. DC is pushing for everything that's right with comics.

It's short and sweet and got me hyped for what's to come. Fuck off.

>>83211632
Which Huntress?

>>83211645
Why do people always assume if you are with a big 1 you are with the other big 1, that's more /v/ than anything else.
I mostly buy indie trades anyways.

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>>83211773
Is that Doomsday with a monocle?

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>>83211829

>Red Robin logo
>Using the normal Robin outfit
Whats the point?

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>>83211632
>Superfag
Them motherfuckers got Fucking dipshits like Jurgens and Tomasi writing 2 twice monthly main titles. There's nothing good about being a superfag currently if all you like is Superman. Extended super family is another deal though

>>83211839
Dr Fate made it past the 12 issue minimum? Color me surprised.

>>83211875
I posted those spoiler-tagged covers to show how the new DC logo appears on final covers of various formats.

>>83211867
Superfags killed Nu52 Superman, they deserve it

>>83211848
This book had potential to be Batman Odyssey 2.0 but fucked.
Still buying the trade since i love Adam's 70's style.

>>83211839
ah cool, it seems this is continuing past Rebirth. Levitz has that influence huh

>>83211888
Uhh that doesn't really change how surprised I am.

>>83211910
What went wrong?

>>83211939
I.... eh it was just eh', I mean Darkseid being an Ancient Egyptian Pharaoh? That's insane, but it was too insane. There were moments were it just didn't connect. It was too disjointed.

>>83211889
New 52 Superman was a sinking ship the moment Morrison left. Only way they could've made it work in the long run is if Morrison was made in charge of Superman line.

>>83211807
Doomsday, esquire. Cheerio old chap!

>>83211839
This is one pretty cover.

>>83211727
oh, then let me rephrase my wording then.
Better than a glorified 6-12 Issue Movie Pitch. Unless of course you mean IDW, which it's all good.

>>83212040
No, IDW is 90% tie ins.

Not even movie pitches

>>83212078
A few of their original comics end up adapted to live action (for example, 30 Days of Night).

>>83211345
>80 pages
>for half the price of Gwenpool #1
>bad
Go to hell.

>>83211282
Interested in:
>Action Comics
>Detective Comics
>Green Lanterns
>Superman
>wodner Woman
>Deathstroke
>Batgirl
>batgirl & the Birds of Prey
>Hellblazer
>New Super-Man
>Blue Beetle
>Supergirl
>supersons
>Teen Titans

>>83211320
Then follow the writers/artists you know that you like. They will introduce you to more characters to love.

>>83211809
>The writer has said he's a massive Waid Flash fan

please be good

dident dc also bring watchmen into there universe with there reborn event?
how will that even work wouldent dr menhatten be a freakishly distructive forse in the dc universe with his matter reconstruction thing and him being literly 4 dimentional in nature?
as in he knows everything that has happend is happening and will happen to himwith perfect accuracy?
i just dont know how that wont fuck up the power ballence, especially because manhatten is mite gry then most dc heros and has no problems with doing bad shit go get things done.
if this is real then a clash between the jla and the watchmen is enevitable

Only thing I'm sure I'll follow is Trinity, Manapul can do no wrong

>>83211282
Gonna check out:

>Batman
>Wonder Woman
>Nightwing
>Deathstroke
>Hellblazer
>New Super-Man
>Supergirl
>eventual JSA book (?)

However I'm most excited about Young Animal books, Prez part 2 and The Flintstones.

>>83211632
>implying DC makes a habit of pandering to Wally fans
He's been shit on continuously for 8 years.

So did Doc Manhattan 'steal' 10 years? How does that work? Also what version of Clark Kent was the alive one talking with Lois Lane?

>>83211659
The only good one.

>>83214822
Same about following Trinity, but it's not the only thing I want. Titans for sure. I'll probably buy a lot of first issues since I haven't read a lot of the writers for new books so I want to dip my feet in. Hellblazer's one, New Superman's another.
>>83214887
Pre-Flashpoint supes.

>>83211282
Why is Deathstroke double shipping? They never even managed to keep a regular Deathstroke series alive.

>>83214945
Manapul is the only one I'm giving total trust because I had the chance to talk to him IRL and he is really a guy that deserves my respect, he stopped working on New 52 Flash when the editors started to ask for shit to be put in the run (Black Wally just to say one).

Everything else I'l probably read the first issues and than decide what to follow and what to drop, I really hope that stuff with Flashes and Lanterns are good but I already know I'll be disappointed.

>>83214999
A lot of things that wouldn't normally be that popular are still double shipping (Cyborg, for one). Seems like they're testing the waters if they can take off.

If not, going back to monthly would be pretty easy.

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Rebirth actually has me interested in buying floppies for pretty much the first time ever. Pretty much just grabbing Wonder Woman, Superman, and Flash though from the bi-weekly stuff. It's the once monthly stuff that I'll probably spend more on, if they're any good, since those are the most in danger of being cancelled. No point in buying a Batbook ever since it's gauranteed to never not sell well.

>>83211815
>Humpries

I was excited for Simon and Jessica to be starring in their own book, but come on. Humpries? I'll buy the Rebirth and the #1, but if it's shit I'll just have to deal with never buying a GL book for awhile. Being a modern GL fan is suffering. I can't believe I read Venditti's garbage as long as I did

>>83215166
>tfw read Venditti's GL, did not care for it, but will be picking up HJGLC (and Green Lanterns) anyway because muh GLs
Is this Stockholm syndrome or am I just dumb

>>83215186
just dumb but don't worry, we are a lot of dumb GL fans

>>83214807
3/10 Bait, the spelling errors made it too obvious.

>>83215166
Johns is the only one that can do a good cosmic rainbow corps, what would really bring back readers would be putting a solo earth lantern back. Kyle, Guy or John, someone should just be a dude living in New York beating up supervillains with a glowing ring. That's why I got into GL in the first place.

>>83215186
If you're pirating it you're just silly, if you're endorsing it with a dollar you're borderline brain-dead.

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>>83215186
GLfans are so used to suffering that they just can't help it, it's not your fault anon. I highly encourage you to seek help though.

Just never give up hope that maybe some day they'll give Hal a good writer.

>>83215256
>Just never give up hope that maybe some day they'll give Hal a good writer.
It's not fair that King writes an amazing cosmic book and a god tier GL issue but then when he takes over an ongoing it's fucking Batman ;_; it's not fair to tease like that

>>83214999
Deathstroke actually sells better than you'd expect.

Since the new run started in October 2014, it's been consistently outselling Green Arrow and Aquaman, and performing on par with a lot of decent-selling titles from DC. All this without much advertising or being linked with many high-profile teams.

There are books that are unannounced still. Orlando mentioned working on something (probably JSA)

>>83215059
>he stopped working on New 52 Flash when the editors started to ask for shit to be put in the run (Black Wally just to say one).

Wait a second, Manapul left the Flash because of that?? I feel so torn on about this. Their Wally could have been so different.

Then again if New 52 Wally wasn't such shitshow, we may never had a Rebirth. I hope Manapul gets to work with his favorite character one day. I remember Brian and him putting a Wally pitch every once in a while and turning with a rejection from Didio.

>>83214822
Trinity might be delayed because Manapul has a new babby. It was supposed to be solicited in August but there was nothing.

>>83214887
When the universe got "Flashpointed" he moved everyone back by 10 years erasing their memories and experiences.

>>83215221
nah the spelling is shit because my english is shit (third language after german and italien)
i was genuanly asking because i dont think the mentality of the watchem from there comic will at all work in the dc earth.
fucks sake just think of how ozimandeus will react to a planet full of superpowerd wierdos when he nuked a city to get rid of menhatten and to stop world war 3?
in my eyes the watchmen will be distruptive as all fuck in them being neather black or white but gray as all fuck.
the jla will see them as dangerous at best of not villens.
or how do you think this can even work out without the writers just pulling shit out of there asses that is just uncharacteristic of every established character involved?
i really want to know

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>>83215372
It has to be JSA, he keeps posting about them on twitter and he mentioned getting to work on one of his dream projects later this year.

I wonder what other unannounced books we'll get later. Surely DC will finally give us a Shazam book, right?

>>83215444
There was also this tweet a year ago

https://twitter.com/geoffjohns/status/567368235398356992

>>83215437
that's because the Watchmen isn't part of the Main DC Earth. Did you even read the book?

>>83211282
>adding to my pull-list from day one

Aquaman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Titans (mainly for Wally)
Blue Beetle

>Going to pirate a few issues first to see if I like it

Flash
Deathstroke
Suicide Squad
Supergirl
Super Sons
Trinity

Has there been any information on Chink Supes (Chupes)?

>>83215529
What information do you mean? A couple of issues have been solicited and Yang said some things in interviews and shit. The character naming blog is pretty good: http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2016/04/14/naming-super-man

Do we know which Supes is going to be in the Superman ongoing and which is going to be in Action yet?

>>83215487
why last blue bettle was canceled?

BB Comics is going to have Jaime a Ted ?

>>83215601
It's pre-Flashpoint in both for now

>>83215601
yes, Superdad. New 52 Supes turned to sand. IT's okay, Superdad is watching his grave and waiting for him to come back
>>83215622
It was shit, if you're talking about the one before New 52 it's because it was selling like shit and was only kept going by Didio Life Support

>>83215622

It's going to be Jaime and Ted and Kent Nelson Dr. Fate all written by Giffen

It's going to be fucking awesome (if it doesn't get canned at eight issues since no one else seems to be as hyped for it as I am)

>>83215562
thanks senpai

He Loves You

>>83215393
what I know is that he had problems with the direction of the series and he went to Detective Comics, I also know that he stopped reading after he left.

I'm talking about a 2 minute conversation I had with him months ago in a language that is not my first so I can't say anything as certain but I'm pretty sure what they wanted to do with his favourite superhero was at least part of the reason why he left Flash.

To reinvigorate this you can just go and look at the news of the return of wally west and the last number of flash that Manapul was in, they should both be from January 2014

>>83211763
mahnke's art has suffered over the past few years
is it the inker

>>83211875
yeah they're going for the third trade
I don't think it'll go past that though

>be a filthy New52 babby
>somehow still ended up enjoying DC even though a number of the books were shit
>don't know how to feel about this pre-Flashpoint stuff coming back

I'm actually kind of bummed New 52 Superman isn't going to be in any of the books for now. I'm not really familiar with pre-Flashpoint Superman, and my pre-New 52 knowledge in general is pretty lacking, though I have been reading a ton of old Flash lately.

You guys think there's any major recommended reading for this pre-Flashpoint Superman I should read up on before Superman Rebirth next week?

>>83211848
TRUNKS?!?!?!?

>>83215668

While that's plausible, initial pitches of Venditti and Jensen didn't have it either. They were later forced to put Wally into the book and had to tweak Future Flash arc. according to that.

But I know Manapul admitting he's a Wallyfag and had posted a rejected Wally-Barry convo on instagram the day after he left.

Which makes me furious because he would have been such a great choice on Titans instead of the fucking Booth.

>>83215762
>You guys think there's any major recommended reading for this pre-Flashpoint Superman I should read up on before Superman Rebirth next week?

Just find a general recommended reading for Superman and pick up on that.

Rebirth is less about specific aspects returning from pre-Flashpoint, and more about bringing back the same sense of legacy and connectivity between heroes, so it's less about "you need to know about X event happening" and more about getting a feel for how these characters interacted with each other from beforehand.

>>83215762
I think both Supermen are pretty similar and the biggest differences ha to do with status quos rather than anything unchangeable. People freaked out about early new 52 Superman's personality but that was mostly just origin shit that didn't stick. If you liked him you'll like the older one.

But I would recommend the Johns and Busiek runs starting after Infinite Crisis. Then cry about how Jurgens and Tomasi's mediocrity will be shitting up the main Superman books in Rebirth.

>>83215601
New52 Superman is currently dead, and it seems he'll be for a little while.

Action Comics focuses on the big cast of Super-characters in Metropolis, like Lex Luthor, Doomsday, and others. Superman focuses on Clark White (pre-Flashpoint Supes) and his super-powered son.

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>>83215762
here you go

>>83211282
Damn, why did Booth had to draw Titans.

>>83215794
That's probably it though. Booth played nice long enough to get what he wanted.

>>83215809
>>83215820
Good to know. I've pretty much just being reading whatever sounds interesting from various recommendation charts, just haven't gotten around to the Superman rec chart yet.

I imagine if anything the Superman Rebirth special will clear up any confusion there might be for people who started reading during the New 52 like me.

>>83215845

His art isn't THAT bad, and he's paired with a good writer so hopefully Abnett can make it work.

>>83215885
The confusion was started in the new 52 so if you're confused that's just because you hadn't read the relevant stuff (Lois and Clark mostly) rather than because they're referencing something old you missed.

>>83215928
Has Abnett written anything good in the Post N52 DC?

>>83215928
I don't get it, how can the colors make his works that much worse?
I went to see some uncolored shit he has done and they are pretty good.

>>83216100
His Aquaman issues were good and his Earth 2 is doing an admirable job of turning that tire fire into something readable and almost good

Everyone who buys supersons is a pedo

Wonder Woman, Batman, Blue Beetle, Trinity, and maybe New Superman look interesting
Everything else is garbage

>>83216214
>Priest Deathstroke
>garbage

found the pleb

>>83216147
Well, maybe there is hope for Titans at last.

>>83216243
Only if they publish it in black and white

I hope Blue Beetle lasts more than 8 issues. DeMatteis writing these characters is always a blast and Scott Kolins is one of my favorite underrated artists.

Do we know if Ted will be suiting up?

>>83214552
Fuck Williamson. Still hope the run is good, but plot premise is shite.

>>83211856
>hit

>>83216267
Ted was in his flying beetle thing so probably

>>83215652
Definitely going to be one of my for sure buys.

Will an Atom series be announced? I wonder where will they continue the Ryan going into the Microverse story

>>83216147
>His Aquaman issues were good
Not really. They got worse and worse with each issue. Only the first one was good.

>>83216267
>DeMatteis writing these characters is always a blast
DeMatteis is not involved.

>>83211282
>MAXIMUM HYPE
All of Young Animal
Wonder Woman

>Excited For
Batman
Flash
Green Arrow
Nightwing
Deathstroke
Titans (despite Booth)
New Super-Man
All-Star Batman (pretty much just for a few artists in the rotation)
Blue Beetle
Supergirl
Superwoman
Trinity

Hope it's not too long before the announcements for JSA, Legion, and Shazam Family books, although Johns indicated that they may start as arcs in other titles.

>>83216811
I'd put my money on that being followed up on in a Justice League book.

>>83211282
>double-shipping Cyborg
>no big names on it
>nobody seemed to care about the last series
>Rebirth didn't hype it

Talk about an uphill battle.

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>>83211282
>Finally fix Jason's mask and backstory
>Give it to Lobdell

I guess I was wrong to get my hopes up

Biggest pull list from DC since I started reading comics. And I decided to give up Image and Marvel because I realised I'm a characterfag when it comes to comics.

>Batman
>All Star Batman
>Wonder Woman
>Blue Beetle
>Death stroke
>Suicide Squad
>Titans
>Teen Titans
>Super Sons

Nrot sure but if I hear good things about Aquaman and Flash might give them a shot as well. Wish I could pick up Superman and Green Lantern but even a characterfag like me can't survive that level of cancer.

>>83211577
Bring back Jakeem Thunders

We Wuz Djinns and Shiet!

>>83216840
I think he just mixed the name up. Giffen is the one connected to Jaime in particular.

>>83211807
Doomsday in the original appearance costume.

Im going for green lantern and flash and whatever comic will follow the manhattan stuff

>>83217047
>Wish I could pick up Superman and Green Lantern but even a characterfag like me can't survive that level of cancer.

Yeah I'd say I'm a characterfag too in some respects but there's only so far one can really go before it stops making sense. Have to draw the line.

>>83217091
I doubt they would have mentioned Johnny's great-grandson believing his stories if the kid wasn't going to turn out to be Jakeem.

>>83215642
>It was shit
>hatin' on Jaime

How do you sleep wityh such a large stick up you butt?

>>83215486
they are now idiot
its part of the rebirth event
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/comics/dc_comics/dc-rebirth-has-the-cast-of-watchmen-already-started-appearing-in-a142046

>>83216840
My bad. I'm sleepy as fuck. I meant Giffen.

>>83215928
On his good days, he's very good.

>>83217232
That's just unconfirmed clickbait and it doesn't make sense for them to be Superman and Supergirl stand-ins anyway.

>>83217220
The New 52 book was terrible, man.

>>83217232
>Could this faceless redhead be Rorschach
Jesus Christ

Is Tomasi really that bad? I was actually excited for the new Superman run.

Fuck Jurgens and Action "Doomsday Again" Comics though

>>83217441
All of Tomasi's Superman work points to 'yes, he's that bad'.

>>83217441
Tomasi in general is good but his Superman is pretty awful. People who were hype are only hype because of his other work. You can read the new 52 Superman death arc that's probably still up right now (or at least in the archive).

>>83217441
Tomasi/Gleason were rock-solid on Batman & Robin, but Tomasi has written some Supes recently and it was pretty damn bad.

You could argue that it's not possible to make Superman/Wonder Woman good, but he just doesn't seem to have a good grasp of the character.

I REALLY wish he were doing the Detective Comics team book instead.

>>83217232
>>83217264
Really sounds like shitty fan forum theories with no bases.

>>83217321
Woops, I though you were talking about the original series.

Sorry but don't really know artists/writers and really DC outside of random info and cartoons. Anyone on the comic list I should look forward too? Want to get into Superman and maybe some team books.

>>83218554
I would suggest you backread if you're interested in Superman. Morrison, Busiek, Johns, Kelly, Waid. I'm not rally excited about anything coming up.

>Billy and Shazamily featured in the splash page
>no ongoing
JUST

At least Supergirl's new costume is delightfully qt.

>>83211320
This is why you buy comics based on talent, not characters

>>83211345
Yeah id much rather have a line wide event where I have to buy every tie in to know what the fuck is going on.

That's much better than paying $3 for a single, extra long floppy

>>83218554
The two Superman titles have...questionable creators.

However, the spinoff titles (Supergirl, Superwoman, New Super-Man, Trinity) are all very promising.

>>83218647
They were mentioned by Johns as one of the things they're gonna bring back along with JSA, Legion, and the New Gods.

I wonder if Johns himself will FINALLY be doing it.
I have a hard time believing he wouldn't make time to work on a monthly.

>>83218881
Orlando on JSA
King on New Gods
Abnett back on Legion

>>83218881

Give me Parker and Shaner on an ongoing, and I'd be a very happy man.

I doubt cereal man will have time, given that he is in full damage control for DCCU right now, with hundreds of millions on the line.

>>83218985
>Abnett back on Legion

I hadn't thought of this but it's not a bad idea, though I didn't like what they did with Sneckie in that run. I just wouldn't want him overworked. I guess E2S will end eventually.

>>83219014
Future Quest is an ongoing.

>>83219043
Hopefully they'll quietly cancel it.

>>83219043
>>83219082
I sort of feel like Earth 2 is going to end up becoming JSA Hunt.

>>83219059

Meant Shazam/Captain Marvel specifically, though I'm happy to see them on anything DC.

>>83216139

It makes everything looks super metallic, and because of it, it highlights any odd lines or details on the models even worse.

Sort of like looking at Howard Porter's art with Hi-Fi coloring and without. When you leave all the textures out and just do flat colors it looks fucking WEIRD.

>>83219116
I don't think they mix E2 with the E0 JSA outside of a future crossover maybe. It will be repaired then left alone. At most maybe Power Girl gets another book to keep it around.

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>>83217022
>Artemis gets something to do
>gets the Lobdell book

Is Supergirl in Metropolis or are they moving her to TV City

>>83211282
Which ones should I read?

Thinking about following Superman for once, but I don't know where to begin with Action Comics.

>>83219235
TV city

>>83219243
Sorry, didn't mean to name-fag, either.

>>83219243
Neither of the Superman book are likely to be good, given the writers on them.

>>83219272

dammit, there goes my (admittedly slight) hopes for Orlando Legion. time to hope Saturn Girl's in Superman and not Action Comics I guess

>>83219243

Best to stick with proven creative teams right now, so I'd say

>Aquaman and Titans (Abnett)
>Batman (Tom King)
>Wonder Woman (Rucka)
>Deathstroke (Priest)
>Blue Beetle (Giffen)
>Supergirl (Orlando)

If there's other characters you're interested in, by all means give them a shot. I'd say the only ones on this list expected to be stinkers are Venditti GLC and Lobdell Red Hood and the Outlaws. Tomasi's Superman is also questionable since while he's a good writer otherwise, his Superman work in the New 52 has been pretty poor. I'm also personally not a fan of Jurgens or Humphries, but whatever, I'll give them a couple issues to win me over.

>>83219399
Put her in Superwoman. That's the sneaky fun looking book.

>>83219476
I fully expect that to be the big "sleeper hit."

>>83219476

She does have a Mon El style hook with the dying thing...

>>83219563
Really not looking forward to the Thor comparisons there.

>>83219400
But Batman has numerous runs, right? I mean, Detective Comics, then there's Batman...do I have to follow them both to keep up, are the stories in each taking place at the same time as each other...? Just stuff like that is what I'm confused about.

I'm asking because I'm kind of done with Marvel thanks to the comics being primarily focused on SJWs and shit, and I'm trying to escape being a casual.

>>83219640
It's going to be better, because we actually know who it is.

>>83219641

Not on the list, but you should read Gotham Academy, especially since DC has bizarrely gone out of their way to keep it alive.

>>83218638
>>83218832
Aw. Oh well. I'll take a look at the other Super comics than.

How are the Batman books? Are they actually good or just what people like to keep saying?

>>83219641

Usually Batman and Detective Comics run different storylines, and will point you in the right direction if it crosses over with something that's been done in the other.

Individual creative teams will do their own thing usually, and they'll tell you otherwise if you need to read another issue to get the rest of the story (in that case I usually just pirate the issue or series in question if it's something I'm not following already).

>>83219641
There might be crossovers eventually but Batman is separate from Tec. Don't freak out about that kind of stuff. You only have to read the book you want to read.

>>83219786
>How are the Batman books? Are they actually good or just what people like to keep saying?

Tom King is a really good writer and has just wrapped up a great run on Grayson, which takes Nightwing and sticks him in crazy sci-fi spy shenanigans. He's a great plotter and handles the characters well to boot.

The rest of the Bat books look pretty mediocre or forgettable, quite honestly. Tynion isn't that great.

>>83219729
Oh I have no doubt.
Better chreator, better character, better everything

>>83219786
Batman is being done by New Hotness Tom King and sounds pretty good.
Detecive Comics is a fun concept, but sadly got a shit writer.
Nightwing will continue the sexy greatness of Grayson.
Batgirl's an interesting one. Hope Larson is wonderful, but her wheelhouse is personal, down-to-earth indie stuff. One wonder what she'll do with a cape book.
Red Hood will be shit.
Harley Quinn will be shit.
I don't have high hopes for Birds of Prey.
All-Star Batman has a divisive writer, but the big stable of rotating artists looks fantastic. Motherfucking Paul Pope!
Super Sons sounds fun, but there's little info on it.
Batman Beyond will continue to be pointless.
Teen Titans might (MIGHT!) be the first time the book's been decent in like...forever.

>>83219858
Think I should read older stuff or think me getting into this new run will be fine? My knowledge of Batman is pretty meh. Hell I hardly know anything about Damian outside of being his kid.

>>83219729
And it has Traci 13 in it

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>>83211839
will it kill them to change up the DC logo's color a bit? Great cover tho.

>>83220006

You should be able to jump into this stuff fine.

Normally the point where a new creative team comes into a book provides a good clean jumping on point for new readers.

I would recommend checking out Snyder's Batman that ran before this point though, it's actually good shit (although it's fashionable on /co/ to hate Snyder, mainly because he botched one highly-hyped arc in the book a couple years back)

>>83220065
America runs on DC.

>>83220008
>>83220008
WAIT WHAT

Damn guess I'm going to have to check this out now.

Wait what happened to the Terrance Thirteen from DeMatteis' Phantom Stranger series?

>>83220088
I hate myself for looking at Snyder and Batman and just want to strangle a baby.

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>>83220118
Yeah she's on the cover here

>>83220315

Who's the chick with the afro next to her?

>>83211282
OH SHI- They're finally ditching the diaper costume on Supergirl!

>>83220381
No clue. Could be Natasha Irons but I'm used to her with dreds or braids instead.

>>83211282
Are they not going to finish Frank Miller's All Star Batman?

>>83220468
I'm gonna miss the shorter hair, though.

>>83220472
Wouldn't surprise me. Weren't her and Traci running around at the same time?

>>83219640
Not the same thing at all. She's not replacing anyone.

>>83218647
Johns said there will be a Shazam book later on and it won't be written by him.

Who is Superwoman again?

>>83220557
New 52 Lois
When Superman died, his energy went to her, Lana, New Super-Man, and someone else.

>>83220487
Since that's Lee work and DC isn't that happy with him I don't see it happening.

>>83217047
>>83217177
It's not really bad being a characterfag, but you have to know your limits. And also give other characters opportunities based on writers.

>>83220582
Wait, so what's the deal with Lana now then?

>>83220582

Man every day I find out it's getting more and more Reigny

>>83220472
Yeah, it looks like she's wearing a silver suit of some sort.

>>83220689
No one knows yet, but she might be the red one on that Superwoman cover.

>>83220315
I hope Steel sees as much use as the cover implies.
Fucking love that guy.

>>83220689
I assume she's the one in the old red suit on the cover there.

There's also the matter of the villain, Ultra Woman, who's probably the shadowed one with the glowing chest.

>>83220468

The new costume is so GOAT. Cute and sexy while actually having a sense of aesthetic. I hope it sticks around for a while.

>>83220517
>Weren't her and Traci running around at the same time?

Yep, it would definitely fit.

I guess it's no surprise that DC would fuck up promoting something like this. As annoying as that stuff can get this is a good opportunity to shill all the female empowerment stuff if all the good Supergals besides Kara are in a book together

New fag here. Why is there hype for Wonder Woman rebirth? Is the writer really good?

>>83220582
>Lana

What are they going to do with that? What if this Superwoman is actually some kind of fusion between Lois and Lana a la Firestorm?

>>83221070
He had one of the best runs on the character years back, and the artists are both excellent.
Plus everything they've said in interviews sounds really promising.

The only downsides are that Rucka and Nicola Scott (one of the artists) have a really cool Image book that'll now be delayed for a year, and hte "Wondy has a secret twin brother" twist sounds kinda weak.

>>83221070

Rucka is praised as one of the best writers for Wonder Woman. He's also been away from Big Two comics for the last few years so people are happy to see him not just return to write Wondy, but superheroes in general.

>>83211282
>To and Seeley on Nightwing
>Damian and Barbara on the cover

Muh dick.

>>83211282
>they stealth fired Graham off Batgirl

Thank the gods.

>>83211282
I am not superhyped, but I'm really excited to read:

>Red Hood and the Outlaws
>Batman
>All star Batman
>Superman
>Supergirl
>Wonder Woman
>Hal Jordan & GLC
>Deathstroke
>Blue Beetle

And maybe:
>Justice League
>New Super-Man
>Superwoman

I'm not expecting much or looking for something deep. I just want fun books with characters I like.

Why are people so excited? I can understand being hyped for Wally coming back, but why the rest of the titles being published? It's not like some big "quality" switch was flipped or anything, it's the exact same writers from pre-Rebirth.

>>83221767
Plus Sam Humphries!

Is this a good jumping point to get into any of those series?

>>83221767
>It's not like some big "quality" switch was flipped or anything
But a quality switch WAS flipped
>it's the exact same writers from pre-Rebirth.
Not the New 52, though, and not on every book.

Plus, if you're counting DCYou era (aka issues 41 to 52 of the longer series), then those writers were literally told to hold off on big changes.

>>83221786
I actually kinda liked Avenger AI.

I think he's got it in him to be a decent writer.

>>83221884
>But a quality switch WAS flipped
How so?

>>83221767
Rucka, King on a bigger book, Giffen back on Blue Beetle

>>83221767
DCYou brought in the talent. You can't underrate signing guys like Orlando, King, Mann to exclusives and getting Priest and Rucka to do books. But you're right that a lot of the bad talent is still around.

>>83221864
It is a manufactured jump on point but some will be harder than others to get into than others.

>>83221864
I don't see why not.

Hard to give a firm "yes" since only Rebirth is out, but the whole idea of a relaunch is to make it as good and accessible as possible.

>>83221767
DC fixed several of the bigger problems with the New 52. The major issue with the New 52 was content. They always had talent, the main problem was that you just can't polish a turd.

>>83221916
>DCYou brought in the talent
Don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing the talent DC has in the stable now, I'm just a bit confused as to why some people think we're entering a utopia where every comic published by DC will be good.

>>83221916
I'm interested on Deathstroke, Titans, Hellblazer and Red Hood.
Do you think they will be hard to get into to a complete DC newfag?

>>83221989
>The major issue with the New 52 was content
Could you explain?

>>83222002
Titans you'll need to read the Rebirth special first if you haven't already and consider reading Titans Hunt if you want (but it's probably more for previous readers than those jumping on now). I think you'll be ok for Deathstroke and Hellblazer. No clue about Red Hood since I don't touch Lobdell.

>>83221995
I don't think people are going that far. Superman and GL are universally admitted to be iffy.

Going to read everything through scans, but gonna pick:

>Batman
>Aquaman
>Flash
>Wonder Woman
>Justice League
>Nightwing
>Deathstroke
>Titans
>All-Star Batman
>Blue Beetle
>Trinity (if it ever comes out)

>>83221910
The biggest two quality improvements are:
Williamson instead of Venditti and Van Jensen on The Flash
Rucka instead of the Finches on Wonder Woman

And then you have:
Abnett instead of Bunn on Aquaman
Tomasi and Gleason instead of Yang on Superman
Larson instead of Fletcher and co. on Batgirl
Williams instead of Sean Ryan on Suicide Squad
King instead of Snyder on Batman (depends on your taste, but King is probably the best up-and-coming writer on the market)

And perhaps some other things:
Percy instead of Pfeifer/Pak on Teen Titans

Beyond that, it's just a matter of looking at the solicitations, looking at the previews, and seeing that things are looking better than they have before.

Is Justice League getting renumbered to 1 or continuing on from 51?

>>83221995
I think you're exaggerating.
There are books most people think will be shit (GL, Action, Red Hood, Detective) and ones nobody is even talking about (Justice League, Cyborg, Birds of Prey).

It's just that people are feeling pretty hyped for the good-looking ones since Rebirth only just came out this week.

>>83222172
>Tomasi and Gleason instead of Yang on Superman

This is a downgrade. The fight club arc was miles ahead of anything Tomasi has done on Superman.

>>83222182
It's being renumbered. It's also going to 52.

>>83222182
Renumbered.

Only Doctor Fate is continuing without a relaunch, but probably for only like an arc. Plus the digital-first books and minis, of course.
Action and Detective are going back to their original numbering.

>>83222182
51 is a lead in to Action Comics, 52 is a lead in to Titans

Justice League is getting a new #1 written by Hitch and drawn by Daniels.

Justice League of America written and drawn by Hitch is continuing to issue 12, and then relaunching into something new

>>83222275
Earth 2: Society is also continuing.

>>83222028
Shit characterizations and removing popular characters that had been around for decades and sold well pre-New 52 just because Jim Lee and Bob Harras thought they were geniuses (lol) and wanted to change shit that didn't need changing just for the sake of changing it. New 52 was the ULTIMATE example in comics history of trying to fix what wasn't broke. Rebirth fixed some, though far from all, of that.

>>83222334
>Earth 2: Society is also continuing.
Thanks for reminding me.

>>83222256
I disagree. And in any case, Tomasi&Gleason have shown to be better in the past, and plus, Tomasi hasn't written much Superman anyway (and to the degree that the recent "Death of Superman" arc has been underwhelming, it can be explained away like the bulk of Convergence: made almost entirely to fill a gap).

Yang's run was more of a letdown than anything, and the few bright spots wouldn't make me say it was better than Tomasi's run (which will have more available to it due to Rebirth) might possibly be.

Is Captain Marvel still called Shazam? If so Rebirth was a failure.

>>83221995
It's not about the books, which can be good or bad, but the overall feeling of the universe and the idea of recovering that sense of legacy and character relationships that defined the DCU for so long.

>>83222275

They're also probably going to use this last arc of Doctor Fate to weld it to the rest of the Rebirth stuff in introducing Kent Nelson back and maybe tie it in with the rest of the JSA.

>>83222402
And it won't solve all. New 52 irreparably fucked everything, I fear.

Hope they make Dr Manhattan into some true godlike multiversal entity. Not omnipotent, but true immortal, like he can't not exist.

>>83222402

People tend to forget that a lot of the DCU was in a pretty dire place in terms of quality right before the reboot.

Now, you could argue that a lot of it could've been fixed without rebooting the universe, but shuffling the deck like that did help out some properties just because it gave them an opportunity for a clean break.

>>83222002
>Deathstroke, Hellblazer and Red Hood
These books are easy to get into and aren't confusing for new readers.

>Titans
No, this one will honestly confuse you and this book is mostly for nostalgia fans.

>>83211282
Bought Rebirth and pre-ordered Green Arrow.

Not sure what else I'm going to get. I'm going to trade wait a lot of this stuff.

>>83222551

Well Watchmen ended with him basically ascending into a higher plane of existence to play god with the universe. Who know where that puts him on the Multiversal Amp.

I'm gonna read everything through scans. Buy the stuff I like, and just drop the stuff that isn't doing anything for me.

I'm hoping for good stuff to come out of Deathstroke, GL titles, Flash, Nightwing, Blue Beetle, The Hellblazer, and Batman Beyond. Also hoping both Titans titles are good, but I'm fully prepared for them to suck.

Namely, Titans has shit characters like Gnaark and Hawk and Dove in it, while I'm not all that keen on Damien being leader of the Teen Titans. I'd rather have Kaldur as the leader while Damien sticks with Batman-related titles and Super Sons.

Speaking of which, I'm also hoping for Super Sons to be at least decent.

>>83222584
They needed DC Now!

>>83222626
>GL
>good stuff

I got some bad news for you

>>83222625
Before Watchmen already makes it clear that he's multiversal. And Rebirth just joined Watchmen universe together with 52.

>>83222506
>but the overall feeling of the universe
Does the DCU even have an overall feeling?

>>83222785
>>83222785
Quality generally. Theyve published pretty much every great work that had an impact on the industry.

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>>83222785
>Does the DCU even have an overall feeling?

The DCU is very focused on intimate, humanistic themes. The universe itself is structured in a way that encourages heroic feats and will bend over backwards to make sure that the heroes save the day in the end.

Marvel on the other hand is very impersonal, if not outright hostile to its heroes at times. Marvel heroes save the day IN SPITE of everything working against them.

>>83211282
Meh I'll stick to marvel.

>>83222584
If some properties really needed to be rebooted (I don't know which ones to be honest, because the best things about New 52 ironically came from book that could have been told without the reboot) they could just have rebooted only those.

>>83222541
>RUINED FOREVER
Don't be that guy

>>83222785
Not if you started to read with The New 52.

>>83222967
Can't downplay the publicity stunt factor. New 52 was a sales bump for the entire line while just rebooting one or two things wouldn't have been as big of splash.

>>83215762
how did you not go back and read the older stuff senpai? I got into with New 52 and then went backa nd read all the best runs, usualy during storytimes on /co/ (4chan comic site)

>>83222870
>Theyve published pretty much every great work that had an impact on the industry
They didn't publish The Spirit, MAD, Tales from the Crypt or Fantastic Four though.
They have published Action Comics however.

>>83223005

True. I started following DC in single trades with the New 52, and I was surprised at just how much continuity and history I uncovered when I started to dig back and read older stuff.

I was also surprised at how much I enjoyed it and how easy it was to get into despite being new to the universe.

Getting into long-running comic settings isn't hard. It just takes a healthy bit of curiosity.

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>>83223046
>Fantastic Four

Literally who?

>>83223033
That's what I've been doing over the past few years. I just haven't read much Superman stuff.

Also I've been so busy working and traveling that I haven't read a comic in pretty much a year. I'm playing catchup on the past year of New 52 stuff right now.

>>83222541
Which is exactly what I said. Until New 52 is undone DC will always have a ton of problems.

>>83222991
Don't be the guy that says the truth? I mean, I'll keep reading, but that won't mean continuity will make sense or some characters won't lose something important to them that's impssible to get back

>>83223046
The Spirit did not have nearly the impact that people think it did.