What are some examples where a character was written as a "bad guy" but the general audience thought he was in the right.
Examples:
Rorschach (audience takes his side, writer wanted them to see him as insane)
Judge Dredd (was origenally supposed to show the horrors of facism, now he's a symbol of justice)
Cyclops
>>83187462
Apparently /co/ for some reason is now sucking the Red Skull's dick because muuuh immigrants.
>>83187462
>Steve
>right
SpOck, Cyclops, Superior Tony.
>>83187578
>Superior Tony
No way anyone thought he was right. He was just entertaining as hell.
Magneto is in the right but audience think he's the bad guy.
>>83187578
>SpOck
There wasn't even a point to make, it was 30 issues story about how Peter should not take his own life for granted, Slott literally spelled the point out by the end.
>>83187524
/co/ sucks every villain's dick like it's candy
>Magneto
>Lex Luthor
>Doom
>>83187578
Superior Tony was in the right until he poisoned the water supply.
>>83187462
>pic
>People complained about Cap being in the classic position of Hitler being punched.
>Marvel assures it was just a play on a classic cover and not to read anything into it.
>Hail hydra.
what's the term for this? When the audience does a 180 on the author's intention. I used to know it.
>>83187524
>being this retarded
If you're literally going to take one candidate's words and put them in the mouth of a villain, then people who supported that candidate are obviously going to say "well now they're just making that villain the good guy".
The fact that red skull is a fictional nazi is irrelevant because only children would go "whoa comic book bad guy supports trump, clearly trump is hitler 2".
>>83187524
Not all of /co/ man some people are just using it as a jumping point to talk /pol/, while others are using that as a jumping point to say see Steve is the bad guy. Also I noticed others are saying it's to make Steve the villain so that Sam can be the one true Cap. Regardless My point is there's a shit ton of different opinions /co/ is no longer a hive mind hell half the time it feels like we're at least 4 different personalities fighting for control.
>>83187578
>>83187724
You guys forgot Sinestro.
>>83188052
/co/ used to be a really great board. Now these people that call themselves /co/mrades sicken me deeply. /co/ was a mistake. It's nothing but trash.
>that foreshadowing
>>83188105
>Sinestro
>villain
>>83187462
>Judge Dredd (was originally supposed to show the horrors of facism, now he's a symbol of justice)
Judge Dredd has always been, to me at least, about flaunting "Justice" in the face of a severe and utter lack of personal "Freedom". Dredd is neither "good" nor "bad", he's just a very "grey" anti-hero who was brought up to mindlessly believe what he was taught through the Justice Department. If anything, he's a very raw character study of people who are "by-products of their own chaotic environment". Same goes for the rest of the citizens and judges in Mega-City 1
>>83188232
I know, anon. But what other option do we have? Where else can we go?
Seriously, please, someone give me another option, because I've spent years trying to find a place to talk about comics but everywhere I've looked sucks and /co/ just keeps getting worse and worse as time goes on.
>>83187888
Go read the comics, MCUfag. Hydra has nothing to do with the nazis.
>>83187462
>>83188467
Well, not "nothing" to do with the Nazis. Strucker was a former Nazi afterall and he funded HYDRA using nazi gold, but to say that HYDRA = Nazis is just wrong.
>>83188402
Dredd is a character meant to be humorous first and foremost, all that stuff is purposely over the top and not meant to be taken at face value.
>>83187885
oppositional reading
I'm pretty sure someone at Marvel admitted that they didn't understand why people flocked to Cyclops after AvX.
>>83187462
Everyone in Dumbing of Age.
