What are your thoughts on Moana /co/? Do you think it has potential to be great or will just end forgettable?
Depends on how much of the trotting about the Pacific islands chatting with gods stuff has remained intact from the early art.
Given Disney's recent track record, it will probably be decent at worst.
I have no expectations beyond that, but I had no expectations for Zootopia, either.
HOL UP
THICC
>>83184914
My biggest disappointment is the lack of thicc-ness. I was hoping for at least Nani tier.
>>83184782Subtle
>>83184782
Why is Roadhog not wearing his mask and why is junkrat suddenly turned in to Alejandra?
>>83184944
Doesn't have the artist who's really into thick women.
Also I think the Animation department spent all their load getting Giantess Fetish the Movie Green Lit.
>>83184782
>that loss reference
subtle
>>83185075
>that awesome lava deity
gee, CGI version will look so much better!
Piggy companion is a QT
>>83185075
>Doesn't have the artist who's really into thick women.
Chris Sanders will never work for Disney again after what they did to him over Bolt.
>>83185215
>>83184906
>>83184782
>looks more black than pacific islander
Can I have a irl comparison for reference?
Last thing I want is shitposters using the WE WUZ MOAI BUILDERS N SHIET
>>83185215
I remember years ago it was rumoured that they were going to try out that Paperman technique for this movie but then they decided to make it full CGI... The character models apart from the pig look so shit but everything else looks great. Trailer when?
>>83185172
>gee, CGI version will look so much better!
Actually, given Disney Animation's current CG track record, I expect it'll look pretty damn good.
I do lament the move away from 2D, though. The designs never have quite the same amount of uniqueness as they do in the concept art.
>>83185375
Least as long as Lasseter is in charge since he's the one that scrapped the original plan for Bolt.
>>83185423
>that model
>shit
come on man
>>83185394
Unfortunately, Googling for Hawaiian/Maori/Polynesian women gets you a lot of "Island Beauties" which aren't exactly representative of the populace any more than Miss America is representative of the U.S.
Pic related is what I feel they're going for.
>>83185215
>pig has a more attractive face than the grill
>>83185375
To be fair, American Dog looked like shit.
>>83185394
>>83185512
And, of course, this is supposed to take place in antiquity, a mythological age. So really, the best examples would be from early contact with Europeans...
>>83185441
ho, a non collar nick. byron loved colars, it almost costed it him a movie.
>>83185215
Music Group Disney had performing at D23
Really hope they stick to using them for the whole Soundtrack.
>>83185562
Absolutely agreed, but the point remains that he won't work for Disney because of it. Not that it matters; How to Train Your Dragon was better than anything Disney was putting out at the time.
>>83185375
Why? What happened with Bolt?
>>83185215
and that animal she holds up aint bad either.
>>83185630
had to be kiddified.
>>83185630
Basically, Sanders had this concept for a movie called American Dog which had some of the same plot elements (dog thinks he has powers) as Bolt does today. He was in development with the movie with Disney, slated to direct, when Lasseter stepped in and said, "Look, this isn't working. The movie's a mess. The plot doesn't make sense and it doesn't feel like a Disney product. Here's the changes you need to make." Which is what Lasseter does.
Sanders refused.
They bumped him off the movie, replaced him with directors who would listen to what they were told, and the movie became Bolt.
>>83185621
Also Croods.
>>83185630
It started of as American Dog with him being a straight up actor and getting dumped in the desert and having a Jackrabbit and Cat as companions while he makes it back.
Was going to be Traditionally animated. But that was trashed and the project Fast Tracked as they wanted Princess and the Frog to be Disney's big reintroduction to Traditional Animation.
https://vimeo.com/91895271
And then came the script changes and everything went downhill.
>>83185751
>>83185630
Here's a description of the movie that could have been, plus some early art. It's VERY Sanders, which is a good thing or a bad thing, depending on how you feel about his art and stories.
http://lostmedia.wikia.com/wiki/American_Dog_(Incomplete_2007_Disney_Film)
>>83185630
Chris Sanders thinks Disney is too inflexible when it comes to the creative process and risk taking in story telling. He's been a critic since the late 80s and actually did a neat little critique known as the "Big Bear Aircraft Company."
http://thebigbearaircraftcompany.blogspot.com/
Enjoy.
>>83184782
Not interested
>>83186036
>Chris Sanders thinks Disney is too inflexible when it comes to the creative process and risk taking in story telling
hes just salty his original pitch sucked dick
/co/ will only give this any attention because hurr muh brown gurl fetish. They'll talk about it for about a week or two and then move on.
>>83185172
>gee, CGI version will look so much better!
It literally will.
>>83184782
I'm at a loss for words.
O wow I thought it was fake but its true the chest tattoo is a well known meme
>>83186036
He's right. You still see that mentality in networks as with CBS kicking Supergirl out and passing on their Nancy Drew show because it would have made the network "too female" leaning and outside the demographic they are assured watches them (old grandpas)
>>83186426
its not actually.
>>83185215
piggy is the plot twist villain.
>>83185394
If this is australia or new zwaland they are right.
Oceania was the first land colonized Outside of africa
>>83184782
Same directors as Aladdin and Hercules
I just think it's cool they got the Rock. It's at least guaranteed to make it's money back now. Plus I actually like him so I am looking forward to seeing how he does in it.
I don't care, as long as there's porn of the big guy.
>>83187104
I've heard theories that some oceanic peoples (from the eastern parts) are actually decended from people from the Pacific Northwest
>>83187223
meant to quote
>>83187076
If they go with a "Trustworthy character is actually the villain" twist again they've gone too far.
>>83184782
didn't some major publication actually publish this edited version?
>>83184782
>What are your thoughts on Moana /co/?
Outside of porn fanart, I really don't expect much.
Visually gorgeous, sure, same Disney brand of family friendly writing that served them well going on 90 years, right?
I'm sure there will be some clickbait fabricated controversy like Ghostbusters to bring all of 4chan together in a shitpost tsunami.
>>83187282
Alan Tudyk is confirmed to be in the cast so probably.
>>83184906
>smacks lips
>>83184782
It's been said a million times, but I really prefer 2D animation from Disney. I know 3D probably is easier to produce and sells better, but something about the 3D animated Disney movies feels so empty. The stories are still fine, I just feel like the 90s and early 2000s Disney stuff is gorgeous and the newer stuff just doesn't really wow me anymore than something from the average Dreamworks movie.
>>83187859
I agree. I know Princess and the Frog gets swept under the rug a lot, but it has an endearing atmosphere that is directly tied to its animation. It adds a certain richness to the film that is ultimately lost in CG movies.
>>83187859
I have to disagree. I had more fun with Zootopia than any late 90s Disney movie.
>>83185215
Art of her fucking the pig when?
The fact whenever this movie comes up people use the edited picture for the OP fills me with glee.
>>83188150
I just noticed it. It's a stale meme, but that's pretty funny.
>>83188150
Are you implying I didn't know I used a edited picture? I'm sure me and many others purposely use that picture.
>>83188145
really?
>>83188233
He's saying he's glad you use the edited on
>>83188233
I'm implying that whenever i come across discussions about this movie, i forget about the comic edit and when i notice it in the OP image it gives me a chuckle.
>>83184782
God I wish Disney didn't have the same fucking teaser poster for their every new film.
>>83188150
Fuck you, you got me.
I keep thinking how lame that shit is and you fuckers always manage to get get, fuck you.
>>83188548
>>83188476
My mistake, I know loss is beaten to death but subtle versions still kill me.
>>83188103
I enjoyed it too, but it's story is what I enjoyed and not so much it's visuals. I'm speaking on a pure visual level here. I feel like Disney's storytelling is pretty much at the same level it's ever been currently other than them all having the exact same twist.
>>83188145
Ok, give me ~30 minutes
>>83186036
Am I reading John K.?
>All the stupid writers are poopyheads that are messing with my artist ubermensch genius! Stupid dumb "plot" guys messing with my genius visual script, they should have been completely marginalized in any right thinking company in favor of their obvious superiors, the artists!
>>83187859
>I know 3D probably is easier to produce
It's not easier to produce goddamn it, it's much harder and much much more expensive. Why do you think there are practically zero independent/small animators using 3D? Where did this meme come from? Why do people keep fucking spreading it?
>>83189231
People try to justify the switch to 3D and saying that it's because 2d does not make money hurts them. So they come up with that bullshit
>>83189231
I didn't know. That's why I said probably. I just assumed it was the case since that's the only type of animated movies that come out nowadays. It must be that it gets more asses in seats in that case.
>>83184891
>>83189515
It does, 3d costs more to produce but it makes so much more money than 2d that it is still more profitable to make a 3d movie.
>>83184782
>Tangled
Rapunzel cries over Finn's dead body and brings him back to life with magic
>Brave
Merida cries over her mother's dead bear body and brings her back to life as well as back to humanity through magic
>Frozen
Elsa cries over Anna's dead frozen (carlos.jpg) body and brings her back to life through magic
Okay /co/. How is the big guy going to die and how will Moana's crying over his body bring him back?
>>83185394
WE WUZ MOAI BUILDERS N SHIET
>>83184891
i dont get it
ggfggge?
so, so, fa, so, so, so, mi?
>>83189618
It wasn't Elsa that brought Anna back, it was Anna that brought herself back. The act of true love was her jumping in the way to save Elsa at the risk of her own life.
>>83184782
What's Roadhog doing in muh Disney film?
>>83189719
More like La, dOh, So, So
>>83184782
It would help increase tourism in the Pacific.
>>83188145
>>83185215
https://u.pomf.is/uepmpg.png
I should have used concept sketches as ref not 3d, she looks more African than Polynesian... oh well.
>>83184782
I forgot this was coming out. Kinda thought it already had, actually.
>>83184782
I want to fuck that Moana.
>>83190665
They haven't started promoting it yet. Between Star Wars, Jungle Book, Civil War, Jungle Book, Black Panther announcements, Beauty and the Beast teasers, Finding Dory promotion, Queen of Katwe trailers and Dr. Strange set pictures, the only Moana related things I've seen are toys from Hasbro and a Movie Surfers about it.
>>83185580
Eh. Give them a couple of push up bras, hairstylist, and a little makeover and they could be pretty hot.
>>83190621
wew
There is gonna be cannibalism?
>>83184782
I'm at a loss, what will this movie be about?
>>83190793
There was also this.
>>83189140
Creators clashing with what the studio wants isn't exclusive to John K, and it's ruined a lot of media.
It drove half of Marvel's directors away. One even made a movie about it.
>>83184782
My only thought is there had better be some lewds of that delicious brown grill.
Lin Manuel Miranda is writing the score, so I'm cautiously optimistic, even though Hamilton is shit and only a cashgrab. But still, some songs from it go hard as fuck:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Cr4qzjwiE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFuB9FuiKc4
They made Maui into a monster!!
He is the hero of all Polynesians and not a fat ugly bastard!!!
>>83185004
Yeah, like a brick.
>>83193463
What a twat. Runs off all snippy about working for Marvel but then comes back for Iron Man 3 in an acting capacity and comes back to direct for Disney's Jungle Book. And all after his little pet project Cowboys vs Aliens fails to garner any interest.
>>83184782
Iwant to like it because polynesian stuff I find interesting, but it will probably be snarky and full of shit like "LOL we're about to do a cliche lets point it out but do it anyway." self awareness.
>>83194069
It will as accurate about Polynesia as they are about medieval Europe.
>>83189583
>tabs
Disgusting sub-human trash.
Why is the dude so fucking hideous? This is why lesbianism is on the rise.
>>83187216
For you
>>83184782
So little prerelease material it feels underwhelming. I go to the movie thestres all the time and still haven't seen a trailer or teaser and this is coming out soon. I don't think it will be a surprise hit. Finding Dory will probably do better.
>>83196861
My guess? They're waiting for their star, Dwayne Johnson, to finish filming for Fast 8 and promotion for Central Intelligence with Kevin Hart, before going all in with Moana. That way he can spend the entire summer promoting it without any large breaks.
>>83197176
Most likely.
![man-sleeping-keyboard[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AQrAkK3.jpg "man-sleeping-keyboard[1].jpg")
>>83185215
Looks like literally every other 3D Disney Princess but with a wider nose and different hair/skin tone.
Revolutionary.
I fucking hate this artstyle. I really do.
>>83193459
>we'll never get to watch the adventures of a cute ocean faring ocelot
>>83184782
>Do you think it has potential to be great or will just end forgettable?
Why not both?
>>83197966
>goes to McDonalds
>complains about burgers
Could you be this stupid??
>>83193747
>And all after his little pet project Cowboys vs Aliens fails to garner any interest.
Irrelevant and reveals you just have a hateboner for him
>>83188219
>Loss
>Stale
fuck off, it's eternal
>>83190621
ABSOLUTE MADMAN
10/10
>>83185394
iirc, and i'm probably not, Polynesians descend southern indians, who are basically black caucasians. they convergently developed some african-looking features but are unrelated to them.
>>83189231
it's not necessarily harder, but it allows for a much better division of labor because you can have groups and groups of people dedicated to subtle things like lighting, rigging, texturing, rendering, etc. so, essentially, you can get more people on it because the guy in charge of the lighting doesn't necessarily have to be good at anything else. but, it costs more money to make them as an exchange.
2D movies kind of require a much larger group of highly skilled people who are proficient in all of those things; lighting, anatomy, movement, color, etc.
as a result, though, CGI doesn't have half the charm and expression that 2D does.
>>83197966
>disney will never go back to making 2d movies
it hurts
>>83188150
Any day now, media outlets will use it as well
>>83198795
My burgers shouldn't look 7 years old.
>>83202395
it's actually ~80 years old, you keep coming back, when will you learn?
>>83202395
she's colored now, that's enough innovation
>>83184782
I just want there to be a Zootopia reference
>>83184782
...is that really a Loss joke tattoo'd on the big guy?
