http://panels.net/2016/05/26/on-steve-rogers-1-antisemitism-and-publicity-stunts/
tl;dr version: its not okay to make captain america an anti-semite
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>>83179983
Captain America was created by two Jews, so I think it would be in poor taste to make him an antisemite. It would be like a black guy creating a hero character that's a secret klansman.
>>83181298
think about where you are. 4chan would tell that man that he was a credit to his people.
>>83179983
Clickbaiting garbage.
I can't believe everyone is buying into this "cap is evil!111" bullshit.
>>83181353
I can't work out who's buying into it. The movie audience doesn't read comics, and the comics audience already knows this is either a brainwash plot or undercover plot. Who the fuck is getting mad?
>panels.net
NOW I BELIEVE IT!
Also
inb4 /pol/ shitposting
As much as I think the story's stupid and I don't like Marvel's tabloid-esque philosophy on gaining readership, I don't think we should be encouraging articles like this where the essential message is: It's time to get rid of free speech.
>how dare you use eleven million deaths as clickbait
>yes, yes, I know 616 Hydra doesn’t have the same 1:1 relationship with Nazism that MCU Hydra does
>I know this article is bullshit but
>>83181500
It just ignores the specifics of the thing in favor of the wholesale censorship of the "feel" of it.
>>83181517
>Eleven million
I'm not even /pol/, I'm just mad that this person has clearly done no research.
>>83181409
The typical tumblr crowd who learned everything they know from sensationalist bloggers and twitter hashtags.
>>83179983
Guys.
I don't think the /pol/ containment board is working anymore...
>>83181599
Could they be adding in the gypsies, homosexuals, Catholics, cripples, etc. into their count?
>>83181722
>in doubt, blame the scapegoat
>>83181733
>implying they ever get out
We can not talk about CarlArts, Steven Universe, Adventure Time, Censored cover art,Frollo, Scott Pilgrim, Brave, Elsa, Rebecca Sugar and many others without those clowns shit all over the place
>>83181733
>anymore
>>83181500
>mfw 40% of millennials support banning certain speech
>>83181852
It's not a scapegoat if it's true.
This pathetic manufactured antisemitism outrage has their stink all over it.
>>83181758
I mean its possible, but surely making cap a anti semite wouldn't be impacted by the non jews.
>>83181852
>we can't talk about heavily politicized things without people getting political
>>83181986
>IT'S TRUE, SCREENCAPS TOLD ME SO
redpilled as fuck
>>83181552
Until recently 616 HYDRA had an even closer relationship with Nazism than MCU HYDRA.
>>83181599
>>83181758
Even then you'd probably have to include death squad kill counts or POW deaths to reach that total.
>>83182028
>getting political means hitler did nothing wrong SJW are ruining the earth gas the kike race wars now
In the new MARVELNOW, Marvel writers reveal that Black Panther has always been secretly a white klansman using skinchanging technology.
>>83182028
Someone did not read the rules
/co/ is about discussing cartoons or comics
>>>/pol/ is the hellhole dedicated to "heavily politicized" bullshit you claim
>>83179983
>panels.net
Oh God, people actually visit that site?
>>83181298
MUH 17 QUADRILLION
>>83181758
Pretty sure it would be 12 then.
>>83182180
>and now to prove this site is terrible I'm gonna read it ALL DAY LONG
/pol/ logic. Don't bother
>>83181852
Man, go to the author Twitter and see who is complaining at him.
I went, they are all butthurt moviefags,even it being related to comics they just don't stop talking about the movies. Go there right now.
>>83181500
>I don't think we should be encouraging articles like this where the essential message is: It's time to get rid of free speech.
>article is saying people shouldn't write this sort of comic
>post is saying people shouldn't write this sort of article...because it means banning free speech
>>83182058
15 million in camps;
~6 million jews, ~5 million red guard and 4 million assorted people with disabilities, homosexuals, dwarves, gypsies and the like.
It wasnt a good time.
>>83182084
>SJW are ruining the earth
That's true.
Cap will gas the KIKES.
>>83182150
This is so fucking disingenuous, entertainment gets political all the time.
>>83182258
There's a difference between "You can't write this kind of story because it's offensive to me personally and should be banned" and "Do not throw your support behind an article just because you hate the same thing as it"
there is literally nothing with being anti semitic
>>83182414
There's a point where the discussion turns from politics to just straight up "Nigger this, nigger that" like the Southern Bastards thread yesterday.
>>83182486
>"You can't write this kind of story because it's offensive to me personally and should be banned"
Nowhere in the article does it say they should be legally banned from printing this comic. That's an association you've added on yourself.
"You shouldn't do this, for moral reasons" =/= "You should be banned from doing this."
>>83181353
Many people know it's not going to last, but still think it's gross for marvel to do, especially since it's just a publicity stunt.
>>83181733
You must be new
Afternoon /co/ is mostly times a giant /pol/ b8because that's when they are out of the school
>>83179983
I don't know. I mean, the whole thing is just shit clickbait in comic form, no doubt.
For one, I honestly don't know how much Nazi Hydra is. The article seems to imply so, but if Hydra hates everyone who's not white, then the author is saying that being an anti-semite is inherently worse than being racist in general.
Like, make him hate black people, but also jews? Too far!
And while it is true that this betrays everything the OG Captain America stood for, it's been what, 70 years? As shit as this thing is, we can't also hold every character to the inteded symbolism they had decades ago. Kirby is long dead, and I think he made his Captain America just the way he wanted too, and even though this is completly contrary to what he wrote, his work and artistic vision is still out there, untouched.
They're gonna be pissed when they hear about this.
>>83181500
when will this criticism=censorship meme end
>>83182584
Moviefag detected.
>>83184134
If you honestly think this isn't some false memory bullshit and actually "betrays everything the OG Captain America stood for" you're just as dumb as the type of retard who wrote that article.
>>83184474
I never implyed otherwise, I'm just responding to the arguments in the OP, who is not saying that either. What are you talking about?
>>83184296
except that was an amazing side story in its own personal universe that actually made sense
Do not compare that to this tripe that only changes Cap to a Hyrdra agent for twist's sake, and not creating an alternate backstory around it
How this could have not sucked: Make Captain Hydra be a Hydra agent from the begining, with his own version of a Hydra Buckey that harks back to his original comic run. That could have been fun
>>83184761
it doesn't have an alternate backstory because Cap's being fucking manipulated. His archenemy now runs HYDRA and has telepathy . Jesus Christ these anons are grasping at straws to be upset.
>>83184296
>Communists being upset that someone becomes a communist.
>>83179983
The problem I have with the article is that I think for Spencer this isn't just clickbait bullshit, I think he's trying to write a topical political story, and to make it more compelling than his earlier "Cap tells off racists" stuff with Steve he's getting into the mindset of what draws people to it, and he's dropping a first issue bombshell.
It may end up being fucking stupid, but I don't think it's cynical--if anything, he's too earnest for current cape comics.