So Johns is still the undisputed modern master of cape comics?
>>83154115
He was always shit. His husbandos are shit, his JSA is wanking muh Golden Age, Aquaman is shitty Namor and nobody gives a fuck about him and he raped New Gods.
>>83154191
Fuck off Moore
>>83154191
>He was always shit.
His Green Lantern run is a modern classic
>his JSA is wanking muh Golden Age
Not a bad thing
>Aquaman is shitty Namor
It was a harmless 12 issue run
>>83154191
a lot of your post is bad but
>His husbandos are shit
This is most bad, there is literally nothing wrong with wanting to be dommed by Sinestro and Captain Cold
>>83154265
>a modern classic
modern standards a really low
This event was pretty lame. I liked the ideas but he could have carried them out differently and maybe not kill off the CS but since yet another flash opened up the timeline i guess we can get them back.
This was John's poorest story in years.
I loved the concept of the JL becoming gods, tho. Sadly nothing happened with it.
Why did this board turn on him like this? You faggots don't like action anymore? I can tell testosterone levels are low here after the reception of BvS but this is getting out of hand.
>>83154115
John s has been shit since Blackest night starte. Aside from throne of atlantis almost everything he has done was either shit or mediocre. Darkseid war was terrible
>>83154427
What goes so wrong in someone's life to makw them end up like you?
>>83154614
Terrible how.
>>83154522
Then ending was good
Crime Syndicate only really have one story in them
Didn't like how small Anti-Monitor felt
>>83154522
This
It sounded neat but it turned out to be more of a decompressed mess with dropped plotlines and underdeveloped ideas and characters everywhere.
I never gave a shit about the gods stuff
it was just a fun action story with some mystery
I think the last story from him I legitimately liked was Sinestro Corps War.
>>83155303
same here
>>83154115
No? His whole Justice League run was fucking terrible.
His Aquaman was better.
He is by no mean the Citizen Kane of writers.
>>83154593
Darkseid War was shit.
>50 issues of Justice League
>all of them are shit
Johns is a hack.
>>83154115
>we'll never see Darkseid look like this again
It hurts, lads, because its fantastic.
>>83155303
You didn't like Superman and the LoSH? Really? It was one of the best things he's written.
>>83155384
>Justice League run was fucking terrible.
it was fine
team books with strong heroes are hard to do
>>83154663
Bad ideas, really bad charecterization, retcons other writters in every story, lies in every interview. really stupid dialgue and block other writters from using characters.
That's why: he is terrible
So what was the Joker's true name then?
>>83155741
John Henry
>>83155741
The chair didn't reveal it
turns out there are 3 jokers
>>83155838
Well that's totally not very exciting after all that build up is it?
>>83155741
there are three
>>83154115
Boy that was a bad comic.
As in awful.
>>83155901
what about all the "moments" it had?
Lol people under 25 shouldn't read DC. Maybe gwenpool is more their speed.
>>83155633
>it was fine
It wasn't. It was shit.
The only good part of it was Forever and the JL tie-ins Evil, and that's because Johns wasn't writing the JL.
Morrison JLA was a thousand times better. Hell, he managed to make Electric Blue Superman more interesting than John's Nu52 Superman (really? making Superman 'evil' again? having him hook up with Wondy? Why?)
>>83156050
How was it shit exactly.
>>83155933
I felt more like it was one long flat and loud note. Just too much and off key.
Nothing accomplished after the war except make Darkseid a baby.
Geoff Johns is such a Fun Light-hearted writer.
SSSOOOOO much more fun than Alan "Havkfraud" Moore who ruined comic books.
Just look at all this FUN
>>83156033
Gwenpool is much better than this dreck.
>>83156166
>>Nothing accomplished after the war except make Darkseid a baby.
Anti-monitor either dead or back in possession of his chair
WW has a twin
Jessica is a GL
>>83156114
Shitty story lines, shitty ICs (Pandora, Grail, Jessica Cruz, Graves), a thousand unsolved plotlines, boring action scenes, Jobseid, terrible characterizations, pointlessly killing characters off for shockvalue, pointless edgy gore, terrible decompression, characters weren't fun.
I mean, compare Geoff Johns JL to Mark Waid's ANAD Avengers. It's like comparing a Michael Bay film to a based MCU Film.
>>83156369
Oh boy, more human GLs in the same sector. As if the pointless Baz wasn't enough. Both Johns originals. Woo.
>>83156266
Gwenpool is a tad better than this, unfortunately.
At least Gwenpool knows it's dumb as hell and rolls with it. DC seems to still think it can take itself seriously after all this time.
>>83156411
>Jobseid
He went toe-to-toe with Anti-Monitor for a while, that was pretty impressive
>compare Geoff Johns JL to Mark Waid's ANAD Avengers
Both worlds better than Bendis/Hickman Avengers
>>83156501
They're teaming up now, it's what Johns was always planning
>>83156185
Look what Alan Moore made Geoff Johns write. God, Alan Moore is such a joyless edgy tryhard.
>>83156185
Honestly, I do think that is fun
>>83154593
/co/ is fickle. Give it time. They'll come back around.
>>83156185
So...I don't follow much DC, but this Grail chick is right up my street. I'd hit that.
>>83156593
I'll take Hickman over Johns any day.
>>83156902
>100 issues of dull build up to a shit event
>>83155577
It looks like shit
>>83156963
Wait is that Johns of Hickman?
>>83156185
Fucking Moore!
They ruined superboy prime too
>>83156593
>He went toe-to-toe with Anti-Monitor for a while, that was pretty impressive
It wasnt, The anti-monitor vs Darkseid was left less damage on gotha, than a mild earthquale. Bot die in one panel.
>>83157097
Better than what we've had for the past 5 years.
>>Nothing accomplished after the war except make Darkseid a baby.
And the advent of naked Amazon parenting.
>>83157140
Hickman
Johns stories stand on their own
>>83156185
so who is that getting shot by the Omega sanction?
>>83156963
Are you talking about Johns?
>>83157215
That is one old ass looking baby
>>83157233
Superwoman of the Crime Syndicate.
>>83157215
oh okay, I'm only hearing about this Grail chick today, and we get to see her naked already. I might come back to DC.
>>83157229
>Johns stories stand on their own
Johns had to shit on Alan Moore's legacy just so people didnt forget about his shitty JL run in a year. He even had to result to clickbait with the Joker.
why did they make the anti monitor so weak. it was the anniversary of coie and he's a fucking useless piece of shit
>>83157283
>Didn't know about the Darkseid War
how casual are you?
>>83157441
Usually don't read JLA characters, they bore the shit out of me. Only DC thing I've been reading in over a year is Omega Men.
>>83157229
lel.
New Avengers > Anything Johns has done since Sinestro Corps War.
>>83154115
I just couldn't believe this issue.
What a mess. What a waste of beautiful art.
Fanfiction level writing. As challenging as a Stardust comic. The main bad guy is polished off on the final pages of the penultimate issue.
...I guess as the other bookend of the New 52 it's effective, though. It started with a crappy Darkseid story by Johns and it ends with one.
>>83157430
The Anti-monitor celebration was giving him a backstory
>>83157477
Honestly, you made the right choice not reading Geoff John's Justice League (especially Darkseid War). Trust me, Grail ain't worth it. Stay away.
>>83157515
Hackmans run is literally one of the all time worst runs
>>83157547
>It started with a crappy Darkseid story by Johns and it ends with one
It's like poetry, it rhymes
>>83155577
Debatable.
I don't know if it is a good thing that the King is dead so he doesn't have to see it, or a bad thing because it prevents him from erasing Johns from existence with a single angry scowl.
>>83157547
Beautiful Johns Pottery.
>>83157620
That is pretty much what I've heard for some time now.
Grail just looks hot as hell, but she does also appear to be absolutely copy and paste evil chick archetype.
>>83157477
How casual?
Marvel has been terrible for the last 5 years while DC has been brilliant since the NU52
>>83157770
She's as edgy as a linkin park song
>>83156528
Haha holy fucking shit you people are retarded.
>>83157813
Linkin Park aren't edgy. They're just a bunch of whiny shitheads who try to hard to be edgy. They have daddy issues and like to cry about it and have problems handling rejection because they're all a bunch of little bitches.
>>83157811
>DC has been brilliant since the NU52
Johns would call you a stupid fag for thinking that.
>>83157823
Decent humor comic > boring "epic" comic.
>>83157547
>It all begins here. Do not skip to the last page. Do not let a friend or message board ruin this comic for you. The future (and past) of the DC Universe starts here. Don’t say we didn’t warn you!
> “Rebirth is about focusing in on the core of he character and their respective universe,” says writer and DC Entertainment Chief Creative Officer Geoff Johns. “It brings back what has been lost: the legacy of the characters, the love and the hope of the DCU!”
tl;dr Johns says "fans were always dumb for liking Le Edgy Nu52, thanks for the money tho"
>>83157597
HE HAD A BACKSTORY. IT WAS BETTER THAN THIS.
>>83158036
He then blamed his (and DC's) terrible comics on Alan Moore
And now he's gone off to Hollywood to suck Snyder dick (the dick of the man who raped Watchmen).
>>83158114
It's okay! Geoff Johns made him better!
>>83157823
Gwenpool is satire. 'comic' in the literal sense. It's light, almost weightless.
This was supposed to be THE main event. And it SUUUUUUUCKS.
>>83158036
And they wonder why we pirate.
>>83158198
Sucks how.
>>83158198
You pirate because you're cheap.
>>83158114
But DC retake their own characters and story lines every few years. Nothing is relevant for more than a short while because each writer wants to make it their own.
>>83158235
it does kinda feel like it was written by a 14 year old. From character design to plot development, it's all quite unimpressive and amateurish.
>>83158036
Haha DC sure trolled me into liking the nu52.
>>83158464
Elaborate how though. Put more thought into your argument instead of insults this time.
>>83158514
Burden of proof isn't on me buddy.
>>83158514
Just look at Grail. And the shit pacing. Also, the utter waste of the crime syndicate.
>>83158464
This
It really showed me how much these 'events' and things are just for manchildren
>>83158514
>Desperately trying to defend storyline of DC/Marvel.
Buddy, it's okay. Don't worry. They can't all be winners.
>>83158602
I always get disheartened when a book I like is dragged into one of these bastard events. It reminds me what's awful about the big 2 every single time.
Interrupts or ignores each individual books story to shoehorn it into another, where characters will be written incoherently by writers not familiar with them.
And in the end, they're all basically the same event anyway.
>DC Bendis puts Barda and Scott back together only to drive them apart again
I thought Rebirth was supposed to improve DC?
>>83158235
The plot and the characters.
>>83158290
Because I am poor. Even so I buy comics. Just not all the comic.
>>83158420
The Anti-Monitor was unique. The ultimate villain. Pure. Shorn of weakness, or anything that made him sympathetic. Evil incarnate - literally. The crystallized malignance of an entire evil universe.
And what did we learn about this Mobius?
Not a goddamn thing.
>>83158514
Read it. And weep. Don't ask us "why is it bad", read it and you will know.
>>83159205
Don't compare Johns to Bendis
>>83159207
Is the Anti-Monitor consider the essential archvillain of the DC Universe? He's still a very unknown character by the masses, compared to Darkseid. Think he'll get used more?
>>83160030
>Is the Anti-Monitor consider the essential archvillain of the DC Universe
Yes (rarely being used makes him more special)
Marvel has nothing comparable
>>83156166
Also lex luthor is ruler of apokalips as shit as the issue was I'm hype for that
