ITT we remember the humble beginnings of the New 52 and the greatness it brought us.
I loved catwomans entire run
Rebirth canceled her
That makes me a sad panda
Dial H was cool
>>83142638
Her run was 90% shit, that's some bad taste. I'm fine with them taking a break from her. She is fun, but not fun enough to sustain a constant monthly.
>>83142604
Still no idea what were they thinking.
Johns' Aquaman run.
The Flash by Manapul.
Am I missing anything else?
>>83142782
Dial H, Swamp Thing and Animal Man. So... Vertigo books, Aquaman and Flash.
Batman & Robin run by Tomasi. Fucking DOPE
The mess that was Jon/Kon
I know comics aren't ONLY for children and all, but the idea of Batman and Catwoman having Red Shoe Diaries level sex on panel in a mainline book just makes me uncomfortable.
Which is odd, because I loved those unused pages where Selina realizes Batman is Bruce and strips naked on his front lawn. But this page always weirded me the fuck out.
>>83142980
It baffles me that editorial wouldent let selina know his identity but we're fine with luthor figuring it out.
And the way luthor figured it out just highlighted how retarded it was that more people dident figure it out from that.
>>83142707
every now and then someone at DC pitches something like this and it gets through
green team
the movement
telos
bloodlines
klarion
>>83143472
And absolutely nobody asked for those. Klarion at least has 5 fans, pretty sure I saw his picture on avatars elsewhere. But who gives flying fuck about Telos and Bloodlines?
Then again, I thought same thing about Sugar & Spice in Legends of Tomorrow and I changed my mind so hard.
>>83142980
The sex scene was just there to shock people. It doesn't help that the comic was written by a pretty mediocre writer. Since then, the shock has worn off and Winick's run is viewed as disposable.
>>83142604
Animal Man #1
>>83142707
That was 100% "great idea, incredibly draggy execution"
Earth 2 until #35 or so.
this.
>>83142604
It did have a lot of great comics, but that's despite the New 52 not because of it. Everyone forgets how slapped together and poorly planned it was.
>>83143726
It got pretty shit after #12
>>83143697
Rememebr when they gave Power girl a shitty outfit and got her blacked?
Dial H is great but #13 was really something special in and of itself. Stealthily one of the best Batman stories in recent memory.
this and forever evil in general
>>83143913
>Open-Window Man will never have an ongoing
Mah stripperfu.
>>83144022
It hurts every day
Speaking of rebirths...
Sinestro, by Bunn of all people, it's easily a 8/10 comic as a whole.
Surely we cannot forget this
>>83142812
>>83143655
so is new 52 animal man actually good
>>83144137
Yep.
>>83144137
It was until Rotworld.
>>83144159
It was good after Rotworld too, Rotworld was just a big stain on the book in the middle.
>>83144137
It was good while it was coming out, but with Rotworld, and the stuff that came after, it's hard to enjoy now.
>>83144102
Here's what I don't get, if Geoff Johns supposedly doesn't like Batman, and loves Green Lantern, why did he have Batman make Hal look like the biggest punkass bitch that ever was the first chance he got?
No amount of stupid retcons are going to make him anything but Superman to me.
>>83144102
I keep seeing this page. Never read the book it's from. Did Bruce build up his identity, as if Hal would be shocked by who it is, for three pages or something?
>WHO THE HELL'S BRUCE WAYNE?
>I...I am. I'm Bruce Wayne.
>Oh. Okay. I'm Hal.
>>83144363
you could sneak this page into ASBAR and nobody would be the wiser
It wasn't that bad
>>83144454
You could sneak it into pretty much any pre-rebirth Hal Jordan story too.
>>83144515
did he ever show up in anything except futures end
>>83144391
Its from Justice League #1. There was no build up at all.
New 52 is what got me into comics do it will always have a sweet spot in my heart
>>83144391
Bruce is just trying to get him to work with the rest of them. He pulls the 'we're both just normal dudes' card and takes his mask off
He gives his backstory and then jumps onto a parademon or something
>>83144391
It's from the first Justice League storyline in the New 52. Hal and Bruce had been bagging on each other the entire time, and Bruce finally revealed his identity as a way to show that he and Hal were more alike than he thought and needed to stick together.
Only Hal wasn't keeping up on current events so he legitimately had no idea who Bruce Wayne was. There's another page later where Clark points out Bruce is a billionaire and Hal is even more confused.
>>83144391
JL, some of early issues. Like, Hal doesn't trust anyone and wants to beat Darkseid all alone, Batman starts talking with Hal and all of sudden his pulls his mask off.
>>83144538
He's in one page of rebirth but in his old duds I think.
>>83142851
It was a clusterfuck but it was fun and necessary.
Tomasi's work on GLC was great.
>>83144054
>new writer comes in
>kills off the entire cast
I wonder if that pissed off Marz.
>>83144548
First arc, yes, but it was like issue five or six.
>>83144618
Pre New 52 it was nice but his New52 run sucked.
>>83142604
On this thread of thought, fuck whoever fucked up static and blue beetle and Mr terrific. This was a chance to get some good minority heroes and everybody fucked up tremendously
Also earth two was great for all of a year
>>83143472
Klarion was great.
>>83144268
My biggest disappointment with this run it that it was more about the supporting cast than Wonder Woman herself.
>>83144733
blue beetle was so fucking bad the new run solicit basically says it never happened
>>83142604
>New 52 Batsuit behaving like fabric
Triggered
>>83144642
I doubt he cares. He knows the game of writing for Big Two.
>>83144782
The supporting cast acted like one to construct Wonder Woman
That's why you don't have endless internal monologues
Wish this had gone somewhere
>>83143472
>>83144765
I didn't even know Klarion had a book in the New 52 til now. I would've grabbed that shit so hard, I love that little asshole.
>>83144733
I kinda stopped following Earth 2 pretty early on and I'm increasingly glad I did because it feels like the book and the entire fucking world just became a massive shit hole in the worst way pretty fast.
>>83143750
We're talking about a comic books. Comics books have art. That's just traced shit with words slapped on top.
>>83144895
They keep having ample chances to reboot/clean up Gemworld, yet they keep passing over it.
>>83143913
This and issue #13 of Sandman are two of my favorite single issues. I know sandman is irrelevant to this thread, but I thought it was a weird coincidence they're both #13s.
>>83144765
so great it didn't even get a trade
Was enjoying Aquaman quite a bit until the Justice League crossover shat everything up.
The new Black Manta/Aquaman relationship was pretty great what with them murdering each other's dads.
>>83144959
The hypercrisis is real and all that jazz.
>>83144895
Add this to my list mentioned in >>83144733
But noooo we have to have thirteen bat family books and Batman earth one as well
>>83144970
Because sales=quality. And fuck you it bothers me that it's one of the very few recent stuff without a trade.
Phantom Lady and Doll Man could've been a cute couple comic
>>83144999
>13*4=52
>>83145016
It never went anywhere
>>83142812
Grayson
Red Lanterns
Azz's Wonder Woman
Batman Inc
I Vampire
>>83144733
I remember the Static Shock creative team hating each other; certainly did the comic no favors.
>>83144895
I need to find me a copy of the old gemworld stuff
>>83145088
Has any of it been collected besides as a Showcase title?
>>83142782
Zero Year was good
Slutfire was fun
>>83142707
It was better then it's counter series, the movement.
>>83145001
That was a big problem they wanted to have exactly 52 launch titles but weren't willing to cut back on the number of bat books to do it.
I like bats but in this case he got in the way
>>83145151
Better than Dumbfire at least.
>>83142851
What happened to little ol Superboy in the end?
>>83145173
Are you retarded or just pretending?
>>83145036
>there are 2 more #13s waiting to be added to my favorites list
I must find them.
At least they triedand crashed and burned [\spoiler]
>>83145151
>>83145181
Not, she wasn't She was a terrible character and made no fucking sense whatsoever.
You guys have terrible taste.
>>83144919
screw you. this was a fucking masterpiece in terms of art, compared to all the previous teams
>>83145244
The titans curse happened.
I wish they would do more cosmic stuff like this, of course they had to shove in a GL but he was cool.
>>83145275
I don't see how the other artists have any influence whatsoever on the book. Traced shit is traced shit. Being a Green Arrow fag must be tough - you are so thirsty for good content that you hang onto crap like Sorrentino.
>>83142782
>>83142812
Also Demon Knights, Amethyst, Martian Manhunter andCurse of Shazam
>>83145151
Post the full image
>>83145181
Is Dumbfire the Starfire we have now?
>>83145296
So he is dead now?
>>83144733
That shitty Static comic lost them the rights to all the Milestone characters.
>>83145402
http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictures/user/morganagod/116450/Starfire-is-awesome
Enjoy
>>83145043
>>83145389
All of these plus Midnighter and Omega Men.
>>83145389
Demon Knights and Amethyst fucking sucked donkey's balls.
>>83145151
No it was retarded they changed her character for no good reason at all.
>>83145406
I think he popped up in some later Supergirl issues, but basically yeah.
>>83145406
It's funny how her solo was supposed to fix the character, yet she acted like a borderline retard most of the time, and spent every other issue in various states of undress. Not that I'm complaining, Luppachino's are was great. But it is perplexing.
It'll be interesting to see how the new Titans book handles her.
>>83144268
i STILL think the pants would have been great.
>>83145297
I do wish we could have more non gl cosmic
>>83145472
>Midnighter
Hey now I remember Stormwatch, what a clusterfuck that was.
i also would have kept buying this if it was a deadman ongoing
>>83145557
Yeah...lets just sweep that under the rug.
>>83145274
what did you expect from lobdell?
the only reason he has a job at DC is because of Harras. the day Ji Lee retires or steps down, you can bet that they are going to get axed
>>83145053
The Creative team had more of a "i'm writing this"
>welp i'm the artist and i think it should be shittier!
>all editors agree?
>YEH!
>>83145529
I should check out some Starfire stuff see her evolve from whatever she used to be to that red hood shit to whatever she is now.
>>83145406
I like dumb fire, she has this charming naivete.
>>83145529
The biggest crime of her solo series was giving her pupils, say what you will about Lobdell writing Starfire but at least that Starfire didn't have pupils.
>>83145598
>>83145557
Remember that defunct planned crossover they were building up to with the Daemonites and Helspont. Shit like Stormwatch (but also Demon Knights and Voodoo and Grift) were part of the plan until it all went bust (who'd have thought letting Liefeld write would be a good idea).
I suspect it correlates largely with Harras/Lee losing control pre-Trinity of Sin and Pandora being the actual Pandora.
>>83145474
You suck donkey balls
>>83145598
What happened to that anyway, I stopped reading somewhere after they remade the team and Lobo joined. Which was right before the old Midnighter and Apollo showed up
>>83145693
Yes I remember, a shame it never happened. Hell I remember that Marthin Manhunter was part of Stormwatch and joined the justice league to test them for shit. Then that got forgotten
>>83145693
It's been a while since I read it, but weren't the Demon Knights like a proto-stormwatch?
>>83145794
Yea.
Frankenstein and OMAC were pretty fucking awesome.
>>83145838
Too bad the main Stormwatch was garbage. Could've made for an interesting mini-event.
>>83145756
Is that why he attacked the League in that one issue?
>>83145977
It's weird to think that the state of early nu52 was actually trying to stay away from Trinity centric events.
>>83145945
I'd never read anything with Frankenstein in it before the new 52, and I loved him. Him, Amethyst, Ray, Engie, and Hawkman Stormwatch were without a doubt the best part of Futures End. Anyone have any recommendations for Frankie other than new 52?
>>83145977
>Is that why he attacked the League in that one issue?
Yes
>>83146062
Seven Soldiers. Nu52 Frankie kinda pales in comparison to that.
>>83146036
It was more like because the main engine for the early Nu52 was Lee, Harras and their 90s Marvel faction within DC so they did their best to promote the Wildstorm aspects at the expense of everything else. Except they vastly overestimated the popularity of Wildstorm and most of their shit bombed.
>>83146095
Seven Soliders, was that the miniseries with Deathstroke, Amanda Waller and Black Canary while they were operating for the US government?
Oh yes what the fuck happened to Birds of Prey? It had a great start and then it went shit, a huge shit.
>>83146036
I feel like early on they were trying really hard to flesh out some of the lesser known characters to give the universe some depth, but then no one bought any of those books so they said fuck it and started going back to the trinity. Its a damn shame.
Genuinely loved this. Not thrilled about their return in Green Lanterns.
>>83146167
>was that the miniseries with Deathstroke, Amanda Waller and Black Canary while they were operating for the US government?
No.
And early Birds of Prey was fantastic. Shame editorial shat all over it.
>>83146225
yo is that rebis from doom patrol
>>83146175
>>83146126
Regardless of the end result, I'm still glad that they tried. Focusing on lesser characters in the big two universes tends to be fun. It's part of why 52 is still celebrated.
>>83146318
And the entire reason I loved a lot of the DC You book even if they flopped.
>>83146284
No.
>>83146318
It also gave us some runs that were better then the trinity and other core books. I loved every issue of Phantom Stranger and while I stopped following all Star Western after a while I heard not but good things from it.
>>83146225
This needs a reprint.
>>83146167
>Oh yes what the fuck happened to Birds of Prey? It had a great start and then it went shit, a huge shit.
basically Harras's people took control of the book and shat all over it and then gave it to one of didio's friends to curry favor only to get it cancelled.
>>83146363
All-Star Western was fucking fantastic, and with all his faults ill love Didio for keeping it alive for so long. I highly recommend you finish it anon. I have to read Phantom Stranger. I don't think I've heard a single negative thing about it on here.
>>83146363
>>83146355
Definitely. It's why I'm more interested in the HB, and Young Animal stuff coming. Even mainline has some stuff like Blue Beetle and New Super-Man that I'm looking forward to more.
>>83145945
Frankenstein started great but it started to drift away from the monster killing adventures it started as.
>>83146489
I seriously can't wait for the new blue beetle book.
>>83142980
Wait, what panels are those?
>>83142851
What is this from?
>>83146539
This. I need it for science stuff
>>83146539
http://www.geeksofdoom.com/2014/02/26/abandoned-catwoman-plot-artwork-strolling-naked-wayne-manor
>>83146536
From everything that's been said, it looks like it's gonna be what nu52 Blue Beetle SHOULD have been from the start.
>>83146633
they just retconned the reach orgin. so it's mostly going to be more grounded in magic/paranormal instead now (i suspect to crossover with a dr. fate ongoing by Levitz).
phantom stranger was the GOAT
super underratedand i liked the end of johns run on GL
>>83145945
Frankenstein was awful.
Go read Seven Soldiers of Victory, by Morrison. They butchered Frankenstein's character.
>>83146679
Did they? I recall the solicits teasing "maaaaaybe the scarab is mystical", but the 05 series did something similar. I forgot though how much the previous book flubbed the Reach big time.
>>83146780
This man speaks the truth.
>>83146596
waat I thought she was a giantess for a sec there
>>83147152
Nah, that'd make ittoo hot
>>83144054
God damn that artist made me the hardest metaldiamonds
>>83145406
I like that book though
>>83148367
Because of interesting stories and characterization or because you fap to her?
>>83148415
Part because it's a cute book and part because all the girls are top tier waifu material
>>83142604
There's literally nothing wrong with this.
>>83145474
>Demon Knights [...] fucking sucked donkey's balls.
induhpendant wuman hurley quinz
>>83146816
Are you talking about Lemire's? I enjoyed it a lot more under Kindt.
>>83145474
I really wanted to like Demon Knights but it couldn't decide if it wanted to be goofy fun or overly gory melodrama. The tone whipped from DnD to Game of Thrones on a fucking dime and I couldn't enjoy it. When they put the head of the little girl they had befriend the Knights all issue on a pike, I checked out completely.
>>83149931
Not a fan of MASH I see.
>>83150341
I'm pretty sure MASH didn't show people who had their intestine's blown open on screen.
>>83150506
The movie had bloody surgeries.
Latest version I have.
>>83151070
justice league 3001 was not good
neither was secret six honestly even though I love the pre flashpoint stuff, what happened to simone after that
>>83151050
Were you TALKING about the movie, or were you talking about the TV show?
>>83144515
Underrated. The writing's okay, but the art is god-tier and they don't just make him Dr. Manhattan like everyone assumes.
Yeah Cap's power level gets REALLY elevated, but Nate is still a soldier and comes at the powers from an everyman angle, whereas Manhattan was a scientist and deals with his powers and relates to people with them as a scientist.
Has anything been mentioned about Rebirth JLA yet? I want to believe it'll be a dumping ground for the characters I loved but can't sustain an ongoing.
>>83142604
I thought it was so stupid that they did this on their first time meeting each other. You'd think both would care a little more about their safety/identity. And the whole thing with Catwoman is that she is seductive and a tease, and having them have sex right of the bat does away with that. Let unresolved sexual tension be unresolved for at least enough time for the new readers to actually want to see them bone.
Almost all the new Batman comics had pointless and unnecessary sex scenes. Nightwing hooking up with the "totally not a villain" girl on a plane, Red Hood and Roy banging Starfire, Bruce dating the daughter of an old friend, the playboy bunny villain. And they were all number 1 issues to introduce new readers. I'm all for sex scenes but all of these were pretty tasteless
Rayner and the new guardians. Started slow but got good when he finally went white. He seems to have been given the wally west treatment. Just poof gone.
>>83151865
That book went downhill fast when they started shipping Kyle and Carol.
>>83151695
>Red Hood and Roy banging Starfire
It's amazing how badly they fucked up the "sexed-up outsider" aspect of her character. The latest Starfire run did a much better job with her.
>>83151695
>>83152704
Jason and Kori never fucked
>>83153550
I thought he said in the very first issue "I'm not 'with her,' If that's what you mean, but yeah, I've BEEN with her."
Either way my point still stands. It's a shame Starfire's run has ended, I doubt they'll do anything interesting with her once she's moved to a team book.
>>83153681
Retconned after backlash or whatever.
>>83151695
It wasn't their first time meeting though. She literally said they had fucked multiple times before. But you're right in the sense that it came out of fucking nowhere, and Winick didn't explore their relationship at all.
>>83142654
Seconded
>>83146816
Nowhere near as bad as Morrison completely butchered Eiling in JLA, really lowered my opinion of Morrison.
>>83151211
> what happened to simone after that
Burnt out by DC. Forced to write Firestorm and Batgirl two books which she had very little creative freedom (compared to post-crisis secret 6) since one she had a co-writer and the other she was forced to write by Bateditorial's shitty House style imitating Snyder and doing his crossovers.
Jesus, in hindsight, barring a few exceptions, the New 52 was a disaster.
