So what's in the secret room guys? Is it a homo room? I'm betting it's a homo room. All homophoges are secretly faggots, you know.
>>83118866
I want toplay withblue loli Joyce.
>>83118866
Man, if I didn't have such a low opinion of Becky this might actually make me feel something.
Becky Mom
Is than an imaginary trashcan in the 4th panel?
>>83120362
Laundry basket
>>83118866
I am going to be visibly disgruntled if they open the closest and find some gay porno mags or something to that effect. I wouldnt put it past Willis to change Toedads rampage from a misguided act of love and desperation to a M-MUH GAYS thing.
>>83118866
dyke in an empty house - is this Gone Home?
>>83120100
A cute!!!
>>83120994
Oh me neither.
>they enter the secret room
>empty but for a refridgerator box in the middle of the floor
>inside is a mummified body
>it's Becky
>comic becomes a psychedelic horror mystery with a distinct David Lynch-ian vibe
>>83118866
Wow, that last panel was almost emotional. To bad the last two interactions Becky had with her Dad was her flipping him off while he was in the hospital and texting him photos of her kissing her gf to taunt him before getting on a soapbox about the fact the head of a fast food chain had a different opinion then her. I want to try to writers credit and the benefit of the doubt, but Becky is written with this "i don't take anything seriously which makes me funny" attitude that it makes these moments seem worthless. I'm also fairly certain that if Becky's mom was still alive in the comics she would be a villain.
>>83124996
Gone Home was all about how the dyke had left the house
>>83124996
>DoA will become a genre unto itself
>by doing the exact same thing everyone else in its wheelhouse has done, but with '90s nostalgia glued on
>>83118866
Is this an Allegro non Troppo reference?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn8NHgfMLS4
>>83127112
There is no fucking way willis would ever get that artsy.
>>83118866
>it's a homo room
What else could it be? At this point literally everyone in DoA is LGBT.And the B is just a phase.
>>83128477
Nah it's gonna be a nazi memorabilia room.
You guys are giving Willis too much credit. Toedad being gay gives him depth.
>>83118866
>That alt text
No, please tell me David Willis hasn't seen Book of Mormon, Fuck he's ruined it for me.
>>83120100
I KILLED FIDDY MEN
Willis Trigger warninged his trigger warning, holy shit.
[TRIGGERING INTENSIFIES]
>>83126935
God Becky is such a huge bitch.
>>83129662
Good God
>>83129662
Sad lesbian is sad.
>>83129662
>an answer you wanted in a way you didn't want it, as per usual
And now, I OP, still don't have my disappointing answer, but I wouldn't be surprised if that chekov's gun never fires now. I guess dead parents are okay for nuance. Cause they are dead so Willis has to worry about them watching him jerk off.
>>83129600
He didn't understand it even if he liked it, it's okay brah.
>>83129662
Oh no it's Loss all over again
>>83129662
Oh my god
>>83129771
Oh no, I meant on the previous page.
>Now here's the part of our story, that gets a little bit sad.
I mean, it might be a coincidence, but its the same thing word for word so I don't know.
>>83129662
Dammit I wanted the Nazi room!
>>83129662
>knowing your audience too well
>>83129662
>>83129853
Yeah, I know. And there's no way he understood it even if he liked it. All he would have taken away from that show is "God sucks". So you can still like it and not question your judgement that Willis liked it too.
>>83129662
How the fuck does he expect people to be so fucking soft that they can't even see the word suicide?
I hate him, I really do
>>83129662
God I'm so fucking mad right now, he can never do a serious moment.
That's it, I'm coming out of hiatus with new comics tomorrow.
>>83129662
so THIS is what rock bottom looks like for this strip.
>>83129948
He can't risk triggering the masses.
>>83129966
Well fuck now I like this strip, if only for the return of the dewd.
>>83129948
the worst thing is he's probably right about most of his audience
>>83129662
I would try to kill myself if Becky was my kid. Totes for real guys, I'm serious.
>>83129662
Reminds me of my own mum's death. But the giant in your face trigger warning is just insulting.
>>83129662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gO7uemm6Yo
>>83129662
Fucking hell, this "artist". I can only imagine what a book by him would be like.
>Chapter 65: WARNING, A MAJOR CHARACTER IS BEHEADED IN THIS CHAPTER, IF YOU ARE DISTURBED BY DEATH, BLOOD, AND LIFE IN GENERAL THAN SKIP THIS CHAPTER
>>83130029
No man you cant handle the word suicide. WE NEED TO PROTECT YOU FROM THE WORD SUICIDE
>>83130042
Oh wow, it gets even better in his description text;
>National Suicide Prevention Lifeline (United States)
1 (800) 273-8255
>Text worldwide: http://www.crisistextline.org/textline/
This
Fucking
Guy.
>>83129662
>Attempted Suicide.
Spoilers.
Hold on, I'm venturing into the comments section...
...
Some guy wanted to know if it was Joyce or Becky who attempted suicide.
Idiots, all of them.
>>83130057
He put a trigger warning on the trigger warning. It's moments like these I can understand why some people choose not to live in this world any more.
>>83130108
Jesus Christ, it's like a fucking PSA.
And I thought Hacques was the oaf.
>>83130108
He's worried his strip is so awful it will drive people to kill themselves.
>>83130186
Also, apparently Cerberus tried to off themselves recently.
I feel like it'd be rude to say "bummer", so I won't.
>>83130140
Yeah, it kinda affected the punch at the end.
>>83130255
You should write better luck next time
>>83129662
TRIGGER WARNING: TRIGGER WARNINGS
>>83130186
Did that person say they skipped reading the strip after the warning?
>>83129662
YO DAWG I HEARD YOU LIKE TRIGGER WARNINGS
>>83126906
>The comic suddenly turns into a recreation of Rubyquest
>>83129662
This is it. This is the culmination of all the trigger warning bullshit applied to a narrative by the author himself. This is the vindication of every criticism of the concept.
Any sense of tension or surprise or even meager pathos is robbed by this treacly bullshit. It brings any narrative momentum to a grinding halt to yank the reader out of the story for utter nonsense. And for what purpose, personal good boy points?
Why even make this storyline or comic if you can't trust your readers to handle it? What human beings are so fragile, so mentally precarious that the mere notion of a fictional character committing suicide throws them off the age? Anybody in that sort of mental state is long gone well before they read a hack's meandering slice of life webcomic strip.
If you're making a strip for preschoolers, then it seems like you shouldn't be touching the subject in the first place.
>>83130186
Wait, so is the word "suicide" allowed in the comments? Then what's the point of hiding it in the comic?
>>83130255
Oh, there's one guy calling him out on being such a bitch about this.
Let's see how long it takes for Willy to take it down and bitch about it on Twitter.
>>83130007
Based on the amount of comments sucking his dick about it, yeah. Yeah he nailed it.
For all the shit Questionable Content gets, they at least had Faye's dad blow his brains out in front of her without any of this warning shit.
This is some outline of somebody taking pills. I've given this strip a lot of leeway, but this trigger warning is completely ridiculous and unnecessary.
The picture of the kitten also ruins whatever seriousness the moment may have had, so Willis fails on both accounts.
>>83129662
I don't always come into these threads or generally follow this comic, but I'm glad I was here for this. This one is so bad, it's something special.
To be fair to Willy, 90% of Tumblr has tried to off themselves for attention and otherwise, and they make up like 99% of his audience.
So he doesn't want to lose all those precious tree fiddies.
https://twitter.com/damnyouwillis/status/735327538512297985
Wow he's reading the thread.
>>83130464
QC did that years ago though, wayy before the stabbening part 2 and I think maybe even before the term "trigger warning" had taken such a hold on the internet. Current QC wouldn't have those kinds of balls.
>>83130554
Remember when he bitched about when we made edits of Becky visiting her dad in the hospital, and called them cliche?
>>83130554
Guys
Guys I have an idea
What if
What if we standardized trigger warnings?
>>83130554
>https://twitter.com/damnyouwillis/status/735327538512297985
No he's reading his own comments section. Willis would never come here.
>>83130699
This...really makes me want to make horrifying,gory and heighnous things happen in a comic with absolutely no warning at all just to offset it.
>>83130359
he didnt hide it, its in a darker text so you dont have to be spoiled unless you want to
>>83130699
Sounds fine to me. The problem isn't the trigger warnings per se, but the overbearing nature of these that completely sucked all the fucking emotion out of what is supposed to be a sad moment, followed by a random picture of a fucking kitten.
If there were a standardized system, where we could just not see any trigger warnings if we didn't want to, and people who wanted to see them would get them, then that's fine.
I mean, I don't give a shit about trigger warnings, but I'll just let other people do whatever they want, even though it's dumb as hell.
>>83130057
How the fuck can awareness be raised on this issue if people can't even feel comfortable enough to read the word, let alone write it without excusing themselves first?
There's actually more people calling him out on the warning than I thought there would be.
It'd be fun if Willy gradually pissed off his fanbase one segment at a time, causing them to comment something negative and him to ban them, pruning away his sycophantic readers until only a handful are left.
>>83130699
>mfw my film classes have to give trigger warnings before showing movies to analyze in class now
the normalization is already happening
>>83130355
It's sad because the punch could actually give more humanity to Becky that all the psycho-religious gay-hating dads chasing daughters with guns could ever bring to her.
Like, heavy subjects like that makes for good storytelling because walking in on a mother attempting suicide is actually somewhat believable and even relatable. You feel for the character. Even the people on here, who hate Becky, could still feel for her in this situation.
And the supposedly necessity of the trigger warning at least proves that it's a subject that Willis wants to add but also does not want to hurt people. He wants to use this storytelling device in order to further Becky's development, and he knows that people would react to it and feel for the character. I understand that.
To not only rob the people of the punch and drama of the situation, but end it on the fucking kitten is just ridiculous. Willis does not care about the integrity of his own comic and would rather please the people in the short term than try to amass a decent comic in the long term. That's a horrible way to do this.
I understand his desire to not want to cause undue harm to people who may react negatively to being shown suicide, but he's not a fucking counselor. He's a comic writer.
>>83130872
Movies have had content warnings forever, but somehow the word trigger warnings are so much more odious.
>>83130792
He made it harder to see so you could pass over it, is what I mean. Like, you know it's there but he threw a sheet over it so you don't have to look at it.
there wasnt a warning on joyces god damn assault but there is on an outline of a flashback of a suicide? dont really get what hes going for here
>>83130763
It makes me want to read those comics.
>>83130923
yeah... so you dont have to get spoiled. not because people cant handle the word suicide.
>>83130355
In these cyber-times of 2016, it turns out the most Problematic thing is existing. Each day a person can experience something they didn't the day before.
>>83130868
That's what happened to Jeph Jacques, and it drove him crazy.
He can't even function as a human anymore.
I'm curious as to the end of Willis, though.
He's obviously deluded and developmentally stunted to an extreme level already.
I bet he'll go down caterwauling to the last man.
>It's your fault, YOURS
>My behaviour has NO consequences
>>83130921
I mean more of the professor explaining what going to happen before the movie begins and pausing it before the "triggering" event happens to allow people to leave the room.
>>83130947
Hot damn, you're right. I guess maybe because the assault didn't go all the way? Sexual assault and rape are the few things that I can maybe see trigger warnings being sometimes applicable. That and PTSD from war, like those WWII vets who watched Saving Private Ryan and got seriously messed up by the opening scene.
>>83131086
Did anyone leave the room?
>>83130837
I don't like the idea of coddling people to the point of emotional stunting, but if people need it in order to function (and are still getting help while doing it), then I'm fine with the idea of a trigger warning for those who want it.
I'm sure having a standardized site that warns people ahead of time what they can expect of certain pieces of media would be fine, too.
Hell, what they should do is make an app that lets you define what you want to see and don't want to see, and sites that care about that stuff can pick what they feel is an appropriate warning. They can even integrate it into stuff so the artist can warn people in specific posts if they don't want to ruin the entire experience. And they can do custom lists so that people can see the warnings even if the artist doesn't put in the effort.
An app like that could get incredibly popular with shit like Tumblr around. It's their job to tailor their viewing experience to their own tastes, not the creator.
>>83131163
I think if you're affected that badly by these things then you need therapy, not warnings. You can't be in a healthy mental state if you're rendered unable to function by fiction.
>>83130947
Or how about Toedad bringing a gun to school. I'm sure there's people who went through shit like that.
>>83131215
do you think therapy is like, immediately effective or something? or that people should just not consume fiction until theyre "healthy" again
>>83131148
Not once. Still ruined a lot of scenes when he would pause the film right before a woman would wall into a room and say
>the husband is about to jump out and commit a violent act, if you can't handle that wait outside for a minute.
>>83131271
youre in class though. youre watching the movie to analyze it, not to be entertained.
>>83129662
So what exactly caused Becky's mum to become a heroine? Was it realizing she wasn't Christian enough to endure being a Christian Wife? Did she decide being a Martyr was easier than being a Has-Been?
>>83131313
satan
>>83131261
That sounds like a good idea, yeah.
>>83131310
You can't analyze a scene if it's interrupted in the middle.
>>83131347
why not
>>83131310
You shouldn't take a film class if you are going to be to "triggered" by serious films to be able to sit through them.
why didn't he put a giant warning on this
>>83131368
Because it interrupts the pacing, you oaf.
If you're going to do your retarded TW spiel, do it at the beginning of the film.
If someone's too speshul to watch any of the movies, just pass them.
Why not?
>>83131428
He joked about it. Said he didn't give it the "Gravity" it deserved.
Which is odd, you'd think he'd find glee in offing parents.
>>83131428
Must not have been the trendy thing to do at the time.
>>83130947
Joyce's attempted rape may have been before tigger warnings became trrendy.
>>83130988
>Watch where you "are"!
>Every second is a trauma!
>>83131373
It goes for life in general.
If you are going to be pushed over the edge into some kind of fit by merely being exposed to a word, it is your job to remove yourself from any human contact until such a time you can handle living in the real world.
>>83131527
Every word could be triggering, like "beige" and "Wyoming"
>>83129662
That kitten's probably dead now. That's kind of depressing.
>>83131589
What about "wambo"?
>>83131610
>Thanks, willis
>>83131583
how exactly do you expect anyone to recover or be even remotely healthy after removing themself from all human contact
Why doesn't he just add like a content warning splash page to the site. Putting a gigantic thing onto specific pages, and when he's already had potentially triggering subjects like attempted rape in the comic, is just bad design.
>>83131313
found out her daughter was a lesbian.
>>83131673
>TRIGGER WARNING
>WHAT YOU READ MIGHT TRIGGER YOUWe don't
>>83131676
His readers want to know which specific pages to skip. If he put a warning on the whole thing, too many people might just stop reading entirely. This way his followers continue to pay him.
As for him not doing it in the past, they probably don't care because to most of them it's old news.
>>83131673
You get healthy by learning how to overcome your traumas, not demanding that people walk on eggshells around you.
If you're going to be out in the world, you have to accept that you're possibly going to be assailed by ideas you don't like or ones that upset you.
That's exactly what life is in a free world.
We don't break people on the wheel for hurt words.
>>83131771
im not disputing that, just the stupid thing that anon said
>>83131797
Well, that's the only option.
Either you nut up and try to get better or you cut yourself off from people, because no matter how much you try, you're never not going to be triggered by something
>>83131583
Or instead of locking yourself in a box hoping your social anxieties will eventually go away. You ease yourself back into normal life by asking your friends to avoid touchy subjects. Expecting the entire world to stop for your specific issues is retarded though.
>>83131215
That's why I specified that they should be getting proper help.
It's not like people are asking for trigger warnings because it mildly annoys them. Well, most of them.
Some people have legitimate problems seeing stuff like that in media, in varying degrees, and therapy is not some sort of overnight process. You can't ask someone to completely shut themselves out until they're happy again.
That's what trigger warnings are supposed to do, really. They're supposed to make the people who feel like they need to shut themselves in - because the world was cruel or whatever - and let them still breathe in normalcy.
People react to things differently, and it's hard to deal with that nowadays because the world literally breathes content now. You can look at how the world is doing through the phone. Hell, some people can see tragic news on their fucking electronic mirror getting ready for work now.
It's constant bombardment. Naturally people want to be able to control the content they see. It's why you can see sites with similar ideas, like 4chan and Reddit for example, and see the popularity shift. They're both popular because you have a large amount of content to go through, but Reddit is more popular because the community controls what gets to be seen first and is thus easier to deal with. It's why content aggregation got so big for a while and is still big. It's why Tumblr got so big, because it took the idea of the blog but made it so you can tailor what you see and apps to let you decide what you DON'T want to see. It's why reaction videos are so popular on Youtube, because they detail how one person is reacting, and thus is a good stepping stool to how you as the viewer should react.
It's all just another coping mechanism, and the problem is that people are forcing artists to do it instead of dealing with it on their own time. Willis isn't a fucking counselor.
>>83129662
>Mary blatantly misgenders Carla in front of her, which allegedly can trigger transgenders into stress and depression fits
>no warning
>some backstory detail of an unseen character is implied to have killed themself
>WARNING GUYS SUPER UNCOMFY STUFF
I mean yes, suicide is more common than trans issues, but really mate, if you're gonna make such an in-universe big deal about it you should treat it as one OOC too.
>>83131771
Sameface is real
>>83131931
>You ease yourself back into normal life by asking your friends
>by asking your friends
>your friends
>friends
Right... my friends...
>>83131934
>the problem is that people are forcing artists to do it instead of dealing with it on their own time. Willis isn't a fucking counselor
i dont think anyone actually asked him to do this
>>83129948
Welcome to CURRENT YEAR, bro.
People really are that thin-skinned nowadays.
>>83131931
You're not going to have many friends if you have to actually tell them what they can talk about.
If you have a legitimate trauma, most people will avoid it naturally.
And what's a touch subject? A word in a totally alien context?
>>83132117
>You're not going to have many friends if you have to actually tell them what they can talk about.
>If you have a legitimate trauma, most people will avoid it naturally.
these two things contradict
>>83132087
It's nice to know that I'll be able to overthrow the Hugbox Government by calling them all faggots
Where will you go when no space is safe?
>>83132049
No one adds a trigger warning unless they felt like they had to.
Regardless, I meant that more as like an in-general thing. There are people who feel like art should be adapted to their tastes instead of living on their own terms and I cannot accept that.
No one should be going to Willis for life advice, though. That's also important.
>>83132153
No they don't, you imbecile.
One of them comes from natural human sympathy, and the other comes from someone actively requesting avoidance.
>>83127089
And also had a secret room, for reasons.
And Life is Strange is how a Dyke escaped death and time nuked a town.
>>83132166
>Where will you go when no space is safe?
You mean, where will I go when every space is safe, right?
>>83132206
if you have a legitimate trauma most people wont actually know unless you tell them
"natural human sympathy" doesnt mean they can read your mind or something
>>83132206
if they don't know you have trauma, they won't know to avoid the issue
>>83129662
Don't lie to me and say cats don't die. Cats die like anything else! AND IT SUCKS! YOU FUCK
>>83131313
No fucking clue and about we'll get answers. For right now all we're seeing is
>Happy Moments
>Happy Moments
>Hero Moment
Bet it was the lesbianism. And its right after she came out. Which caused Becky to regress to the mind of a child.
>>83132247
Being put in a room that was clearly designed for special needs children would just me feel worse about my issues, would rather just relax in my own room if I'm getting stressed about something.
>>83132247
Is it wrong that I kind of want to visit the "safe space" just because? I don't want to escape anybody else's opinions but it sounds like it has a lot of fun things in it.
>>83131428
because this was before the gravy train that is hypersensitive rich millenials.
>>83132247
>doesn't know what a debate is, and thinks the ideas she doesn't like will go un-argued against unless she organizes a counter lecture at the same time
>expects the campus to be turned into such a warzone of ideas that people that don't want to be involved with the subject at all will have to lock themselves in a special bunker instead of just avoiding the two lecture halls
Bryon must be stopped
>>83131428
Because it was early 2000s and no one gave a shit about triggers.
>So yeah, here I am on September 6, 2001, throwing corpses on people from great heights.
Pfffffff
>>83132368
Ironically, Becky's acting more childish than Dina.
>>83132786
Ironically, this is more effective then anything we've seen in DOA.
>>83132870
>>83132927
I don't think you get how irony works.
Here's the pareton drop. Ya'll can complain now.
>>83132954
it's like rain on your wedding day
>>83133034
I don't even know where to begin.
Oh look, Willis revealed that Becky's mom tried to off herself....
Is Willis trying his damn hardest to make Becky more sympathetic than Joyce at this point? It seems like everything happening in this universe is like "Nah, Joyce ya' need stop bongoing about that attempted rape, Becky just found two-hundred dollars and she can only get so many haircuts."
>>83133034
I will restate what I said earlier.
This "i don't take anything seriously which makes me funny" attitude that it makes these moments seem worthless.
>>83133034
>>83133053
Amber's not the only one who specializes in compartmentalize her inner anguish and rage for later use, apparently.
>>83131504
>>83132560
>>83132681
Except look at the date. This is the repost from right now.
Walky manslaughtering Tony's dad with Beef's dead ass parents deserve no trigger warning according to Dave Wills, May 2016.
>>83133094
shes pretty clearly taking it seriously for the first two panels though.
how many times does he have to drill "shes faking the cheerful shit" before most of you get it
>>83133094
I'm also finding it hard to believe that she never told Joyce about that, considering how best friends they apparently are.
>>83133124
But anon, that would require him to open up MS Paint and make another big black block, fill that with text about warning people, and then find another kitten. Willis has kids now, it's not like he has the time to just post all these strips that are over a decade old.
>>83133147
what, really? shes been not telling joyce stuff the whole time shes been in the comic. she lied about being "visiting" when she got kicked out of her school.
>>83133128
Show that in the art work at least.
Flatten the eyebrows when she smiles to give off some form of concern, make the smile anything less then the biggest fuck smile you could possibly make, even have her stutter just a little bit to show it resonating in someway when she talks to Joyce. The cut from super serious to upbeat jokester is just jarring with no in between.
>>83133200
Kicked out of school and suicidal mom are two different things.
>>83133269
Exactly, suicidal mom would be even more private, it's way harder to deal with
>>83133034
I, guess she's trying to mask her pain? I dunno I still can't bring myself to care about her.
>>83133280
What kind of pussy doesn't share their feelings with their best bud? That's what best buds are for. Someone you can share shit with that you couldn't tell mom or dad, that way you don't turn out to be an emotional wreck that can't even look at a kitchen counter without remembering your dead mom...and a jar of what I assume is peanut butter.
Why the fuck did she remember the peanut butter?
>>83133034
See. I UNDERSTAND that Becky does the "lol. so random" as a defense mechanism. I really do. But honestly that makes it even worse for me and I can't even put my finger on why. Probably because it excuses every action she makes by going "She doesn't mean it."
>>83133361
>Why the fuck did she remember the peanut butter?
It was some amazing peanut butter. They don't make that shit anymore, it's like the Surge of peanut butter.
>>83133510
Maybe it's the fact that so much of her baggage could be resolved if she was upfront and talked about it to her friends and loved ones.
...granted 90% of the issues in DoA could be solved with "Sit down with each other and talk, you asshats" but Willis can't pad out his comic and generate internet money that way.
>>83133530
You mean if Ecto-Coolers were Peanut Butter?
>>83131589
Yeah, I've seen a person claim they're trigged by the concept of breakfast because it reminded them of their rape. Which is fucking awful for them, but I don't think the entire world should have to tiptoe around showing pictures of breakfast food because it might trigger someone. Literally anything could be a trigger to someone.
In all honesty, I think it's fine to put a warning in front of a depiction of suicide. But not the ridiculous bubble-wrapped hand-holding way Willis did it here.
>>83133510
The problem, as >>83133231 touched on, is that Willis isn't a good enough artist and his style too simplistic to use facial cues for emotional shifts in a subtle way. He almost gets it with the first two panels, but the shift in expression in panel three is still jarring. The strip needs an additional transition panel or to downplay Becky's expression in panel 3.
Something that should be noted is that there is a jump cut between panel 3 and 4, as she changes rooms between panels. This should really be two strips.
>>83133626
Whatever discontinued foodstuff from your childhood that you're nostalgic for.
>>83133969
Yeah but Ecto-Coolers are literally the best.
>>83133993
They're re-releasing Ecto-Coolers on the 30th.
>>83134072
I'll fucking slap you if you're lying.
>>83133034
Where did the money come from?
>>83133510
It's because Willis is trying to make an excuse or an explanation far too late into Becky's development. All the way up to this point, she's essentially been Becky the Wacky Lesbian™ with minor moments of pathos and serenity. We've never actually had any implication or explanation about why we should care about Becky and her plights. We're essentially getting all this new information all at once, and because of that it pales in comparison to the rest of the comic.
To use another "Star Wars" example in the other DoA thread, it would be as if we began "Star Wars" in the second act, rescuing Leia and later destroying the Death Star, and it wasn't until "The Empire Strikes Back" that we got the first act with Luke on Tatooine before his training.
>>83133616
That's 90% of damn near every issue in modern storytelling. It seems like conflict nowadays is driven by people actively avoiding having a dialogue.
>>83134110
Merch tie-in for the Ghostbusters remake.
>>83134281
...I'm hesitant. On the one hand, actual Ecto-Coolers, on the other hand I don't want to endorse that shitty remake.
>>83134275
>far too late into Becky's development
this has been a thing for a long time actually. she blatantly said it out loud to dina and everything before they were even together
>>83126935
If this came back to bite Becky in the ass, I'd change my opinion about Willis immediately.
>>83129662
Trigger warning are such a buzzkill. They essentially spoil the story.
Also I thought Willis abhorred trigger warnings.
>>83134356
The problem is Willis' pace in publishing. How long ago was that strip? It's been more than half a year since the Toedad saga.
>>83130868
People called him out on the nazi joke too. But I think he deleted those comments.
>>83131616
You didn't even Spoiler it, you insensitive fuck!
>>83133034
I would appreciate the 'I'm so emotionally broken that I put on this shitty annoying jester facade to deal with things," if other characters reacted to it like they react to anyone being a dick in the strip. This one is a decent example, but it's been a long time coming.
Maybe the next strip is Joyce finally saying something like, "can you fucking take anything seriously, I feel like I'm constantly putting myself out there for you, but you don't seem to give a shit." Or even, Jocelyn, who has less reason to put up with her shit, reacting that way.
>>83129662
Also, I thought Becky's mom died of a terminal disease? Did she try to commit suicide, AND die later of a terminal disease? Did she try to self-euthanize because she couldn't deal with her prognosis and then succumb later? I feel like there's a much more interesting story to be told about this dead lady, but we'll never see it...
>>83134989
I thought she was supposed to be an alcoholic.
>>83133034
This is why her mother attempted suicide. She saw what Becky was going to become and didn't want to live to see it.
>>83131148
I'd leave the room because they spoiled the fucking film and and dramatic or shocking effect it might have with a trigger warning and potentially ruined the experience before it began.
>>83135357
youd just sit there and take it and you know it
>>83135534
Don't count on it. I'm going back to University as a mature student in September. Other younger students on my current course I've taken to get into uni already respect my stances and often follow my leadership on issues, I can't fucking wait to fuck up these faggots safe spaces from a position of age and authority.
>>83135698
>mature
doesnt sound like it
>>83129662
Ran to /co/ the second I read this strip and you guys didn't disappoint.
But for real.
FUCKING TRIGGER WARNING!
He closed the comments.
Hahahahahahahahahahah
>>83130868
>>83131023
Creators are slowly but surely facing the reality of what happens when you try to pander to these people:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5Cqp3pnE98
>>83136391
>so hey guess what, there are too many people being fucking assholes about and directly to the people who might have needed a little warning, and i can’t spend all fucking night removing said assholes AND take care of my kids WHO CHOSE TONIGHT TO STAY AWAKE FOREVER AND EVER, so they win and you lose, comments closed or maybe everybody wins, i dunno
What a coward.
>>83136391
And predictably he called everyone who called him out on the trigger warning "fucking assholes".
>>83136494
>>83136497
Holy shit this is actually the funniest thing.
First he ruins the strip with a fucking trigger warning. Second he gets so damn butt hurt. This is the best!
>>83134989
>Maybe the next strip is Joyce finally saying something like, "can you fucking take anything seriously, I feel like I'm constantly putting myself out there for you, but you don't seem to give a shit." Or even, Jocelyn, who has less reason to put up with her shit, reacting that way.
>How am I supposed to act? Tell me! I'm 18 years old, homeless, college drop out who only has a roof over her head because your university doesn't want bad press! Is there a handbook for appropriate behavior in this situation? I certainly don't have it! All I've got to my name is two hundred dollars I stole from my imprisoned dad and fucking granola bar!
>And I...I...I'm sorry. Christ, I'm so sorry Joyce. I just...you and your friends have been so great to me but they're still strangers and most days getting out of bed seems like the worst possible thing I could do. If they had to deal with the way I feel inside would they still want to help?
>I already ask so much and I don't want to be even more of a burden. And Dina...I don't think Dina would be capable of understanding; sometimes when I'm with her I think we're both pretending to be real people.
>I do care, I want you to know that I really do. I just pretend like I don't care because I wish I didn't. I wish everything could just slide off me but all I can do is fake it and maybe it'll be real someday. I wish, I wish that everything could be different, but they're not and here we are.
>I probably haven't said it enough, but thank you, Joyce. You're the best thing in my life, you always have been and I love you for it. I'm sorry for being the stupid girl who makes you take care of me and whose dad pointed a gun at your face and made things awkward with your parents and dragged you and your brother along to help her rob her house.
>Let's get out of here, we got what we came for and I owe you a plate of chicken fingers.
>>83133034
Joyce is getting real tired of her shit.
>>83120100
Lesbian action with her and Mrs Brown when?
>>83133682
I read that comic and I think it makes a good point about how triggers are not what tumblr thinks they are
>>83129662
Fucking coward.
>>83138807
What comic?
>>83139120
This comic
https://thenib.com/trigger-warning-breakfast-c6cdeec070e6#.eo1g59jcv
>>83139376
Hey, that's pretty good.
>>83139430
I thought so it's nice to see someone making the point that victims are still people and they aren't always going to conform to our idea of what they should be.
>>83136671
Bravo.
That sounded like it could be a great monologue in a play.
Too bad Willis would say that it's out of character. Maybe we could get the dewd to have a stab at drawing it.
>>83136671
>chicken fingers
>not the superior chicken fries
>>83133034
We need a cut-out of smug becky in panel 4.
>>83134275
I mean I think Willis has a lot of flaws as a storyteller, but he did actually plan this I'm pretty sure. He's doing a bad job of it though, since as stated above he's not drawing her as faking happy, he's drawing her happy.
>>83134350
It's ecto-cooler man. Actual Ecto-Cooler.
Shut the fuck up and order the 10 cases you want to. It won't trigger you.
>>83140104
I agree.
The ends justify the means, my man.
>>83140021
See now that's how you have a joke to break tradgedy.
>Let's get out of here, we got what we came for and I owe you a plate of chicken fingers.
>Chicken Fries. 200 dollars you can get me the good stuff.
>>83129662
See? Willis doesn't hate ALL parents! If he did, he'd have let her live to see the monster her daughter became.
>>83118866
It's funny, I actually had a nightmare about the strip where Joyce nearly got raped by that pastor's son.because something similar happened to meNo big trigger warning there.
>>83136494
Ah, the "I'm an ADULT and a FATHER now, I do Adult and Father Things now" card and "The critics are the Problem" card. A winning combo for an online personality.
>>83136494
This guy.
How much would it cost to hire someone to beat him up?
>>83140742
Retro-TWs when?
>>83141330
One look at his face and that someone will do it for free.
>>83141330
Don't post things like this. We aren't violent people.
>>83131610
Thats what i was thinking, he posts a picture of a cat god knows how old the picture is.
>>83131610
Good news! The cat isn't dead! It's just suffering horribly from a multitude of diseases!
>>83129662
>mfw
>>83130872
When I was 16, our science class was given the option of watching a scene from Trainspotting showing how drugs fuck you up. Our parents got a form asking if it was okay to show it, because hey, Trainspotting didn't pull any punches.
>>83133616
Willis' hateboner for therapists could blot out the entire solar system
>>83136494
You know, they say one of the major signs of sociopathy is never admitting that something's your fault...
>>83133034
>Do you know how many haircuts that is?
Wow, this validates everything I theorized about Willy.
>Make a stupid plotpoint
>People realize it's stupid
>Criticize/Critique
>Willy doubles down for the sole purpose of spiting them
>>83129662
This isn't real? He seriously doesn't think people are that weak willed? Like, does he really believe the word "suicide" will cause mass self-harm?
>>83144498
No, but it may upset people, which is just as bad as murder.
>>83143831
>16,
That's why. But once you become 18 and start touting yourself as an adult, then you shouldn't need trigger warnings.
>>83129662
Really? Really? Was the kitten really necessary, Willis? Are you twelve-years-old? The trigger warning was bad enough but you had to destroy any emotional impact with LE CUTE KITTIE? Goddamn.
>>83120100
obviously a closet-lesbian victim of the patriarchy
>>83136494
I wonder if there would be less shit if he didn't have a trigger warning at all.
>>83149082
Definitely.
>No one complaining about the trigger warning
>No one complaining about the people complaining about the trigger warning
>No one sucking Willis' dick for including a trigger warning.
It would have just been another forgetful strip.
>>83150889
But would there have been anyone complaining about the absence of a trigger warning? Or would there have been anybody triggered?
>>83151118
I mean, maybe someone would have been uncomfortable, and post a comment about how terrible and horrible that one panel made them feel, and everyone would tell them how strong they are, and give them *hugs* and Cerberus would reply with 8 fucking paragraphs.
But no, it wouldn't have been a big deal, I don't think. No one would have gone out for Willis' head over this strip if there was no trigger warning or cat picture.
Man, this is actually kind of relevant now, huh?
>>83129662
repostan
>>83133034
Is it really stealing if you're taking it from your own family's house? Like, there were times when I forgot my key and broke into my house, pretty sure the cops wouldn't give me a hard time.
>>83152109
Trigger warning should have been "miscarriage" or "child death" to make it perfect.
>>83152109
Her birth certificate and, if they'd found it, social security card belong to her, so that's not stealing. If they just copy her social security number and leave the documents they found it won't be stealing, but if they take the papers it might be a little iffy. Just taking the number is fine though because it is hers. And I doubt the breaking in part is illegal unless her dad filed a court order against her entering his property, but I'm guessing neither of them has done shit and she's still officially a resident. But that $200 probably straight up belongs to her dad and I doubt he'd want her to have it. So that there is outright stealing.
>>83152510
But her dad would have to press charges. They'd have to get caught by the police, specifically found with the cash, the cops would have to refuse to let her off with a warning and just having her put the money back, and then her dad would have to press charges. The odds of that all happening is astronomical.
>>83120100
If I had only one eyebrow, I would contemplate suicide too.
>>83118866
>>83129662
>>83133034
Missed an opportunity to just have the house filled with bibles and guns.
>>83152605
Well, yeah, but that's an answer to the question of whether or not they'll suffer any consequences, not the question of whether or not it really counts as stealing. Joyce doesn't have to worry about going to prison but what they're doing may still arguably be wrong.
>>83152798
Did they go into the "secret room?" I couldn't tell if that was supposed to be the suicide room or if it was the room with the tax papers or if they still haven't entered it. I wanted it to be a secret gun room or a satanist shrine.
>>83131939
Do you remember how that strip ended? It ended with Ruth glaring down at Mary, showing she wasn't alone.
People spent that entire thread asking of Willis is incapable of legit tension. This strip proves that he really is.
>>83153415
>Did they go into the "secret room?"
I have no clue.
>I wanted it to be a secret gun room or a satanist shrine.
Or a secret shrine to Gun Satan!
To be real for a second, I thought the reveal was gonna be that Ross hit Bonnie.
>>83154307
>Or a secret shrine to Gun Satan!
>yfw it's the murdercube from /k/ lore
>>83129662
>lets remove any chance of impact by surrounding the page with trigger warnings and kittens.
>>83118866
can someone give me the run up of these strips. I want to make Nazi Josh
>>83144740
growing up just means they give the forms to you and not your parents
it doesnt mean no one should ever need to be warned about something again
>>83154307
>I thought the reveal was gonna be that Ross hit Bonnie.
he probably still did. we still need the reason why she was killing herself, afterall
>>83154307
I think the secret room is supposed to be the suicide room, it's explained from Joyce's point of view.
>>83155490
It'll be revealed that it was Bonnie who beat the shit out of Ross and Becky because this is Willis and if there is one thing Willis hates more than anything, it's mothers.
>>83155393
Becky invited herself to Joyce's house for the weekend, drama ensued and now they're breaking into Becky's dad's house to steal her personal papers.
Also Carla is building some kind of rape dungeon as revenge against Mary.
>>83140104
>Actual Ecto-Cooler.
Well. Something named Ecto-Cooler that probably outwardly resembles Ecto-Cooler.
You have no guarantee they're still using the same 30 year old recipe.
>>83130699
>>83159325
fair enough. Buy a crate first. But with all the buzz this is creating, and lets face it, who the fuck cares but 80's and 90'sfags, they'd be pretty stupid to fuck with it.
My fear is they'll keep it the same but I changed so much since I was a kid that I won't like it anymore.
>>83159325
They were using it as recently as 2007, I don't see why they'd change it.
>>83157698
But Bonnie tried committing suicide. She's clearly the victim who could never do any wrong, ever, no matter what. Hell, Ross probably beat her because she wasn't performing her wifely duties.
(I don't think Willis will try to paint Bonnie in a bad light, since it's not like we'll ever meet her anyway. Besides, people would probably bitch if he made a suicide victim look bad)
>Willis used to drop these drama bombs in normal strips without warning
>Now everything has to be bubble-wrapped for fear that somebody at Oberlin will be offended
Come on, they'll be offended no matter what you do because you're a white male.
>>83162309
Nah, you just have to work within the narrative. Have her suicide be irrelevant to her personal nature, a la a terminal illness, and you can have her killing herself without being a victim. Hell, you can even have her killing herself be an act of spite considering she offed herself in her house so her family would find her.
>>83164918
>not using trigger warnings as an integral part of your horror story
>>83120100
Looking at this again, I have to point out the same-hair syndrome. Like if you lassoed the face bangs and back of the head, the characters would look almost identical for all of them. Could he really not figure out curly/kinky/frizzy bangs? Did he really just have to give her the same bang prong that most of the characters have?
>>83168275
Did you not notice that her hair is completely straight until it reaches her ears then completely frizzles out? That's like, growing out a perm or something.
