Couldn't a large deal of the issues in the Ultimate universe be avoided if Xavier just let Magneto die way back in the first arc of Ultimate X-Men? Is it entirely Xavier's fault that the world had that big of a downward spiral of decay? Just imagine if Ultimatum never happened.
So happy I avoided ultimate Marcel like the plague while I was reading Ultimate Spider-Man
>>82991011
>Couldn't a large deal of the issues in the bible be avoided if Jesus had choked on a pea when he was 8?
>>82991011
Yes, most conflict in fiction can be eliminated by killing some of the main characters at the beginning of the story.
>>82991135
I'm just saying all his attempts at "saving" Magneto only lead to a planet that's going to be scarred for generations assuming it ever recovers. What good even came from it?
>>82991011
Was Ultimate X-men good. I haven't read it in years. I remember Cyclops being a douche,Wraith being a white guy, and Magneto was more brutal. I also remembered the series having a hate boner for George Bush. Then again, every one did back then.
>>82991322
It was okay until the end of Kirkman run.
>>82991322
There were some very enjoyable comics.
I remember Ultimate War being really good.
>>82991095
....would it?
>>82991460
I think Kirkman's run is where it really started going downhill. He destroyed Nightcrawler by making hate Colossus and kidnap Dazzler, and his Apocalypse/Phoenix arc was godawful.
A lot of shit was SHIELD's fault too desu
>>82991092
But Ultimate Marvel was great outside of Ultimate X-men and everything Loeb wrote.
>>82995264
But Ultimate X-Men up until Kirkman is decent to great and better than a lot of UF4
>>82995264
Ultimate X-Men always came off as meh or generic X-Men related stuff
>>82995437
UFF until Carey's run (which was mixed) was solid
God, I remember this comic. I was in 5th grade when this was coming out. I thought I was so fucking cool for reading it.
>>82995878
I disliked Millar, but the first arc was pretty competent and Ellis' issues were great.
>>82995830
It was the "cool" X-men comic for kids who were too dumb to understand New X-Men but had just seen the 2000 movie.
>>82995981
I think Millar's was a step down from Ellis, but it had a good set of bones.
Namor was his weakest arc, but the Ult. Fright Four and Doom's end were just really entertaining.
>>82995913
what are you feeling now?
