We can all agree he was the best character on lok, right?
>>82985164
The best Character in Korra was her depression
No, that airbending bad guy was.
>>82985164
No, he was always forced comedy relief.
>>82985164
>Red Rat
>Watered Down Sokka
Varrick>Tenzin>Bolin
He got dragged down in the later seasons with too much forced comic relief
>>82985164
Yeah, I guess Pabu was the best character.
>>82985462
Varrick was entertaining but as a character he was shit, except in the worst season in the show.
>>82985164
Absolutely. Pabu was basically the only reason to watch the show past season 1.
>>82985164
pabu is just a shittier momo
>>82985183
You mean her?
>>82985578ill cut u bich
>>82985164
Bolin was a horrible, terrible character, only Asami was worse.
Pabu was just kind of inoffensive and pointless.
I actually thought S4 Korra was the best character on the show
>>82985164
Pabu was great, but I wouldn't call him the best. He loses points for hanging out with that terrible clown all the time.
>>82986008
I prefered Season 1 and 3 Korra myself. Bolin was one of my favorites though, was sad to see the writers shit on him so much.
>>82986008
S4 Korra is the best possible person Korra is ever going to become.
She also emits lesbian radiation
>>82985164
Naga is best character. Notice how when the series declined in popularity, so did Naga's screentime.
>>82985462
Are you shitting me? The later seasons are when Bolin was best, especially 4. Him playing straight man to Varrick was his best arc in the series.
>>82985164
No, Tenzin was
Who was better at doing bad things and having the story treat them as a hero in the end with no fucking repercussions, her or Varrick?
>>82989460
korra mostly
>>82989460
Varrick had to at least make a tiny effort to change his ways
>>82989460
Varrick, guy helped develop the closest thing the setting will ever have to an atomic bomb, helped start a civil war and tried to kidnap a third country's president to draw them into said war and the series ends with everyone attending his wedding.
Worst thing Su has done compared to that is let him stay in her city, off the top of my head.
>ywn watch Korra with /co/ for the first time again
Even as shitty as book 2 was, watching it was a wild ride.
Best character was Korra herself because this
>>82989460
>>82989605
Its actually amazing how everyone just accepts Varrick back.
He was a legit bad guy and was basically a terrorist
>>82985164
Bolin got fucked over hard he never really found his ourpose in life
>>82989647
It's not terrorism to blow up your own building. That's just like arson
I preferred Lin, Tenzin, Varrick, Jinora, and Korra post-season 3 finale.
Bolin was fine by season 4, but he never really had the same arc that Sokka had, going from comic relief to a leader in his own right.
>>82989647
Yeah surprisingly LOK had some views that I would not expect the sequel to ATLA to have. I didn't realize until the end with the party being thrown for a very elite few with the ruins of a city as a backdrop how friendly the show is to the rich.
Mako and Bolin were really the only average people in attendance.
>>82989605
The worst things Su did were scarring Lin's face, though that got her banished from RC, and keeping her son out of prison while his Hitler gf will probably get life sentence.
>>82989460
Varrick at least acknowledged the things he did were wrong and had to go on the journey to fix what he started.
Su just pinned everything on Lin and Kuvira.
This lady is my hero.
Best characters were pre-book 4 Korra, Tenzin, Lin (though I got tired of her angry old lady shtick especially in book 4) and pre-book 4 Jinora. Mako gets an honorary mention.
>>82989460
Varrick
>wants to start a war to make money
>rather than help his own Tribe, he also gives resources to the North
>has his men kidnap Unalaq who Korra rescues but Unalaq uses this towards his stupid plan and puts Korra's dad to death then later changed to prison as Korra kickstarts the civil war
>fucks around in the URN and hires gang members to steal Asami's stuff
>wastes time with Bolin
Book 4
>builds weapons (the energy beam) and modifies the mecha tanks for a military that doesn't need them in the first place as they are bringing order back so far without them
>by gathering all those vines, he's hurting spirits and even back in AtLA that was a bad thing in Aang's eyes
His wedding is the main focus of the end of Book 4 where the people he's hurt or wanted to hurt for profit all smile and sit content while Bolin babbles and wastes time.
Suyin
>scars her sister and says Lin should just get over it since she has already forgiven herself
>puts her mother in a position that (I guess?) makes her feel uncomfortable being Chief - this I'm not sure of since no one else knew what happened so there was no scandal involved
>hangs around pirates and bad guys even after she is asked to leave the URN
>uses Beifong money to create her own city on EK soil and doesn't want to pay the Queen for living there in her own utopia
>tells Korra to go and risk her life and the lives of her friends because
>kills P'li rather than restrain her thereby allowing Zaheer to abandon his humanity and no longer have a personal goal in life thereby allowing him to fly so he can complete his personal goal
4
>isn't good at metalbending as poison was still in Korra adding to her messed up state making recovery time last longer which means Kuvira was uniting longer
>doesn't want any person from her utopia to help her neighbors using her resources
>tells Korra to fight for her and then breaks a truce to try and assassinate the Fuhrer with her children as backup
continued in part 2
>>82987928
>Him playing straight man
It's testament to just how fucking unfunny Bolin was that he only worked when playing the straight man.
>>82985164
He was the only one to really conform to the Avatar TLA standard of being both goofy and serious as the situation called for it. Not to mention was flawed without the writers acting like he wasnt (like they did with Korra: she was flawed, but was written in such a way to be "but not really")
>>82985378
Is the only other character that was any decent and for the same reason.
You look at the characters in TLA and they're flawed. They dont hide their flaws. They are funny and but when the situation calls they can serious.
You look at Korra and they're flawed but the writers keep tripping over themselves to either hide these flaws or make them not count. Its similar to what fanfiction writers do.
>>82989666
He was a magic boxing sports superstar, the protagonist of the first movie franchise and a corporal in earth Hitler's army.
He is also apparently an ordained minister, apparently.
He has accomplished more than anyone here would dream of.
>>82989788
>>uses Beifong money to create her own city on EK soil and doesn't want to pay the Queen for living there in her own utopia
To be fair, it's the only place in all the Avatarverse that isn't a complete shithole, so she did something right there.
>>82989820
>He has accomplished more than anyone here would dream of.
As does any Sonic OC with Power Level: ∞
Doesn't make them well written characters.
>>82989788
>isn't good at metalbending as poison was still in Korra adding to her messed up state making recovery time last longer which means Kuvira was uniting longer
That's not really a character flaw on Su's part.
>>82989717
ATLA had a similar problem though, funnily enough Aang is the only main character who isn't royalty or obscenely rich. Even Katara and Sokka are the children of the Chief of the tribe.
It got ridiculous when it turned out that Korra was also a secret Water Tribe princess in addition to being the Avatar.
>>82989917
>secret Water Tribe princess in addition to being the Avatar
As well as the first person to ever tame a Polarbeardog, which she did age 5.
>>82989917
To be fair the south seems to treat the title of chief differently and nobody has referred to Korra as a princess since the end of book 2, but I did think it was really silly that they did end up moving into that big ice palace.
You're right that ATLA had it too but its ending didn't leave a bad taste in my mouth like LOK's did. Probably because there were so many more rich people and they were having a party while the city was in ruins around them.
>>82989788
>wants to help her eldest son get through this heavy time after Kuvira's attacks fail while Kuvira who, she says was like a daughter to her, Su wants Kuvira to pay for all that she's done despite her son playing a part in it all
Su is an attendant at the wedding in the end and needs to go back to building up her city and reputation.
Varrick eats screen time and doesn't pay for it.
Suyin's are more personal than Varrick's grandiose shenanigans. Plus Varrick's voice actor gives a lovable performance being one of the only characters allowed to have fun and laugh to counter Su's bland voice acting. General opinion is Suyin for 4chan.
>>82989863
It's not about being well written.
It's about /co/ wanting to praise him and say what a shame it was that he wasn't the titular character because Bryke would have suddenly written a better narrative.
I think the thing that still bothered me about Suyin was the completely different way she treated her adopted daughter from her other kids.
Baatar Junior helps destroy cities and only apologizes after Kuvira throws him under the bus, but Su welcomes him back with open arms. Yet she doesn't flinch at the idea of having Kuvira killed or imprisoned in the end. Yet no one ever really calls her out on it.
It still makes me rages to this day that they didn't do a 'I'm not worthy to be the avatar I'll an hero so you can get a new more suitable avatar' arc
>>82990062
>Baatar Junior helps destroy cities and only apologizes after Kuvira throws him under the bus, but Su welcomes him back with open arms.
She got that from her mom.
>Yet she doesn't flinch at the idea of having Kuvira killed or imprisoned in the end. Yet no one ever really calls her out on it.
To be fair Su spends most of the book locked up and it's not until the very end that we see her trying to excuse Baatar's actions and at that point everything was so busy and clogged with characters to really focus on it. Assuming the comics will ever not focus on a close up of Asami and Korra's vaginas rubbing against each other it'll probably be brought up because Baatar was literally Kuvira's right hand man, which means we're getting another Beifong family conflict.
>>82989820
And each one of those turned out not to be his path
After season 1 he was trying to find his place in life and then they just sort of forgot to have him actualy find it
>>82990238
Opal said in book 4 he seems to be genuinely happy helping out less fortunate people (not really surprising), so maybe he'll be a... social worker? God knows Republic City can use some of those.
>>82989460
The show acknowledges that Varrick is a backstabbing dick and has done horrible stuff, even if it's part of the joke. You are free to love or hate him.
The show is also utterly convinced that Su Jin is some kind of saint despite her blatant, all consuming egoism. I
In universe Varrick did a lot more damage, but the later is worse, because it generates a disconnect between the show and the viewer.
The show shows something disagreeable but tries to paint it in a light that makes it look positive.
This generates something cognitive psychology defines as reactance, which stands for the recipients rejection when they get the feeling that their autonomy of decision is being manipulated.
Same thing happened with Korrasami in S1.
>>82990399
Thank you Mako that was very insightful.
>>82990074
She was thinking that at the end of S1
>>82990399
>Korrsami
Shit, I meant Makorra
To elaborate, if Su Jin being way to full of herself was acknowledged, used for jokes or depicted as a genuine issue that just can't be addressed right now, people would probably be more willing to accept that character flaw.
Likewise people would have received Makorra better if the show had taken a moment to say: "Yeah the way Asami gets the shaft here is pretty messed up and all parties involved feel bad about it, but love isn't always fair."
>>82990712
>Yeah the way Asami gets the shaft here is pretty messed up and all parties involved feel bad about it, but love isn't always fair.
They kinda did this because Mako was visibly upset while he and Asami were breaking up, the problem was how it was framed and because people were too dense to understand it was a breakup.
Like four years later and I still think a majority of the problems with the Krew's writing can be traced back to the decision to keep Asami on board and do nothing to change her character (besides flipping the 'evil' switch to the 'good' one) or her plot in book 1.
>>82990777
The scene in question was staged horribly though.
It seemed like the writing was trying to sweep the issue under the rug quickly instead of addressing it properly.
Mako half-hearteldy mumbled an apology that amounted to: "I'm sorry you feel bad."
The rest of the entire season doesn't show Asami dealing with the aftermath of the break-up once, as if to say: Yeah, don't worry about her.
That was just badly handled, man.
Asami was the only one who wasnt terribly selfish, forced or painfully incompetent. she also suffered the most and was the most likable.
this is coming from someone who hasnt seen season 4
>>82990151
I wouldn't mind some callback to Zaheer and Kuvira as well. If Azula can get some semi-redemption via the comics, I don't see why we couldn't see those two again.
>>82991115
She was still terribly bland, useless and had no real reasons to stick with any of the main characters after book 1.
>>82991205
To be fair, I think almost all the characters in Korra were terrible and bland. Tenzin was alright though.
>>82985164
him, varrick and tenzin
>>82990712
>"Yeah the way Asami gets the shaft here is pretty messed up and all parties involved feel bad about it, but love isn't always fair."
Pretty good summary. I mean, the love triangle felt forced regardless, considering how everyone barely knew each other. But the fact that Asami was just kind of dumped offscreen only exasperated what was unlikable about it.
>>82991115
Asami wasn't anything. She had no flaws, no real personality traits beyond being nice, nothing drive her beyond her company, her plots were consistently handed off to other characters and the second she got one, it was basically resolved within the span of a commercial break and never brought up again until the series finale. Asami exists for three reasons: to drive the Krew around, be sad, and be a love interest.
No Asami fan who has actually been paying attention to how she's been treated should be completely happy with the way things ended for her.
>>82991027
It's because Asami wasn't supposed to still be around at that point and they couldn't be half-assed to change anything about the love triangle.
>>82991292
This. I don't get how people got so excited about Korrasami, because it basically meant Korra being paired off with a walking piece of cardboard.
>>82991292
>It's because Asami wasn't supposed to still be around at that point and they couldn't be half-assed to change anything about the love triangle.
if I didn't know how fucking long it takes to make cartoons I would say that the Asami stuff in Book 1 was rewritten at the very last minute and bryke never bothered to make any revisions to the script other than adding the Hiroshi/Asami fight in the finale.
The Mako/Korra love story turns into a huge mess just because of her being there, she hardly interacts with anyone in the krew and Bryke never knew what the fuck to do with her post-Book 1, not to mention how she wasn't in any of the early promotional stuff or trailers.
>>82991541
Korra should be Fred and Mako Velma
>>82991510
Probably because the big Asami stans are batshit and heavily project onto her to the point where people who aren't familiar with LOK think she's a totally different character.
>>82991541
I think Bryke must either really like Seychelle or Bryan waifus Asami hard (iirc he designed her and was really proud of it because he's never been great at designing women) because that's the only reason I can think of they decided to keep her around.
>>82991681
>Bryan waifus Asami hard (iirc he designed her and was really proud of it because he's never been great at designing women)
Yeah, she was actually the only main character that he designed himself, most of the others were designed by that Ryu guy.
>>82991541
>>82991681
>if I didn't know how fucking long it takes to make cartoons I would say that the Asami stuff in Book 1 was rewritten at the very last minute and bryke never bothered to make any revisions to the script other than adding the Hiroshi/Asami fight in the finale.
Wait this is definitely true because look at how they resolved the conflict between Korra, Mako and Bolin compared to how they handled Asami. There was basically an episode dedicated to Korra making amends for what she did, and Bolin got apologies from both of them that were well written.
It takes Korra six months to actually talk to Asami about it and apologize for what happened. And people thinks this means Korra is abusive towards Asami, or Bryke hates her when it's more like they don't care about her.
>>82991681
>>82991794
Think it was simpler, they probably wanted a gender balanced Krew and didn't want to add a new character.
>>82991794
And even then Asami just looks like Lust, Talia, and Zatanna.
>>82989605
his role in the civil war wasn't really villainous. he saw it was inevitable and schemed to give his people as much of an advantage as possible in the only way his resources and skill set allowed. the fact that he planned to profit off of it wasn't evil because it was all going to go down anyway, so why not make a buck
>>82991832
I don't know, if Bryan gets the chance he usually ends up gushing about Asami and/or Seychelle. Gender balance was probably a factor but not the only one. I think Opal would have made a better final addition to the Krew but she'd have to be introduced in book 2 at the latest.
>>82991962
I always liked the idea of Jinora joining before they turned her into the magical princess of fairies.
I never liked Asami much because of how badly connected she was with the rest of the krew and the other main characters, Varrick played the wealthy industrialist role much better than she did and her fighting style is essentially just cartwheeling and electrocuting nameless non-bender mooks.
>>82992223
Yeah Asami is literally the poster child of wasted potential and now they'll never fix that because the fandom is in love with their own idealized version of her.
>>82992420
>fandom
KYHU's fans are after one thing and one thing only. There is no fandom for LoK, just those who look for the porn drawn by people who don't care for the drama.
>>82991962
>Seychelle
?
>>82985596
Man, depression is hot.
>>82992506
Asami's va, Seychelle Gabrielle, who played Yue in the movie.
>>82992514
If Korra's depression is anything like mine was, she probably went long periods of time without bathing.
S4 was horrible
/endthread
I'm not the only one who wanted to sexually dominate Lin right?
>>82992897
I wanted her to sexually dominate me.
>>82993891
I'd like to watch her get sexually dominated by or sexually dominate Kya.
>>82991962
>>82991832
>>82991681
>>82991541
>>82991205
It's my personal opinion that Korra should have had a new crew for every season.
Asami's the worst example but Mako and Bolin are also guilty of being completely irrelevant to events outside of Book 1. They keep being forced into random new roles (Cop, Actor, Nazi, Royal babysitter) that aren't natural progressions of their characters, simply to keep them involved. It also means that their personal storylines end up being completely superfluous to whatever real story is going on in that season because they simply weren't designed to operate outside of the Equalist plot line.
They should have just had Korra be a travelling Avatar who forms her crew to tackle whatever event she's dealing with, and then drift off once she's fixed all their lives.
>>82994151
C U T E
>>82996446
Exactly.
>>82994151
What happened to her after book 3?
>>82985164
No, Bolin was a discount Sokka who was rarely funny. Varrik is the only "comedy" character this show did well.
>>82985164
Yes.
>>82989917
I don't know if Water Tribe Chief offspring is really that great a title in terms of wealth or prestige. Katara and Sokka were the only ones with money at first, but it seems more like whatever change the tribe scraped together. Same with Korra, though if I remember right she arrived in Republic City without a dime to her name
>>82990062
Knowing Su I doubt Kuvira will be executed. More likely imprisoned for possibly life, since her only crime (to Su) was attempting to take over the city and imprisoning it's matriarch (though the latter could be argued as self defense)
>>82998905
>though if I remember right she arrived in Republic City without a dime to her name
That's because she stowaway'd into Republic City and only bothered to pack a sweater and her polar bear dog.
>>82998905
That's because it's pretty obvious that she wasn't meant to be royalty in S1.
>>82989917
ATLA took a lot of anime storytelling cliches, but it accidentally picked up the most prevalent: a story that tries to champion hard work and an underdog cast, while really being all about genetics and the rich and powerful getting what they want.
>>82998905
What these anons said >>82999059 >>82999373. But Korra also mentions in book 1 that she has never needed money at all since the White Lotus paid for everything she ever needed. So since she had never needed money before she wouldn't think of bringing it anywhere.
>>82991895
Hot girl with long black hair is a very solid design.
>>83006741
Sure, but why would you be proud of designing something so generic?
>>82992487
You know me so well.
>>83006741
>Fire Nation royalty wore bikini swimsuits to public beaches
>70 years later girls wear one piece swimsuits and guys have to wear tank tops in private indoor pools.
Which prudes were responsible for this?
>>83007062
The silly westerners ofcourse! The same ones that influenced Republic city.
>>83006741
>girl
>zuko with lipstick
nigga you gay.
>>83007270
>zuko with lipstick
Wouldn't that be Azula?
