>Dan Shive is going to strawman AVGN for not wanting to see the shitty new Ghostbusters movie
>is going to strawman everyone for thinking the movie looks like shit despite the trailers being unfunny and looking like shit
Oh boy. First Patton Oswalt, now this. How long til Willis has a strip in DoA about this? Or those Critical Miss guys strawman AVGN? This is going to be huge.
>>82962015
Dan actually seems to be the kind of guy that will admit that the movie is shit when he actually whatch it.
>>82962061
>implying
He'd call it amazing just to save the patriarchy from taking over cinema.
>Ghost busters without Bill murray playing Dr.Venkman
What's the point?
>>82962015
Why is everyone freaking out over the angry nerd anyway? He said nothing that bad. He didnt even say anything about the ghostbusters being female.
>>82962403
He said that it looks bad and it wasn't funny. Which he is right. Trailers are generally supposed to contain the better examples of a movie to make it seem worth watching.
However the trailer had no funny moments in it
>ANGRY BLACK WOMAN POWER COMPELS YOU!
or were just painful to watch.
It showed that it's not a sequel, which is fine. But it doesn't really seem to have the same appeal as the first movie cast. I don't think you really need Bill Murray, but all the characters seem to play an awkward woman except for the loud black lady.
He even did a follow up video about how Ghostbusters 3 spent decades trying to get made. His end message was that if you look at the Transformers series, everyone hates the movies. They are shit. But they keep getting money because people want to see it. If we really want to send a message to studios, people should avoid bad movies.
>>82962884
Loud Black Woman was the only funny part of the second trailer, at least
>>82962015
Are the El Goonish Shive cast all still virgins?
>>82962015
Did none of these people even watch the video? The guy made a perfectly valid point: Ghostbusters is one of his favorite movies of all time. The new one, judging by what's available, looks like a hunk of shit and a cynical cash grab treading on an old name to try and real people in while doing nothing to respect the original movies the way Star Trek or Star Wars did by at least including the old actors to pass the torch.
He literally said nothing about about women aside from the fact that calling it Ghostbusters with no subtitle means that you have to qualify it as the female Ghostbusters or the old one was the male Ghostbusters to differentiate them.
This is the dumbest outrage I've seen since Shirtgate. At least that black guy from Mizzou faked a poop swastika.
>>82963098
I doubt that half of them are.
Actually, I think that it was confirmed that Grace often waked up naked on Teds bed with them sleeping together. Take that as you want.Susan is a little smug but still best girl
>>82962403
The video is literally NOT MUH GHOSTBUSTERS. I don't care if he likes it or not, but acting like the world is pulling your arm to the theater like a mother would to a screaming child just reeks of manchild entitlement.
>>82962403
Nobody who's bitching watched the video. Part of the PR of the movie is using the "if you don't like it you're a misogynist" card because the movie looks like (and almost certainly is) shit. They're trying to pre-emptively cry misogyny to head off any criticism so you have """"news"""" websites like the Dailydot going with it (likely due to general bribery from Sony) and which then means every virtue signally retard has to take up the cause. The worst part is people believe it too.
I've had conversations IRL with people regarding this and even when I explain what's going on they just say he's just trying to cover up his misogyny. The well of discourse has been completely poisoned.
>>82962884
>But it doesn't really seem to have the same appeal as the first movie cast.
Someone on /pol/ of all places put it best, essentially saying that Ghostbusters was made because Dan Aykroyd has an interest in the paranormal and it's a bunch of guys with good chemistry who made a movie that they wanted to make. Whereas this movie was something shit onto a plate by a studio executive and then presented to people despite the fact nobody wanted it. Even one of the stars of the fucking movie said the trailer looked like shit.
>>82963296
But he DIDN'T. He specifically said "I don't think it looks good, so I'm not going to see it. If you don't think it looks good, then you shouldn't see it either." He's explicitly talking about how not watching or talking about the movie is an option. He only talked about it because his fans were nagging him about it.
>>82962145
>What's the point?
Money. The answer is money
>>82963306
Uh huh. I bet you also believe Disney is bribing critics for bad Batman v Superman reviews too.
>>82963392
Yeah, it's honestly valid. People bitch about how bad something looks, then go and pay money to watch it so they can talk about how bad it is. At that point, who cares? You've given them your money so they win. Same shit happens with Marvel's comics where they intentionally set out to piss people off under the belief that angry people will pay to read a comic so they can be angry about it even more and talk about it.
So what he's proposing is the correct course of action: do not pay to see it. Do not give the movie studio your money. Do not talk about it, do not give it attention. Ignore it and let it fail. I'll add that if you absolutely want to see something because you think that'll allow you to make a better critique, then pirate it. I read the storytimes for books I liked such as Superior Foes, The Fix or Ant-Man but I do that because I like talking with the people who read it and Lieber, it's fun. But I still go and buy the books.
I'm not going to actually pay to read Civil War II or the garbage that is the current line of X-Men books so I'll read storytimes and that's it, I'm not giving Marvel my money for that shit. Marvel shouldn't be rewarded for putting out bad comics, Sony and WB shouldn't be rewarded for putting out bad movies. No matter how much you go "HURR DURR IT SUCKS", if you paid to see it then at the end of the day you're the sucker.
>>82963695
I'll see it, but I'll only give them 6 bucks
>>82962015
>>82963794
Alternatively, you could use that $6 to buy half a corndog.
>>82962015
This belongs to /tv/.
Also you really are in deep when watching or not watching a goddamn hollywood special effects comedy becomes a political point.
>>82963695
Yeah I am going to find an online leak of the new Ghostbusters and watch it that way.
I refuse to give my money to any product that I don't think deserves it.
>>82962015
I would fuck both of them.
Who are they? This is the exact type of cartoon body on girls that I love.
>>82962015
Can someone explain to me why James is getting shat on for calmly telling his fans why they shouldn't expect a review?
Seriously at best there should have only been some minor bitching in the comments for James to watch it anyway just to rage and from people who honestly wanted him to give the movie a shot. Not some fucked up lynching from twitter and "news" sites
So my question is that is comicbookgirl19 sexist now too?
she said she was not planning to see the movie either and even said she would recommend her fans not go either, and she did this before James Rolfe the AVGN
>>82963951
Because they're afraid he's right
>>82963951
A lot of the people jumping down his throat haven't seen the video and assume it's about him hating female comedians instead of any of the other things he said.
>>82963951
James was asked by his fans what he thought about the trailer and if he was planning to review the film.
He created the video in response to his fans, and wanted to address the fans properly.
His mass amount of fans started sharing the video and social media, specifically twitter, tumblr, and others took over, and here we are
>>82963822
FUUUUUCK!
>>82962979
Really?
Really??
>>82963822
>that jab
well done MediocreAtBest
>>82963822
Please don't screenshot your own tweets
>>82963822
Fucking brutal!
>>82964092
Saying, and I quote directly: "I don't think it looks good, so I'm not going to see it." is obviously misogynist, racist and fat shaming and therefore worthy of death threats and people throwing rocks at his house.
>>82963822
Low class. This, the guys calling James' wife a gold digger, and the other guys making fun of the comedians dead wife are all proof that twitter was a mistake.
>>82963822
Cold blooded!
>>82964080
It's ironic. They complain about how he calls something shit without having seen it even though most of the people complaining haven't watched the video either.
>>82962015
>>82963822
Brutal, but probably more brutal than the conversation warranted.
>>82964230
I never said it was worthy of any of that, but the tumblr and SJW crowd see sexism and racism in everything, especially when the target is a white guy
>>82964248
That woman had an abortion just so she could make a short film of it.
Do we have any chance of getting another Ghostbusters cartoon?
>Bake brownies
>You see me put literal shit in it
>I offer you some brownies
>"No, I don't think I'd like it."
>"BUT YOU HAVEN'T EVEN TRIED IT!"
>getting mad about Dan's opinion literally being "I am sick of the high tensions over this when the movie isn't out yet"
Never change, /co/.
>>82963980
I wanna fuck that butt SO BAD
>>82962015
>reboot great film
>make the cast all female cos sjw
>make the black character less sjw than the original
P O T T E R Y
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>>82964401
It will probably be a cartoon based on the new movie universe and follow the female Ghostbusters
The amount of nonsense related to this movie is insane. I can't wait until it's confirmed that the movie is mediocre to the point of absolute irrelevance and both sides look the asshole.
Getting up in arms about people's reaction to a fucking trailer is insane. Do people seriously think you can only have an opinion about something if you decide to pay them? If the trailer didn't sell you on it, don't feel obligated to watch it. That simple.
>>82964175
I chuckled when the concert crowd didn't catch her and she asked if it was a woman thing or a black thing
>>82964535
As its own continuity, just like the movie is doing, right? That means no Egon. That means to Kylie.
>>82963980
for those curious what she said
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQIuTGfPHvA
>>82964584
Mediocre plies its at least ok. I expect it to bomb harder than dresden
>>82964248
>twitter was a mistake
web 2.0 in it's entirety was a mistake
>>82963980
No, because nothing a woman does is ever wrong.
But still, the movie's going to be unassailably great because it has women in it and we've established that they're never wrong.
>>82964546
A trailer usually isn't telling the full picture, for good movies or bad.
It'd be better if the movie is out so the full product can be assessed.
>>82964613
I didn't know le geeky hipster ghostbuster had a YouTube channel
>>82963296
Shit people can't express opinions anymore?
>>82964671
That's what people said to me when I said I wasn't going to watch BvS because the trailer looked like dogshit
>>82963980
>>82964613
She's female so she gets a pass I guess. Hell she was harsher than James and actively criticized having an all female cast and I don't think anyone has given her shit yet.
Honestly it just makes the reaction to James' video all the more baffling
>>82963174
>Shirtgate
Explain
>>82963939
El Goonish Shive.
Yeah, Shive draw some amazing girls.
>>82964610
yeah sorry anon, it's how media works they push the new shit.
At least we still have the comics
>>82964671
>a picture of someone getting stabbed in the dick doesn't tell you whether its good or bad
>you need to be actually stabbed in the dick to know whether it's good or bad
>>82964628
I want it to be mediocre.
I want the people wanting a horrible movie and those having a fantastic movie to be equally disappointed. That is what I want from this movie now. Pure, utter irrelevance.
>>82964716
That time that guy who landed a probe on a comet wore a shirt with sect ladies on it and feminists made him cry
>>82964665
so basically create a no true scotsman fallacy just because it helps their narrative
>>82964716
You're gonna love this
>scientists lands a rocket on a moving asteroid
>huge fuckong accomplishment
>HSIC comes did the interview in a somewhat racy shirt
>the somewhat racy shirt is anything people can talk about
>people are badgering the scientist
>biggest accomplishment life is followed soon after an apology of wearing a shirt on TV
>>82964671
You're right, everyone should see every Adam Sandler comedy before they can say he's not funny.
And they should watch his new one to evaluate their opinion yearly.
>>82964714
yeah, the internet is a weird place
>>82964716
Guy lands a probe on a comet and because he wore a shirt with sexy women on it, feminists gave him shit. It's important to note that the shirt was gift from a female friend
>>82964749
I would rather it bombs so hard it kills the idea of making a reboot with rule 63 of the cast. So that whenever someone brings the idea up in a meeting someone goes "but what about the ghostbusters reboot". Irrelevance will make people forget, I want it to be an example.
>>82964798
They're like Englishmen and Scots. Or Welshmen and Scots. Or the Japanese and Scots. Or Scots and other Scots.
Damn women, they ruined feminism!
>>82964798
It's not a no true scotsman fallacy because it's not adopting a private definition of "woman" to exclude undesirable examples. It's just a reluctance to criticize women, whether they're making a film or criticizing that same film, thus ostensibly putting themselves on opposite sides of a conflict.
>>82964703
>>82964746
>>82964827
Come on guys.
There has to be some terrible film you've seen that had a good trailer which made you want to see it and then regret wanting to see it.
>>82964714
Cinemassacre: 2,065,134 subscribers
comicbookgirl19: 455,324 subscribers
might have something to do with it
>>82964879
Yeah, your right but it just seems like such a weird narrative to take. I feel like there is a term for it and I may be forgetting it though
>>82964842
Y O U V E J U S T M A D E A N E N E M Y F O R L I F E
>>82964894
And there has got to be at least one movie trailer which made you think "that looks like shit" and you never watched the movie.
>>82964535
Well, there was a cartoon based on the 1998 Godzilla movie, and that cartoon was one of the best cartoons of the past 20 years...
>>82962015
This is now a thread to post the pin-ups and cheesecake of EGS.
>>82964930
If anything it's just a slightly patronizing kind of hypocrisy.
>>82964977
>>82964939
and sometimes the film with the shit trailer turns out to be good.
>>82964977
Exception that proves the rule.
>>82964991
>>82964977
Unnecessary:
>>>/aco/427407
>>82965019
>>82964977
I love how the Black lady's face totally says "This is everything I wanted"
>>82964962
So we are kind of hoping for the best from the worst overall
>>82964981
I see what your saying, maybe we should make a name for that kind of delusion
>>82964996
You're arguing that you can't say something is shit without doing it.
Im saying you can.
Saying that sometimes it can turn out good isn't a counter argument.
>>82965029
I just want to have some SFW fun on /co/.
>>82964894
the watchmen
cloverfield
the matrix reloaded
Prometheus
Man of Steel
i was soo excited for these fucking movies man
>>82963296
Hi tumblr.
>>82962015
the trailers were literally Adam Sandler tier. What more do you expect from shitty Sony?
>>82965083
and that's why i'm going to stay the fuck away from drama surrounding the new GB film until it actually comes out.
>>82962015
>people are trying to ruin other people's lives because they dislike a movie
>>82963822
He's right you know.
>>82965082
>>82965267
>>82965283
>>82965297
What were the reasons the AVGN gave for not reviewing the movie?
Guh.
Alright.
We don't KNOW that the movie will be shit. It MIGHT actually be good.
Not wanting to see the movie because it LOOKS like shit is perfectly valid, and just as much a massive failing as the movie itself being shit, but that don't confuse that for the movie actually BEING shit.
There. It's cleared up. Can we move on now? I hate these retarded circular semantic arguments
>>82965310
>trailer looks shit
>manbabies already didnt like it because of its all female cast
>patrician fans such as myself already didnt like it because its another reboot of an 80s movie
>people will actually pay hard earned money to see this in theaters just to hate it/ just to fight the patriarchy
>>82965314
its not a vidyagame
>>82965314
It looks bad and unfunny, and he's probably just going to add to the already endless pile of vitrol against the movie.
He might change his tune if the movie ends up actually being good, but if not, he doesn't want to just repeat what everyone else is already saying.
>AVGN
Why would I care?
>>82965328
Wow. Andrew Dobson got RIPPED
>>82965328
>>82965433
>>82965433
this is my new fetish
>>82965314
He didn't like the trailer and reboot fatigue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz8X2A7wHyQ
>>82965459
Good taste.
This isn't bad because of "muh womyn" or any other shitposting; I'm hesitant to accept it because it's just a reboot designed to appeal to nostalgia. I never really "grew-up" with it enough to be influenced by the goggles, but I feel like the original Ghostbusters was popular because of how original of an idea it was, the blend of sci-fi and campy ghost lore really was nice in retrospect. Now it's just supposed to be popular because it's Ghostbusters. It's safem and I know the whole "womyn" shit is a complete non-issue; it's going to be inoffensive as fuck.
People like to blame this "everything is a reboot now" trend on executives who are scared to take risks, but I think it's actually just as much the doing of "fandom culture," which I'm beginning to see as an extreme plague to all creativity. People obsess over shit so much and define themselves by "what they like," that they don't feel a *need* to go out of their comfort bubbles that have been inflating for decades. This "franchise" obsession is also the root of "not muh" bitching (very relevant for Ghostbusters especially,) because people have too much of a fixation on the original and what it means for the "franchise." It just becomes a shitshow from all angles because not only are we reinforcing the notion that franchises matter more than content, we're now seeing the scrutinization of reboots (which are perhaps one of the only ways to expand the "franchise") as an affront to creativity only because people care exclusively about certain things they're reluctant to move on from.
You'd almost think the only solution would be for nothing new to be made at all.
>>82965483
>>82964605
That did make me smile.
>>82965433
>>82965483thicc
>>82965506
>girl with long ponytail
seems familiar...
>>82965510
I agree, that part was alright. It was really more about the delivery than the actual joke though.
Also the bit at the end of the second trailer, with the ghost on her shoulders was goofy in a good way.
Wish I could say the same about any other part of the trailers
>>82965169
I love how Cinemassacre has not responded at all to the shitstorm. James and his friends are just ignoring it and releasing content on schedule.
>>82964388
She's the real monster here. You get pregnant and terminate the baby for a damn short film. Regardless of whether you're pro-choice or pro-life, that is some fucked up shit.
>>82964248
I dislike Patton Oswalt as he's an unfunny fat fuck. YET, I would not make fun of his wife dying. That is a line you don't cross.
Twitter and social media altogether is a large mistake. I recently re-register for Facebook and want to close it already. Too much shit posting, memes, political crap, etc.
>>82965499
Derision for this movie only turned to controversy because of women. Anyway, it's only movies that suffer from constant reboots. Vidya to lesser extent.
TV Shows keep making new IP, although obviously each IP lasts for years, but when it dies, it hopefully dies for good.
>>82965607
>I dislike Patton Oswalt as he's an unfunny fat fuck.
You should check out his latest stand-up special on netflix (talking for clapping), it's pretty good.
>>82965506
>>82965548
wait a sec
>>82965607
http://brobible.com/life/article/patton-oswalt-defends-ghostbusters-gets-skewered/2/
>Sorry your wife Shamu couldn't get back to the ocean in time, and now she's dead.
>>82965548
jesus. pull back with the thicness
>>82965029
come now anon, it's hardly a matter of necessity.
>>82965506
>>82965267
>You will never be part of a euphoric weeks long furry girl snuggle party.
Why live?
>>82965607
>tfw somebody on my facebook feed posted a video from some honest-to-God white supremacists, trying to claim that the riots in Paris were all the fault of those darn migrants and that nobody's covering it because of the EEEVIIIL political correctness, even though it's because of crappy new labour laws or some shit
He also thinks chemtrails are real, which was just icing on the cake.
>>82965548
I don't get it.
>>82965801
I was reminded of another asian character with a long ponytail.
>>82965781
>>82965829
>>82965820
Well, ok them.
>>82965459
>>82965872
>tfw no stealth pervert gf like the female EGS cast
>>82965784
>nobody's covering it
But... isn't EVERYONE covering it? Y'know, on account of Paris being one of the biggest cities in the world?
>>82965893
This is my last SFW one.
>>82965968
are you gonna post the nsfw stuff in the /aco/ thread?
>>82964928
CBG19 is one of the more prolific comic book reviewers/commentators on YouTube.
Though that doesn't say a lot, given that the only major competition she has is Linkara.
>>82963296
He said he wasn't seeing it. You fags are the ones losing your damn minds over it.
Feminism was a mistake.
>>82965998
Its already there desu.
>>82965951
Yeah, that was the extra-retarded part: when I saw the video I was all "... There are riots in Paris?" and wouldn't you know it, there were loads of news sites giving extensive coverage, as well as telling you why exactly shit was going down over there.
Tedd is best girl.
>>82966063
so we just call it a day and leave?
>>82965433
That Catgirl is the best thing ever. I'm in fucking love.
>>82966106
There is always drawthreads.
Some fanart would be great.
>>82966165
I wouldn't mind some hourglass expansion.
>>82963306
None of the cast members are talking about the movie. There are rumors that they were all required to sigh agreements to say nothing negative about the movie, and that their experience with the movie is so bad they have nothing positive to say.
The black lady got into a huge twitter fight with people trying to call her a role model, saying something akin to "why don't you all just leave me the fuck alone instead of putting me on a pedestal."
The on-set rumors also say that Melissa McCarthy specifically signed on because she was a fan of the Ghostbusters cartoon, and that because the director and studio have been pulling so hard to make it a broad comedy with "diversity" elements instead of a Ghostbusters movie that she's gotten into shouting matches with the director on set.
People like to shit on the cast because they're the "angry black woman" and "funny fat lady" but if the rumors are true they're the only ones in the studio on our side. In fact McCarthy basically sounds like one of us.
>>82963619
They are.
>>82963619
>Disneyfags like nuGhostbusters
If you ever needed proof that MUH SOGGY KNEE tumblrinas are Disney's new audience, Jumpman !!wPhlyh8seG+ is here to demonstrate.
>>82964671
The point of a trailer is literally to sell you on the movie.
If the trailer, which is the marketing for a movie that is supposed to bring you in the door, looks like shit, then what does that say about the movie?
>>82966204
that sure sounds convenient. Maybe I will suddenly change my mind and in fact see this movie, just because they ineffectively yelled at the director one time. It's ok, guys, the actors are fighting for us! They weren't successful, but the fact that they tried is a good enough reason to watch their piece of shit movie now! Please don't bully them; they were just following orders for that paycheck. They "wanted" to make a good movie, but it just didn't happen.
>>82966204
I think Melissa McCarthy (or one of the actresses) criticized the first trailer for being confusing and making people think it's a sequel when it's a reboot. Sony told her to go fuck herself.
Regardless how the movie turns out (I have little hopes), the actresses do not seem happy. I only seeing them coming back for a sequel if Sony threatened them. Though I bet Sony will cancel the sequel if it doesn't make enough money.
>>82964714
yeah this.
>>82964928
which also makes all the "who is this manbaby loser I never heard of" even more hilarious. how the hell does anyone in the entertainment industry not know exactly who James is? How out of touch and insular do you have to be?
>>82966403
who cares
>>82963822
fucking ouch
>>82966517
Post good /co/ related shit please.
Next time you will be postigo Dobson.
>>82966605
make me
>>82966490
You're from Sony, aren't you.
>>82966204
>>82966507
Just sounds like Wolverine Origins Deadpool damage control again, except nobody is buying that they are genuine fans
>>82966513
>>82966204
>The black lady got into a huge twitter fight with people trying to call her a role model, saying something akin to "why don't you all just leave me the fuck alone instead of putting me on a pedestal."
I can respect that.
>>82964314
hey that's an unfair comparison.
Hitler actually served in his nation's military as a trench courier.
>>82966675
>152K tweets
Jesus Christ
>>82962015
He does this shit all the time now. His characters are basically a soapbox. If anything, Susan seems like the one that's rational enough not to put up with a piece of shit like the new Ghostbusters movie. Of course soapbox and strawman shit comes first.
Like it's cool if you want to give a movie a chance but holy fuck I hate it when people act like we're completely in the dark. As if it's not the sole job of the trailer to show people what the movie is like and convince them that it's worth watching. Like there's this whole fucking wave of industry apologists who think they're the mature ones for giving something "a chance" as if it's unfeasible for someone to come to an educated conclusion based on a two minute clip that exists to do exactly that.
I mean, holy fuck, AVGN's entire video is "Well this looks like something I'll hate, so I won't watch it" and people are going fucking bonkers. Is there something about this particular movie that makes you a pre-judging idiot if you decide not to watch it? Like can I make a list of the shittiest movies I've ever seen and ask people to watch them, then get mad at them if they refuse? This is some Facebook-level shit, but I honestly want to see how these same people would respond to this argument if it were attached to something much more unpopular, like Donald Trump.
>I'm sick of hearing debate over a candidate that isn't even the president yet.
I know it's a little bit different, but shit, how about the debate over Assassin's Creed for *not* having female characters? Or the debate over Hatred needing to be taken off the Steam store?
>>82962061
I would bet you anything he wouldn't. Or at the very least he's going to convince himself it was good. Even if it's the complete fucking pile of garbage it'll obviously be, he's going to tiptoe around it and come up with some fucking stupid deflection like "but it was a fun movie!" or "everyone's being too harsh on it!"
>>82966490
Anon there's a middle ground here. It's possible for the actresses to be on our side AND for the movie to be bad. You don't have to be all in or all out.
>>82966490
Don't whatch it as all of us will do, but it's not like it is the actors fault. They have to follow the script an te director.
>>82964894
There has yet to be a movie with a shit trailer that ended up being great.
Now this is how you put together a real trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi3_OGnROMo
>>82966675
haha. fucking hell.
just like old media shitting on Pewdiepie. confused retards, out of the loop.
Even worse, who is this guy? an internet reviewer? An internet reviewer, doesn't know who James is? are you shitting me?
>>82966846
Devin Faracci is the genius behind "gamers are worse than Isis"
It's a pity, I kind've enjoyed his back-ups in The Fade-Out
>>82966326
I agree entirely.
However, the biggest thing to remember is that the marketing team is different from the actual team building the movie. A bad trailer does not automatically mean a bad movie, just a bad sign.
More to the point, the reason new Ghostbusters is going to be shit is not due to the trailer, and James's critique just happened to fall on the same week as the new trailer. It's going to be shit because it's a fucking reboot of a beloved set of films that has little to no real respect shown for it.
>>82966326
Nothing. Not necessarily. There have been just as many good movies with bad trailers as there have been the opposite.
Which is exactly as big a failing as the movie itself flat-out sucking, but let's not conflate the two.
>>82963619
it's a known quantity that both WB and Disney pay for reviews both good and bad.
BvS is shit on it's own but influencing public opinion is a thing that companies are proven to do.
>>82962015
Why is his art so offputting? Is it the soulless eyes? I think it's the eyes.
>>82967319
I like it.
I just would like more difference between noses and head formats, he can do these.
>>82967586
Some people like Shadman, too. Whatever tickles your pickle, I guess.
>>82966675
Turns out this asshole blocked me after saying that nobody in the world cares about my opinion, because I disagreed with him.
Class act, this fucker.
>>82962884
>I don't think you really need Bill Murray
KILL YOURSELF
>>82964736
What a cute bunny.
>>82966490
Why would you want to go see the movie the actors hate? The actors don't want you to see the shitty movie
>>82966490
>Maybe I will suddenly change my mind and in fact see this movie, just because they ineffectively yelled at the director one time
but that is the opposite of what the actors want
>>82962015
>person doesnt want to give their money to a product they dont feel is worth their money
so what's all the butthurt for
>>82969966
Because the cast is female, so not watching it is sexist
>>82964671
this trailer is pretty indicative of the tone. Take the original librarian scene, fairly spooky. Ends with a monster chasing the original trio out of the library to a fairly amusing score.
Library scene redo involves an overly long puke gag. That does not speak well to the quality of the new film.
>>82962015
Dat cameltoe
>>82966747
the thing with the nerd video is that on one level it's him stating that he also won't be making a video about it. no rants or bullshit session with mike or bootsy or anybody else, but instead he does a retrospective about the story of the failure of ghostbusters 3. maybe he's got the right idea, we all just need to wash our collective hands of it. don't talk about it, don't think about it. i may watch it on like a free hbo weekend but even then out of morbid curiosity, then let it flush down the shit movie crapper.
>Dan Shive not being against genderswapped ghostbusters.
I mean, what do you expect?
>>82966747
>respond to this argument if it were attached to something much more unpopular, like Donald Trump.
The Daily Beast already wrote an article connecting James Rolfe's video to Donald Trump and people are already parroting it.
>>82972194
took way too long for someone to notice that.
>>82972260
>it's real
Not what I meant though. I just mean this fucking braindead idea that no one has any right to say anything negative about a movie until they've seen the entire movie, and how that idea could potentially be compared to something like "you're not allowed to say anything negative about Trump until his presidency is over."
On a separate note I'm like legitly mad that this article exists.
>“If you already know you’re going to hate it, why give them your money?” Rolfe said, launching into a self-righteous dissertation on why the groundbreaking female-led remake was offensive to his sensibilities. “Maybe the actual movie is better than the trailer,” he admitted. “Maybe it’s good. It’s a possibility. I know I’m biased.”
Like the way this sentence is worded in a way to make it sound like he won't watch it because he has a bias against the female leads.
Goddamn I hate journalists so much. I hate them all. I don't care how edgy it makes me sound I just wish they were all fuckin dead.
>>82963296
I usually wonder how people like you have such a backwards ass train of thought, but then I saw your trip and it all made sense.
>>82965283
Y...you'll pay for making me feel these feeling Shive.
So unrelated question.
How many times has a reboot of a decades-old series actually been good?
>>82973136
21 Jump Street
>>82966674
Whether they are or they aren't I at least respect them for knowing the movies shit.
AVGN took two videos to spit out what Jay Sherman does in 1:20.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YigM-F4oSIE
>>82972540
They don't need to die they just need to be slapped for shit like that. Fucking awful spin. "Groundbreaking female-led remake" fucking awful and ignorant. I miss when there wasn't such a petty agenda attached to everything nowadays. Yeah it was a thing back then but it wasn't this prolific. This with me or against me attitude is such a fucking childish way to view the world.
>>82973236
That's it?
>>82973635
The Karate Kid with Jaden Smith was received pretty well.
>>82962015
Do people really trust Sony after they fucked up Spider-Man and Ratchet and Clank and Annie? And the hacked emails revealed them to be idiots?
How many times are you gonna let yourself get fucked by Sony?
>>82973136
The Thief of Bagdad
Sum of All Fears
Dredd
Planet of The Apes
James Bond
Batman
>>82963296
>but acting like the world is pulling your arm to the theater
To be fair, he does do movie reviews and has a large fanbase that says "you have to do this movie it'll be great!" So in a way they are trying to drag him in.
>>82973917
>>82974375
And this is just a small fraction of the dozens and dozens of reboots we get on a regular basis.
If Ghostbusters 2 was of dubious quality and had all the original cast, why would anyone look at a Ghostbusters reboot with an entirely new cast, not mentioning that all of them are women,and think it's a good idea?
>>82974129
Honestly, I'm more afraid of other film companies. What if, behind the scenes, WB and Disney are just as stupid?
Anyway, I lost my trust of movie companies long ago. There has to be a really good movie out there for me to actually see it in theaters. So far, that's been Pacific Rim, Mad Max, and the Captain America movies.
>>82974375
>Planet of The Apes
I hope to god you mean the new movies and not the Burton one.
>>82974375
The Thief of Bagdad
Sum of All Fears
I know Aladdin is the first one. What's the second? Just another Tom Clancy movie?
Remember when one licks her neutrona wand like a erect dick? I felt so empowered.
>>82962015
This argument is so easily flipped
>Why do people get so butthurt over people disliking *this* movie they haven't seen, yet had no problem with the people who saw the trailers and immediately thought the following movies were shit
Any Adam Sandler movie
Pluto Nash
Bayformers
Bayturtles
Food Fight
Strange Magic
Shark Tale
The Lone Ranger
John Carter
the new Robocop
Open Season
any Land Before Time after the first 2
any Tyler Perry movie
any movie with Movie in the title
any movie with Vs in the title
any movie based on a video game
But no. This movie with the horrible trailers, this is the movie we are just going to say "fuck it, it could be fun. Take my $15. Just fucking take it"
>>82975427
>"You're not going to watch Sausage Party because of the trailer and leaked script? Well, I for one won't be so immature to pass judgement until I've seen the final product."
>>82962015
>How long til Willis has a strip in DoA about this?
If Shortpacked was still running it'd be a year-long arc.
>>82966810
The Lego Movie and the entire Kung-fu Panda trilogy says otherwise, anon
>>82975427
>John Carter
I'm told was actually good, despite the shit marketing.
>>82977285
Lego Movie actually had, while not trailers persay, some very telling "behind the scenes" videos showing off some of the background gags and humor the movie would ultimately exceed.
>>82977271
Worth noting, even back before he jumped off the far-left deep end, Willis was a consistent fanboy and cheerleader for whatever the studios put out.
>>82973377
Man I love me some English for cab drivers.
>>82977378
It was decent, definitely better then the movies of the Divergent and hunger game series.
>>82966810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXrAYdSeWY8
>>82962015
I learned my lesson with Dawn of justice I didn't think that looked good saw it and it was worse then what I expected. I'm not gonna make that same mistake this time I'm just not seeing it.
>>82962015
>not a single clip, interview, or piece of information about Ghostbusters 2016 has shown even a little bit of promise
>the film has had dozens of chances to sell itself but has failed spectacularly every step of the way
>people are clinging onto the female protagonists so hard that they somehow haven't noticed how terrible the rest of the movie looks
>because of this, anyone ragging on this movie for any reason is currently being considered a misogynist manchild performing a hate crime and the two greatest mortal sins combined against the universe
Man, I haven't seen this much denial since I watched those videos defending the new PPG show.
>>82964613
Pretty on point. The tragedy is that if a man made any of these arguments, Tumblr would descend on him like a category five shitstorm.
>>82963822
"I" should take a secondary position to "You"
This bitch, tho
>>82963098
elliot, susan and sarah are, who knows about the others
>>82966490
I'm pretty sure the scenario just laid out here implies the actresses don't want people to see the movie.
>>82963854
He could by 6 if he went to Krystals. At least 4 at Sonics. Corndogs are cheap, even from fast food places.
>>82964809
Best part: the shirt was made for him by a female artist who was a GOOD FRIEND of his. He wore the shirt to get her free advertisement of product on TV, knowing his team was landing on the comet that day, and it would make the "here's something interesting" 3 minute filler on some news services.
The shirt itself was a colorful print with anime style women of various nice body types (thin to plump) in lingerie shooting mac 10s. IE, women being feminine strong and powerful, the very thing all the enraged SJWs claim is never presented.
>>82964894
That would be most of them. Most movies suck to being mediocre, with the very best scenes or elements of the movie in the trailers.
New trailer confirms that the plot leaked on Reddit is true. It's just as bad as expected. Least the critics should thrash it.
>>82964928
AVGN is, what, 10 years old?
Like he remarked in his latest episode
>I'm retro now.
>>82977378
>>82977735
>>82975427
having seen and enjoyed John Carter I feel the need to point out that it suffers from the usual Abrams writing foibles (I.E. desperately clinging to every mild bit of backstory ambiguity in an attempt to make the writer seem more intelligent than he really is. Dragging out reveals of the aforementioned details, focus on style over substance, etc.)
I mean Planetary Romance novels tended to end with giant gladiatorial battles and crap so they weren't exactly intellectual snorefests to begin with but don't go into the movie expecting a tight narrative. Watch it if you want a forgettable scifi romp that you can steal ideas from for your tabletop game next week.
>>82983261
>Least the critics should thrash it.
And be called sexist? Not gonna happen. This isn't a movie, this is a test to see who's side you on: The progressive social justice liberal side or Adolf Hitler MRA
>>82964613
>I don't recall ever seeing anything like this
She should see the like to dislike ratio on the Total War: Warhammer trailer for Warriors of Chaos
>Likes: nearly 4,000
>Dislikes: nearly 50,000
>>82966747
>I would bet you anything he wouldn't. Or at the very least he's going to convince himself it was good. Even if it's the complete fucking pile of garbage it'll obviously be, he's going to tiptoe around it and come up with some fucking stupid deflection like "but it was a fun movie!" or "everyone's being too harsh on it!"
Given how the comic treats the Prequels, A number of the Stark Trek Movies and MoS, I really doubt that.
>>82966675
>152k tweets
>36k followers
>2.5k tweets
>183k followers
top kek
>>82974375
>Planet of The Apes Remake
>Good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMW-3xz6GCQ
>>82964613
>if you go to see Ghostbusters, you'll be responsible for the Back to the Future remake
>Back to the Future remake
Oh God. It's coming, isn't it.
>>82965283
I wish he wasn't so ripped.
I'd like him to be a nice, smooth boy, not some secret bodybuilder.
>>82984997
Gale and Zemeckis control the rights and are very against it. They can't make that one until both are dead.
Fun fact: AVGN and James' other video projects are among the top 20 most male-dominated audiences in all of media covered by IMDB (ratios as high as 97% male). In other words no one who actually watches AVGN cares.
>>82964798
Yep, anyone within a designated victim category who doesn't agree with the victimization nsrrative is written off as having internalized racism or internalized sexism or whatever.
>>82965499
>but I think it's actually just as much the doing of "fandom culture," which I'm beginning to see as an extreme plague to all creativity.
This might seem a little out there, but I'm convinced that fandoms fill part of the void that the decline of religion has created. I mean, I'm atheist myself, but I can see that people want cultural continuity in their lives from childhood through old age, and some kind of esoteric (but universal and acessable) knowledge to socialize over.
>>82965650
>when TV IPs die, they die for good
The return of X-Files might change this
>>82962015
Is there even a joke in this strip? This is some lazy shit.
>>82965081
I'll just say, as a third party to this debate, that a good trailer could promote a good or bad movie just as well as a bad trailer can. However, no one should be under any obligation to see a movie that they do not want to see. Hell, a critic who is assigned to review a movie in exchange for money should be able to refuse.
This new Ghostbusters will pop up on DVD, BD, Netflix, Hulu, TV, Crackle, torrents, and streaming sites far and wide. It's not like seeing it in the theater will be the end-all statement on this whole debacle.
>Man shitting on my plate.gif
This whole fucking thing is "you don't know it's bad till you've paid money for it" and only proves that the average consumer (on the net anyway) is a grade-A fucking idiot.
>>82965083
>watchmen
Fuck you. I am so sick of these retards who say it wasn't a good enough adaptation. I have never seen a cinematic adaptation of anything more faithful.
>WOW HOW DO YOU KNOW NORM OF THE NORTH IS GOING TO BE SHIT IT ISN'T EVEN OUT YET
>JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT YOU THINK ALVAN AND THE CHPMUNKS: THE SQUEAKQUEL IS GOING TO BE BAD? THE MOVIE ISNT OUT YET JUST GIVE IT A CHANCE
>HOLY FUCK WHY AREN'T YOU GOING TO SEE JACK AND JILL? THE MOVIE ISN'T OUT YET HOW COULD YOU KNOW IT'S BAD, I BET YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE IT BECAUSE ADAM SANDLER IS JEWISH YOU FUCKING NAZI
>he didn't see Smurfs just because the trailer was bad and everyone said it was bad.
Man you all missed out on the greatest movie of the century. Film scholars decades from now will look back and mourn the franchise that could have changed the world.
>>82976485
Actually the trailer is alright, at least the central joke (it's a kid's movie- SURPRISE, IT'S NOT!) is done more or less competently. Which is why it's getting so much attention- they didn't completely screw the pooch, people who can't read between the lines don't see any problem with it.
Late for the thread.
AVGN and James as James have provided me with much content over the years. I dislike movies as a whole, and I'm not a gamer (though obviously I played much of retro games way back then). I watch his AVGN videos and his movie related stuff because I can tell he LOVES both. I can feel his emotions within his words and how passionate and honest he is about it all. And I stress that I give no fucks for movies or live action. The man is a legend and he deserves that status. He's enjoyable to watch, funny and nowhere near the current clusterfuck of reviewers and gamers that plague the Netz and which disgust me.
His refusal to watch the new Ghostbusters is a simple and effective refusal of a man who has his tastes, his opinions and metric fuckloads of information about the cinema as such. You cannot attack his position, only respect it. To accuse him of soggy knees and similar feminist drivel is not only to miss the point completely, but to insult him. Yes, this is a direct insult to James. The "people" who are "outraged" over his legitimate statements and given reasons probably know fuck all about the cinema and were never fans of the Ghostbusters as he is.
I stand by James and hope that his other fans do too. This shit has gone too far and is now firmly in the stalinist territory. Also, Hollywood wants you to watch this crap, and they will make more crap if you watch it, locking us in a downward spiral.
Think you fucks. You either take a stand or bend over for the pozzed cock of liberalism. There is no middle option. James said nothing about politics and such, but the feminists and white knights have dragged his purely movie related opinion into the political sphere, and thus nothing is off limits.
>>82987899
You know, it IS possible to be liberal and still think the new Ghostbusters movie is going to be shit. Also:
>Stalinist
>pozzed
Are you sure you wouldn't like to fuck back off to /pol/?
>>82964201
>log out of twitter
>screenshot
>no one bats an eye.
>>82988271
>responding to child molesters
>>82988441
Good point. It's just that he started off so well, then he reverted back into classic Kaziklu crap
>tfw you're old enough to remember when everyone hated Kaziklu, until he realised storytiming Serenity would get people to like him
>>82988460
Honestly if this wasn't 4chan I wouldn't bring up the sins of the past, but when people want to try to be e-celebs they get should everything that comes with it.
