Just a reminder that Arrow reduced DC's equivalent of Black Panther to the tech support's best gay friend.And not even the manly Freddy Mercury kind of gay.
He's a genderswapped Felicity. I can't believe they just cloned her character.
>>82928218
At least it isn't Agents of Shitty, Horrible, Idiotic Trash
I don't even like AOS. But there is nothing worse on TV then Felicity.
>>82928255
Nope, just days of our lives with a guy occasionally dressing up in green leather.
Michael Holt was a fucking treasure and it's a shame attempts to bring him further into the spotlight have faltered.
He should have been the New 52 JL's 7th member, rather than Cyborg.
Remember when Felicity killed tens of thousands of people? Well, let's watch her use a screen saver to hack the gibson and deal with family drama shenanigans!
>>82928255
To be honest I always thought AOS sucked. But this season of AOS has been better than season 3 and 4 of Arrow.
>>82928255
But even they are doing better.
>>82928461
Wait what? Are you serious? Please tell me she got repercussions for that shit. And screen saver?
>>82928703
She felt sad about it for like two minutes.
When they were banging away at the keyboards to show their elite hacking skills the computer screens were just basically screen savers.
>>82928743
Which screensaver, flying toasters? Still that sounds retarded. But more importantly, ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!?! Oliver gets dragged through the mud for fucking lying and Felicity, the fan pandering goddess who can do no wrong, gets a handwave for nuking a town?!
>>82928743
>She felt sad about it for like two minutes.
Haven't seen the episode yet, but yeah it doesn't surprise me even in the slightest that this is how much time they dedicated to what should be a crippling emotional effect, that won't even be referenced in the future.
But let me guess they still have atleast 3-5 emotional scenes of far less importance to fill out the shows run time, that pertain to nothing but small lies, misunderstandings, or magic brain control pills.
>>82928867
>But let me guess they still have atleast 3-5 emotional scenes of far less importance to fill out the shows run time, that pertain to nothing but small lies, misunderstandings, or magic brain control pills.
Well,it did have Felicity's Mom-Dad drama...
>>82928218
I jumped into the episode for about three minutes and it was just Curtis "Not Michael" Holt tooting Felecity and her dad's horn like a cartoon cheerleader. It's very disheartening because that's all he's here for.
>>82928341
I mean, they gave him his own solo at the start of the new52, and not cyborg. so they obviously had faith in him. too bad it went nowhere.
>>82929053
With some of the worst art of the launch, and an unproven writer. Also, no support whatsoever from larger titles or crossovers.
This wasn't the worst episode of the season. It was the episode that made me sure I'm quitting after next week though.
Dreadful, just dreadful. The plot isn't the only thing that went to shit. The production values are so bad compared to what they used to be.
What exactly is the point of Lance anymore? He pretty much just spent the episode sat in the bunker twiddling his thumbs? Yet Uncle Guggie decided to kill Laurel because there were "no stories left to tell with her".
I tried to overlook the declining quality, I defended the show to my friends who quit after S3 but I just don't even see the point anymore.
The only thing that would get me to consider watching S5 is a Slade return. And looking at Manu Bennett's Twitter feed that isn't going to be happening anytime soon.
>>82929852
Also gotta give top marks the the woman in the flashbacks for possibly the worst acting performance anyone has ever given on this show.
>>82928703
Well, it was either let the nuke hit a town near DC or move it a few miles away and let it hit another town. Can't move it to the ocean, nope. And yeah, she sad faced for *A* scene and then it was never spoken of again.
>>82929852
Does anyone really care that Ruvè is dead?
>>82928218
I don't care. Arrow ended when ollie got stabbed through the heart and fell off a cliff.
Hey remember that time Felicity made Ray stop saving the city because Oliver was in danger?
>>82928218
>Watch last night's episode.
>Parts where Felicity isn't involved are really stellar.
>These scenes remind me why I liked Arrow in the first place.
>Parts where Felicity is involved.
>Pure trash, can't even stomach them.
>What have they done to you, Holt? You deserved better than this.
>This hacking shit is so cheesy. How are they hacking when the computers are showing a screen saver? Why is there drama between Donna? Why does Donna get a pass for lying but Felicity and her dad, even Quentin, don't.
>The island flashbacks for this year are absolutely dreadful.
If only I was in charge.
We live in a world where in a green arrow show: Black Canary has been killed off and a very minor Firestorm supporting character is the main love interest and her mother who is an OC is a series regular. Let that sink in.
I will give Arrow two more shot
Next week the finale for closure, the season 5 premier for a chance to not fuck me over for old times sake
I've finally had enough of this shit bros. It's my turn to liberate myself.
I still like him. My only disappointment is that he's assisting Felicity instead of replacing her. They need one upbeat person on that team.
>>82928218
>DC's equivalent of Black Panther
You're a dumbass.
>>82929104
>an unproven writer
Oh Anon, I wish Eric "burning vagina woman" Wallace had been simply unproven.
>>82931590
If you havent quit now already youre a lost cause
>>82930468
Or just disarmed the warhead and kill maybe 5 people when it crushes their house.
I dropped this show when Felicity beat paraplegia to shit on Olivers message to his son.
Did I miss literally anything?
THIS DUDE IS SUPPOSED TO BE MR TERRIFIC???? GOD FUCKING DAMNIT
I never caught his full name and just didn't care enough to look it up. What the fucking shit, Arrow
>>82934279
She killed thousands of people and the show treats it like she ran over someones dog by accident. So how the fuck do we top this one?
>>82934335
>THIS DUDE IS SUPPOSED TO BE MR TERRIFIC
It's going to get worse anon. There is a promotional image and felicity has the t-spheres.
>>82934351
So it seems that I missed Laurel shilling on her deathbed and Felicity blowing up a city but nobody caring?
Jesus. I was watching Arrow kind of like sharknado for most of S4, glad I dropped that shit.
>>82928218
It's so fucked OP. We get pissed when they race swap and keep telling them "just use already establish minority characters" and they do and then they change them up too and miss the whole goddamn point.
And Mr. Terrific is one of my favorite characters. Loved his Steve Jobs meets Kayne West shit in Futures End.
>>82928255
>He's salty because his threads keep deleted.
>>82934459
I love how the Black Canary mantle is utterly meaningless
>>82934648
Meanwhile the Flash is making black Wally West work.
>>82931637
He's basically Felicity 2.0, and that's perfectly fine for me since Felicity was great when she was the comic relief.
It's even better too, because Ollie won't be seduced by his homolust.
>>82934459
>Felicity blowing up a city but nobody caring?
Felicity cared. She had a frowny face for almost half a scene.
>>82934797
Really? I missed last episode, did he stop being an ungrateful annoying fuck?
>>82934890
>did he stop being an ungrateful annoying fuck?
Massively. He became grateful as shit.
>I'm the guy who didn't go see my Mother
>I'm the guy that was taking peoples cars in illegal street races
>The Flash gave me a second chance
>I want to be worth saving
>I want to help people
That's a rundown of his arc.
>>82928218
>based Greg Berlanti in charge of directing next week's season finale
FELICITY WILL DIE
PREPARE YOUR BONERS
>>82934890
Yeah hes in full Flash fanboy mode now
>>82931700
All black ppl are the same
Just a reminder that Merlyn will be in charge of H.I.V.E. by the season finale.
>>82934962
He also grand theft auto'd Black Siren with his Wally Flash Costume colored car.
>>82935105
Then at next season's mid Ollie will cut his other arm and they throw him out of HIVE too
>>82928549
Arrow S2>>> current AoS > Arrow S1 >>>>> S1 and S2 AoS >>>>>> Arrow S3 >>>>> (etc) >> Arrow S4
>>82935213
Yeah I didn't want to spoil that lol
>>82928703
What the hell was she supposed to get? I understand someone needs to feel bad for that shit but when the other outcome was millions you saved more than you killed and sometimes you just have to live with the knowledge that people were gonna die no matter what I mean Christ it was a fucking nuke.
>>82936329
lol
>>82936329
Perfect
>>82934567
> Loved his Steve Jobs meets Kayne West
This is a perfect discription
>>82928218
>manly Freddy Mercury
Freddy was extremely faggy.
>hacker presses backspace
>felicities lightbulbs start exploding
haha
>felicity and her mom hate liars
>they are the biggest liars of them all
quite literally poetry
>>82935105
>>82935214
>Malcolm gets black knighted by Oliver as he keeps trying to take over evil organisations.
You know that might actually get me to keep watching.
Why is Merlyn still alive?
Why do they keep letting him live? It's not even a magnificent bastard situation. Black Driver should have just killed him.
>>82935213
>tfw he didn't double tap that bitch
>>82940925
Because he's easy filler. Throw him in a scene and recycle his dialogue to kill five minutes when you don't know what to do.
So normally I hate Felicity as much as the next guy, but I don't get what all the hate is about here. Clearly she couldn't disarm the nuke, and she couldn't just re-route the missile which was about to touchdown into the ocean. She did the best she could and tricked it into thinking it was somewhere else.
I mean, this season is far from S2, but I still think it is much, much, MUCH better than the shit that S3 was. The villain is at least intimidating, I enjoyed the Andy Diggle arc, and these last few episodes Felicity hasn't been shitting up as badly. There has been too much plot for the drama to get in the way.
>>82945406
It's just people venting their anger. She did the best anyone could've done.
It makes me happy they at least some of them haven't forgotten how to make a good show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uHwlwVJbVo
>>82945406
But why couldn't she have done these other things? A choice between killing and killing is no choice at all, and as the CW shows always try to hammer home, there's always another way.
It's just bad writing, pure and simple, to make people feel bad for Felicity but where she will suffer no repercussions.
http://www.lian-yu.ga/
2m and counting...
>>82948372
2m30s... Already starting to think. like. Anarky.
Mommy;_;
>>82948401
5m... Nose bleeding.
I can make it...
Fifteen minutes in. I'm starting to hear the words out of order.
That can't be good.
>>82948720
I failed you Ollie.
Forgive me.
>>82948372
Bailed after 35 seconds. I have failed this city.
I'm so glad this show's ratings are plummeting.
Anyone else reading that Leddit post about the four way crossover for the Arrow comments?
>>82935542
Your missing the point. The fact is when it comes to Felicity there is no wieght nor reprocussions. She was crippled for 3 episodes for god sake. If this were Oliver, it would be a season long turmoil. Her? She'll get over it in 1 episode and everyone will praise her
>>82931754
>burning vagina woman
I need to know what this is in reference to
>>82929943
She's really bad. Her heel turn has zero impact because they failed to give her a personality to begin with
>>82934962
So what's his and Jessie's deal? Are they gonna turn out to have dormant powers next week?
I mean they gotta do something with the fact that the second particle accelerator hit them
>>82940925
It makes sense in the story, he may be bastard but he's Thea's father. Plus John Barrowman is the best actor on this show
>>82950701
>It makes sense in the story
No it doesn't. He constantly is fucking shit up for the squad. Darhk killed Laurel and everyone freaks out and tells Ollie to kill him. Merlyn should get the same treatment regardless of who his daughter is.
>>82949512
It finally fell under 2 million!
>>82950835
I honestly think they could cancel it after next season. Not worth having Arrow sitting around and rotting when you can replace it with a show in the same universe that would have better ratings.
>>82950835
Don't pop open the champagne just yet - it was preempted in Chicago.
>>82951146
That has happened before without causing such a low figure.
>>82951030
You'd think they'd realize the issue and fucking remove felicity.
>>82951517
It's not just Felicity at this point. The narrative has been lost. The show has had no identity since it abandoned the list of names.
Everyone loves Felicity. And deep inside all of you love her too. Do not fight her love, do not resist her power, just kneel before Felicity, a true queen of /co/!
I hate how this season wasted H.I.V.E
It's a cool concept in theory; SPECTRE ripoff with a master martial artist who also knows how to use magic leading it.
Save me, /co/!
>>82950551
A woman with molten powers killed a man by fucking him, and turning her vagina into lava while fucking him.
>>82929852
>"no stories left to tell with her".
JSA will save Curtis and Laurel /co/, you just have to believe
>>82930996
I swear. One of the scenes it was:
Felicity
Felicity's mom
Felicity's dad
Felicity's gay best friend
all in a room arguing while the rest of the team DID SHIT
>>82928218
>Freddy Mercury
>Manly
Nigga was one step below Elton John.
>>82928218
>>82935275
>Based Tommy
>Based Moira
>Merlyn wasn't the overused shit he became
>Merlyn was a great villain
>Black Driver and Felicity didn't suck yet
>They hadn't ruined Deathstroke with the Bad-Guy-Drug yet
Arrow S2 sucked for the latter half. Looking at the complete season, S1 was objectively better than S2.
>>82953644
The guy who now plays Blaine on iZombie played one of the few villains of the week on Arrow that I like.
He's also a better "quirky but evil" character than Damien Darhk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL3jf2vt8KM
That is the type of actor they should have cast for Jimmy Olsen in Supergirl.
Can we swap them? The Jimmy actor might do a good Mr Terrific.
I hate Generic Cool Bald Black Guy Jimmy so fucking much.
>>82953841
Jimmy is pretty beta on Supergirl, man. He can't handle any kind of problem in his personal life by himself.
>>82953752
S1 Arrow was best Arrow
>>82953873
he was just positioning Kara to get some side chick action
she had to blow it with his main chick. bitch fucked up
Arrow is the first show I've ever seen with fans actually enjoying its failure.
Here, tumblr, Reddit and several other forums just seem to be taking so much pleasure in its failure.
>>82953948
Never watched the later seasons of Dexter, did you?
>>82954002
If you only watch the first four seasons of Dexter, and do your best to forget season 3, I'd say it's a pretty great show.
Just ending it on the season 4 finale makes for a better ending than the end we eventually got after several horrible seasons.
>>82954002
Nope.
How bad was it in comparison?
>>82954002
I thought Dexter fans had the "delusional battered wife" mindset and thought "it's gonna get better. It will turn around." I don't remember many people wanting to see it burn.Also unrelated, but I wish Darhk was like Isaak. That could've made this season at least watchable.
>It’s not that this episode, taken on its own, was the worst ever. There have been worse ones, believe me. It’s just that the show can’t muster any heart anymore. Sure, Felicity is a bit teary about the most devastating attack on American soil in the history of everything, but by and large people are all fine. Her long-estranged parents are bickering as though the only thing that matters is their crap and Felicity’s relationship to them. Curtis is jolly even though he “can’t stop watching” the news.
>This is jarring. It’s a dissonance between the reality created by the show and the behavior and actions of the show’s characters so stark and implausible that I just…I just can’t. I just can’t even.
>Good lord, I’ve never written those words before, and even doing it ironically makes me question my judgment here. Why am I still watching Arrow? Has it just become a job? Just a chore? Just a…test of my willingness to endure stupidity and terrible writing.
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/#54d1a43b40b9
>>82954044
The last season was genuinely one of the worst seasons of non-reality TV ever made. And adding insult to injury was the least season of Breaking Bad on TV at the same time, so the damage was doubly bad when seeing the comparison.
The fanbase was losing its fucking mind, it was incredible. Imagine the Arrow S4 anger magnified by a thousandfold.
>>82954045
Not in the last season, the damage was done.
>>82954128
Dexter seasons rankings:
2 > 4 > 1 >>>> 6 > 7 > 3 > 8 > 5
>>82954044
>everyone is a bloody idiot including the main character
>Dexter's invincibility is upped and now he is never in any danger
>contrived coincidences to make things happen/keep Dexter from being caught because the show
>nothing matters in the long term, all consequences are to have an illusion of things happening and have weak resolution
>shit one-dimensional villains (not counting aforementioned Isaak Sirko, he was one of the few good things about later Dexter, and even then his death was extremely anticlimactic.)
>shitty shoehorned love story with the love interest curing Dexter of his sociopathy and urge to kill, being easily forgiven and treated like an innocent person we're supposed to sympathize with despite being a remorseless serial killer
I remember how a religion nut serial killer left a painting on the wall with Dexter's face on it. Since it would raise many questions about why a serial killer would care so much about some lab geek to draw him as a biblical creature (can't remember which), all the cops patiently wait for Dexter to enter the building with the painting in it, so he could silently drill it off the wall without anyone noticing and guess what NO ONE NOTICES A THING.
That's quality writing you can expect from Dexter.
1 >2 >4 >3 > first five episodes of season 7 > 5 > 6 > the rest of season 7 > dying in prison after being beaten and anally raped>>>>>>>>8
>>82954182
> 8 > 5
You're kidding, right? I don't even like 5, but it's nowhere near as bad as 8.
8 is perfect for reenacting this scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bds_F9KZ7vc
>>82954313
I put 5 below 8 almost purely because they gave us Lumen in the season right after Rita died.
Honestly, I love the last season of Dexter. It was hilarious how little fucks they gave about anything.
Here Dexter is subtly stalking a kill victim, he spends about an hour staring through the window at him, in broad daylight, while wearing a pastel coloured shirt.
>>82931700
He's the closest thing that they have you moron.
>>82950678
>>82955302
if anything he's DC's Reed Richards, a genius scientist who invents stuff to solve problems. But Holt is also a great athlete and moral center of whatever group he's in so...really far from the version we have on Arrow.
>>82928218
I would like it if he becomes Mr. Terrific. I like the actor and don't think he's too "sissy", whatever that nonsense means. I just hope they do it right, not some cop out. He should have the spheres floating about and a fucking T on his face. But if he's like in the comics he's easily the most capable dude in the show and that probably won't happen.
>>82929943
>>82950609
I literallt forgot she existed
Rememver when we wete hype for zatanna
>>82928341
Cyborg basically only gets pushed because the Teen Titans original cartoon was so popular, and they needed a black character on the team for diversity's sake when they decided to have Hal be the main GL in New 52 (since John Stewart was their go-to token minority.)
Mr. Terrific would have been the better choice for sure, but then everyone would just go "who" and Cyborg has more fans in general.
>>82928218
>DC's equivalent of Black Panther
That's not aquaman
>>82954043
Fun fact: some of the same people responsible for late Dexter are responsible for current Arrow.
>>82958411
Really?
You know, it makes so much sense it's strange I never looked it up.
Arrow is bogged down by some of the same problems as the late Dexter.
>>82928218
234324
>>82928218
>DC's equivalent of Black Panther
>Because they are both black and smart.
Yeah, fuck you showfag.
Mr Terrific isn't really like Black Panther. He's more like Batman if Batman was fun.
>>82953201
This Anon is not making this up. This is an actual thing that appeared in a real comic.
The Mr. Terrific solo series was doomed from the start.
