Wait hol up, isn't SW as responsible for Ultron as Tony is? In AoU, the Avengers try to steal the scepter back, and the mission from Hydra's POV was to not have that happen, so they unleash Quicksilver and SW. Didn't SW go against the mission by straight up letting Tony take the scepter. Granted she probably didn't care about the mission at that point, but she couldn't have blown his brain up or ripped him apart?
So, her reason for not doing so boils down to wanting to see him suffer and others suffer by proxy? Seems right, seeing what she did to Banner.
Yes. She was a saddistic psychopath in AoU, but Hawkeye liked her titties so now she's an Avenger.
SHE WAS A GOOD GIRL, DINDU NUFFIN
Also she's Markus and McFeely waifu so she's not responsible
>>82849110
She's also responsible but not as direct as Tony. All she did was giving him a bad dream. Tony did everything else on his own. Wanda can't control minds. Tony even dismissed it being part of the influence and Wanda herself was surprised Tony made a killer robot. She just wanted to fuck up Tony.
>>82849110
Granted, but Tony still thought it was a good idea to make a robot clone of himself.
Also, hi Bendis.
>"but she couldn't have blown his brain up or ripped him apart?"
confirmed for never having read a comic book.
>>82849110
>So, her reason for not doing so boils down to wanting to see him suffer and others suffer by proxy?
Yes, she tells Ultron almost exactly this:
>Ultron: "You let Stark take the scepter."
>Wanda: "I didn't expect...*gestures toward Ultron*...but I saw Stark's fear. I knew it would control him, make him self-destruct."
>>82849237
It's a good thing this the MCU Scarlet Witch and these characters not the ones from the comics, huh?
>>82849110
She figured he'd quit or piss off and drive away his friends or something, not make a killer deathbot.
It IS her fault, but in an indirect no way that should have resulted in that way.
It's like saying Killian is all Tony's fault because he was mean to him that one time. It is, but it's not like Tony should go through life assuming that anyone he pisses off will turn into a super villain.
>>82849237
>>82849260
Well if probability control was strong enough, she could have made him have a stroke or a heart attack.
It's all about what 'could' happen.
Like with those Ultron bots. A robot like that there's always a chance they could suddenly fail and say explode, faulty wiring and such. That's how it works. It's not impossibile that those robots exploded, just very improbable.
Just like in Civil War, we see her mess with the Vision's density control. There was a chance there was a malfunction that would make him super dense. Same idea.
>>82849260
So you're honestly dissapointed that they didn't blow up RDJ's brain (who is also their biggest cash cow) to prevent the plot from advancing in the more comic-booky way?
>>82849361
>It is, but it's not like Tony should go through life assuming that anyone he pisses off will turn into a super villain.
When you live in a comic book world, you really should. That's just being genre savvy. Unfortunetly it doesn't work. Even if you're the nicest mother fucker ever, dollars to donuts there's just some guy out there who hates you just by virtue of being you. And surprise surprise, he probably has metal tentacles welded to his back.
>>82849383
I didn't say or imply that. Just pointing out a sort of oversight, anon.
She's been responsible for some of the really bad shit in the MCU.
>Makes Tony freak out and build Ultron
>Makes Hulk rampage
>Helps Ultron
>Makes Vision shoot down Rhodey
Some shit's going to go down eventually.
>>82849110
Too bad wandafags aka the new annoying cucks spawned by a movie ignores pretty much everything she did because muh thick waifu
>>82849466
>Makes Vision shoot down Rhodey
That one was just unfair. She isn't accountable for Vision's boners.
>>82849110
yeah she gave him a push, and don't forget she is also the one to blame for the accords because the UN got triggered by the explotion in Lagos
What Stark did:
-Was already making Ultron and an Iron Legion or robots to police the world for him with Banner
-Was already after Loki's staff
-Knew what Loki's staff was capable of, saw one of his friends brainwashed into killing with it
-Hooked the mind gem up to his robots anyway with intention of unlocking AI, resulting in murderbot.
What Wanda did:
-Made Stark scared, but did not mind control him or put the thought of making Ultron into his head
-Let Stark take the thing he was already taking
-Also scared Black Widow, Cap, and Thor, and none of them created killer robots
-Should honestly be blamed for the Hulk smashing a city thing, not the Ultron thing
>>82849588
She can control his density and people's minds, for all we know Wanda could very well control his boner.exe.
>>82849968
She does, but not consciously.
Now stop trying to stir the pot Bendis. Go back to masturbating to Kitty Pride and Luke Cage. That always calms ya down.
>>82849930
>-Should honestly be blamed for the Hulk smashing a city thing
This desu. Even her brother was like "lets get out of here" and she was like "no, I vant the big one"
>>82849157
To be fair her family was killed by weapons made by Stark when he didn't give a shit about making money off people killing each other. So once again Tony's previous actions leads to problems in the future.
>>82849110
Don't forget that she basically gave Ultron free reign to do whatever he wanted in the middle of her town. And they make it apparent that the twins are something of a locally recognized authority in Sokovia, so really the entire issue of the city getting ripped from the earth is more of an issue with local mismanagement, so the Avengers shouldn't be accountable for the city at all.
>>82849984
I'm honestly just excited to see what Scarlet Witch does when she goes full crazy. I'm expectingsoft reboot with F4 and mutants in ~2023.
>>82850063
Bendis! No! Bad Bendis! Get down from there! You get the squirty squirts for that!
You gotta discipline your Bendis like a cat. He gets a bad idea, you spray him with water.
>>82850017
>I got raped
>that excuses me raping people
Nah. She was perfectly fine with indirectly putting others in danger for her personal gain (revenge), so she's pretty similar to Stark there. I mean shit, she's making a guy who she thinks is dangerous to normal people, into someone potentially more unstable and dangerous. And what do you know, the end results is dozens of innocent deaths.
All in the hopes that he would "destroy himself", which also happens to ultimately fail.
You can just imagine some Sokovians being killed by Ultron drones being exactly in the same position she was with her brother, except Ultron drones don't have "Maximoff" written on them.
>>82849110
Not really, Tony had already been trying to make Ultron, he probably would have done much the same thing had she done nothing.
>people give SW a free pass because she's an attractive woman
>>82850017
Seriously Stark, why did you put your name all over your bombs? Nobody will think "I will dedicate my life to destroying this bomb's designer" unless you slap a logo on it.
>>82850052
>they make it apparent that the twins are something of a locally recognized authority in Sokovia
Do they? When Pietro tells the cops to evacuate the city they don't give a shit, he has to shoot a damn rifle in the police station for anyone to pay attention.
>>82850139
That's just them being shit at their job.
The cops also stand down as soon as the twins show up to the fight, not counting the one guy who grazes Pietro (once again, shit at their job.)
>>82850132
Honestly there's no reason besides for audience and plot convenience.
It's even more egregorious in IM1 when the terrorists don't even bother putting a coat of paint on their Stark weaponry, pretty much asking for someone to notice it and fuck with their weapons' supplier.
Not that Tony couldn't have recognized his own weapons, but this way literally anyone can see they're Stark weapons and make a fuss about it.
>>82850160
I'd say that's more related to them being super-powered and thus better equiped to deal with the threat. The cops don't interfere with any of the other Avengers either.
>>82850109
The Ultron project didn't involve an alien AI until after Wanda mindfucked Tony.
If Tony had kept going for it, Ultron would have been run by Jarvis/Vision or another AI like Friday.
>>82849988
What a slut!
>>82850187
meant that for >>82850112
>>82850187
Yeah the vision made Tony desperate to complete Ultron fast and loose. I'm sure he'd have still wanted to use the scepter, but maybe he wouldn't have felt the need to manipulate Thor into staying to have enough time to work of the scepter if he didn't feel as paranoid.
>>82850139
I think that anon's referring to that one deleted scene where Ultron gets the kid to get Pietro and Wanda. How he confused it for "local authority", I don't know
>>82850017
This reasoning always grinds my gears
Like just because stark made weapons automatically makes him responsible?? Literally no one wanted to kill mikhail kalashnikov, even though he designed the gun responsible for probably the most deaths and maimings combined
>>82849824
Ok the explosion in Lagos was definitely not her fault
>>82850302
this.. or Oppenheimer
Ok ok
So how long until someone starts posting Scarlet cheesecake?
>>82850363
>HulkfuckingWanda.jpg
>>82850328
she fucked up with good intentions
just like Tony fucked up with Ultron, Tony wanted to create peace, he didn't want to make a killer robot
>>82850302
Wait wasn't there a weapons' manufacturer that got killed by his own weapons?
For some reason I feel like I've seen that somewhere but I really don't know a lot of names.
>Samuel Colt died of gout
Well, not him then.
On Kalashnikov though
>"My heartache unbearable same insoluble question: if my rifle deprive people of life, and therefore I, Mikhail Kalashnikov, ninety-three years old, the son of a peasant, and Orthodox Christian according to his faith, responsible for the death of people, let even an enemy?"
Anyway you won't see a lot of movies going the full "guns don't kill people" these days, and really it makes for a more interesting character arc if the manufacturer feels responsible somehow. I don't remember, how was Lord of War on that?
>>82850353
Another guy who has expressed guilt over creating a tool to kill.
https://youtu.be/lb13ynu3Iac
>>82850328
Agreed. Crossbones would've taken out Capt, SW, and plenty of people on the ground that were nearby in that explosion. The fact they hold themselves accountable even though they clearly were not the cause of a problem is what makes them heroes.
>>82850302
You've gotta take into account Stark's public persona. He was PROUD of how murderously deadly those weapons he makes are. He probably held orgies in celebration for how much better each generation of weapon became.
When Pietro and Wanda think of Tony Stark or that bomb they think of just how goddamn smug and happy he was about absolutely everything that for them was unrelenting terror.
Tony also doesn't/didn't really feel that responsible for what his weapons do. The first movie was him feeling responsible for his weapons being distributed to terrorists since he never paid attention to wtf was going on in his company. AOU is when he starts to understand the concept of collateral damages are people too.
>>82849110
I want to rip those boots off her feet so bad.
>>82849129
>but Hawkeye liked her titties so now she's an Avenger.
In fairness, her titties were fuckin' nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z7bZOJV3v8
What does /co/ think?
>>82852383
Give it to me straight anon, on a scale of 1 to 10 how plebby is it?
>>82851963
She needed more barefoot scenes tbqh.
>>82852394
As plebby as a 3 minute video explaining the history of an overpowered character that has been killed by a hack can be.
>>82852437
>skipping Busiek era
I'M MAD
>>82852383
CUTE
>>82852383
She sounds like she studied Wikipedia for a whole 5 minutes to find out the history of her character.
>>82853349
JUST LIKE US
>>82853349
You seriously think she wrote that script herself?
>>82853349
Sounds like95% of /co/
>>82849968
>people's minds
Wrong, she can affect them but she have no control. She can't give you orders, just show you stuff and hope you react the way way she expects.
Apparently she can't even see what she's making you see.
>>82850127
>people give Iron Man a free pass because he's RDJ
>>82850127
>implying you wouldn't
>>82850127
Can you really blame them?
>>82850372
>>82849129
Hi Bendis.
>>82849244
She also tells hawkeye its all her fault
Wanda is certainly the cause of problems in every movie she is in.
>>82858971
She did literally nothing wrong in Civil War.
>>82856695
delete this
>>82859006
She did everything wrong.
>>82859594
If it wasn't for her, even more people, and Cap would have died.
>>82858971
They're setting her up forHouse of M, where she will indeed do everything, and more, wrong.
>>82859616
She could have easily avoided killing anyone.
She could have stayed with Vision.
She could have not distracted Vision when Tony was calling for him.
>>82859675
>She could have easily avoided killing anyone.
By throwing the explosion upwards so the shrapnel hits even more people and further away?
>She could have stayed with Vision.
Tony could have told her why she was locked up in there.
People don't take it well when you keep them hostage.
>She could have not distracted Vision when Tony was calling for him.
Is it her fault that Vision has a robo-boner for her?
>>82859715
>Is it her fault that Vision has a robo-boner for her?
>That scene with the paprika
Yes.
>>82859741
>That scene with the paprika
What?
>>82859766
When Vision was trying to cook and she's acting all cute and seductive.
>>82859835
Vision should stop being so horny then.
>>82853349
Because she totally wrote that segment herself. It's amazing how a lot of people on /co/ are this weird combination of skeptical and stupid.
>>82849110
Because Scarlet Witch didn't do anything wrong, probably.
>>82865037
This tbqh.
>blames the manufacturer of the bomb that killed her family and not the people who fired it like a moron
>signs up to hydra, a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION and lets them experiment on her for revenge
>attacks her enemies group of friends who do nothing but try to protect innocent people
>mindrapes her enemy and lets him go with an extremely dangerous weapon as if nothing bad would happen for the ebin lulz
>when that doesnt pan out teams up with an obviously GENOCIDAL KILLING MACHINE
>hmm lets set the Hulk loose on a rampage near Johannesburg I'm sure no civilians will get hurt :^)
>almost gets the ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET destroyed because she abandons the doomsday device she promised to guard to get revenge on the robot that was going to be destroyed soon anyway
>extremely overpowered mind control and telekenetic powers but is somehow still worse than useless on the team and gets dozens of random people killed by levitating a suicide bomber next to a building
>gets uppity that Vision wouldn't let her go down to the shops when it's obviously for her own safety
>stabs him in the back to get involved in Cap's stupid mission for no reason other than being a bitter bitch where she does nothing but rack up more property damage costs
>was fucking her brother on the down low according to the actors, literally an incestuous slut
glad she is stuck in The Raft getting raped by the guards every day, she deserves it
>>82865264
>blames the manufacturer of the bomb that killed her family and not the people who fired it like a moron
Tony is the one who sold weapons to terrorists, he should be in jail for that alone.
>signs up to hydra, a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION and lets them experiment on her for revenge
Nobody knew what HYDRA was aside from HYDRA members until TWS.
>attacks her enemies group of friends who do nothing but try to protect innocent people
Who have the terrorist weapon seller among them.
>mindrapes her enemy and lets him go with an extremely dangerous weapon as if nothing bad would happen for the ebin lulz
No, so that he destroyed himself with it.
>when that doesnt pan out teams up with an obviously GENOCIDAL KILLING MACHINE
Not that obvious considering she instantly betrayed Ultron when she discovered the truth
>hmm lets set the Hulk loose on a rampage near Johannesburg I'm sure no civilians will get hurt :^)
I don't think any of them got, otherwise it would have been pointed out in CW.
Also, why bring Banner to such a place?
>almost gets the ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET destroyed because she abandons the doomsday device she promised to guard to get revenge on the robot that was going to be destroyed soon anyway
No robot = no one using doomsday device.
>extremely overpowered mind control and telekenetic powers but is somehow still worse than useless on the team and gets dozens of random people killed by levitating a suicide bomber next to a building
If it wasn't for her, Cap and a fuckload more civilians would have died.
>gets uppity that Vision wouldn't let her go down to the shops when it's obviously for her own safety
Maybe they should have told her instead of keeping her hostage
>stabs him in the back to get involved in Cap's stupid mission for no reason other than being a bitter bitch where she does nothing but rack up more property damage costs
And to fight for her own freedom.
And the last one isn't true either.
Kill yourself.
>>82865264
t. Bendis
>>82865264
I still don't see what she did wrong.
>>82865422
>a fuckload more civilians would have died.
Do we know this? It's very possible that the very public fight with Crossbones got more people to back out of the original blast radius.
>>82865526
The place was full of civilians, and only about 10 died.
Plus, Cap would have died too.
>>82865544
26 died. Plus 11 of them were important diplomats from a developed country, so it bothered people more than if it were poor Nigerians.
>>82865264
>her own safety
>safety
>when she could blow up the entire planet
>>82865422
>implying it wasn't Iron Monger who was selling arms to terrorists
>>82859006
she didn't get her tits out
>>82865422
>Tony is the one who sold weapons to terrorists
That's a funny way of spelling Obadiah
scarlet witch more like scarlet bitch lol
>>82866717
lmao retard
>>82866717
good one XD
>>82866717
>>82866717
ROFLCOPTER LMAYONNAISE ECKSDEE RAWR
>>82866717
>>82865264
Being Bendis should be a bannable offense.
>>82849129
No one likes her for titties, they like her for her thigh
>>82849110
The people who made Civil War do not give a shit about what happened in AoU, is the real answer.
If Joss Whedon had stuck around he might have played up her guilt as an ex-villain. But in Civil War here's what's never mentioned:
> Her being an ex-villain
> Her being from Sokovia
> Her ever having hated Stark or the Avengers
> Her telepathic mind powers
> HER BROTHER
I think we kind of just have to accept that this is all done in broad strokes and that Tony and Wanda are somewhat different characters in CIVIL WAR than they were under other teams.
>>82865449
>underrated
>>82870375
I like her for hereverything.
>>82870431
It's funny that when Wanda gets into the MCU she winds up being put in the exact position she was in in the comics, where the writer makes her ill-defined powers responsible for all the bad things.
In Civil War the Russos/Markus/McFeely protected her more (her accident was 100% an accident, not malicious like in AoU).
I guess the difference is that in AoU she was a new character so part of her function was to take some of the blame away from the valuable characters (Tony Stark and Bruce Banner). Now she's a valuable character herself so the writers put in more "not her fault" insurance.
>>82850328
>>82850781
It wasn't her fault. She did what she thought was best at the time. But it turned out to be a bad call. Rather than a bunch of people blown up on ground level, we got a bunch of people blown up in a building AND everyone who got caught in the debris AND the higher monetary lost of a skyscraper vs a bunch of wooden stalls.
From a PR standpoint, it also resulted in (the perception of) more middle class types being killed vs poor stall keepers.
If it were a (non-vigilante) corporation Wanda belonged to, she'd be the scapegoat and be fired.
>>82870431
>Her being an ex-villain
She was part of the Avengers at the end of AoU, would have been irrelevant.
>Her being from Sokovia
Apart from the Accords being named after Sokovia, there's not many ocasions where it made sense to mention it.
>Her telepathic mind powers
Did they show her doing anything apart from giving visions?
>HER BROTHER
I think this one has more to do with not wanting to mention a something like that to her.
Hawkeye does say that she owes her something, which is probably the fact that Pietro sacrificed himself to save him.
>>82870716
>Did they show her doing anything apart from giving visions?
Yeah, in AoU it was a plot point that she could look into people's heads but not robots, which is how she managed to read Ultron's consciousness when it was placed into Vision... or something like that.
She was also shown using her powers from a distance to make Sokovians evacuate, which suggests direct mind control.
Anyway all of that is gone in Civil War and her power is "moving things with my mind," which is fine, I think that's better anyway. It's just a sign of how the new team didn't feel bound by what Whedon did.
Of course its her fault, its always her fault
When will you people learn
>>82870875
Can someone explain that .jpg please?
>>82852383
I WANT SCARLET TO WEAR HER CLASSIC OUTFIT, TO SEE THOSE THIGHS. THEY ARE CUTE! CUTE!
>>82871084
You do?
>>82871062
This was from late in Bendis's Avengers run when he tried to character assassinate Wonder Man by having him turn on the Avengers.
To explain why he hates the Avengers now, he suggests that maybe when Scarlet Witch brought him back to life (long story) he was just a figment of her imagination.
So basically Bendis is trying to character assassinate Simon and Wanda at the same time.
And people wonder why Wandafags are protective of her.
>>82856695
sauce, senpai
>>82871084
There's no need for the classic outfit.
>>82871162I'll delete it in 3 minutes.
>>82871374
She's only does that for her brother anon, delete this
>>82871062
Who was the one who made Simon an evil facist? I never read the credits but there was one issue during Civil War where a meta-human (I know) said he didn't sign up to be a slave soldier and Simon was all "That's PRECISELY what you signed up for, read the fine print. That's why we're here to take you in."
>>82871525
Okay.
>>82870716
>She was part of the Avengers at the end of AoU, would have been irrelevant.
I'm pretty sure one of the Avengers being a former villain would be very relevant to a story about public distrust of the Avengers.
>>82872418
>villain
But apart from unleashing the Hulk, the public doesn't know much about her, and even then, I don't think they know it was Wanda who unleashed him and focused more on Hulk itself.
>people still acting like Bendis made Wanda a problem and she wasnt a shit from the start
The delusion is astounding
>>82873042
> Acting like John Byrne's interpretation of any character ever counts
>>82873378
>Bendis doesn't count
>Byrne doesnt count
When will you fags admit she's garbage
How many authors do we have to go through?
>>82873684
A good one would be a good start.
>>82873684
Bendis and Byrne are two of the biggest character assassins in the business, so a character who got worked over by Byrne and Bendis *copying* Byrne is doomed.
>>82873684
>>82873881
I like Busiek's Wanda.
And I've heard good things about her in Force Works.
And Remender wasn't bad, considering how much damage control he had to help her through.
>>82873881
>Byrne is a bad now
Holy fuck, who are you people willing to throw under the bus next? Claremont? Morrison?
>>82874132
Back in the Silver Age she was also the superheroine Stan Lee wrote least badly, and then her romantic arc with the Vision was so popular in the comics that they're doing something similar in the movies (a slow-burn romantic arc lasting for years). People can find her boring if they want but she hasn't gone evil more often than, say, Sue Storm.
>>82874353
Is it really supposed to be news that Byrne wasn't so great for Vision and Scarlet Witch? The whole last issue of Vision's comic was basically just about how bad Byrne screwed up their lives.
>>82849110
Tony was working on Ultron already.
Also, no one else she dosed created a genocidal monster. Just Tony. Hence his crippling guilt.
>>82874132
>Busiek's Wanda
Where he moved her from her old probability bullshit to literal magic? That was the beginning of the end
>>82874409
There's a point where you have to accept that there's a flaw with the character and not the beloved and critically accclaimed authors dealing with her
>>82874513
>There's a point where you have to accept that there's a flaw with the character and not the beloved and critically accclaimed authors dealing with her
Every character can be good or bad depending on the story. This is the Aquaman Rule, also known as the "but Hawkeye was actually cool in the comics" principle.
I don't hate any characters, I just hate what writers have done with them.
>>82874513
>There's a point where you have to accept that there's a flaw with the character and not the beloved and critically accclaimed authors dealing with her
Okay, if you got respect for Byrne, I can dig it.
But Bendis? Beloved?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>82870431
AoU also abandoned the idea of Hawkeye retiring to his farm and the Natasha/Hulk romance and pretty much everything else from AoU. Even the plot point about them spending 33% of the movie saving civilians is forgotten.
Basically if everyone gets a clean slate after the out-of-character shenanigans of AoU I don't see the problem with them ignoring Wanda's past. It would be one thing if the writers had her still hating Stark for his weapon-making past, but they didn't (she threw cars at him but only for locking her up, her political consciousness is gone, stupid sellout).
>>82849110
Nah, remember, Whedon was in charge of it, and the "feminists" were still on his side at that point
He wouldn't risk having any blame put on her.
Tonyfu can do no wrong.
>>82875429
But he pretty much did put a lot of the blame on her.
The point of her zapping Stark was to shift some of the blame from the flagship MCU character to this unknown girl with the weird accent. Same with the Hulk rampage. It's like they (probably not just Whedon, but Feige and the committee) decided the horrible things Stark and Banner needed to do and wrote Wanda's powers in such a way as to be partly responsible for them.
It would have been easy for them to write a line explaining Wanda didn't intend to turn Banner into the Hulk (exactly what she did intend to do is never really explained). They didn't because they either didn't care, or forgot.
I think Whedon likes the character or he wouldn't have put her in, but he wound up making her more unsympathetic than he probably intended. The Captain America team actually did better by her (and Stark).
>>82875289
I was clearly talking about Byrne but you can keep shitting on Bendis if you want
>>82875671
I will good sir.
I will.
>>82871236
She still needs headgear of some kind. I think a subtle tiara would work best.
>>82849361
>not make a killer deathbot.
Except she was also autistic enough to follow and help the killer deathbot.
>>82870475
>that pic
>just sitting here, being awesome
Why is this allowed?
>>82881587
I'm somewhat surprised they didn't do a nod to the headpiece by making her wear a red hairband
>>82849110
Wanda was never Hydra. She sought power to help others.
>>82865264
> Stark put her under house arrest without telling her.
> Kept in the dark about it.
> So when she finds out about it, it looks suspicious and feels like a betrayal.
"We will protect you"...by doing things behind your back.
>>82865422
Fascinating thing is "ordinary" Clint is the one who is encouraging her to let go of being human and embrace her powers.
And Steve, the "old timer" sees her potential and believes in her.
Meanwhile futurist genius Stark and Vision are the stick in the muds who are afraid of her power (the latter IMHO is scared of her becoming less human).
Oh, the irony.
>>82885354
If she has a headpiece we will see it in Infinity War, perhaps given to her by Strange, Agatha, or Clea.
It would kind of symbolize her leaving human stuff behind.
>>82888022
Yeah, Mary-Kate and Elizabeth look more like twins than Mary-Kate and Ashley.
At least she did before they went full JUST.
>>82859656
>Vision dies in Infinity War
>Phase 4 last movie before the Avengers flick is Wanda standalone that explores her guilt over everything that has happened and trying to come to terms with her losses
>ends with"More mutants/inhumans"
>Avengers 4 is House of M, with some dead villains and heroes back
>ends with Wanda returning the world back to how it was
>some villains survive, Quicksilver and Vision survive
>even more powered people in the world
>Phase 5 starts with the Inhumans movie
>>82888244
>Inhumans was the pet project of Ike Perlmutter
>by the time the movie gets released he'll probably be dead already
>>82888022
How the fuck does a headpiece = leaving humanity behind. That's reaching man
>>82888267
I think he meant as a symbolic thing.
You know, get the full costume and change from her current clothes, which are quite normal looking.
>>82874466
>Tony was working on Ultron already.
He had shelved the project until Wanda made him freak out.
>Also, no one else she dosed created a genocidal monster.
Because no one else had the ability to create AI.
>>82870375
Her titties are great though, watch Oldboy.
>>82888267
It is reaching but it makes more sense than appearing before that.
>>82875429
That's not what we saw, though. Whedon wrote her as a person with faults, while Marcus/McFeely wrote her as much more of a victim.
Whedon's an older wave of feminist, back when the progressive stance was writing women more like men, before it flipped back to treating them like fragile flowers.
>>82886888
She and Pietro literally joined HYDRA of their own free will. If that "doesn't count" because they thought HYDRA was doing the right thing, then almost nobody in HYDRA counts.
>>82888838
The few people who knew what HYDRA was thought they were just a faction of the nazis that Captain America destroyed in WWII.
There's no way they knew what HYDRA was about.
>>82888711
Tony wanted to create Ultron so that the Avengers weren't necessary anymore.
>>82849466
>Makes Tony freak out and build Ultron
She maked Tony freak out who consequencial build Ultron.
It's not like she was aware of Ultron until he showed himself.
>Makes Vision shoot down Rhodey
That one is bullshit.
The rest no complains
>>82874513
Byrne's a manchild who willingly and blatantly destroys any interpretation of characters he doesn't like. See his Doom Patrol run if you don't believe me. More than any other writer in Big 2 comics ever, Byrne is an example of a character assassin.
>>82849110
>> /tv
>>82889547
>maked
>>82849110
No she isn't.
It was Tony.
>>82888210
JUST
>>82849110
Everything is fine and you are not at fault when you have tits.
>>82852383
Glad they hamfisted that she's not a mutant bullshit into there. just affirming marvels agenda. great.
>>82892839
If it was by Marvel I doubt they would have even allowed the video to be made considering the mention of mutants and the X-Men.
