>capeshit is dumb
>Americans are dumb
>read my shitty fishrape comic
Grant pls
>>82830670
It's true
>>82830842
I know, I was just b8ing.
>>82830317
First two are true, though.
I mean, I like capeshit, but I'm aware that it's completely brainless.
>>82830317
First 2 are true...a bit hurt but he's right. A big Nah for 3 though, his fish rape comic is fucking shit.
>leave my shit alone
>read about harry potter being a psychotic antichrist who kills people by jerking off and cumming lightning
ITT OP wants to die from cancer
Never understood why so many people suck his pretentious flacid cock. V for Vendetta was better than expected, Watchmen was good, but everything else was okay or really overrated. Of all the "high tier" writers, he surely is the weakest.
>>82834157
Those 2 aren't even his best works tho. His swamp thing marvelman and supreme alone eclipse his more widely recognized work.
>fishrape
This alone makes up for alllll of that shit
>>82830317
>>capeshit is dumb
True.
>>Americans are dumb
Truer.
>>read my shitty fishrape comic
It was OK. /co/'s butthurt makes it more enjoyable, even.
Don't forget Halo Jones, the thrilling far future tale of two girls that go shopping and then one of them gets a job as a waitress
>>82834378
Sure thing, OP
He's not wrong, you know
>>82834423
Halo Jones is an excellent comic though.
>>82834480
to be fair not all Americans are dumb just the ones who read capeshit
>>82834535
I think it would be more accurate if it was "not all Americans are dumb just the ones who read comics as a source of literature."
>>82834423
> it will never be finished
>>82834507
Did I say it wasn't?
>>82834157
I feel like Watchmen gets a lot of positive attention for being a deconstruction of super-hero comics mixed with a lot of philosophizing.
But I never cared about superhero comics so to me the deconstruction was meaningless, which meant it had to stand on its own, which meant I found a lot of it overblown and pompous.
Also catching bullets is impossible.
>>82834653
That's what makes it beautiful
>>82834157
> pretentious
In what way is Moore pretentious? Grant Morrison is the pretentious one
>>82834744
Why are you bringing Morrison into this? He's nothing like Moore.
>>82834535
>not all Americans are dumb
Except those who vote for Trump,that is.
>>82834682
>I never cared about superhero comics
>>82834784
No those guys are gullible, there's a difference.
>>82834781
The post was about " high tier writers"
>>82834865
But capefags are gullible too.
>>82834744
He acts like he is the only writer worth a shit in all history of comics, and only hi works can be seen as mature.
>>82834682
>But I never cared about superhero comics so to me the deconstruction was meaningless, which meant it had to stand on its own, which meant I found a lot of it overblown and pompous.
Hmh. I was reading a Darwyn Cooke from several years ago and he basically said the same thing, although he used Grant Morrison as his example. What Cooke basically said was that comics were becoming a boutique concern, because the most highly-touted works (such as those of Morrison) are so self-referential and demand from the reader an extensive familiarity with the history and tropes of superheroes so as to be absolutely impenetrable to the casual audience that the publishers need to revive the comics industry.
>>82834967
>Darwyn Cooke
That Before Watchmen hack?
>>82834967
I meant, "I was reading a Darwyn Cooke interview"
>>82834910
Well sure they can be both but Trump supporters are mostly credulous fools and capefags are mostly semi-literate mouth breathers
>>82834919
>This is the same guy who wrote a scene of a female FBI agent giving a handjob to a fishman, with the fishman making goofy sounds as she does so
I really hope what people say that he wrote Neonomicon mostly because he needed money at the time.
>>82834990
Yeah, he wrote one of the "Before Watchmen" miniseries (not his best moment, to be polite about it).
I don't think that disqualifies his opinion, though. It just means he'll take a good-paying comics job, like 99% of the industry's freelancers.
>>82835035
It's kind of annoying because outside of the fish rape it's a pretty solid book but you can't just skip over the fish rape because it's essential to the plot.
It's like he's testing us to find out home much bullshit we are willing to take
>>82834919
>He acts like he is the only writer worth a shit in all history of comics
No he doesn't. He praises plenty of people in the industry like Gaiman, Ellis, Ennis, Wein, Jaime Hernandes, Scott McCloud, Sam Keith, Mike Allred, etc.
>>82835139
It is pretty clear his fans will accept anything. That was on the same level as Unfunnies but it was alright because Moore can do no wrong.
>>82835035
>>82835139
>TRIGGERED AMERICANS.jpg
>>82835042
>I don't think that disqualifies his opinion
It does; you cannot criticize the industry while doing hack jobs for it.
>>82835184
>you cannot criticize the industry while doing hack jobs for it
Sure you can. As long as you will admit you're doing a job for a paycheck, but Cooke claimed he had some artistic goal in Before Watchman and THAT was crap
>>82835232
>Cooke claimed he had some artistic goal in Before Watchman and THAT was crap
See? What a faggot. No wonder he got cancer.
>>82834682
It gets attention as a deconstruction by people who don't read comics
Watchmen is a triumph of the comic book form, independent of its relationship to other stories
>>82835139
I personally thought the comic was okay in matter of plot, but the handjob scene was much dumber than the gang-rape that Brears suffers. Burrows' art made that even sillier than it supposed to be.
>>82835232
>>82835259
And Moore stated he wrote Neonomicon because he needed a paycheck at the time.
>>82835319
Eh it's all-right. A lot of it is pure unrealistic fantasy, which I'd be fine with if it didn't take itself so seriously.
>>82835399
>I'm doing it for the money so i can just write porn sequences with fish rape instead of actual plot!
Moorefags are the worst
>>82835522
>>82835547
It's OK, anon. Stick to capeshit and you won't suffer anymore.
>>82835184
>you cannot criticize the industry while doing hack jobs for it.
Of course you can. It's practically a comics industry tradition. Kirby, Ditko, Claremont, Byrne, Miller, Hama, Moore, etc. all talked shit at one point or another about the industry, whilst still doing work for the same companies that they were criticizing. If anything, their criticisms might be more valid in a certain sense than those that come from those artists and writers who've never worked for "corporate comics," since their opinions are tempered by actual experience and a sense of real-world pragmatism.
I do agree that Cooke's comments come off as disingenuous in light of his Before Watchmen work, but as I remember it, he made those comments years before he worked on the project. And as I previously mentioned, all it proves is that he'll take a paying job like any sensible contractor.
>>82835617
In short, they pretended to be rebels while still doing what the industry told them to. Man, I'm so glad I pirate their books.
>>82835613
>Implying i read capeshit
Unless you count Hellboy as cape.
>>82835522
The art, anon
>>82835675
You can complain about an industry while still working in the industry
>>82835679
Fishrape is about the only weirdo thing that isn't in Hellboy. I'm surprised Abe Sapien didn't get a cameo in Neonomicon.
>>82835679
Into frogs, huh?
>>82834682
>I never cared about superhero comics
>>82835613
>Stick to capeshit
Anon do you have brain problems?
>>82835675
If you want to paint them as rebels to make their failings more poignant to you, go right ahead.
>>82835730
Yeah, but the best thing is doing it under a nickname; otherwise the boss might get angry and fire you.
>>82835785
No, I don't use fedoras. They rot your brain.
>>82835692
Moore doesn't get credit for that.
>>82835825
He was heavily involved with the plotting
It wasn't like today, where a writer does a script and emails it off to the artist who emails it off to the colorist
>>82835750
>Abe and Liz porn
My brain says no but my boner says yes
>>82835778
Stop.
>>82835812
Reading comprehension problems perhaps? Maybe Dyslexia?
>>82835868
Come on, let's be friends. Have a gift.
>>82830317
He's not wrong.
>>82835930
Could be a Dark Souls enemy
Is Promethea any good?
>>82830317
>>82835675
You've got it backwards anon. It takes more balls to criticize an industry while you're working in it than to lob criticisms at an industry while standing in relative safety from the outside.
>>82837194
>It's Man-Thing that gets a ride with Moore instead Swamp Thing
Brilliant
>>82836863
Meant to reply to
>>82838544
>>82836863
Why is Man-Thing so kawaii
>>82830317
He is British.
I guess that's what happens when you are the remnants of a fallen empire, you have that superiority complex and can't accept that you are the past.
They are always butthurt and complaining.
>muh Empire
>Britannia rules the waves!
>please we are still relevant!
