Why is movie Cap so goddam serious all the time?
Isn't he meant to be a heartwarming and relatable person?
Like you can picture him going to cafeterias just to read the paper and relax for a while, probably go with another avenger and shoot the shit for a while.
Is ironic how both movie and Avengers Assemble Cap were written with the same mistake, you never get to see their personal lives and yet AA Cap feels more multi dimensional persoality wise compared with movie Cap.
Inbefore Avengers Assemble is a piece of shit, the show has improved a lot since season 2, it will never be as good as Batman TAS or Earth Mighties Heroes, but for what it is is a decent show.
Disney shills leave
>>82802020
>Like you can picture him going to cafeterias just to read the paper and relax for a while, probably go with another avenger and shoot the shit for a while.
Yes.
>>82802020
>shilling for AA
Look here faggot. The first time I watched the show was two weeks ago because someone, probably you, was saying the show is great now that they've got this Thunderbolts arc going on.
I watched three episodes.
It is undoubtably one of the worst cartoons I've ever seen.
>>82802107
why is bernie sanders sitting next to adam salader and carolima bang
>>82802020
Why are you re-making this thread?
AA is literally one of the worst cartoons I have ever seen.
>>82802020
>Why is movie Cap so goddam serious all the time?
Because we only see him when he's fighting.
>>82802107
again its a decent show, like the cartoons from the 90s but today and not as good...
Is just that when they don't have the characters acting like normal people outside the costume every once on a while is when you know that your super heroe show is not that good.
That's was lacking on Ultimate Spider-man, a lack of focus on Peter Parker
>>82802020
>Like you can picture him going to cafeterias just to read the paper and relax for a while, probably go with another avenger and shoot the shit for a while.
Uh, yes?
>>82802301
>again its a decent show
I have watched it and it absolutely is not.
I have never seen a cartoon that had less effort put into it than AA.
>>82802301
>That's was lacking on Ultimate Spider-man, a lack of focus on Peter Parker
Yes, that and that alone was the only thing wrong with Ultimate Spiderman. Not all of the other stuff.
>>82802020
they have a very limited time to show characterization outside of the main conflict in the movies thats why.
i would love a 2 hour movie about the avengers day to day for the summer, handling minor incidents and just being themselves and interacting with each other at their avenger's base but it wouldn't make money and only hardcore fans would watch it so yeah.
>>82802228
You haven't seen many cartoons.
>>82802368
The show lifts so much from the movies that it's emotionally draining, knowing that people give so few shits about the cartoon they're making.
>>82802493
I've seen very many. AA is in the bottom 10% percentile.
>>82802020
Super Serum gave him autism, just like vaccines do
>>82802107
>disliking the Thunderbolts episodes
Sadly the show returned to the same old shit on the next episode.
>>82802456
Its a good show, not as good as Spectacular Spider-man but good for what it is, I like the cutaway jokes and visual jokes, the writing has a lot of energy.
But whatever, this is /co/, you gotta take the ''this show is a 100%!!!'' comments with a graint of salt since that's the default answer for most things
>>82802485
>i would love a 2 hour movie about the avengers day to day for the summer, handling minor incidents and just being themselves and interacting with each other at their avenger's base but it wouldn't make money and only hardcore fans would watch it so yeah.
Basically the Spider-man Raimi movies
>>82802715
Yes but with the Avengers instead of just Spiderman.
>>82802020
>Like you can picture him going to cafeterias just to read the paper and relax for a while, probably go with another avenger and shoot the shit for a while.
You mean like going to a party and having fun with all the others trying to lift Thor's hammer?
Or sitting in a bar back in WW2 with the other soliders having a good time?
Or just having a good jog while chatting with some guy he doesn't know.
Yeah, never see THAT cap in the movies.
>>82802485
MCU slice-of-life series?
>>82802642
What the fuck was good about them to begin with?
And fuck me, could they have picked a shittier voice for Songbird?
>>82802754
ahhhh you got him
>>82802745
So the X-men movies.
>>82802754
Yeah, they always do that shit during like 10 minutes when the movie starts and they drop it for the rest of the film.
That doesn't say anything about Cap as a person.
Unlike the Spider-man films with Sam Raimi or any Batman film, the movie shows us a period of time on the characters life while Winter Soldier and Civil War felt like 2 days of characters running around non stop.
>>82802998
>they always do that shit during like 10 minutes when the movie starts and they drop it for the rest of the film.
because all of the marvel movies its 1 big conflict instead of a series of small ones and that big one keeps them really worried.
>>82803101
They can just WRITE THE MOVIES ON A DIFFERENT WAY then.
Like Ant-man, now that I think about it that's basically it, a movie about a period of a characters life with space to breath in the middle and even during the third act.
Even the first Captain America movie was a little bit like that but they droped most of the human character development in favor of the character just reacting to shit around him
>>82802998
It wouldn't really be appropriate for Cap to just take a moment to chill and goof off when his best friend is at the center of an international incident.
>>82803180
Then write the movie on a different way so you get more character development.
Everybody got a character arc on Civil War while Cap didn't.
>>82802998
>That doesn't say anything about Cap as a person.
It does, though. As do all the moments where it's clear he refuses to ever stop fighting and can't into modern life.
>>82803315
Did you watch the same movie?
Cap got more character development in freaking Age of Ultron than the entirety of AA.
How many avengers cartoons are there?
>>82803446
1 Good one.
That's the only one you need to care about.
>>82803446
3. The first and most recent ones are god-awul. The middle one is decent.
>>82802501
man i feel bad for falcon
Yeah, I really liked Cap in 1 and 2. Wasn't much to like or dislike in 3. He was a good person, loyal friend, basically heroic, sometimes sad...but for all the drama and quiet scenes, there wasn't much of a human there.
>>82802501
>Who gives a shit about Falcon anyway?
For that matter how many spiderman cartoons have there been in recent times? I remember there being a bunch for some reason
>>82803840
Including the 90's? Like 4
>>82802020
He's not.
>>82802020
CAP OF MURDER
>>82803175
>>82803315
>i don't like how its written!
>CHANGE IT
>>82803894
>Cap and Thor are bros
>>82803371
And how did he got character development in Civil War???
Maybe going from level headed to asshole but that would be backwards character development.
Maybe the letter than he send to Tony but GODDAMIT I'm tired of the MCU using throw away lines or expository dialogue as their only moments of character development for most characters.
That's why people like Iron Man, you get to see him doing shit outside being Iron Man, not just being told about it.
>>82803995
>>82803894
Everyone in this picture looks weird.
>Tony is jealous of the bromance between Thor and Cap.
>Rhodey feels displaced. Like a fat girl being ignored in a party.
>Clint is very aware of all this
>>82803872
60s Spider-man
Spider-man and his amazing friends.
90s Spider-man
Spider-man beyond or some shit that was like Batman Beyond.
Spider-man the cell shaded series.
Spectacular Spider-man
Ultimate.
>>82803995
>Berserk anime
Jump off a cliff
>>82804213
>Maybe going from level headed to asshole but that would be backwards character development.
Character development does not mean becoming a better person.
>>82804239
>>Rhodey feels displaced. Like a fat girl being ignored in a party.
Why did they turned Rhodey into a doofus?
Wasn't he meant to be a serius guy?
>>82803894
And how does the scene ends? With Ultron shit from the get go.
>>82804280
>Recent times
>>82804308
Hey man! Glad to see another fan of Miura's Magnus Opus!
Seen the trailer for the new season? Shit looks tight. The CGI looks amazing.
>>82804362
I'm just listing all the Spider-man cartoons you idiot.
>>82804433
No need to get mad, anon. Just saying that the question placed a small time frame. Not over 60 years.
>>82804213
Let's be honest though, that is kind of the point to some of these characters.
Tony Stark is two people: Tony Stark and Iron Man. There isn't much of a difference, but there is still a difference in how they act/react. When Tony is in the suit, he becomes Iron Man, when he is out of the suit, he is Tony Stark.
When Captain America takes off the suit, it changes nothing about him. He is still Captain America. He literally has to dress up in a manner that hides his features to not be recognized as Captain America.
There are several other characters who sort of have the same problem: Thor and Vision, for instance. They will always be themselves, there are no alter egos to hide behind and not be who they are when they fight.
>>82804312
So if people ask you about the movie you would say that this is the movie about Cap becoming an asshole?
>>82804494
And am I saying otherwise??
>>82804691
If you knew it wasn't relevant to the question then why did you post it?
>>82804691
Yes. You are giving an answer that surpass the time limit of what constitutes as "recent" in capeshit.
>>82802020
maybe he'd be more upbeat if they gave him pizza every once in a while
>>82804650
Not that anon, but I'd say it's the movie where they all fight for no reason and Cap's series is stolen from him.
Also, honestly, enough Bucky. The Bucky-Cap relationship is fine, but Cap's real life partner is the concept of America. It's far more interesting to see him deal with America's deviation from its stated goals than watching him mope around with Bucky.
If they make a Cap 4, I hope they refocus the series back on him.
>>82804761
Because that's a contribution to the conversation?
Why do you have a nitpicking douche?
>>82804792
So?
>>82802501
>The show lifts so much from the movies that it's emotionally draining, knowing that people give so few shits about the cartoon they're making.
I stopped watching after the rom-com scene between thor and jane.
Not to throw a negative light on other Cap writers, but Kirby knew how to make special. In fact, he treated every single one of his characters like that, instilling within them a sense of humanity that a lot of other authors really have trouble nailing down
Cap may not be the most interesting character in the Marvel universe, i'll admit, but I'll be damned if he isn't the most charmingly optimistic relic out there
>>82803911
More likely than you think.
>>82806238
I'm fairly certain heads don't pop off that easy
>>82802020
Movie Cap does his share of brooding, but he's still a sweetheart compared to a lot of the older Cap comics.
I was reading a Cap cameo in Byrne's Fantastic Four, and Movie Cap is practically a different character.
>>82806280
I'm fairly certain you're an idiot.
>>82803446
As far as I'm concerned only one exists.
>>82806238
I thought that was Stan Lee for a minute.
>>82802501
Thank you. It could be its own think, but the show clearly has an agenda. It's heroes look very similar to their MCU counterpart--to a degree. Plenty of gags done in the MCU are repurposed on this shit show. Why is Marvel TV such a pile of shit, outside of the netflix shows, they have wasted a clean deck of cartoon villains.
>>82803460
>>82803491
>>82807537
I honestly forgot about EMH, it's just that bland ad forgettable. At least the other two are awful enough to be memorable
>>82802456
>Yes, that and that alone was the only thing wrong with Ultimate Spiderman.
Really anon? Not Spidey's annoying screechy voice? Not the mediocre animation and boring art style? Not the shameless attempts to shill the MCU? Not the terrible humor and bad writing? Not the gimmicky toy commercials?
>>82802020
>>82808233
I think the anon was being sarcastic. He was implying there's way more wrong with Ultimate Spider-Man
>>82802485
Have you been to tumblr? They harp on about that shit constantly. Someone on my Facebook shares screencaps of that sort of stuff almost daily
>>82802020
He has his moments man.
>>82809646
If Sam doesn't say "on your left"in a solemn tone directed at Steve's headstone/statue as he wears the stripes, I'll be sorely disappointed.
>>82803460
>>82803491
Dont hate on my pym lead avengers.
It was better than the current shit at least
>>82808599
>>82807928
You are delusional as fuck. It is one of the best action cartoons ever made
>>82802691
>Its a good show
Holy shit, those low standards.
>>82804321
No, he was just acted more straight when Terrance Howard played him. Cheadle always played him with more charisma and charm.
>>82811397
I don't even remember how he was in IM2, just that he had to get Tony to stop being a drunken bitch.
>>82812008
Cheadle is a fucking amazing actor. I'm very glad they recast war machine
He's a thirty something year old superhuman virgin. He probably thinks masturbation is a sin cause he's got that much of a stick up his ass. Guy has problems.
>>82811011
I disagree, but I'm glad you get enjoyment out of it
>>82812088
I'm not denouncing him, just remember he still seemed like the serious straight man there, and because of Whedon he looked like a joke in AoU.
>>82802020
This is the second goddamn time
>>82812171
There was no point to him being in AoU.
>>82802020
EVERYTHING ABOUT THE MCU IS SHIT
CIVIL WAR WILL BE SHIT
ALL PREVIOUS MOVIES OF THIS FRANCHISE SUCK BALLS
>>82802200
Those aren't real names. Stop trying to trick me!
>>82802874
DIdn't like Jennifer Hale's take?
>>82808599
WHAT IS THIS
THE 60S?!!!
>>82802020
I like serious Cap. He looks like he's bearing the weight of duty 24/7.
