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>"Steven Universe is so well-written, its like so creative and new"
>*plagiarizes Invader Zim*
>>82761208
In what way?
Cartoons are the cancer killing /co/
>>82761356
/co/ should be split to have a Cartoon Board and a Comic Board.
>>82761208
So they've got a height based caste system and a short green obnoxious alien. The way that watermelon steven got destroyed might be a direct reference to .gif related. Doesn't really hold a candle to the five anime references an episode they end up doing.
>>82761541
>So they've got a height based caste system
No they don't.
>>82761356
Yeah, god forbid we push one of the fifty Civil War threads off the board.
>>82761520
What we need is a /capeco/ board to banish capeshit forever, especially the movies.
>>82761614
Gems literally more powerful with size, and their leaders are shown to be massive compared to other individual gems.
Size is both social standing and power level to them.
>>82761701
Peals are taller than many gems shown, and has the lowest status.
>>82761701
If that were the case then wouldn't the world just be run by fusions?
Like if being a giant gem means you get more respect, wouldn't being a fusion mean more because same gem fusions are almost literally and canonically just one giant version of the same gem
>>82761701
>bigger ones are more powerful
And in your mind you think that's plagiarizing Invader Zim? I could point out how Sapphire was a much higher "caste" than Ruby despite them being the same size, but rather than debunk your theory it's more interesting to discuss just how poorly formulated it is in the first place.
Here we fucking go again.
http://www.ivanhoffman.com/characters.html
>>82761817
The other Irkens were ranked differently despite being the same size as well.
>>82761541
>this plagiarism is okay because of all the other plagiarism they do normally
>Jasper landed face-down
>her gem may have cracked
>when Amethyst cracked, her body turned to spaghetti
>yfw Jasper emerges from the kindergarten like this
>>82761208
>well-written
lol
>>82761817
It's just a shitty tumblr meme that the diamonds are in charge because they're the tallest.
>>82761208
Its not plagiarism. Its called an Expy and its a form of extended reference.
The plot and most of the characters are entirely original, and peridot has had her own extensive character development. Her being a tiny green engineer from a genderless alien empire with tall leaders does not make the story plagerized just because she is
>>82761208
Invader Zim is overrated protololrandumb shit that we have to thank not only for one of the worst fandoms ever but also for the popularity of lolrandumb humor.
Peridot is nowhere near as annoying as that show even if she's inspired by it.
Peridot is much more considerate and understanding than that sociopath zim.
>>82761777
Is it better to be a servant to the rulers of your species or a bottom feeder slave digging holes or whatever?
>>82761780
The acceptability of fusions is a major plot point, possibly started the war in the first place. Diamonds probably aren't hot on the idea of peons being able to band together to be stronger than their leaders.
>>82761817
Future sight makes her an obvious outlier in value. Not arguing that they're plagiarizing though, only that height plays a role in gem society.
>>82762181
Thank you for saying what I didn't feel like taking the time to put into words.
>>82761701
You mean like most of real life?
You know Jasper was under the command of Peridot, right?
>>82762170
tiny green engineer from a genderless alien empire with tall leaders does
U r a faggot.
>>82762181
>Peridot is nowhere near as annoying
>random yelling
>talking in the third person
>constantly praising herself
Yeah, no.
>>82762181
The lolrandom in IZ was largely regulated to GIR, who didn't actually have a very major role in the show at all. It was only the gigantic marketing campaign to sell shit at hot topic that got it the notoriety. Otherwise it was decent dark humor and a show that should have been outright about Dib and Gaz, with Zim supporting.
>>82762292
Jasper was calling the shots when the showed up. 'Shoot the gems with the ship, forget the mission we got Rose, etc.'
>its a homage
>>82761541
> five anime references an episode
Please list a few examples, this sounds like a solid figure you put a lot of time into researching to reach a conclusion.
>it's an "anon thinks he's being clever for pointing out superficial similarities" thread
>>82762632
Fight sequences basically directly ripped from Revolutionary Girl Utena, Tiger Millionaire's character was from manga Tiger Mask, Steven has a copy of Sailor Moon, 'Garnet's Universe' is literally an entire DBZ episode with a Usagi Yojimbo reference for good measure. The end of 'The Test' is another direct scene for scene rip of Neon Genesis Evangelion. Lion 3 does the same thing to Cowboy Bebop's Speak like a Child. A handful of Akira references have also been made throughout several episodes.
I'd think of more but you probably get the idea.
>>82762355
There are key differences:
>not main character
>voice is less abrasive
>her behavior is treated accordingly in-universe
>she's actually evolved to a point where she no longer treats others as inferior, doesn't praise herself, and only talks in third person when recording her logs
She also doesn't yell for no reason anymore. The only instances where she yelled were either when she was engaged/scared or had a reason to yell (world ending).
>>82762632
http://steven-universe.wikia.com/wiki/References_in_Steven_Universe
>>82762847
Enigma of the Amigara Fault is another fairly big reference with this entire area.
The show is also referencing movies, vidya and other popular culture all the time.
Makes you wonder how they still have time for original content.
>>82762632
The faces when Steven was contacting the Cluster looked exactly like forest spirits form Princess Mononoke
>>82762896
She's Sugar's version of Invader ZIM if he redeemed himself and loved Earth. She literally wrote a fanfic about that and it's still available online to read. She basically took all the cynicism out of ZIM because her show is all about friendship is magic and how love and beauty conquers all.
>>82761208
Stop arguing with yourself, anon.
>>82761667
/cpst/-Capeshit was already suggested and denied
>>82762958
Her edgy fanfic about Dib being crazy is worth a read too.
>>82762946
>Makes you wonder how they still have time for original content.
B-but anon! Nothing is original anymore! We should just not even bother trying and make blatant rip-offs because why try to think of something yourself when you can just Frankenstein your way to a popular series?
>>82762946
The Enigma of Amigara Fault references might just get worse
http://fantheoriesandfoodporn.tumblr.com/post/144357767579/no-but-what-if-jaspers-gem-is-cracked-and-since
I can't believe Steven Universe is ripping off anime, shitty show, unsubscribed.
>>82763120
>Implying anime didn't rip-off superheroes and American media first.
>>82763176
Literally all of anime is ripped off of donald duck because Tezuka was a disney nerd
>>82763263
>Literally all of anime is ripped off Disney and Fleischer.
Fixed that.
>>82763176
>>82762958
Gotta say. As a total softie who loves characters redeeming themselves, I'm fine with her style.
>>82763331
wut anime is dis plz gib sauce
>>82763366
Night Warriors Darkstalkers Revenge.
>>82763389
thx dude papa bless ya
>>82761208
>Invader Zim
She's Gizmo from Teen Titans. Am I the only one who realized this? They are literally the same character. They both even have the same stupid insults.
>>82763331
The key difference being that at least Bruce Timm's originality still far outweighs any "homages" they throw in. Omit all the references in SU and you're left with 30 minutes of content.
Ripping shit off is still ripping shit off no matter who does it, but how people view your work depends on how often you do it.
SU is the equivalent of a teenager in high school who does nothing but spouts quotes as "jokes" because they genuinely can't think of anything themselves.
>>82763438
Except Sugar was a huge ZIM fangirl back in the day. It's more likely that she was inspired by ZIM than Gizmo. Gizmo is a coincidence if anything, much like that anime character who looks like Lapis.
>>82763052
>>82763438
Im pretty sure the tiny technitian is a trope
Peridot, Zim, Gizmo, Ed, etc.
>>82763120
>>82763331
Why the hell did they even need to do two lasers. One laser would have cut through both flying ships and blown them up. It's like using two pairs of scissors to cut through one piece of paper.
>>82763508
>Gizmo from Teen Titans
>a character
Even the 43 year old hairy guy who ate a lot had more character.
>>82763468
>Omit all the references in SU and you're left with 30 minutes of content
Howd you come to that number?
>>82763176
>superheroes
No, more like Disney I guess but I don't see Capeshit influence anywhere
>>82762211
She threw Greg off the fucking roof to check if humans can fly.
>>82763878
She observed an indigenous lifeform that could fly and wondered if this was a constant trait among them.
>>82763550
Jolly cooperation.
THIS JUST IN!!! All fiction is derivitive in one way or another! Every content creator is a hack who owes their entire success to the Epic of Gilgamesh!
>>82763906
why not ask?
>>82763853
>but I don't see Capeshit influence anywhere
Literally half of anime has super powered characters who can leap over tall buildings and fight at the speed of sound with nigh-invulnerability. American comics and cartoons in the 20's onward basically went on to define Japan's anime and manga scene. Shit today is still referencing things we did from the 20's - 50's. We literally cannot get away from it. The only truly creative ones were the pioneers back in the days of discovering the medium.
>>82764011
Japanese superherps are descended from american ones, but the predominant genre, Sentai, is very different.
Compare power rangers to Superman and show the similarities
>>82764011
Japan's better at our capeshit than we are. One Punch Man and My Hero Academia are much better than anything we're doing right now.
>>82764690
ok you convinced me on watching hero academia.
>It's a "thread we've had before and it was equally shit back then" episode
>>82761541
Plus trying to turn the core of earth into something that will please the leaders...
yeah, but Invader zim was total shit.
>>82761208
This shitposting needs to end
>>82761701
Correlation. Not causation
>>82761208
>steven moaning
>It's not even in yet
>it's alright keep going
>I'm going to speed it up to triple penetration
I couldn't have been the only one to pick up on that.
