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>Hank is now stuck in Ultron and wears him like a suit >Jan
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>Hank is now stuck in Ultron and wears him like a suit
>Jan wasn't Hank's first wife, he had a wife before Jan and had a daughter with her and the daughter is now the new Wasp

RIP classic Hank
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>>82755845
Janet was never Hank's first wife. Maria Trovaya has always been a thing.
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>>82755845
But Jan was always second wife. Only retcon is Nadia.
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>>82755845
Except Jan not being his first wife has been a thing for a very long time now, as far back as the Silver Age. She looks like his first wife, incidentally.
And he fused with Ultron in Rage of Ultron. Great story, I'd recommend it.
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>>82755845
>Jan wasn't Hank's first wife, he had a wife before Jan
But that's always been true.
Why don't you try reading comics instead of getting mad about them?
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>>82755845

>Jan wasn't Hank's first wife, he had a wife before Jan


Nothing new casual
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>>82755845
did he also back hand his first wife and daughter or was jan special?
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>>82755887
>She looks like his first wife, incidentally.
On purpose or sameface?
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>>82755845
Hank always had a wife before Janet, she was introduced in the same issue Janet was. It's why he didn't just up and marry Jan right away. Read Tales to Astonish faggot.
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>>82755845
>Getting inside your own son and wearing him
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>>82755917
On purpose. As another anon pointed out, that's why he was cautious about marrying Jan immediately.
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>>82755917
Purposefully. It was one of Hank's initial problems with pursuing a relationship with Jan.

>she's much younger than me and is a dead ringer for my recently murdered wife

This is Hank's life.
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>>82755917
On purpose actually, it's part of why he didn't want Janet to get involved in crime fighting.
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>>82755960
>he doesn't know about that time Pym banged his granddaughter
>>82755970
>>82755987
Thanks for explaining. I'm sure I've read Pym's origin but hell if I can remember how Maria looked.
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>>82756005
Janet didn't die in action until Secret Invasion, right?
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>>82755845
Kill yourself. Youre not a fan of Hank Pym
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>>82756017
She's not part of his origin. You haven't read ot
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>>82755845
>my friend
>not my son

Jesus fucking christ Hank.
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>>82756017
>>82755845
>>82755960
>Wearing your own son

Isnt that the point of the Symbiotes ?

you could say spider-man is the real Dad, and when he is wearing venom he is actually wearing his adoptive son.
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>>82756208
>ANAD Ultron is made by Stark
>>82756213
Well, Rage of Ultron had them fused. Like, machine man and human heart. X months later, Ultron appears, head melts and we see Hank.
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>The silver I'm wearing is my friend Ultron
>is my friend Ultron
>Friend
>Ultron
Hank confirmed for worst dad
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>>82756043
Yeah, though Hank Pym's first wife didn't die either. She was still in the USSR as a giant mutated Tetsuo type monster.
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>>82756269
Nah, that was a lie to trick him. Unless they were lying about lying.
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>>82756213
Pete wearing venom is more like wearing a crazy stranger who became obsessed with you and tries to mimic your every action.
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>>82755887
Yea Rage of Ultron was fucking great, Pymtron is such a neat idea. shame they just made ultron into an iron man suit, the whole man/machine fusion was so neat. it also doesn't help the art in that book skullfucks this
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>>82755916
Jan has always been special anon.
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>>82757912
Lord knows she does things to me
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>>82755916
Jan was special.
And to be fair, she did deserve that backhand. When your longtime boyfriend is having a breakdown you get him help, not take advantage of him and get him to marry you.
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>>82755916
Jan wasn't special. Every Avenger took a turn knocking her around.
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>>82756233
>>ANAD Ultron is made by Stark
source?
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>>82755845
>I didnt read Rage of Ultron
The second half of that shit is retarded though
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Did we ever get to see how that Avengers crew from Rage of Ultron came together after Secret Wars? Are they going to act like that lineup never happened? It was specifically pointed out it was after SW so it should actually be canon, right?
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>>82758566
I disagree Jan always came off as special to me.
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>>82755845
>Jan wasn't Hank's first wife
That has been true since Hank's very first appearance.

Why is it that its casuals who are always the first to start screaming about "retcons"?
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>>82759088
It happened during the 8 month timeskip, so it hardly matters.
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>>82759852
Because they can't keep up with it already man they don't need more information.
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>>82755845
>he didn't even know about Maria
Is it possible to be a fucking bandwagon Pymfag?
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So why and how is Hank now wearing Ultron like a Silence of the Lambsesque skin suit? Weren't they fused wholly in Rage of Ultron (which I thought was overrated as fuck and couldn't understand the fanboy wank for)?
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>>82759924
>see movie
>watch cartoon
>think you know everything
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>>82759962
Yes. Them fusing is why they can do this.
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>>82760095
But then why didn't he ask why is Pym young?
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>>82760326
I don't think he's that retarded
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>>82755845
There was a recent preview pic of Hank/Ultron landing on Earth for the upcoming issue.
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>>82757905
The art in Rage of Ultron was fucking GOAT. A shame too since, while they seem to be maintaining the general design of Pymtron, I did notice that they changed his face so it's less of a man/machine fusion (complete with nose and facial features) and more like a regular Ultron head now.
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>>82760490
>not posting lettered
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>>82760669
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>>82760682
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So did the main Avengers books suddenly get good? Last I remember ANAD and Uncanny where mediocre at best and New was only enjoyed Saturday morning cartoon-tier "fun"
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>>82760827
First we have to see how bad are they fucked by Civil War II, then we can talk about quality.
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>>82760827
New is fantastic. Uncanny is good. ANAD continues to be mediocre.
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>>82760827
what >>82760937 said
CW2 is right around the corner and you know that marvel is gonna force some shitty stuff on the books thanks to it
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>>82759924
It's something that's been going on since Ant-Man was in production and people were triggered by Pym not being the focus.
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>>82755887
>Rage of Ultron. Great story, I'd recommend it.

Anything I should read before and after?
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>>82761379
Self-contained.
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>>82761281
Explain? I'm a Pymfag and I was buttblasted about that.

More for how boring it made Age of Ultron, but still.
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>>82761034
Oddly enough, All-new All-different Avengers actually isn't getting a Civil War II tie-in. Instead, they're finishing a plotline from Nova's book while Nova is busy doing his Civil War II tie-in.
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>>82761850
Basically
>It's announced that Lang's the focus of the Ant-Man film
>Genuine Pymfags get triggered because Pym's not only not a founding Avenger but gonna be some random old dude
>People who pretend to read comics act like Pymfags to feel part of the cool kids club

That's basically it.
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>>82758034
Malcolm jerked off with the force of the One-Above-All that night.
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>>82760943
>New is fantastic
Not with that art
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>>82761034
>>82760937
New Avengers should do fine, then, if there's one thing Ewing's good at, it's writing around other people's events.
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>>82762241
I'm more triggered by Stark making Ultron.
Oh, well. That's what I get for not being fan of Cap and Batman.
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>>82762241
>Pym's not only not a founding Avenger
He's not just a founding Avenger. It was literally his idea to form the Avengers and he named them.
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>>82762275
>hating on based Sandoval
Do you even Joe Mad?

And even that aside, there's been other artists on the book besides Sandoval, and the most recent issue was the last one he's doing. Starting with next issue, Paco Medina is the new regular artist.
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>>82762315
Jan named them and forming them was Rick Jones idea, wasn't it?
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>>82762002
And UA is focusing on Pymtron instead of CW as well. It's great that both are avoiding the event fatigue using Standoff beforehand.
New Avengers is doing a tie-in, but it's likely away from Bendis's control.
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>>82762390
Correct, but as has already been pointed out, most of the people who bitch about shit like this are actually just casuals trying to fit in.
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>>82755845
>RIP classic Hank

The character is fucking 50+ years old. If he can't change, let him die.
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>>82762406
The New Avengers tie-in is SHIELD vs. AIM vs. WHISPER.
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>>82762241
Well, I knew it was going to be odd when they announced Mike Douglas was going to be Pym and they didn't cast someone younger. That said I fucking loved Ant-Man, probably the best MCU movie next to Iron Man and Winter Soldier.
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>>82762303
That's not the first time Tony's made Ultron he also did it in Next Avengers.
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>>82762390
>>82762437
No. Read the first issue of Avengers. Though I might be wrong about the naming bit. I recall Jan and him have whispered convo before that.
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>>82755901
Damn son was Maria like 15 years older than Hank?
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>>82760697
Probably unintentional here but it would be neat if Hank came back to Earth just speaking in rhymes like Etrigan.
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>>82755845
>Jan wasn't Hank's first wife, he had a wife before Jan
>ITT a faggot tries to act like he knows wheat he's talking
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>>82763440
Rick Jones can't get a hold of the Fantastic Four, ends up contacting the people that would then form the Avengers. Jan was the one who recommended the name "The Avengers." The only thing Hank did was say "hey guys, maybe this shouldn't just be a one time thing. We make a pretty good team!" But the person that got the team together was Rick and the person that named the team was Jan.

Go read the first issue of Avengers.
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>>82763440
Indeed. Hank forms team, Janet names it.
>>82763681
As he descends into Ultron, he starts rhyming and people should start packing?
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I have to be the only person aside from Geoff Johns that wants Hank and Janet to be together again.

They just need eachother.
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>>82760669
>taking down extremists in a wildlife preserve
Subtle.
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>>82763796
Stark, what the fuck are you wearing?
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>>82755845
where's that panel from?
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>>82765433
Uncanny Avengers
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>all this bait
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>>82765143
Invincible Bling Man.
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>>82765008
You aren't.
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>>82759962
It was good cuz we see why Hank is a loser in the Marvel universe.
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>>82765988
>Hank and his tea party buddies
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>>82766029
I love how the In-Betweener is just like "sup?"
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>>82760542
No, it wasn't. The book lost all of its momentum when the fill-in artists started appearing straight outta nowhere.
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>>82761379
You honestly don't need to, just know who Hank Pym is I guess.
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>>82765988
God, Absorbing Man is such an underused villain. He's so fucking rad.
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>>82766662
Yeah I always thought Crusher Creel or the Wrecking Crew should have been in Thor 1. Imagine the bar scene ends in a bar fight with Thor just easily crushing the humans he was in a fight with. Then Loki comes down, enchants Dirk Garthwaite's crowbar and creates the Wrecker. Then the final scene is Thor versus the Wrecking Crew instead of the Destroyer.
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>>82755987

>This is Hank's life.
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>>82765008
You are not. I also want them to be a couple again. It's just feels off when Janet is with some other dude.
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>>82765694
I want an alternate reality version of Tony Stark to come out and help the Avengers while wearing that armour.
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>>82765143
That's the second version of his original suit.
Someone told him that his original grey suit was too scary looking so he made it gold to appear less monstrous.
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Is there a reading guide to Ant-man?
Only know Lang
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>>82760697
Hank looks smug as hell in that last one.
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>>82760697
Im still fresh to comics, when was Hank Pym friendly with mutant shit stains?
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>>82770188
There have been X-Men on the Avengers roster at least as far back as the 80's.
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>>82765988
I'm not up on my cosmic abstracts, who's the green root-beard being to the right of the In-Betweener
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when will we get a hank pym solo comic, /co/?

guardians of the galaxy got like six series from the movie.
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>>82771859
> who's the green root-beard being

that is Eon, he created Quasar's quantum bands
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>>82765143
Scraps.
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>>82768441

Bet the real-life problem was the same as the Hulk's -- grey printed out as an unreadable smear.
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